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[Q] Gumtree Scammers [UK]

So I tend to list my old phones on Gumtree, due to eBay's crazy fees. With eBay and Paypal, you sell a phone for £400 and give them £40 of it! Kinda crazy really.
Anyway, everytime I list an item on Gumtree (even through I state I wont ship internationally) I get e-mails people telling me they will pay me X+£100 via Paypal.
Of course I always either ignore or reply telling them I wont ship outside of the UK at which point they don't reply.
What I'm curious about is, how do they work the scam? Paypal is generally quite safe isn't it? Do they claim after two week's they haven't received the item? Does the money just never get to Paypal and they try and talk you in to sending it before it's there?
I'm half tempted to ask one of them to pay the money, me with no intention of sending the phone anywhere, just to see what happens...

http://reviews.ebay.com/PAYPAL-BUYER-SCAM-EXTREMELY-IMPORTANT-INFORMATION_W0QQugidZ10000000000114286
Basically unless you have proof that you have sent, and that they have signed for an item, PayPal will refund the money.
a specific example

So from the example, even if you have proof that the package was delivered, Paypal are likely to give the money back?
I wonder what happens if I ask the scammers to transfer direct into my bank account?

That's made me a little nervous now. I've just sold my DHD on eBay, the guy has paid with Paypal right away.
What are the safest steps for me next? I simply post it via recorded delivery and submit the tracking number to eBay somewhere?

AndyCr15 said:
That's made me a little nervous now. I've just sold my DHD on eBay, the guy has paid with Paypal right away.
What are the safest steps for me next? I simply post it via recorded delivery and submit the tracking number to eBay somewhere?
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and on paypal too

Thinking about it, I should probably do it special delivery, because that is insured. So if he claims its damaged or something, I can go back to Royal Mail?
Now... the other thing, the guy is only 7 miles away, I'd prefer to drop it over to him. If I get him to sign a 'receipt' do you think Paypal would accept it? I guess I'm actually safer posting it now, he's paid for postage, so he could claim I made it up, where's my postage info...

AndyCr15 said:
I'm half tempted to ask one of them to pay the money, me with no intention of sending the phone anywhere, just to see what happens...
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I replied to a spam scam once, I gave him the crime stoppers number as my mobile number. Idiot didn't notice what is was, just asked for my personal number. At that point I ignored.
AndyCr15 said:
Thinking about it, I should probably do it special delivery, because that is insured. So if he claims its damaged or something, I can go back to Royal Mail?
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So long as you keep the receipt for postage, and make a note of the time and date, where you posted it etc, the Post Office will refund up to £30 (I think that's the amount anyway) for missing items, after they have investigated. Anything more expensive, and I would suggest you send it with insurance anyway.

Are you guys serious??????
just search "gumtree scams paypal moneysavingexpert" on google (sorry can't post links)
That's why I stopped using gumtree overall. It is nothing but a scam den! Now I use other safer sites like movethat.com or bonsoni.com

Not if you're careful. I've not been scammed once using Gumtree and I've made more money from each sale as I'm not giving eBay and Paypal 12% of my sale. You could say that in itself is the biggest scam...
I do still use eBay, cause we don't really have any other auction alternatives do we?

Yes if you are smart then you should be ok (although my smart cousin lost his deposit money for a flat) . But the problem is Internet is available to everyone, even to the granny who never used a comp before.
usually these kind of naive people are becoming a victim. Just search gumtree fraud or gumtree scam on google news search thousands on result come up! Apparently police stopped taking this crime reports as they are too many of them.
You are not giving that 12% to ebay and paypal but do remember that actually you are doing them a favour by using gumtree, which is own by ebay and paypal.
That's what happened when capitalism reach at its pick and consumers don't have much choice.
Once again I prefer to use other smaller and safer sites then any of the above named site.

AndyCr15 said:
I do still use eBay, cause we don't really have any other auction alternatives do we?
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eBid.net is an alternative to Ebay.
The alternative I used for Gumtree.com is OzAdz.com. I love their Personals section lol.

Mercedes325 said:
eBid.net is an alternative to Ebay.
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I don't think it's a viable alternative though. For example, there's 1 Nexus S for sale on eBid. If I'm looking for a phone, why would I go to eBid. If I'm selling, why would I start an auction on eBid, next to no-one see's it and my item sells at a crazy low price

AndyCr15 said:
I don't think it's a viable alternative though. For example, there's 1 Nexus S for sale on eBid. If I'm looking for a phone, why would I go to eBid. If I'm selling, why would I start an auction on eBid, next to no-one see's it and my item sells at a crazy low price
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One reason to use smaller websites like ebid is because less people will bid, so you may pick up a bargain.

