I happen to play games like Flight Control and Fruit Ninja on iPad, its fast on iPAD, but on HD7 it is some what delayed action, what could be the cause of such slow movement?
I have noticed this to, mainly in the menu of the game and when it first starts. I pulled out my 4th Gen iPod and my MT4G and it doesnt have that same hitch on those devices.
It's to do with the slow 16gb Class 2 SD Card that's been put in by HTC.
If you compare it to an Omnia 7 then you'll see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=5FztCFvST8s&annotation_id=annotation_979728
Note that boot times are the same but loading the actual game there's a noticeable difference.
I would assume the iPad uses NAND storage like the Omnia 7 and your MT4G has a higher class SD Card.
any solution ?
so there's nothing we can do, but to live with it ?
jtphl said:
so there's nothing we can do, but to live with it ?
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Change your SD card to a 16GB Class 6 card.
jtphl said:
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Officially no, hopefully future updates will work on increasing the speed (Although theoretically the omnia will always be faster).
Unofficially you can change the SD card but they don't all work.
are there any videos showing that changing to a higher class, specifically class 6 would lead to better game performance?
I got another question for WP7 that uses NAND memory, so in case the NAND memory is full, so it will use the inserted micro SD, will that also make game play as slow as our hd7?
I'm not really sure if it has anything to do with the Micro SD class type, since the game will be loaded into the RAM and processed from there.
Its faster on omnia 7, probably because it has a dedicated gpu that hd7 doesnt
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I'm not really sure if it has anything to do with the Micro SD class type, since the game will be loaded into the RAM and processed from there.
Its faster on omnia 7, probably because it has a dedicated gpu that hd7 doesnt
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What dedicated GPU is this? They all have the same processors, the QSD8250 and none of the specs say anything about an extra GPU chip.
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What dedicated GPU is this? They all have the same processors, the QSD8250 and none of the specs say anything about an extra GPU chip.
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I was reading an article in here about omnia 7, and it mentions that: "Gameplay is more than adequately handled by the Omnia 7′s internal GPU"
Doesn't this means that omnia 7 has a dedicated GPU?
Shu. said:
I was reading an article in here about omnia 7, and it mentions that: "Gameplay is more than adequately handled by the Omnia 7′s internal GPU"
Doesn't this means that omnia 7 has a dedicated GPU?
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They're talking about the Adreno 200 GPU found inside the Qualcom Snapdragon QSD8250 which is found in all the Windows Phones. You can check some more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)#Current_.26_Future_Specifications
It's strange that the actual gameplay of the Omnia 7 is faster than the HD7 as once the content is loaded it should have the same performance.
Shu. said:
I'm not really sure if it has anything to do with the Micro SD class type, since the game will be loaded into the RAM and processed from there.
Its faster on omnia 7, probably because it has a dedicated gpu that hd7 doesnt
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Games are being loaded FROM that SD Card though.
It's like comparing loading speeds of a DVD on the Xbox to ripping it to the Hard Drive and playing it off there.
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They're talking about the Adreno 200 GPU found inside the Qualcom Snapdragon QSD8250 which is found in all the Windows Phones. You can check some more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)#Current_.26_Future_Specifications
It's strange that the actual gameplay of the Omnia 7 is faster than the HD7 as once the content is loaded it should have the same performance.
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thanks for clarification, I didnt know that
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Games are being loaded FROM that SD Card though.
It's like comparing loading speeds of a DVD on the Xbox to ripping it to the Hard Drive and playing it off there.
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When you are playing the game, its already loaded into the RAM, so the SD-card shouldnt really affect the speed of the game-play
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When you are playing the game, its already loaded into the RAM, so the SD-card shouldnt really affect the speed of the game-play
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Exactly, it doesn't make sense that the Omnia is faster than the HD7 at playing games. Unless these games are loading content while the game is running? Maybe the different types of models for the different levels?
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Hello all.
I'm currently trying to find some new games for my Kaiser, and would love to play some emulators.
What I'm after are emulators that run at full speed (if possible) in landscape mode. Any ideas?
