have a problem with OCLF. need HELP ! - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i have samsung captivate with android 2.2
when i run quadrant i get a score of 1500~
i understand that it's low compere to other cap's 2.2 and i downloaded OCLF2.3 from here.
when i opened it i see that the 'oneclicklagfix v2.2+" is mark as unavailable.
when i try to click it i get "you do not have a /system/bin/playlogos1/ /system/bin/playlogo file!"
what should i do ?
what's wrong ?
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I would stop doing what you are doing, sounds like you have a lagfix already and I would not want to add oclf on top of it. quadrant scores are for the must part useless
If the phone feels fast leave it alone. If not consider a different rom
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i bought the captivate with allready 2.2 install in it.
how can i check if i have lagfix install ?
when i try some live wallpaper i can see that the phone is less quick or i can say little slow.
takes some time for the launcher to view.
quadrant score maybe useless between diffrent phone but if there are two captivate's and one get 2500+ and mine get only 1500 something wrong.
i feel like i'm getting the full potential of this phone and i'm not gonna be satisfied with less when i can get more from this excellent phone. (or more simple - I want 100% power of the phone and not 50%. even if 50% of the galaxy s is still one of the best phone now)

Ok
Go to settings, about phone
Towards the bottom tell me the baseband, kernel, build
Go to my files, look to see if there is a folder on your sd that says voodoo
1500 is a good quadrant score. Stock your quad score is around 800. On 2.2 with out lagfix it is around 1000. Do not get hung up on this number, if you are getting 2500 quad scores it is an illusion

baseband version:
I897UCJJ4
kernel version:
2.6.32.9
[email protected]#1
build number:
cognition.v2

If you have Cognition running on your phone it means you have a Lagfix already applied.
Running OCLF on top of it is useless as the file system has already been changed and all you would be doing is screwing things up making it worse not better.
Quadrant is not designed for any Samsung Galaxy line of phones as you can skew the numbers fairly easily. I have had 1900+ scores running Eclair and OCLF - but it didn't mean that the phone was actually "faster" - it was just circumventing the way Quadrant tested my phone.
If you are that concerned I would suggest backing up your apps - flash back to stock, and try re-flashing to a newer version of Cognition (or any of the other great ROMs out there - take your pick).
Just make sure you READ - I'd start with the Q&A sticky as it will point you to the important posts you need to know before flashing.

+1 above. You should read, read, and read some more. If you purchased the phone from someone else I would be happy it works at all, and that the person did not dump you a brick.
If I was you I would go back to stock using odin, master clear, this way you erase whatever the last owner may of done. start from a clean slate, then move forward as you see fit
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Noob ?'s about root.

I'm sure the answers are posted here someplace but my search skills suck. And I can't find the info. So here are my questions.
Trying to deside whether or not to root. And was wondering if anyone has benchmarks for a stock Droid compared to the diferant levels of overclocking?
Also wondering if I would be able to get the payed apps I have now on my phone back loaded considering alot of them are listed as privet and they will not let me back them up.?.
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Not sure about the benchmarks but I also have paid apps. The market saves your information andcafter rooting you can go back to download section of market and should say purchased next to apps you've bought and allow you to install them again. I've switch phones, roms and etc many times but they're always available again in download section. Also if you root and install froyo, it backs them up to your account and re-installs them automatically every time you flash a new rom. Just make sure you use the same info when setting up the phone.
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I wanted to comment on your benchmark question...
This alone should influence you to root your Droid. I am running CyanogenMod 6.0 Froyo with ChevyNo1 1200mhz ULTRA low voltage kernel. My battery life is fantastic given the CPU frequency and my phone linpacks at 18-20mflops. I know this is not a very realistic benchmark test but in comparison, a stock Droid will throw out about 6-8mflops.
What I really want to show you, however, is the result from Quadrant, which runs a CPU and graphics benchmark test and shows you a graph comparing your phone to other phones like the Droid (stock) and Nexus One and other popular Android phones.
Give me 5 minutes and I'll have a screenshot up (just transfering some pics)
Okay, look at the screenshot below... my Droid is the yellow bar at the top, and the stock Droid is the second one from the bottom. BIGGGG difference in performance!
Also, aerdely is right about the paid apps... they'll show up in your market so you can re-download them.
