1. How do I get rid of clockwork mod recovery and go back to bone stock on my N1?
2. Also, I have root explorer but I have no Idea what I'm looking at. Has clockwork put any backups on the internal storage? If so how many and how much room is this taking up?
I was wondering the same thing and then I came upon this thread "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770792&page=2" basically if you have the Rom Manager app installed all you have to do is download a Stock Nexus One Rom Like FRF91 and restore with that. According to the original poster Melwan :-
"For future reference, if you want to restore your phone while having no issues accessing it, just get Rom Manager. Use it to download and install a stock unrooted Froyo rom (just make sure to select wipe data and do not select the rooting options).
Very easy to restore. The passimg method comes in very handy if you cannot even boot into the OS."
I followed the instructions above and went back from Cyanogen RC3 to Stock Nexus FRF91 in just a few minutes.
With all of the really good roms now a days...that is..
1) Rooting...doing a back up of the stock rom..and then using that backup to return to stock without having to flash through Odin?
I'm guessing here...but..wouldn't you have to have disable any lag fix..going back to rfs..disable any voodoo..changing any oc/uc settings to stock..prior to doing this ?
2) Pulling a copy of the entire EFS folder from stock to your PC before doing any flashing new roms and then prior to un-rooting dropping it back in with root explorer...Won't this do the same thing without having to use a terminal or hex editor to have the original imei # and product code #? If #1 is a complete copy..would #2 be even needed ?
Just looking for a easy way to do this on a brand new phone
Thanks
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Mac11700 said:
With all of the really good roms now a days...that is..
1) Rooting...doing a back up of the stock rom..and then using that backup to return to stock without having to flash through Odin?
I'm guessing here...but..wouldn't you have to have disable any lag fix..going back to rfs..disable any voodoo..changing any oc/uc settings to stock..prior to doing this ?
2) Pulling a copy of the entire EFS folder from stock to your PC before doing any flashing new roms and then prior to un-rooting dropping it back in with root explorer...Won't this do the same thing without having to use a terminal or hex editor to have the original imei # and product code #? If #1 is a complete copy..would #2 be even needed ?
Just looking for a easy way to do this on a brand new phone
Thanks
Mac
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1) You should basically be doing this everytime you flash a new rom. I've flashed my cappy probly 50 times and everytime except once I went back to stock first. 0 issues -- the 1 time I didn't have a pc at hand and had to disable the lagfix then flash rom. But. going back to stock with Odin3 1 click is easy as long as you can get into download mode. Make sure you can get into dload mode before even attempting to flash a rom.
You only have to disable lagfix if you are not going back to stock prior to flashing a new rom (don't ever flash a rom over another rom without first disabling the lagfix or going back to stock).
2) I never backup my sdcard when flashing rom or master clear (I'm lazy I guess and don't want to wait for the files to transfer). I also keep update.zip as the clockwork recovery update.zip file. So after going back to stock, all I have to do is go into stock recovery and reinstall packages to install clockwork recovery, then I can flash the new rom and any add ons.
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1) You should basically be doing this everytime you flash a new rom. I've flashed my cappy probly 50 times and everytime except once I went back to stock first. 0 issues -- the 1 time I didn't have a pc at hand and had to disable the lagfix then flash rom. But. going back to stock with Odin3 1 click is easy as long as you can get into download mode. Make sure you can get into dload mode before even attempting to flash a rom.
You only have to disable lagfix if you are not going back to stock prior to flashing a new rom (don't ever flash a rom over another rom without first disabling the lagfix or going back to stock).
2) I never backup my sdcard when flashing rom or master clear (I'm lazy I guess and don't want to wait for the files to transfer). I also keep update.zip as the clockwork recovery update.zip file. So after going back to stock, all I have to do is go into stock recovery and reinstall packages to install clockwork recovery, then I can flash the new rom and any add ons.
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I guess I am wording this wrong...I know how to flash..and I know how to odin back...but I was curious if I could eliminate doing some of that by just using the back up of the stock rom that is rooted..I don't think that can be done with out flashing stock via Odin first (because of the kernels if not using a Captivate kernel )...but if you are using one... I haven't read anything about...cause I really don't know..
