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By now everyone knows the Droid X has an encrypted bootloader that is going to take a serious effort by the Android Developers to crack so we can load custom Rom's. What needs to be done is get Droid X phones into the hands of these developers so they can get to work. Pete(Bugless Beast) won the AllDroid contest so he has one and Birdman collected enough donations in just over a day to get a Droid X that he will have on 7/17. That's a start but I'd like for the Android community to pull together and lets get some donations to the developers, any amount helps $1, $2, $5 whatever the amount...skip the morning Dunkin Donuts, bagel, etc for one day and it will add up fast. I can continue to update this thread with new developers that can help us all by working on the Droid X as enough donations are collected so they can purchase their own phones. The developers create all the Roms, themes, etc for the rooting community to enjoy...lets make it a little easier for them to continue this development on all the new Android phones as they come to market.
I sent a few messages out to some developing teams and the first response back was from Cyanogen that the person he recommends is Koush. Once he has enough donations I can list another developer for us to donate to and help the rooting/unlocking cause.
Thanks to the Android community Koush should have a Droid X by Saturday to start hacking at that bootloader, I received numerous requests that a donation link be setup for ChevyNo1. I contacted Chevy to see if he was interested in helping hack the Droid X which he was. Here is a direct link for donations for him, you can check the link out over at his forums as well: http://ssandroid.com/
This is our chance, so lets start donating to ChevyNo1 for a Droid X, please put a note that the donation is for a DroidX: http://bit.ly/awetS5
If anyone would like to recommend a development team or developer let me know. Please spread the word, also you can let me know other Forums to post the same message.
A BIG THANKS TO BIRDMAN FOR ROOTING THE DROIDX
Man now you have me thinking about how much I miss Dunkin Donuts!! Sending you my donation tonight!! Good luck Dev's!
i saw what koush did with an incredible in a short period of time, donating to koush is def. a great idea, i will as soon as i can.
Just sent Koush $20
Whats the chance of Koush really being able to do anything? was he able to do with the milestone?
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Whats the chance of Koush really being able to do anything? was he able to do with the milestone?
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I don't believe Koush has a Milestone. The idea of my post is to get Droid X phones into the developers hands as quickly as possible, just so everyone knows these donations are not going to me but directly to the developer and as of right now that is Koush. When enough people donate I can list another developer, if anyone has someone in mind please post it up and I can contact them to see if they want to develop on the Droid X. Someone asked Cyanogen about cracking the Droid X bootloader, his response was everything can be be hacked.
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his response was everything can be be hacked.
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Everything CAN be hacked, but that is irrelevant. Everyone knows there's no such thing as an uncrackable encryption algorithm and such, the question is, can it be done in a reasonable amount of time or will it get cracked three years after its release when no one has one anymore, lol
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I don't believe Koush has a Milestone. The idea of my post is to get Droid X phones into the developers hands as quickly as possible, just so everyone knows these donations are not going to me but directly to the developer and as of right now that is Koush. When enough people donate I can list another developer, if anyone has someone in mind please post it up and I can contact them to see if they want to develop on the Droid X. Someone asked Cyanogen about cracking the Droid X bootloader, his response was everything can be be hacked.
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I would like to know of something that Koush has hacked that is worth something, I feel that I am investing in something that I have no idea of the work he has done. Not only that, you have 7 posts on XDA..........I am concerned but interested in this.
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I would like to know of something that Koush has hacked that is worth something, I feel that I am investing in something that I have no idea of the work he has done. Not only that, you have 7 posts on XDA..........I am concerned but interested in this.
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Koush is responsible for Clockwork Recovery, which I believe (Droid X is my first Android phone) is an indispensable program when it comes to messing with custom roms.
Riztnack when I asked Cyanogen who on Team Douche would be the one that he recommends to try to hack the Droid X, his response was Koush. I think Cyanogen and Team Douche has hacked plenty of devices and provided alot to the Android community. I would like to see someone from Team Unrevoked working on the Droid X as well as others, by banding together with small donations we can make this happen.