I know there's lots of options but I have to ask. What's the most stable 2.2 out there? One with everything working (wifi Bluetooth and all) .
I'm not into the whole changing roms ten times a week thing. Mostly because after setting up apps and preferances on 4 replacement phones over the past 6 months .
I hear 2.2 backs up and redownloads apps, but does it also remember icon setup and app preferences?
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Check this out: http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/linpack-by-device/
The Droid is the fastest phone, save for that Samsung at number 2 overall. The Droids seem to be analogous to "dynoqueens" in the car world because I doubt those 54 MFLOPS devices are running at a stable temperature. So they're just overclocked and maxed out, though for only a few seconds just to get that number.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
The Droid is a very capable device, though. 30 MFLOPS seems to be consistent and is a very good benchmark number for a phone that is about nine months old.
those are fake numbers... guaranteed
With 2.2 and a 1.3ghz kernel you might see 20 mflops
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With 2.2 and a 1.3ghz kernel you might see 20 mflops
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Highest I've hit running ChevyNo1 1250mhz Ultra Low Voltage kernel was like 19.7
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Highest I've hit running ChevyNo1 1250mhz Ultra Low Voltage kernel was like 19.7
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I pull a 19.3 on my 1.25 kernel on froyo
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OK my stats are as follows
Quadrant 375
LinPack 4.5 mflops
Neocore 24.5 fps
So after looking around at everyone's stats I have made up my mind to take the leep and root !
I have been doing alot of reading and have a few idea's of what I should load up but would like to ask for opinions.
I'm looking for a 2.2 it does not have to be anything funky or over the top just has to work properly with wifi and everything, with a ULV or LV 1.0ghz to 1.25ghz.
My work is a very hot place all year around and I live on my phone on my many many breaks at work so I would really like a kernel that run's cool but pumps the speed..
Opinions, suggestions, recommendations and LINKS to downloads please.
Also please feel free to PM me if you have the time to help a Noob like me with a few dozen ?'s
Thanx all for the input so far and I want to get everything downloaded and get my phone pimped out ASAP so let's get the suggestions rolling
Thanx again
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...so go stock.
So use the FRG01B leak that's supposed to be "stock" from Verizon. Without any further modification, it'll bump your top speed to 800 Mhz, but would allow you to see what's going on without really endangering anything.
It'll also give you a fair benchmark (personally) as to the speed of Froyo before you decide to bump things further.
is there anyway i can root without wiping the phone? im on 2.1 right now. i would just use titanium but you need root to even do that.
THeres ana app called easy root, for a buck...... gives u ROOT access, to say, install rom manager, flash the clockwork recovery and from there, install any zip.
for a buck, seems pretty nice vs. figuring out how to root the damn droid.
Rooted via easy root. and now playing with sapphire 1.0
USMC-Delta said:
THeres ana app called easy root, for a buck...... gives u ROOT access, to say, install rom manager, flash the clockwork recovery and from there, install any zip.
for a buck, seems pretty nice vs. figuring out how to root the damn droid.
Rooted via easy root. and now playing with sapphire 1.0
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so thatll do a complete nand unlock? thats cool. thanks
They suspended easy root from the market. ? .
It was there this morning and I was going to grab it then but my credit card was a used up prepayed card so had to wait till now to get off work and get a new card for my account. I did that only to find out the app has been removed from the market.. Come on goggle give it back ! I love goggle but this is FAIL . There are many people that have payed for the app and now can't redownload it thats even more crappy then the fact that I can't buy it...
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Did you do online watch, I did quick one and its available on mediafire so far from what I can see. I just typed easy root apk in search bar.
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Ok here's some good news just found that dm updater has been updated to root droid1, droidx, evo-4g. Try it. Here's the URL.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-news/65007-dmupdater-updated-root-droid-1-droid-x-evo-4g-within-app.html
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Ok sorry everyone dm updater wasn't available sorry guys.
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Hows that for a benchmark? Root it, and you too can enjoy screen capture, over/under clocking, Flash, Bluetooth voicedialing...it's a no-brainer.
Ok I guess I'm done looking for the easy way out.
Please advise if I got all this right before I screw something up..
1. Download RSD Lite, the 2.0.1 .sbf file
, and the Motorola Drivers.