Mercedes325 said:
One reason to use smaller websites like ebid is because less people will bid, so you may pick up a bargain.
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That's exactly what I'm saying, thanks. Very bad for sellers, not a viable option.

Got screwed by "bigpetesales" on ebay

So I had about $200 to spend on a cell and wanted something with a key bored.
Long story short, I won a my touch 3g slide on ebay for $144.50 from "bigpetesales" and I paid on the 16 of April. Well its not May 11 and still nothing.
I tried to contact him threw ebay 2 weeks ago to see if he had a tracking number for me and didnt hear anything back which I thought was weired since every other time I asked him a question he would respond asap. Any ways I filed a clam with paypal but fell Im not gonna get money back and in the end, get the shaft.
Just wanted to let you peeps know of my transaction with "bigpetesales" from ebay and give a warning to the community.

just try dispute on paypal =)...all will be solve

mistamikel said:
So I had about $200 to spend on a cell and wanted something with a key bored.
Long story short, I won a my touch 3g slide on ebay for $144.50 from "bigpetesales" and I paid on the 16 of April. Well its not May 11 and still nothing.
I tried to contact him threw ebay 2 weeks ago to see if he had a tracking number for me and didnt hear anything back which I thought was weired since every other time I asked him a question he would respond asap. Any ways I filed a clam with paypal but fell Im not gonna get money back and in the end, get the shaft.
Just wanted to let you peeps know of my transaction with "bigpetesales" from ebay and give a warning to the community.
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is he/she on this forum?

I'd say **** on their feedback, and dispute on PayPal and eBay.

charlieb620 said:
is he/she on this forum?
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Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.

mistamikel said:
Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.
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I should think it is up to the seller to prove it wasn't delivered. Your dispute should work.
On a side note, T-Mobile is offering these for free with 2 year activation, through 12 May:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...zygt*VAygtzlw*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf

mistamikel said:
Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.
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Don't worry. If he doesn't prove the tracking is moving, paypal will be in your favor.
He sold stuff before but wasn't active in ebay for couple months now. Maybe his account got hacked.
Either way, you're protected by eBay buyer protection and paypal too.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=bigpetesales&ftab=AllFeedback

Is it just me or does this thread have nothing to do with the XDA Marketplace?
eBay can solve all of your problems, they always have for me. They side with the buyer 99% of the time unless it's obvious otherwise.

chambo622 said:
Is it just me or does this thread have nothing to do with the XDA Marketplace?
eBay can solve all of your problems, they always have for me. They side with the buyer 99% of the time unless it's obvious otherwise.
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It is a cell phone transaction and since many of us use eBay and market for sales/trade, its nice to have a heads up on him. I appreciate the info.
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stevedebi said:
I should think it is up to the seller to prove it wasn't delivered. Your dispute should work.
On a side note, T-Mobile is offering these for free with 2 year activation, through 12 May:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...zygt*VAygtzlw*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf
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I am in Canada and need an AWS cell to use on the Wind network, but thanks for the tip any ways.
Also I know that this has nothing to do with a transaction on xda but as stated I just wanted to give a heads up in case some one from here was shopping on ebay and came across that seller.
As for paypal, I could win but get nothing if he withdrew his funds out of his account, this is what I was told by paypal yesterday when I called them.

if you win, paypal will get all money for you.....
if user don't have money in him account, we will have a negative money on him account...and paypal will persue him to revenge xD loool

Sooo I got an update from ebay/paypal, the seller updated the tracking info.... "usps #1111111111111111111"
Yup I think I got screwed.

mistamikel said:
Sooo I got an update from ebay/paypal, the seller updated the tracking info.... "usps #1111111111111111111"
Yup I think I got screwed.
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Wow, that's pretty a messed up/ballsy thing to do. Needless to say if you file a claim that you'll get your money back with ease simply based on that.

hazard666 said:
Wow, that's pretty a messed up/ballsy thing to do. Needless to say if you file a claim that you'll get your money back with ease simply based on that.
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He didn't even try to fake it.
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Nope, all 1's. It is what it is. I just hope I get my money back.

If a paypal rep looks at it, they would probably look at the tracking # and say something. Wish you the best of luck on that one.

Surprised. A hundred and something positives, no neg feedback on that user. That sucks to get shafted like that.
Good luck on getting it back from Paypal, though it should be a pretty easy claim.

Thanks guys. I dont know whats gonna happen as I was told by a person from paypal that I can win the claim but there could be no funds in the sellers account, so I would get nothing back.

I just had a paypal dispute close a little while ago for $250. seller took out all the money in his account, won the case, pay pal put his account into the negative and gave me my money back asap. told me it was there problem not mine. so its worth a shot... and this was a pay pal dispute that was from a forum not a eBay purchase which they are more willing to help with because of image. good luck

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I just had a paypal dispute close a little while ago for $250. seller took out all the money in his account, won the case, pay pal put his account into the negative and gave me my money back asap. told me it was there problem not mine. so its worth a shot... and this was a pay pal dispute that was from a forum not a eBay purchase which they are more willing to help with because of image. good luck
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If the seller don't got a credit card or bank account linked, there's no funds to take from. . Best of luck on getting your money back OP.