I always use the same name on any Forum/Twitter, I am active for the most part on DroidForums but some moderators/people are rubbing me the wrong way lately. Type FSRBIKER into Google, you can see I am involved in plenty of places....my Ebay name is Xterra so you can check that as well.
BTW I don't have a Droid X, I might if it can be hacked but I did donate and will to each developer that is working on it.
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Koush is responsible for Clockwork Recovery, which I believe (Droid X is my first Android phone) is an indispensable program when it comes to messing with custom roms.
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In addition, Koush is the individual responsible for porting Cyanogenmod to the original Droid - and he has maintained that port since the beginning...
Koush donations
I know Koush and Team Douche can do this, donation will go out tonight!
thanks
I sent a few messages out to some developing teams and the first response back was from Cyanogen that the person he recommends is Koush. Koush sent me the Paypal account info below for donations that will go to buying a Droid X. Once he has enough donations I can list another developer for us to donate to and help the rooting/unlocking cause.[/SIZE]
This is our chance, so lets start donating to Koush for a Droid X: [email protected]
Its Sent thanks in advance!
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I would like to know of something that Koush has hacked that is worth something, I feel that I am investing in something that I have no idea of the work he has done. Not only that, you have 7 posts on XDA..........I am concerned but interested in this.
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Makes me giggle:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
http://www.absolutelyandroid.com/the-man-who-rooted-the-g1-an-interview-with-koush/
Read up, Koush is an Android king like Cyanogen
might wanna buy this guy a phone
b16a2smith I have an sbf, who wants to test it?
b16a2smith Please RT. SBF on hand for #DroidX Bootloader 26.01 need testers.
dont know if its for real or not tho just wanted to share , maybe there is hope
found it here http://mobile.twitter.com/b16a2smith
This smells fishy.
MOD's I dont think it is right for some random person to post a paypal address that is somehow tied to a well known and respected dev. I see no reason why Koush could not have made this post himself.
Plus, the paypal address I have used in the past to donate to koush and the one listed here dont match, not that koush cant have two paypal addressess....but.....
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This smells fishy.
MOD's I dont think it is right for some random person to post a paypal address that is somehow tied to a well known and respected dev. I see no reason Koush could not have made this post himself.
Plus, the paypal address I have used in the past to donate to koush and the one listed here dont match, not that koush cant have two paypal addressess....but.....
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True, we can wait however long until he can do so, right??
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This smells fishy.
MOD's I dont think it is right for some random person to post a paypal address that is somehow tied to a well known and respected dev. I see no reason why Koush could not have made this post himself.
Plus, the paypal address I have used in the past to donate to koush and the one listed here dont match, not that koush cant have two paypal addressess....but.....
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The MOD's have verified this is Koush's account, if unsure you can verify it with Koush on Twitter. The thread was locked while the MOD's verified this information, maybe they can make everyone at ease and post it here again.
The intention of my post was not directed at any particular developer but the developer community in general. I am simply trying to get the ball rolling and presented an organized way of helping to get the Droid X into the developers hands as fast as possible. If anyone has any other suggestions please post up.
very nice idea!
P.I.M.P.
Koush is a def a pro! Look at this kid...
EDIT: 09/09/2010
The Wiki is comming along nicely, a thank you is in order to everyone who contributed. Of course it can always be improved, as such I am keeping the original post below. While we still don't have a great following for the DX on XDA we at least have a nice and organized page in which you can find links to the major breakthroughs and how-to's. If you are new to the DX and are looking for a place to begin, thanks to the fine people on this forum the XDA Droid X WIKI (Found Here) is a great place to begin
As new things are discovered for the Droid X we encourage you to add them to the Droid X WIKI, it can always be removed later if need be. It is a great start however. Thank You all, and good work.