Motorola Drivers (for 32 bit Computers) OR Motorola Drivers (for 64 bit Computers)
RSD Lite
Droid 2.0.1 Firmware
Install and do what is posted here http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/04/how-to-root-the-motorola-droid-android-2-1/
up too step 3 then in place of there download use whats found here
http://sapphire.ccroms.net/wiki/releases/sapphire-1.0.0
and I'm rooted with sapphire and good too go right ?
Thanx
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[Q] Speed mod is SLOWER?

Hello everyone, I have a Captivate flashed with a darkytt3r v8.1 ROM. I ran a quadrant standard benchmark and got a pretty good 1105 Mhz. Then I realized I hadn't even flashed speedmod-kernel-i897-k12o-500hz-CWM. After I flashed it from the SGS kernal flasher and then i did another benchmark and got 1018. Did that ROM come with a better speed mod that I overwrote with this one? Can anybody suggest a good speed mod to put on my phone? I like to have my phone push the boundary's of going so fast it combusts so the faster the bester
Am I seeing double?
As long as you try to fix it you can see whatever you want haha
Stop using quadrant!!!
Use whatever kernel feels fastest.
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I am sure that soon there are going to be anti-quadrant lynchmobs comprised of more than half the people in the SGS forums.
Dupont, the succinct fact of the matter is that quadrant means nothing.
As far as I know (and am concerned), Linpack is the only somewhat worthwhile benchmarking utility, second only to simply how the UI feels in your hands.
Also, before we jump to conclusions, do you enable any lagfixes?
Beyond what I've already stated, it doesn't take all that much to quickly look over the 5 or so worthwhile kernels in the development section and make an educated decision on your own.
I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any
Dupontrocks11 said:
I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any
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That quadrant disparity you might be experiencing might be due to darky 8.1 having a preinstalled, enabled by default lagfix that disappeared when you installed the speedmod kernel.
I don't mean to be a tough-love welcome party (by the way, welcome to the android community), but I know I did a lot of reading about, messing with, and messing up my phone before I even joined the captivate forums.
Do yourself a favor and read some of the dev stickies about ROMs, kernels, and modems just to get a bit better of an idea of their basic purpose/function, then look through the rest of the dev threads for kernels that might be what you're looking for, but (more importantly) would be compatible with your ROM.
It seems like a PITA, but knowing more about how your phone works will benefit you a great deal in the long run. Put in the time, reading, and careful experimenting right now, and you'll be flashing ROMs like a pro in no time.
Speedmod is also just the name of a Kernel. It is not a type of thing that goes on your phone. If you want the fastest speed, use an overclocked Kernel. I have used them in the past, but have always came back to Speedmod because it gets updated so regularly and also has the Voodoo Sound fix.
Thanks guys. I have no problem flashing roms as I watched many video on how to and read many articles on it. Also it might help that my father is senior member of this site with more than 10000 posts . I'll search through and see if I can't learn more about it.
Thanks again, Richard
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Debating on overclocking my phone

I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.
jamezz23 said:
I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.
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TBHIMO , i wouldn't overclock because it's fast enough even at 800Mhz (what i'm running at) . i like having a longer lasting phone .
BUT if you are not content with 1Ghz , then i think you should flash a kernel with Xan's Undervolting App compatible and overclock so you can undervolt at higher clock speeds .
not too sure what the temps would be when overclocked since i never OCd my phone . OCing decreases the battery life of the processor FYI .
Okay thanks for your opinion. Like you I also don't want to decrease my phones lifespan. But I have also read people saying if your phones temp stays normal that it does not harm your phone anyway at all. Looking to get a few more opinions.
I tried it and couldn't be patient enough to get it stable even at 1200MHz, so I left it as is. It's quite fast already, but needed to try it out to make sure I wasn't missing out. To be honest I was more interested in UVing the phone to increase my already good battery life on Serendipity.
Most if not all Captivates can do 1200Mhz at stock voltages. This will however raise your temps just a bit, hence the reason to UV.
If I were you just try it at 1200 and see where that gets you. If you can get that going, you can always write down your settings and push it a bit further. Here's the oft-circulated guide to OCing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10936691&postcount=1102
If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then be happy knowing your phone is plenty fast already
Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.
jamezz23 said:
Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.