I am trying to see if all the EFS files are replaced with the correct #s without having to do and terminal work or use a hex editor..once the back up from Rom manager is put back on and used..Just trying to make a real easy check list about it..
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(don't ever flash a rom over another rom without first disabling the lagfix or going back to stock).
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I guess I got lucky cuz one day I was too lazy and away from the PC, but I have a couple of ROMs on my SD so I just flashed Assonance on top of Perception and worked fine.. that is the only time I did that, I always go back to stock with one click ODIN before flashing a new rom
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I guess I got lucky cuz one day I was too lazy and away from the PC, but I have a couple of ROMs on my SD so I just flashed Assonance on top of Perception and worked fine.. that is the only time I did that, I always go back to stock with one click ODIN before flashing a new rom
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the lagfixes may not have been installed...i think you have to manually install them with the roms you mentioned
I've searched and read FAQs a lot already. I read the threads that XDA suggested before posting this.
I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm a little fuzzy. Want to root my gf's AT&T Captivate (JH7) and install Froyo for her but still a little unclear on exactly how everything fits together.
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
Somebody catch me up... with my mt3g and mt4g I'm totally comfortable but this stuff is confusing me. I'm fairly comfortable with adb and already used it to sideload an app for her without rooting.
Thanks for your help guys.
I'm pretty new at this too so I'll try to answer what I can.
Before you try anything, just make sure you can get into recovery and download mode.
Recovery:
- Hold Vol Up + Vol Down + Power button.
- from adb type reboot recovery
- from Rom Manager, select the Reboot to Recovery option.
Download
- Hold Vol Up + Vol Down and insert the usb cable. This works for me. Getting Odin to detect it can be a bit tricky. I usually start Odin first, then connect phone.
- from adb type reboot download (I think)
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
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Not sure to be honest. The way I do it is that I install Rom Manager from the market first. It will ask you for root though. I like this way better as you can download and install the appropriate update.zip from the app. Rooting is very very easy. You can use this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
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To be safe, I only try ROMs that I find in the Captivate Development sub forum. Most of them can be installed with CWM. Place the *.zip in the root of your internal SD card, reboot into CWM and select the install .zip from card option. Don't freak out.
There is also a way to flash roms from Odin but I've never tried it to be honest.
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
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I believe it will restore to Samsung's stock version (I897UCJF6). Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Remember that this is only for the Captivate. It is safer to do a full restore whenever you are trying a new rom. The only exception, I think, is when you are upgrading versions (say, Darky's 7.8 to 8.0)
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
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I always install it using ROM manager and it works fine.
Now, from what I've been reading and doing this week, I learned that apart from the ROM, you can also flash the kernel and model separately, in case you have specific needs. For instance, I flashed glitterball's kernel to overclock the phone. Just remember that 2.1 Roms need 2.1 kernels and modems, the same applies for 2.2. Here is a list of modems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835272
I'm currently trying out the TLJL3.
Remember that there are many ways to get to Rome. Also, use Titanium Backup to save your apps.
tl;dr:
1. Root.
2. Install CWM.
3. Verify that you can access recovery and download mode.
4. Download ROM (CWM .zip installable).
5. Read read read.
Much more detailed guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
LOADING CUSTOM ROMs
Phateless said:
I've searched and read FAQs a lot already. I read the threads that XDA suggested before posting this.
I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm a little fuzzy. Want to root my gf's AT&T Captivate (JH7) and install Froyo for her but still a little unclear on exactly how everything fits together.
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
Somebody catch me up... with my mt3g and mt4g I'm totally comfortable but this stuff is confusing me. I'm fairly comfortable with adb and already used it to sideload an app for her without rooting.
Thanks for your help guys.
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Hmm... Most of your answers can be found in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
The ROM file would contain a kernel and a modem that will update her current kernel and modem. She can flash the kernel and modem of her choice after installing a custom ROM without breaking anything.
For Backing up use Titanium Backup, u need to ROOT your phone using directions in the earlier link provided.
When using custom ROMs it is always better to do a full wipe and flash to stock and master clear, i.e JF6 (using Odin one-click, or Odin with 3-button) or JH7 using the DG version.