From Sleuth255: Just a quick (slightly off topic) note to also say that XDA mods are here to help. The basis of XDA-developers is after all, development, and it is within device specific development forums such as this that all the magic happens. So here is my promise to all Droid X/Android XDA developers using the facilities of this forum: If you need help keeping a development thread "on topic", PM me and I'll place XDA's cosmic moderating powers at your disposal. Obviously, there's give and take here; we're a community based on idea sharing after all, but the point remains: Let's work together to make the Dx something truly amazing.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have more reading to do so I can further acquire "mad Dx/Android skills" without having to resort to noob tactics.
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So I have just come from my Droid Incredible... Yesterday as a matter of fact... And could not help but notice the complete lack of organization of all significant breakthroughs for the Droid X. As well as a lack of anything at all in the WIKI.
It actual made me miss the XDA Droid Incredible forum, which was a joke in comparison to the XDA Droid (original) forum... Point being it doesn't say a lot for our Droid X Forum...
SO! I figured I would put out a request to get this forum a bit more organized, even if that means doing so through the XDA Droid X wiki. At least here we can place links to the most significant breakthroughs, etc. I will start working on it myself as soon as I locate some of the more important breakthroughs, such as root, bootloader, Froyo upgrade and downgrade, and any others.
Find the Droid X WIKI Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Motorola_Droid_X.png
I invite everyone to help, after all not everyone was reading the forum from the start, and just for kicks some time, try searching "root" on any of these forums, you might as well just start scrolling through the pages without searching, because you'll get about the same number of results...
EDIT: So I have decided it is not the lack of effort for this forum as much as the number of occupants. Even the Droid Incredible Development forum (which is considered to be a phone lacking development backing) is being viewed by around 200 people at the moment of writing this. Ours (DX Development) currently only has 20 occupants... I have yet to see a phone in which XDA was not the main forum used for communication, perhaps this is the first?...
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So I have just come from my Droid Incredible... Yesterday as a matter of fact... And could not help but notice the complete lack of organization of all significant breakthroughs for the Droid X. As well as a lack of anything at all in the WIKI.
It actual made me miss the XDA Droid Incredible forum, which was a joke in comparison to the XDA Droid (original) forum... Point being it doesn't say a lot for our Droid X Forum...
SO! I figured I would put out a request to get this forum a bit more organized, even if that means doing so through the XDA Droid X wiki. At least here we can place links to the most significant breakthroughs, etc. I will start working on it myself as soon as I locate some of the more important breakthroughs, such as root, bootloader, Froyo upgrade and downgrade, and any others.
Find the Droid X WIKI Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Motorola_Droid_X.png
I invite everyone to help, after all not everyone was reading the forum from the start, and just for kicks some time, try searching "root" on any of these forums, you might as well just start scrolling through the pages without searching, because you'll get about the same number of results...
EDIT: So I have decided it is not the lack of effort for this forum as much as the number of occupants. Even the Droid Incredible Development forum (which is considered to be a phone lacking development backing) is being viewed by around 200 people at the moment of writing this. Ours (DX Development) currently only has 20 occupants... I have yet to see a phone in which XDA was not the main forum used for communication, perhaps this is the first?...
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You are correct.. I am sad as well coming from the HTC touch where the XDA following was huge...
There isn't so much love for the X here on XDA and you are not alone in hoping it changes!
I'll help out when I get back in town tonight. This place is not user friendly.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
**EDIT** - I just updated it with some standard info... more will come soon.
BUMP!!!
This thread needs to be stickied!!!
Yeah I agree... Seems like a popular enough phone, apparently not with the devs though. So, I have decided to go ahead and start building my own rom. My first theme is almost done too...
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Ill give a helping hand...
I agree, with everyone who has posted so far. I'm bummed that there aren't people flooding these X forums... I'm not great at development or anything, but have done a decent amount of information compiling for the Wiki at the server lab I manage, and would be willing to help contribute in any way I can!
Agreed.
I usually lurk around in XDA, but it is the first place I check out DX info.
I'll help with whatever I can.