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umm, you aren't running stock right? You have to be running a kernel that supports oc/uv
Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol
shaolin95 said:
Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol
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Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.
jamezz23 said:
Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.
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If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.
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If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.
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All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.
Well, my cappy is 2 weeks old, I'm running Serendipity and LOVING it. Do a lot of reading b4 doing any rom's. It's not that simple. I suggest titanium back up, from the market, as well as rom manager. Back up ur apps. I just flashed paragons kernel, search this site for it. It had 3 or 4 versions of it from stock to oc'd to 1400. I started with a 1280 oc and now running 1360? Approx. I am blazing fast and no problems at all. If you have a custom rom oc'ing shouldn't be an issue, just read, read, read. Good luck.
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jamezz23 said:
All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.
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Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.
you dont need to overclock unless you do heavy processing, such as running 3d games and emulators. i only overclock when gaming and throw it back down to 1000mhz under normal conditions.
shaolin95 said:
Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.
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And aside from being a little complicated, CM7 isn't in it final release yet so it will be buggy, which if you are new to Android isn't a good ROM to start with. Check out the Android Development section. The top ROMs (based on visits to their Topics, but not in Order) are Serendipity, Cognition, Firefly, Phoenix, Darky's......there are more but that is off the top of my head.
Darkys is a little complicated for a beginner. Don't forget Continuum. Cezar just released v4.
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I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly
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I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly
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+1 on trying cognition. If you like the stock look and feel it's a good place to start. I personally dont see much of a difference when I have my phone overclocked to 1500. Maybe thats just me though.
Im running serendipity 6.3 now and I think my phone is very fast. I had an inspire and an atrix and to be honest my captivate is almost if not as fast as they were.
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My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
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My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
Google "xda captivate won't boot", gotta put some effort in man!
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Thanks for all the replies. My buddy has done some flashing before and we are gonna do this process together so I don't mess anything up. We are going with cognition 4.3, looks to be most stable and has the no lag fix and some other cool stuff. The videos that we will be following is for a older cognition, version 4 I believe, the process should still be the same right? Also the videos was published by mobiletechreviews, I believe that he is part of the xda community. So this is what I'm leaning on doing tomorrow when my buddy comes over, but if someone mentions something better we'd definitely like to hear about it. The person that said they prefer wirefly or I think that's what he called it, can you tell me why you like that better? Thanks for the help so far.

Discussion - Fastest 2.1 ROM for Milestone

Hi guys,
I've flashed CM6.1 ROM (Froyo 2.2) to my Milestone a few weeks ago - and was enjoying it till one day I accidentaly hard reset and noticed that I have also removed the default launcher from ROM. So I had black screen and nothing appears after the phone was booted.
Well I could just have copied a launcher over from the PC, but I decided to restore my Nandroid backup.
To my surprise, the backup was the stock 2.1 Eclair ROM. So I was frustrated a bit to lose Froyo.
But after using Eclair 2.1 for a week or so, I have never enjoyed using the Milestone as much as this. It's fast and responsive, better than when I had Froyo.
I wanted to ask - is it true that Eclair 2.1 IS faster than Froyo, or did I flashed a slow Froyo ROM? In terms of memory management is great too. I can open more apps and keep them running than I can remember with my Froyo. With Froyo, I've encountered like foreground app close, and changing from one app to another will eventually killed the last app and had to load it back.
Or can someone recommend a very fast and good memory management of Froyo ROM for my milestone? Or it's really - Ok let's cut the crap and go straight to the point - Eclair that's leading in this race (and I've won?). Edit : The Eclair won!
I do miss the Flash 10 on Froyo... sigh, if only I can get it on Eclair still.
Thanks.
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Update: Well it's not a true-not-true anymore but it is TRUE that Eclair does run much faster than Froyo or Gingerbread. I'm using Telus 5.2 Eclair and I just can't believe the speed that I'm getting (it's like Milestone on steroid!). See my post on 2nd page. And no I'm not with Telus or related or what, but I highly recommend this ROM to Eclair users out there. This is definitely a keeper! I've also covered about the battery life and tempreture on the post on 2nd page. Have a read, and don't hesitate to flash Telus, you will never regret it. Now I am more hesitate to flash over to Froyo or Gingerbread even more after using it! Hey, I feel like I can outbeat a Tegra even
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Update: First of all I'm renaming this thread from "Milestone 2.1 Eclair faster than 2.2 Froyo" to "Discussion - Fastest 2.1 ROM for Milestone".