My M600i that is nearly 2 years old could play Megadrive at 100% speed WITH sound on a 250mhz processor: I hope the Kaiser can at least match that without the drivers
Thanks!
freewarepocketpc.net
Girvo said:
My M600i that is nearly 2 years old could play Megadrive at 100% speed WITH sound on a 250mhz processor
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Wiki said:
The original MC68000 was fabricated using an HMOS process with a 3.5-micron feature size. Initial engineering samples were released in late 1979. Production chips were available in 1980, with initial speed grades of 4, 6, and 8 MHz. 10 MHz chips became available during 1981, and 12.5 MHz chips during 1982. The 16.67 MHz "12F" version of the MC68000, the fastest version of the original HMOS chip, was not produced until the late 1980s.
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You emulated a 10Mhz processor on a 250Mhz Processor, whoop-de-do
And my phone with a 400mhz processor can't. At least, not with the ones I've tried. Like I said: any ideas?
Until we get proper drivers, emulation will suffer on Kaiser. So far, the only system I've been able to get full speed and sound emulation out of is Gameboy via MorphGear.
Pocketnester is what I use. It works fine for me, although there is no support for landscape mode.
ugoff said:
Until we get proper drivers, emulation will suffer on Kaiser. So far, the only system I've been able to get full speed and sound emulation out of is Gameboy via MorphGear.
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Thought that was the case. It's a shame. The GP2X can emulate more than us in 2D, with a slower processor. As did the M600i.
*sigh*
Oh well. I'm going to bite the bullet and get me a P1i I think. Luckily Mum needs a new phone (took her Atom for a swim).
Morphgear is probably the best one out there.
Anybody got a ink to Morphgear?
Dnasty777 said:
Pocketnester is what I use. It works fine for me, although there is no support for landscape mode.
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PocketNester does support landscape mode.
Just go to Options -> Graphics and turn off GAPI.
Hi,
i don't know if everybody knows, you can play PSX 1 games on the PockePC devices...
Diamond has a fast Processor VGA Screen so thats good conditions too play games... the bad ones are the missing buttons... but with FPSEce there is also a onscreen Controller so that should not be the problem...
Heres the offical Homepage:
http://www.fpsece.net/
i prefer to use the .96 Beta from Forum!!
heres a vid of running ff7 on a pocketpc:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OTulLVj3Ww
i'm totally impressed with the psx bt controller... i didn't saw/or know that such things exist... so you dont need hardware buttons
i have testet FF7 today too but i don't get it too run...
the Bios starts well.. FPS over 100... but after that noting happens...
i have tryed different img what i could found for download... my original ff7 cd is lost somewhere... so i can't try to rip it off by my self... maybe someone can try this... (Should be done with alcohol as i read somewhere because all other destroys the images to work with the emu...)
any news for this emulator?
COOL! could you add G-sensor support to this? say to press the center button and then use the g-sensor to detect motion and control the direction?
PS2 games me ay also possibly be playable on the diamond,
Remember the Diamond has a 528 MHz processor, while the PS2 has only 294MHz processor
specs at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2
sorry.. if u are saying the diamond is faster than a ps2.. its not.. the processor speed is simply not the same
for e.g.
1ghz on pentium and 1ghz on pentium 4 with HT.. which is faster? de latter rite...
plus ps2 has a well powered GPU.. diamond has a dedicated video chip but its not v powerful.. merely for touchflo 3D...
try installing pocket pc games like tony hawkk pro skater 2 which was also released on the ps1 and u know wad im toking about.. even with hardware acceleration the game isnt as smooth as playing on the ps1 itself..
actually
actually yes and no to a few people above me
the ps2 actually has 2 cpus a 299mhz cpu and a 150mhz co-processor
these would be the hardest to emulate the 299mhz cpu is actually the easy one the 150mhz cpu is a vector (floating point) cpu which arm cpus (like the diamonds) do very slowly however the graphics card is a 16 pipe 147mhz 4mb graphics card which belive it or not we have more power than (the diamond has a 333mhz 12 pipe gfx card with 16mb of faster ram) but the problem is that there is no driver for the card on the diamond for developers like me to use.
so the short story is yes it is doable even at 30fps if they could use the gfx card to emulate the co-processor but it would take a lot of development time and skills to do and some help from HTC to do it in a relistic time...