NOOB would love to help
Although I am not new to XDA forums, ( I owe my sanity to you guys for getting me through some of the hairy spots in the WinMo days), I am totally new to Android. I started with the HTC Aria, then got tired of AT&T's BS, so I went to Verizon (where I now have 3G in my home!!). I started there with the Droid 2 but I wanted a better screen and the extra memory so I just picked up my Droid X (after waiting 3 weeks) today. I'm excited, but I know that there are deficiencies - such as no update yet for the DX.
I don't know what I can do to help, but I've always learned that the best way to get acquainted with something is to sometimes just dive in with both feet. I'm just a lowly System Admin Manager for an IT company. DROID X excites me and we truly do need to bring in whatever is needed to get our membership to a level that's worthy of Moto's 'flagship' phone.
Just let me know what I can do to help and I'm there - as I said, I owe you guys big time.
Maraming salamat (many thanks),
Miguel
Now that this is stickied... you should change the title and first post to something along the lines of: "Look Here First" "New to the Droid X" "Noob ALERT!!"
Lol, ok.. maybe not the last one but something similar. Then edit the first post to something explaining the wiki or just the link.
It will help out on confusion in the threads and open ppl eyes to things that are going on and getting lost in the shuffle.
The biggest issue I have seen, is that XDA is an HTC forum, and the Devs dont mess with the Motorolla devices. Other forums have devs that work on the DX and that is where the traffic is. P3Droid, Koush and Birdman have completed the most significant breakthroughs, and they are not a part of this forum. I wish this place had more of a DX following too...for now, I stick with MDW.
Well I just recieved my DX yesterday. Thanks to this great wiki and the people behind it, I was able to root and do some modifying with in the first hour of having my phone, and I didn't have to tear through the forums. Thanks for all of the effort and keep up the good work.
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The biggest issue I have seen, is that XDA is an HTC forum, and the Devs dont mess with the Motorolla devices. Other forums have devs that work on the DX and that is where the traffic is. P3Droid, Koush and Birdman have completed the most significant breakthroughs, and they are not a part of this forum. I wish this place had more of a DX following too...for now, I stick with MDW.
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I like MDW alot as well, man, but I DO notice that a good number of posts there will link back to something here in the DX forum on XDA. So, it seems that the higher ups at MDW do at least lurk or contribute here as well.
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Well I just recieved my DX yesterday. Thanks to this great wiki and the people behind it, I was able to root and do some modifying with in the first hour of having my phone, and I didn't have to tear through the forums. Thanks for all of the effort and keep up the good work.
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nice!
after 2 months, I still want to keep my 2.1 OS (in case I want to start some coding on it & 2.1 is a safe version to test on). But I will definitely upgrade to official 2.2 OTA.
btw, is there a list of reasons in the wiki to root & upgrade to 2.2?
Hi! Thanks for getting this wiki and DX forum organized, CaptainTaco and all! I'm relatively new to Android, the DX, and rooting, and all that entails, and was looking for a place to start... and here I am! Have been hearing about XDA for a while, and look forward to learning and contributing as I can!
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Hi! Thanks for getting this wiki and DX forum organized, CaptainTaco and all! I'm relatively new to Android, the DX, and rooting, and all that entails, and was looking for a place to start... and here I am! Have been hearing about XDA for a while, and look forward to learning and contributing as I can!
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Welcome aboard. Just make sure you read everything you can before asking a question. I usually ask Google first before I post in a thread. You can also use the hand search feature at the top of the forum.
I say this cause ppl can get pretty heated for threads started asking questions or posting information that has already been answered or giving.
You can always pm me or hit me up on gtalk. A lot of ppl do and I enjoy turning the light bulb on for ppl lol
I've been lurking since I got my new phone, glad to be here. I'm rooted on 2.2 OTA and have learned some about the signed boot loader and latest updates via lurking and searching different forums each day. The wiki looks very complete as far as I can tell, great job!