I saw some users asking about where this Telus 5.2 Eclair is.. so I'm providing the link here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717377.
No I am not associated with the dev who made that ROM or whatsoever, and I am not duplicating the thread. Merely suggesting the fastest 2.1 ROM available (currently), for those who are not the 'wait and obey' users of Milestone, but to the 'commander' users of this device. Continuous discussions about which is the fastest 2.1 ROMs are still welcomed here, and of course, any ROM comparison discussions with other various versions (eg. 1.6, 2.2, 2.3, 3.0??) should head over here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029887
I haven't used Eclair in a long time but I remember how clad i was when I flashed a custom ROM for a first time (some Cm7 nightly) and on my case my milestone felt blazing fast even with bad memory management and I "promised" I never go back to stock eclair and have kept that promise. I'm now running FroyoMod 2.6.1b and this is probably the most stable rom I've ever had and if u haven't tried it then u should because it just might me the rom that ur looking for when it comes to stability and capabilities.
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Hey MakeW00t , sounds interesting. But fast alone isn't enough for me. Good memory management plays a vital role as well. I just hate to see vital apps (eg. navigational software) got killed just because I had to read my SMS or check a few things on the calendar!
Anyway, thanks for your recommendation. Maybe I'll flash FroyoMod 2.6.1b when I feel Eclair is not enough.
I've been through that before "I never go back to stock eclair" But now that I had it back.. I can't see any reason NOT to..
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Hi guys,
But after using Eclair 2.1 for a week or so, I have never enjoyed using the Milestone as much as this. It's fast and responsive, better than when I had Froyo.
Thanks.
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Same here, it is nice to have a PHONE again, and Eclair makes it real... Sad but true... I tried and tested almost all mods available on this forum (including official stock froyo update and Froyo Mod 2.6, which unfortunately also appears to be frustrating and sluggish after only 2-3 days of intensive use, without too much apps installed at all!)... must admit that my personal favorite is MIUI by lalit79 (recommendations, great job done lalit!), but after some serious stability/speed issues in latest version (overheating during battery charge, ext2/4 not working whatever method I tried, FCs), Eclair is the ultimate choice of the moment (I need a stable and reliable device, for calls and long bussines emails, no crashes or FC-s or reboots)... at least, until a new MIUI version is ready... If you already didn't, try rooting and overclocking eclair with milestone OC (@900/56) - it gives a nice final touch of ultimate speed and joy of "Phone Without Compromise" (and official froyo is one BIG compromise, if you ask me)....
cheers!
Hi mcekic. Well as a matter of fact I did OC my Milestone using Milestone Overclock to 1000Mhz, 69vsel. Battery life is ok so I guess I'll stick with it for a while (If not I will use your 900/56, should give me more battery life - logically).
I believe I have the same needs as you, to have a real PHONE again!
Don't get me wrong, Froyo does have all the extra functionalities (I miss App2SD and Flash 10 the most - but I heard that this is possible on Eclair as well? Havn't done my homework yet in regards to this) but in the end, all that functionalities goes to waste when the performance is sacrificed.
I have also OC'ed the phone to 1Ghz when I was running Froyo. But I think the main culprit is the memory management. It just can't stop killing apps, and when it does, the phone felt slow. I used Autokiller, that helped a bit, but Eclair still wins.
Now, does anyone knows the best Eclair ROM ? I need a naked ROM if available. Whoa now that would be super fast!
Guys, I think this thread would fit in this one very well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029887
Roms: Continuous comparison of milestone roms and updates
well s0ulreaver, now that you mentioned it, I do think this discussion would very well belong there.
Can any mod possibly merge this?
I think Froyo is so heavy for MS. But in another view, it's not too bad.
Did you try stock ROM from Motorola?
Except DSI, I think it's acceptable. You can run at 550MHz without any problem.
With CM6, I have to OC at 750.
But now I use it for daily uses, because it's very convenience.
neato4u said:
It just can't stop killing apps, and when it does, the phone felt slow. I used Autokiller, that helped a bit, but Eclair still wins.