Another reason why PayPal SUCKS

So here is my absolute HORROR STORY of dealing with PayPal.
I sold a phone on eBay (an Evo with a clean ESN and rooted w/ICS) and the seller emails me a few days later saying the phone can't be activated and they were on the phone with sprint for 3 hours and the "other Evo they bought was able to be activated (wtf? why would they buy two for the same account??)" so I asked them for the ESN number to double check... they give me the serial number. REALLY? You've been on the phone with Sprint for "3 hours" but don't know the damn ESN number??? The person is obviously a LIAR. I eventually get them to give me the ESN (which sprint says they can activate and say they haven't had anyone trying to activate the ESN... proving they are a liar). I ask why they didn't just go to the store since I looked up their address and they had one close by. They ignore the question and say they are going to file a report against me. I say go ahead, thinking paypal will listen to my evidence.... NOPE!!!!!
PayPal completely IGNORES the evidence and after freaking WEEKS they give her the money back!!! I have NO PHONE, NO TRACKING NUMBER, and NO MONEY!!!
WTF!!!
Oh and get this.. "the phone can't be activated because it has ICS...". I literally screamed in anger when I read this. I've activated phones rooted with ICS a million times, and it was in the damn description that it had ICS.
I'm calling PayPal tomorrow and telling them to give me the money, or give me a tracking number, or I'm filing a damn police report.

I used to take up for Paypal when others would report similar issues; but, when it happened to me, I finally understood just how merciless Paypal can be.
I had an old iTunes account floating out there that I forgot to cancel, and also forgot to pull my info from the account. It was totally my fault for leaving the stuff out there like that, I don't deny it, but what happened next forever changed my view of Paypal.
Somehow, someone got ahold of this account, and purchased two iTunes gift cards in the amount of $50 each. As soon as these hit my bank, I contacted Paypal, and explained that I had no idea what was going on. Their reply was that they were freezing my account, and that I needed to contact Apple and try and find out what was going on.
While I was going 'round and 'round with Apple, three more charges went through on my "frozen" account with Paypal. Meanwhile, Paypal support swore up and down that there was no way that someone could use a frozen account.
Finally, Apple found the old account, closed it, and refunded all of the purchases. Paypal never really lifted a finger to help me.

derekwilkinson said:
So here is my absolute HORROR STORY of dealing with PayPal.
I sold a phone on eBay (an Evo with a clean ESN and rooted w/ICS) and the seller emails me a few days later saying the phone can't be activated and they were on the phone with sprint for 3 hours and the "other Evo they bought was able to be activated (wtf? why would they buy two for the same account??)" so I asked them for the ESN number to double check... they give me the serial number. REALLY? You've been on the phone with Sprint for "3 hours" but don't know the damn ESN number??? The person is obviously a LIAR. I eventually get them to give me the ESN (which sprint says they can activate and say they haven't had anyone trying to activate the ESN... proving they are a liar). I ask why they didn't just go to the store since I looked up their address and they had one close by. They ignore the question and say they are going to file a report against me. I say go ahead, thinking paypal will listen to my evidence.... NOPE!!!!!
PayPal completely IGNORES the evidence and after freaking WEEKS they give her the money back!!! I have NO PHONE, NO TRACKING NUMBER, and NO MONEY!!!
WTF!!!
Oh and get this.. "the phone can't be activated because it has ICS...". I literally screamed in anger when I read this. I've activated phones rooted with ICS a million times, and it was in the damn description that it had ICS.
I'm calling PayPal tomorrow and telling them to give me the money, or give me a tracking number, or I'm filing a damn police report.
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I think you are not the only one. This is the leaking of the rule and the buyers do like to take advantages on it...

still the paypal the safest website for internet commerical

i90 said:
still the paypal the safest website for internet commerical
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yeah!

Paypal is a good example of a company that has become too big to care. I've had dozens of problems with them, from bugs in their website, to bs big company politics. Unfortunately, in the end, where else are you gonna go?

Pay pal was a great site. You could look into Amazon Payments.

That sucks man PayPal should at least guarantee that the item gets returned to seller then refund the money. Best of luck
Sent From Galaxy Bigger Than Yours.

I had a paypal account suspended years ago when my sister in law, with the same name as me, screwed someone over on ebay. Same name, same TOWN, so they told me they considered it the same person.
I literally had to convince her to get a scan of her ID and mine to sort it, and it took weeks after the info was sent in.
Since then, I still use it, but I attach it to an account that I ONLY use for paypal and I never leave money in there for longer than I need to for a purchase.