Thanks for all the work on the Wiki. Great stuff!
I'm coming up to speed on Android/DX now. Very cool platform. I'll be helping more/developing for the Dx soon.
I may not post here much but I try to pay attention and read as often as I can.
P3droid is also a member here as jimmydafish.
Motorola devices will always be second class citizens on this forum...just the way it is.
For the last 6 months I've been hosting files for developers in the Eris section. I made the site to people wouldn't have to use all that MultiUpload crap, got sick of the waiting 60 seconds to download a file, entering a verification code, etc etc.
Anyways, the site's worked well. You can direct link to your files, upload everything via a simple web interface.
I just thought I'd offer the site to developers in other forums now.
http://android.grdlock.net
Anyways, if you're interested in using it to host your files, just make a username on the site real quick, shoot me a PM, and I'll give it upload permissions.
And no, this isn't an advertisement or anything. People in the Eris section have just liked using the website over MultiUpload, so I thought I'd offer to let other people use my bandwidth as well.
GrdLock, you are the MAN! I was in the Eris section before, and appreciated having the hosting you set up for the developers. It made things so much easier. Thanks!!
Its nice to see you back GrdLock! Thanks for the hosting while I had my Eris, I used your site A LOT. Very simple and easy to navigate, Much appreciated!
Welcome back.
Now, Its time to get you to start deving on the X!
Great to see you pop up over here Grdlock! Your site, all the great devs and just the support community in general at the XDA Eris section will have anybody spoiled. Good to see familiar faces over here ,we got Lexus Brian AKA "Beesley™" in da house. Things are looking better and better over here in the Droid X section.
Visit Groubal and sign the petition: http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
Retweet: http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/52265679990169600
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/unlockmoto
UPDATE (14th June 2011):
We are now over the 10,000 mark.
I have now spoken with Motorola and gotten confirmation that Motorola plan to unlock every device that will get an update in the second half of this year. This will include maintenance & firmware updates, but is still subject to Carrier approval.
The promising sign is that Verizon has already allowed Motorola to unlock a device on their network, the Xoom, which utilizes the unlockable/re-lockable model that Motorola intends on using across their devices.
I'm still looking to work with Motorola in the coming months to help see if we can make this a smooth process for Motorola and the community.
You can read the article here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/06/14/an-u...witter&utm_campaign=Feed:+ausdroid+(Ausdroid)
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
UPDATE (26th April 2011):
We are now at ~8,700 mark.
Motorola has now responded to me, stating that they are looking at unlocking bootloaders across their devices late 2011.
The article for the story can be found here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/26/the-little-aussie-taking-on-motorola-u-s/#more-8184
We're still seeking clarity around whether this will be for current devices or only future devices.
I couldn't have gotten this far without the support of everyone here. You guys and girls have been a huge support and help me turn this snowball into a wrecking ball.
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
Previous Update (4th April 2011):
We are now at ~7600 mark.
We're starting to slow down from our initial boom, so I have now set up a Facebook page to see if we can wrangle in some supporters that don't use Twitter or XDA.
I will need your help getting this out there. So share the facebook page where you can.
I'm also looking to see if anyone is interested in helping me Moderate the page. Please PM if you are.
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Hi All,
I have created a Groubal (online petition) to get a response from Motorola on it's bootloader policy.
>>This petition started for the Atrix, but I made sure that it was for Motorola's overall Bootloader Policy. I have reached 200 signatures in 2 weeks, but now believe it's time to expand this out of the Atrix space and into the larger Motorola Dev community.
Ok guys, we now have nearly 800 signatures, nearly 500 in one night alone.
Keep up the great work everyone, this wouldn't be going anywhere without your support.
Sent from my Atrix (in Australia)
signed
10 char
Thank you everyone for your support.
Updated First Post!
I put it on facebook and i signed it. I really want this phone and bootloaders makes it a no deal.
Used my fascinating voodoo powers
Just updated Original Post, some very interesting developments today.