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yup, went back to eclair after several froyo/gb roms (cm6, froyomod, miui, cm7).
our milestone just don't have the ram for anything more memory demanding than eclair
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Now, does anyone knows the best Eclair ROM ? I need a naked ROM if available. Whoa now that would be super fast!
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i tried stock 2.1 from moto germany but then switched to telus lite 5.2 with a gb skin. it runs smooth and stable like a rock and can handle multiple apps in mem (facebook, maps, opera and minor stuff like talk, gmail, etc at the same time).
besides the skin it is pretty vanilla and wields all the nice stuff like overclocking and the cache hack.
Eclair is the best. i overclocked at 800Mhz with 58 Volts. Its smooth and no bugs/issues. It never restarts and works just fine.
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I think Froyo is so heavy for MS. But in another view, it's not too bad.
Did you try stock ROM from Motorola?
Except DSI, I think it's acceptable. You can run at 550MHz without any problem.
With CM6, I have to OC at 750.
But now I use it for daily uses, because it's very convenience.
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You mean stock Froyo ROM from Motorola? No I haven't tried it yet, but I saw this guy here posted Froyo stock running flash 10.2 on his Milestone overclocked to 1.2Ghz and it runs great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCspAW8RzA
i have never saw flash video that plays so smooth on the Milestone - and am happy to see one! I'm gonna try Froyo stock when i have the time, but of course, I need to do a Nandroid backup first
What's a DSI?
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yup, went back to eclair after several froyo/gb roms (cm6, froyomod, miui, cm7).
our milestone just don't have the ram for anything more memory demanding than eclair
i tried stock 2.1 from moto germany but then switched to telus lite 5.2 with a gb skin. it runs smooth and stable like a rock and can handle multiple apps in mem (facebook, maps, opera and minor stuff like talk, gmail, etc at the same time).
besides the skin it is pretty vanilla and wields all the nice stuff like overclocking and the cache hack.
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Well, I believe you're an experienced custom froyo ROM user then. For me I didn't have the time to flash that many froyo ROMs to test. But hey, I guess you've saved my time by sharing your experience with it right
Cool, I should not be doing much this weekend so I think I'll make up some time to flash telus lite 5.2 - The most important thing for me is to have a reliable phone, and a responsive one as well. Based on your recommendation, I think telus lite 5.2 fits the bill. Will try it out and give my opinion on it later. Thanks!
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Eclair is the best. i overclocked at 800Mhz with 58 Volts. Its smooth and no bugs/issues. It never restarts and works just fine.
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Hey I was running on 1Ghz 69vsel, now trying 800Mhz 58vsel. Hopefully there is a noticeable difference in the battery life! Thanks hp13!
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Based on your recommendation, I think telus lite 5.2 fits the bill.
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btw: if you want a gingerbread-look on telus lite (as the default skin and fonts are ugly imho) try "better gingerbread theme for 2.1". just make sure you delete settings.apk and motocardock.apk in the skin update zip.
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btw: if you want a gingerbread-look on telus lite (as the default skin and fonts are ugly imho) try "better gingerbread theme for 2.1". just make sure you delete settings.apk and motocardock.apk in the skin update zip.
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Thanks, hey, as a matter of fact, let me try this on my stock 2.1 ROM.
A bit update on my 2.1 stock, when downloading big files over 100MB via browser and saving to SDCard, my phone will eventually be in the 'sleep of death' mode where it sleep and will never turn on again - unless I remove and reinsert the battery of course. Not sure what's causing this.
Update : It was my MicroSD card which been causing this. It's corrupted somehow or rather ...
Another issue is that when I record videos and battery is low, during the end of recording, the phone will hang. Tried this several times when the battery is low (about 15% charge left), and confirmed that is the issue - why? possible cause maybe not enough power to process / save these videos? Snapping pictures works ok. On some devices (especially Samsungs), camera and video function will be denied access when battery is low. I guess this could be the issue unless anyone else have not run into this problem before?
hmm now i really want to go back to eclair, cm7 is to big for the milestone
Indeed, Telus Lite 5.2 is the way to go. Very good stability and speed.
Darn... I've just flashed Telus 5.2 last Sunday and it's TRUE that this is the fastest ROM available for the Milestone!
I just can't believe the speed that I'm getting. I feel that I can outbeat a Tegra even! Hahahaha..