In my experience, you need a CPU with at least 10 times the clock speed of the chip you're trying to emulate, unfortunately. That's before you take dedicated graphics processors etc. into account. It will be a good while before we see PS2 games being run on phones.
i managed to get destruction derby working on my trinity at ~24 fps which slowed down to 13 fps when you touched the screen. i am sure the diamond could do better
idrisito said:
i managed to get destruction derby working on my trinity at ~24 fps which slowed down to 13 fps when you touched the screen.
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yup, the infamous touchscreen cpuusage bug HTC hasn't been bothered fixing for 2.5 years...
I've tried the emulator with... Tekken 3 . Just 12-13 fps in portrait mode, so it works but not playable. If you try it in landscape mode, it doesn't work. And the onscreen pad is too small on Diamond screen.
It'd be nice if everyone posted
Games: | Options enabled/disabled | FPS
No need for compatibility, since it's available on the website.
danthekilla said:
actually yes and no to a few people above me
the ps2 actually has 2 cpus a 299mhz cpu and a 150mhz co-processor
these would be the hardest to emulate the 299mhz cpu is actually the easy one the 150mhz cpu is a vector (floating point) cpu which arm cpus (like the diamonds) do very slowly however the graphics card is a 16 pipe 147mhz 4mb graphics card which belive it or not we have more power than (the diamond has a 333mhz 12 pipe gfx card with 16mb of faster ram) but the problem is that there is no driver for the card on the diamond for developers like me to use.
so the short story is yes it is doable even at 30fps if they could use the gfx card to emulate the co-processor but it would take a lot of development time and skills to do and some help from HTC to do it in a relistic time...
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So, Diamond still doesent have video drivers? It must have some. And only 16 MB RAM ? Co-procesor has 64 MB RAM, does he?
I've tried the emulator with FF7 but 27 fps in portrait mode
isnt 27fps a very good and playable speed? or is the problem because thats in portrait mode?
27 fps is very slow and not playable
27 is good speed, I played llots of games on my PC on 22 FPS.
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27 is good speed, I played llots of games on my PC on 22 FPS.
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Hahahaha lol. Thats funny.
so i would say 27fps is not awesome but it's defenitly more than enough for FF7.
a average cam used for TV captures about 25f/s
It has to be at least 21fps if you want to cheat the eye.
always posted in this forum...read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409990 i've made various test with FFIX
I could not get the fpsece run on my diamond. Although I have copied bios file in bios folder (I've already have a PS 1 so everything is legal) and try some game. But after trying to open .iso's diamond stucks for 15 seconds and nothing happens.... Any ideas?
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isnt 27fps a very good and playable speed? or is the problem because thats in portrait mode?
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Yes it is! Especially when you consider that its max Fps on the actual PS1 was 30Fps
IM helping my friend build a computer... I built one in a few years and I planning on getting this build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.328587
But its saying I need a discrete graphics card... Can some explain exactly what that is? Does that just mean it needs to be small?
Can some help me choose a good one for around $150? From new egg or zipzoomfly or another trusted known website with a good return policy.
Im looking for something that with play blu-rays and some gaming like gta 4.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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IM helping my friend build a computer... I built one in a few years and I planning on getting this build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.328587
But its saying I need a discrete graphics card... Can some explain exactly what that is? Does that just mean it needs to be small?
Can some help me choose a good one for around $150? From new egg or zipzoomfly or another trusted known website with a good return policy.
Im looking for something that with play blu-rays and some gaming like gta 4.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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You are right it means something low profile without huge fans, thats where you will have the issue when it comes to the line between good quality in games and a card that will fit!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._profile_graphics_card-_-14-129-144-_-Product
thats the profile i would assume it means instad of the cards that take up to slots on size.. and have leaf blowers...
edit: also that card will decode the video on the gpu instead of straining the cpu...games should run ok at medium resolutions.. posted the wrong card at first..
Gaming -- get a Geforce GTS 250 -- pretty small and has lots of variations -- like this low profile : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187098&cm_re=gts_250-_-14-187-098-_-Product
Little gaming -- Geforce GT 240 - has some passive cooling options (passive = no fans) -- like this :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500138&cm_re=gt_240-_-14-500-138-_-Product
But to be real -- If you get a low profile Graphic card without a fan -- then you cant do much gaming on it, cause it overheats more, therefore you cant put a big load on it and overclock it!!