I posted/reposted everywhere i know to and asked for them to repost. Hopefully moto will get this.
Used my fascinating voodoo powers
Signed. Does anyone else feel this should be posted in the General section of every android device? We need to protect AOSP!
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Signed. Does anyone else feel this should be posted in the General section of every android device? We need to protect AOSP!
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It would be even better if we could get XDA to post it as an announcement across all the forums, but unfortunately I don't know any of the administrators well enough to do it.
If you want to champion that for us, that would be greatly appreciate. I'm starting to find myself spread to thin on this one.
Groubal has been attacked again!
Hello Irwin,
Yes indeed...Groubal was hacked once again. We have our technical team and our hosting enterprise working feverishly on this to remedy the problem.
Clearly your petition and all your supporters have touched off serious nerves; and your message has created amazing awareness around the world now.
We will fix the problem and move forward. Please take the time to let everyone know on all the forums what has happened to Groubal.
Thanks in advance,
Groubal Customer Care
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I will update the post when they are back to normal operations.
I posted this on a few other forums around xda. I also posted this on fascinates forum to since thats where i hang out. I got a bunch of negative feedback at first. Then come to find out the new samsung phones are going to have it too.
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Updated OP
Just sent this tip to Engadget.com
Please shed some light on the petition by the Android user community requesting that Motorola to unlock the bootloaders on their Droid phones. Smartphones are not just phones that can browse the web, they are mobile computing devices that can make phone calls.
We pay a large sum of money to own these mobile computing devices but we are not able to modify the operating system like any other personal computer that each of us own.
http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
Thank you,
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Just sent this tip to Engadget.com
Please shed some light on the petition by the Android user community requesting that Motorola to unlock the bootloaders on their Droid phones. Smartphones are not just phones that can browse the web, they are mobile computing devices that can make phone calls.
We pay a large sum of money to own these mobile computing devices but we are not able to modify the operating system like any other personal computer that each of us own.
http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
Thank you,
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Thank you. Hopefully they will shed their spot lights on it.
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Thanks everyone for the support, Motorola has noticed us.
Updated OP.
I had not realized that you posted on the dx forum. I found a list where you have posted. I've been posting to milestone 2, fascinate, and facebook. I will keep these 3 up to date with the info you pass out.
Updated OP.
New Facebook Page!
SIGNED!!!!!
We need to get as many ppl to sign this as we can.
signed!!
moto and other manufactures need to stop this!! if we buy a device...we have the right to do what we want with it...its our money!!!
Signed. I'm rocking a Thunderbolt right now, but I still play with my Droid X from time to time.
*Walks slowly out on stage, looking slightly tired*
Hello all,
A long time ago if you recall I gave away G+ invites. Some people didn't get it, and I really didn't want to type those emails again. I snooped around the "Notifications" area of G+, and I found a loophole to get in. I tested this on a different account, so I know it works. For me at least.
Simply navigate to this link:
https://plus.google.com/_/notificat...q6PPBddlXk0yrYVa8Jg-N23Yx0ukukHw6tO0qIbNM5qus
And you will see one of the following pages:
1. Sign in with your Google account - do just that.
2. Big G+ page with a Sign in button - click that
3. Something totally different - post here and say it didn't work, I''l find a new link.
Again, I tested it so it should work. If not, like #3 says, post here with a screenshot of the page you get. No flaming, please.
Thanks!
"Google+ is in limited Field Trial
Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people."
Yesterday I saw "You have 150 invites!" in Google Plus, and when you signed into Google it invited you right in. shrug
Weird, I was never invited, but I'm using G+...weird I iizzzz confuzled...
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA Premium App
Here you guys go 150 inviteshttps://plus.google.com/_/notifications/ngemlink?path=/?gpinv=HDYc5hZXzF8:3YHXc8kb95k
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
Remarkable. Worked for me just now, despite checking mere minutes before to find out the registration was closed, even to those with an invite.
thanks!
Worked Great Thanks