The phone (compared to stock 2.1) is also cooler when tethering. I used to get up around 46c - 57c, with the Telus I'm getting like 34c - 47c with wifi tether on.
In terms of battery life. After 13hrs 10minutes, my battery went down from 100% to 50%. Edge was turned on all the time. 15minutes of Wifi tether with HSDPA on. 30minutes of fb and websurfing. 15 minutes on Papago GPS. Some SMS and whatsapp plus yahoo messenger runnin all the time as services. Not bad.
Highly recommended for Eclair users!
AFAIK though, nobody has been able to get app2ext working in Telus Lite.
People have gotten app2ext work with stock eclair though. (1 of these days, I plan to go back to rooted, OC'd, GOT sbf eclair. I assume that app2ext will work as GOT is heavily based on the stock eclair sbf.)
I assume that app2ext will work as GOT is heavily based on the stock eclair sbf.
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GOT Eclair is Stock Eclair, it is a Leak of the official Firmaware. only change is the vulnerable recovery afaik.
rest of GOT specific modifications are applied through OR! was one of the best Eclair FW's i tried (for the first time my alarm and geolocation service were working ; )
Darn... I've just flashed Telus 5.2 last Sunday and it's TRUE that this is the fastest ROM available for the Milestone!
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yeah i tried Eclair too again, rly a difference in speed, but some features brought me back to CM6.
imo there are good reasons to go back and stay at eclair, but there are also good reasons to stay on froyo tbh.
+speed speed speed
+multitasking
+battery life
-no flash
-old google apps some can't be updated (gmail, youtube)
-no "2 finger Map Rotation Maps"

Rom install help.

I am super new to all of this and not exactly sure how to install a rom that isnt from ROMmanager...
I have downloaded this rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717377 ) because I am tired of having to charge my phone twice a day, and I don't really need any of the super extra cool things that my current rom (Steel Droid) comes with. I've tried CM7 many times but the battery life is just ridiculous, not to mention it over-heats my phone all the time.
My phone is mostly stock, except for being rooted, here are the details.
It's a CDMA Droid
Current Version : 2.2.1
Kernel : 2.6.32.9_RZ [email protected] #37
Build : Steel Droid 3.3.32 FRG83G
Just looking to install this ROM, thanks for any help, and/or if you find any rom this is Eclair and still fast as / battery magical as this one. Thanks in advance
That rom is not for the Droid. Its for the milestone.
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Well...That's disappointing.... Do you know of any ROMs that are virtually stock, minus the un-needed items that just slow it down and reduce battery life? I've been looking everywhere. None of the ROMs on ROMmanager have enough battery life for me, and i would prefer to go back to 2.1 if possible. Thank you, though.
Well, I am not sure if you'll find one other than stock. Milestone had 2 good ones, Telus lite and eclairmod. I don't know of a good one for the Droid. Will let you know if I get hold of one.
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How exactly is your battery life for you Droid? I have the CDMA version as well.
I can get 16 hours with moderate use pretty easy, and I'm overclocked to 1Ghz. I have no idea why you'd want to go back to 2.1 or 2.2, considering the first GB ROM I used SIGNIFICANTLY increased performance and battery life for my phone.
If you'd like to give what I'm running a shot:
However, Simply Stunning isn't very stock at all, its a very customizable ROM with a ton of features.
Get SS 5.4 and change the CPU to 1Ghz (less, if you want even greater battery life), and interactive Governor, also Automatic brightness is always set.
JIT, and compache are enabled.
If you want to try Peter Alfonso's take on an "official" GB release for the Droid, he made GPA16, which is basically the stock ROM with Gingerbread (and root of course).
There final option you have is to get a App like Titanium Backup and remove all the bloatware that you don't want installed.
Sorry for the long response time. I have been messing around with a lot of different ROMs and it seems as if the version of Steel Droid I have now, has a significantly difference in signal as the others...The Steel Droid rom is on average 1-2 bars lower on signal than what I have currently been running the past couple days (second to last update of CM7)
As for your help i really appreciate it, but i do not understand about 75% of it, i am still a "noob" as you would say, and i'm still learning.
Mod Version : CyanogenMod-7.0.3.-Droid
Build : GRI40
Mem Avail (avg) : 60mb
Kernel : 2.6.32.9.-cm-stk [email protected] #1
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