So my suggestion would be - get a decent GTS 250, with a nice cooler, and then just make the fan spin slower!! :d - set the fan speed to about 60 - 70% and you wont be able to hear the fan! -- just go in newegg and search for "GTS 250" - check those which have 1gb of memory and a nice cooler (not those with plastic around - only metal)
Kristaps
got an ati 5770 and it's pretty good support dx11 but doubt my other system could keep up with the more fancy dx11 stuff but it was not that expensive
Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks
mmafighter077 said:
Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks
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Thats not low profile so i would say no, why dont you buy the parts apart from the graphics and see how much room you have or...
use this search string on new egg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=False&Order=PRICED
dont buy a quadro from nvidia though...if you are putting blueray in try getting one with hdmi, it will also pass digital audio through so no need to hook up a lead from spdif to an external sound system, but if you do get an ati card it will also come with and adapter to pass audi over dvi-i.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._profile_graphics_card-_-14-129-145-_-Product is a good one for games also at the price range you stipulated.
By discreet i'm thinking what they really mean is depth "not width as low profile are, the case is more than large enough on width" as it's going to take up a PCI slot if larger than x amount, so what you need to take into consideration is how many PCI cards are you going to need if 1 then the whole gamble on does this card fit is out of the window and the world of GPU is in your grasp.
The one you linked mmafighter077 is amazing specification on Core Clock RAM DDR3 so bandwidth larger i would advise you speak to Newegg to ask about comparability even though i'm sure what i said above is the reason.
But i could be wrong
actually they dont really need to mention about discreet, read the case review http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146060 bottom left, some who has it says it can fit a geforce 280...
mmafighter077 said:
Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks
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yup !! that will do!! not as powerful as 8800GTS, but it will do the trick for you!! -- GTA4 , blu ray, you name it - the card will do it
I wouldnt buy a nvidia one since i rwad that they are less spec as the ati ones for more money.
an ati equivilent of a nvidia costs less and performs better.
flyboy
flyboyovyick2k9 said:
I wouldnt buy a nvidia one since i rwad that they are less spec as the ati ones for more money.
an ati equivilent of a nvidia costs less and performs better.
flyboy
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true!! -- But I cant help with ATI -- I dont know their model range only thing I know is - ATI 4870 or 4780 (dont remember the corect name but in the series with the first ati X2 card) is more powerfull than Nvidia GTX 260 but costs more than 50% less than GTX 260
Hi there,
Quick question for all you fellow HD7 owners.
Have you noticed that the phone can be painfully slow loading apps / games?
General phone use is quick, but when I fire up a game or facebook / twitter I often have to wait upwards of 20 seconds before I can actually get going. Certain games, like The Harvest, seem to take forever.
I can only conclude that HTC have used the slowest SD Cards that money could buy in an effort to shave their margins.
Not that impressed.
warpkid said:
Hi there,
Quick question for all you fellow HD7 owners.
Have you noticed that the phone can be painfully slow loading apps / games?
General phone use is quick, but when I fire up a game or facebook / twitter I often have to wait upwards of 20 seconds before I can actually get going. Certain games, like The Harvest, seem to take forever.
I can only conclude that HTC have used the slowest SD Cards that money could buy in an effort to shave their margins.
Not that impressed.
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WMPower Users have a story about that, where someone compared a HTC Trophy to the Samsung Omnia 7 (the Samsung has a SSD, not MicroSD), and the HTC loaded games 2x slower.
I'm really scared about this, I was going to buy a HD7 but knowing this, it sounds pretty bad :/
Coming from a 3gs I'm a little dissapointed by the loading speeds. I guess that's the difference between nand and SD storage.
Oh well!
This is a bit concerning but I had a Desire with Apps2SD on, with a 16GB Class 2 Micro SD Card and apps loaded up fine. I'm guessing after a few updates the speed will be faster.
I havent had that feeling, both Twitter and facebook are loading in less then 10 seconds! But sometimes I have to reboot, because it just bounce back when you try to open a hub!