You can follow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
Update.zip file once installed would load CWM from which you can install custom ROMs. Once you install custom ROMs, they are always rooted, and you needn't root again. It's a one time thing.
Hope this resolves everything..
Thanks for your replies, guys, I'm actually very familiar with rooting and flashing. To clarify, I already know HOW to install a custom ROM, that's not the issue. I'm more concerned about compatibility once I start installing custom stuff, and about UNROOTING if I need to. It sounds like if all I'm doing is installing a custom recovery and then a custom ROM, I don't really need to worry about it.
I always opt for manual method through recovery as opposed to Rom Manager.
I would use SuperOneClick for the stock ROM as I've used it before without issues. Most likely I would use the update.zip method to install clockwork recovery so I can make a nandroid backup of her completely unrooted stock setup before proceeding.
I can get into stock recovery just fine but haven't tried download mode yet.
And yes I would ONLY flash ROMs for the Captivate specifically, unless someone manages to complete a port for Sense.
Sounds like your good to go then.
... and Odin is just the cheap and easy method to return the phone back to stock.
So if you ever need to give it back and need it restored this is the easiest method to do it. But I would suggest formatting the internal SD Card to make sure there are no remnants of you playing around with the phone.
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Sounds like your good to go then.
... and Odin is just the cheap and easy method to return the phone back to stock.
So if you ever need to give it back and need it restored this is the easiest method to do it. But I would suggest formatting the internal SD Card to make sure there are no remnants of you playing around with the phone.
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Agreed, will definitely do that.
I also heard that when using ODIN to restore to JF6 the OTA update to JH7 won't come back on its own?
lol yea.. but it doesn't matter unless you were wanting to keep it on "stock".
If your flashing or returning the phone your ok with keeping it on JF6.
If your phone came with JH7 and you have issues with Odin one-click, you might want to look at this guide, it has worked great for me and many others:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
How do I know what build number her phone is? I see references to build number 1010, but I don't know if this phone CAME WITH jh7 or if that was an update. I bought it used. If I try to restore to JF6 will that brick it??
EDIT - found it. She's a 1007. So if I used ODIN-3 to restore to JF6, how do I get back to JH7? Reading elsewhere it seems that a nandroid restore won't include the baseband?
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So if I used ODIN-3 to restore to JF6, how do I get back to JH7? Reading elsewhere it seems that a nandroid restore won't include the baseband?
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Download the Mini Kies from here Download Center for SEG-I897ZKAATT.
Make sure the phone asks for USB on connection and select Kies mode when you plug into pc. Then open Mini Kies, it should recognize your phone and tell you an update is available. Follow the instructions from there.
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Download the Mini Kies from here Download Center for SEG-I897ZKAATT.
Make sure the phone asks for USB on connection and select Kies mode when you plug into pc. Then open Mini Kies, it should recognize your phone and tell you an update is available. Follow the instructions from there.
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Ok cool, thanks for your help! Already downloaded Kies from the Samsung website.
About to flash her phone but saw something somewhere about backing up some *.nv file to preserve her IMEI# and stuff? Can you link me to a guide on that? Can not for the life of me remember where I saw that.
Hi guys
While I did a lot of flashing my older Mobile HTC Phone
I'm very new to Android and Samsung. I just bought a Captivate that
had been pre-customized to a Cognition 1.6.1.
I see the recomendation to reflash the I897 to Stock condition prior to upgrading (to Cog 3.04).
My question is since I don't have any of the original backups etc. Does ODIN or one of the other utilities available or included with SuperOneClick or A10
contain the original stock code? Will I be able to go back to Stock?
Present Firmware 2.1-update1
BaseBand I897UCJH7
Kernel 2.6.29 [email protected] #VooDoo lagfix_3.0_v1.10
Build num Cognition v2.16 Atinm's v1.10
The phone is apparently rooted as I can copy and install Apks
as a remote USB Storage device. It also runs fine and has been a
pleasure to use. I just would like to update to a more current version of
Cognition. My wife bought the same phone (used) and it had the shutdown problem but was replaced by SamSung so I do have access to SamSung modified 2.1 Eclair.UCJH7 Phone if that is any use here
I would like to modify her phone as well but only after backing it up
So we could restore it if we need to return it.