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This is a bit concerning but I had a Desire with Apps2SD on, with a 16GB Class 2 Micro SD Card and apps loaded up fine. I'm guessing after a few updates the speed will be faster.
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The XNA programming platform has been known for slow load times, add in a SD Card and apparently it gets slower.
TonWes: Try opening a game, not an app. Twitter and Facebook are written using Silverlight most likely, not XNA.
Ok so its not an apples to apples test but bejeweled live takes 45 seconds to load to the main menu in my hd7. On a 3gs bejeweled 2 takes about 5 seconds to load. say what you will about optimisation but it would appear that HTC used some poor grade memory in this phone!
And 45 seconds to load a simple game like bejeweled! Wow!
The Trophy in that video doesn't have a removable sd card, either.. there's a large sandisk chip soldered to the motherboard.
Obviously the controller or the memory is inferior to what samsung is using in the Omnia 7.. which is a real shame.
This is making me re-think my decision to buy a HD7..
are the load times the same (bad) on the 8GB en the 16 GB ?
Hello,
Someon with HD7 can try to load the game "retro spaces" and say us the load time.
Theres is a video in youtube that compare trophy with omnia and the diferences are big
Then it will be very interesting if anyone can try the HD7 with original sdcard and with other beter card
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Ok so its not an apples to apples test but bejeweled live takes 45 seconds to load to the main menu in my hd7. On a 3gs bejeweled 2 takes about 5 seconds to load. say what you will about optimisation but it would appear that HTC used some poor grade memory in this phone!
And 45 seconds to load a simple game like bejeweled! Wow!
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Yea i can confirm this too.
It's ridiculous on how long it takes to load up Bejeweled. I use to own a iPhone (all versions) and the iPhone can load it up in 5-10secs (10secs for older versions of the iphones). 45 secs just to load a game like Bejeweled is insane.
I would of thought as a "entertainment phone", they could at least beef up the memory. Since the screen was a monster already, i was expecting the specs to match up to it's screen... sadly i was wrong...
DAVIZINHO said:
Hello,
Someon with HD7 can try to load the game "retro spaces" and say us the load time.
Theres is a video in youtube that compare trophy with omnia and the diferences are big
Then it will be very interesting if anyone can try the HD7 with original sdcard and with other beter card
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That game is not out yet - the video is from the developer of the game
ElysiumY2K said:
Yea i can confirm this too.
It's ridiculous on how long it takes to load up Bejeweled. I use to own a iPhone (all versions) and the iPhone can load it up in 5-10secs (10secs for older versions of the iphones). 45 secs just to load a game like Bejeweled is insane.
I would of thought as a "entertainment phone", they could at least beef up the memory. Since the screen was a monster already, i was expecting the specs to match up to it's screen... sadly i was wrong...
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Whilst there is no doubt that the iPhone will load games quicker, as will other NAND based phones (omnia 7) Im hoping that the deficit between the two will shrink over time as the tools / sdk improves.
There is no way bejeweled should take 45 seconds to load. There just isnt that much to the game. Im hoping that a few patches down the line it will be a bit better at least.
Still, I would like to see the game loading on an omnia 7, which I imagine would do it at least twice as quick.
And, I suppose I have to take heart in the face that once loads performance will be the same. Just a shame it takes so bloody long.
Takes 32 seconds on my HD7. Still not good enough, but defo Popcaps fault.
Just checked on my Omnia 7, takes 15 seconds.
Yeh took about 28 seconds on my HD7
Surely this is App related aswell.
Tetris for instance loads almost instantly.
I'm not doubting that the Omnia is probably faster, but I'm sure these slow loading times are due to the apps themselves.
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Omnia FTW!
Hopefully someone can test a HD7 with a better SD card in it, that would be interesting.
ace10134 said:
Omnia FTW!
Hopefully someone can test a HD7 with a better SD card in it, that would be interesting.
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HD7 doesnt have a SD slot!!???
rafter_01 said:
HD7 doesnt have a SD slot!!???
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of course it does!
I know there are better forums to ask this on but I love XDA and figured you guys might know a thing or two about computers..
I bought my HP Pavilion dv6 2190 2 years ago and it has been great to me.. only complaint is that the 6 cell battery give me enough time to un plug and find a new outlet..
Anyways after 2 years, it needed some work.. It has a 1.8Ghz i7, Nvidia GT230m 1GB GPU, and I doubled my RAM from 4GB to 8GB and then took the 500Gb HDD out and installed a clean install of windows 7 professional on a 128GB SSD and then put the 500GB HDD in a caddy and installed it in my DVD bay as media storage, plus I never used my DVD drive..
Now I split the 128GB SSD in two partitions for a Ubuntu and W7 dual boot and Ubuntu flies, no issues with videos, unlimited browsers, all kinds of applications open at once, But W7 just plain sucks.. Browsers when watching a Video, the video will become choppy and the entiresystem will come to a hault.. Also even before the SSD and RAM, Editing in Premiere Pro wasnt this choppy. Sometimes it flies like it should, then other times it gets so bogged down with just one Browser open, or when editing Video with no other programs running and less then 60 total processes running Video playback at 1/4 quality is so hoppy its un useable.
I understand that my computer is 2 years old but with this much new equipment and a clean install I would think it would be happy as a champ in both Ubuntu and W7.
I keep my computer clean and dont have tons of programs bogging it down.. I just want to know what you guys think and what info do you need to help me?
I tried to see if I have and back ground programs or processes that are holdong things back but I cant see anything..
Any ideas?
Last.. Mods feel free to move topic..
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What speed is the 500gb HD? And 1.7 GHz is not that much for video editing. Also make sure you don't have any unnecessary processes running. Go to task manager, second tab, and click the tab that I forgot what it says and I can't check now cuz I'm on a mac. It's the last one.
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What speed is the 500gb HD? And 1.7 GHz is not that much for video editing. Also make sure you don't have any unnecessary processes running. Go to task manager, second tab, and click the tab that I forgot what it says and I can't check now cuz I'm on a mac. It's the last one.
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The HDD is a 7200rpm and is data only. The os and few programs I have are on the SSD. And 1.8 ghz is not blistering fast but has worked just fine before. Plus premiere pro uses the gpu for playback.. And this happens with chrome too. It's not just editing. And I am down to 50-55 processes and they are all system except for the editing program.
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Spend 500 bucks and get a laptop 4 times faster, it's the most logical solution.
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Scan with an antivirus. There might be something there. Also if you have the time, format again, might help.
Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.
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Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.
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+1 turn off Aero.
DirkGently said:
Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.
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I will turn Aero off and see if that helps.. I remember AVG Tune up had me turn off Aero before I did all these upgrades, I will try that. and I know its a week GPU but it ran the murcery playback engine in Premiere Pro for over a year just fine with 1080 h.264 video with color correcting and multiple layers just fine at 1/2 quality realtime playback and now I can't watch 1/4 quality with out the computer coming to a stand still.. could my GPU have gone bad?
jaszek said:
Scan with an antivirus. There might be something there. Also if you have the time, format again, might help.
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multiple AVG full computer scans never come up with anything more then just empty browser cache and cookies and that small stuff.. I may format both the 500GB HDD and the 128SSD.. I know the HDD could use Defraging and probably should be just wipped.. But still the OS's and Programs are on the SSD.. And Ubuntu runs like a champ so I find it hard to think its so much hardware issue.
itsbeertimenow said:
Spend 500 bucks and get a laptop 4 times faster, it's the most logical solution.
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Its obvious your deep into your beer time.. I just put $200 into this computer to bring it up to speed, I am not buying a new computer.. I only use The hp for video and photo work, 95% of my time is on my Transformer booted into Ubuntu.
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swan3609 said:
Its obvious your deep into your beer time.. I just put $200 into this computer to bring it up to speed, I am not buying a new computer.. I only use The hp for video and photo work, 95% of my time is on my Transformer booted into Ubuntu.
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Why would you spend $200 on something that's not going to be worth half that when you're done.
Shoot your computer it's lame.
itsbeertimenow said:
Why would you spend $200 on something that's not going to be worth half that when you're done.
Shoot your computer it's lame.
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How does that make any sense?
Anyhow, to the OP, couple of things:
1. If your copy of Windows isn't legit, get it legit. I remember I used to have problems on my laptop because I hadn't activated my Windows yet. Once I did, everything was gone.