I'm trying to get up to speed here but as you all know its a bitof a
learning curve, Appreciate any info on the topic (Retoring to Stock)
anyone would care to share
Thanks in Advance
Kenn
ODIN restores everything back to stock, i.e. kernel, samsung apps, at&t bloatware, everything. Therefore, there is no necessity to make a backup of stock 2.1 because you never have a need to.
I've had a magic before so I feel your pain of trying to learn ODIN and stuff but it's really easy. What you do is open up ODIN, press both volume up and down keys and hold them while you plug in the USB cable (of course while phone is powered down). You will see on ODIN that your device has been "added" and you press start and enjoy the show!
Once you are on stock, you have two options. 1) Re-root using one-click method, download rom manager, install Clockwork recovery, boot into recovery by pressing volume up+down+power button, select reinstall packages, select reinstall packages again when the phone reboots into recovery, and install your rom using CWM. 2) Push Clockwork recovery zip file to /sdcard, boot into recovery, repeat steps from above after recovery.
Unfortunately I don't have an update.zip file of CWM handy, so someone else can post it on here. Or what you can do is once you re-root and install CWM, keep that update.zip on your sdcard and next time you go back to stock, follow step #2
Hey guys!
I'm currently running the latest CM from nova-fusion but i have a problem with the usb port (its hardware related not software). It shows its still charging if i unplug the charger and i cannot connect it to the pc so i can't use Odin.
I have to restore it to stock everything so i can send it for repairs. I did a nandroid backup of the stock system so i can use that to restore the rom but i don't know how to flash the stock recovery without Odin. I am currently using TWRP 2.7.0.0.
Is "Recovery-Switcher" the alternative i am looking for? Is it capable of flashing my stock recovery back without the use of a cable? Also any thoughts on resetting the counter for custom rom's in download mode?
Thank you in advance!:highfive:
geo91 said:
Hey guys!
I'm currently running the latest CM from nova-fusion but i have a problem with the usb port (its hardware related not software). It shows its still charging if i unplug the charger and i cannot connect it to the pc so i can't use Odin.
I have to restore it to stock everything so i can send it for repairs. I did a nandroid backup of the stock system so i can use that to restore the rom but i don't know how to flash the stock recovery without Odin. I am currently using TWRP 2.7.0.0.
Is "Recovery-Switcher" the alternative i am looking for? Is it capable of flashing my stock recovery back without the use of a cable? Also any thoughts on resetting the counter for custom rom's in download mode?
Thank you in advance!:highfive:
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I know a way how to get the stock recovery back and reset the custom binary counter back to 0 without Odin.
So, I think you should first restore your backed up stock ROM. Then follow this :
1. Download your stock ROM from SamMobile and save it to your PC.
2. After successful download extract (unzip) it and RENAME the ...HOME.tar.md5 file to ...HOME.zip. Then you are able to extract system.img, cache.img etc. files.
3. Now extract the "recovery.img" file to your desktop. (It's the stock recovery)
4. After that remove your micro SD card from your S3 mini and put it into a other phone or card reader. (A important point!)
5. Move the recovery.img file to your micro SD card and put it back to your s3 mini. (Important point too!)
6. Now download triangle away from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/orig-development/2014-01-15-triangleaway-v3-26-t1494114. Install it and open it. Triangle Away can reset and set your phone status back to official. (triangle away needs ROOT access)
7. Reset your custom binary counter (You will get a warning message, this method may risks a soft brick but don't worry, triangle away supports s3 mini but only if you use stock ROM.)
8. Now your custom binary counter should show 0 in download mode.
9. Now download and install "rashr - recovery flasher" from play store. This app can flash recoveries as .img format (this app needs root access too) link to play store : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mkrtchyan.recoverytools
10. Open "Rashr - Recovery Flasher". Choose "flash revovery" > "other from storage" navigate to sdcard1 (mirco SD card) and choose "recovery.img" and flash it, of course!
11. Now you should have your stock recovery back (check it first )
12. If everything is ok then you are ready to unroot etc.
Good luck!!