2. What's your WEI for the graphic card? Maybe do a stress test and see how well it performs.
Well worth checking out whether the GPU has indeed gone bad. Run some tests and monitor temps too as it may be throttling. Don't forget that the age of that Laptop puts in within the period of time of the Nvidia 'Bumpgate' troubles, where their mobile GPU's were dying left and right because of a manufacturing defect.
http://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-defective/
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How does that make any sense?
Anyhow, to the OP, couple of things:
1. If your copy of Windows isn't legit, get it legit. I remember I used to have problems on my laptop because I hadn't activated my Windows yet. Once I did, everything was gone.
2. What's your WEI for the graphic card? Maybe do a stress test and see how well it performs.
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Windows is legitimate. I am a student and got w7 professional as a download with a valid product key.
I am not sure about my WEI. I will check it when I get back home. I believe that it was very high 5+ if I remember rightly. I will try testing the card this afternoon and see what is up.
I would be a sad dude if my gpu was bad. I am well out of my warranty
DirkGently said:
Well worth checking out whether the GPU has indeed gone bad. Run some tests and monitor temps too as it may be throttling. Don't forget that the age of that Laptop puts in within the period of time of the Nvidia 'Bumpgate' troubles, where their mobile GPU's were dying left and right because of a manufacturing defect.
http://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-defective/
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That sucks. I will check it out. What is the best stress testing application? I have a bad feeling about mine..
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Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html
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Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html
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thank you. My ram is fine. I just swapped for 8gb less than a month ago and it is just fine. I will run some tests on my gpu this afternoon. Thanks again.
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DirkGently said:
Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html
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So I ran that applet and it ran just fine gpu around 75-80C and gpu load around 15-20% but premiere and online videos are killer. Not smooth at all.
So as soon as I load up premiere, the gpu maxes out the clock speeds which I assume is OK because it's getting used? It never shows the gpu load to go up though.
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If it's not crashy under load i think we can rule out a GPU failure. What's the CPU utilization while you're running Premier and Videos? Take a look in Task manager to see what it's doing.
It could just be something simple like a dodgy plug-in, or a driver that needs to be re-installed. If you haven't already to could try re-installing/updating the usual candidates. Graphics drivers/Flash/Siverlight/Browser/Sound.
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If it's not crashy under load i think we can rule out a GPU failure. What's the CPU utilization while you're running Premier and Videos? Take a look in Task manager to see what it's doing.
It could just be something simple like a dodgy plug-in, or a driver that needs to be re-installed. If you haven't already to could try re-installing/updating the usual candidates. Graphics drivers/Flash/Siverlight/Browser/Sound.
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Graphics driver is the most current Nvidia Driver, Flash is current, It happens on all browsers so I want to rule out Chrome, and what about sound could it be? I just figured that the sound uses the built in sounds card on my motherboard.. I assumed my windows updates took care of that..
Device Manager will tell you if there's any problems. Press Win Key+Pause/Break, Device Manager and look for any exclamation marks in yellow triangles.
I'd still be interested to see what the CPU is doing when the issues crop up.
Also, test your drive with HDTune:
http://www.hdtune.com/
It will help diagnose any drive errors.
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Device Manager will tell you if there's any problems. Press Win Key+Pause/Break, Device Manager and look for any exclamation marks in yellow triangles.
I'd still be interested to see what the CPU is doing when the issues crop up.
Also, test your drive with HDTune:
http://www.hdtune.com/
It will help diagnose any drive errors.
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I will check but I am starting to rule out hardware, only because my ubuntu boot is very very fast. I have never had chrome or firefox slow down on me. So I am thinking about doing a clean wipe of my ssd and my hdd and see if that fixes it.
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swan3609 said:
I will check but I am starting to rule out hardware, only because my ubuntu boot is very very fast. I have never had chrome or firefox slow down on me. So I am thinking about doing a clean wipe of my ssd and my hdd and see if that fixes it.
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Everyone works their way around to a clean install eventually!
I used to tell people to start with doing that, as it ends up being the faster option after all the messing about, but then people always want to try every other possible option first. I've learned that it's best to let them come to that conclusion all on their own!
Good luck. Let us know if everything is ok afterwards.