In my experience paypal is all about supporting customers and just pushing aside sellers, which is proven by your case, they just always assume that the seller is some dodgy no code crook when often its the other way round

Yeah, horrible situation. How they can simply refund the purchaser's money without making sure that the seller gets the original item back is beyond ridiculous. Obviously it would take some capital but this would be a great time for someone else to step in and create a secure site.
Would it be possible to implement a system that acts as escrow, holding the buyer's funds electronically until the transaction is complete and only refunding the cost if the original item is first returned to the seller in case of dissatisfaction?

The escow style idea should be the way that it is. I have had to return an item bought via paypal and I was told in order for the seller to get the money back I needed to show proof of shipping with tracking. I had no problem with this, of course. I do know that the money was not pulled from me until I provided this.
I think paypal plays on a case by case basis for some crazy reason, because the stories that you read/hear about often have no real similarities.

I'm glad my dealings with PayPal have been limited to using them as an intermediary for credit card transactions with sketchy sellers (mostly eBay). I'm not giving anyone direct access to my bank account, especially with stories like these... jeeze.

I had many of good and bad experiences with paypal. They've rolled on me and gave my money back to a buyer. Luckily, I got the sold item back.
I had my identity stolen using paypal and they had my back like no other. It overdrew the associated bank acount by 2000 dollars, and not only was it all reimbursed, but they covered my overdraft fees and gave me 200 dollars for the inconvience. I also got the bank to waive the same overdraft fees and came out another 150 dollars ahead.
The cookie crumbles both ways.
Me and paypal are good.
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Another reason:
Some weird buseniss took some money from account. So I asked paypal to but it back, they did. And then I had to do security check to see of my account was hacked. I had to sent a letter from my bank with adress etc. But I do everything only, so they say to send bill for electricity, but I dont get no bills, I live with my parents. I used paypal 2 years ago for the last time, I was a happy user, but know there are still 50 freaking euros I cant, get back
Galaxy Gio
CM7.2 by phiexz

wow such horrible stories! seems like sometimes we really feel powerless against these big companies right ?

Yeah ik bro. There were multiple times when paypal would just refund the buyer's money and I would end up getting scammed even though the phones/tablets I was selling were perfectly functional. I soon realized after this happened to me twice that paypal is just a plain scam and I stopped selling stuff on ebay.

derekwilkinson said:
So here is my absolute HORROR STORY of dealing with PayPal.
I sold a phone on eBay (an Evo with a clean ESN and rooted w/ICS) and the seller emails me a few days later saying the phone can't be activated and they were on the phone with sprint for 3 hours and the "other Evo they bought was able to be activated (wtf? why would they buy two for the same account??)" so I asked them for the ESN number to double check... they give me the serial number. REALLY? You've been on the phone with Sprint for "3 hours" but don't know the damn ESN number??? The person is obviously a LIAR. I eventually get them to give me the ESN (which sprint says they can activate and say they haven't had anyone trying to activate the ESN... proving they are a liar). I ask why they didn't just go to the store since I looked up their address and they had one close by. They ignore the question and say they are going to file a report against me. I say go ahead, thinking paypal will listen to my evidence.... NOPE!!!!!
PayPal completely IGNORES the evidence and after freaking WEEKS they give her the money back!!! I have NO PHONE, NO TRACKING NUMBER, and NO MONEY!!!
WTF!!!
Oh and get this.. "the phone can't be activated because it has ICS...". I literally screamed in anger when I read this. I've activated phones rooted with ICS a million times, and it was in the damn description that it had ICS.
I'm calling PayPal tomorrow and telling them to give me the money, or give me a tracking number, or I'm filing a damn police report.
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Another example of corruption....
Very sorry for you sir
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Issues with fastcardtech

Hi to all,
I want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and I was really satisfy about service so I decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site I saw that two models are available but I was interested only in the completely white one so I ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day I release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6USD due to account limitation) on next order that I'll never do cause It's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6USD) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so I asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.S. attacched the chat transcript for all the detail

Sorry for what happened
i faced the same problem they listed a phone with high specification at a high price yet it was just specifications hacked in kernel the phone was not of quality as it was priced i bought it at USD 295 yet other phones of exact spec without hacking kernels were at USD 165 so if you are buying online its better you buy from sites with payments protections like escrow of aliexpress as the product i bought there was real coz it had to wait for my confirmation the payments to be made which force the sellers to be sure of what they are doing.
In fact the item was shipped with very low prices i never requested for which led me to be over taxed as the tax authority had to do it by themselves.

Do NOT FALL VICTIM
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!

i have read and others have complains for same problems (just google it )
i was about to buy from them but it think i will consider it twice
the posthumous fame[/B] should be re-considered by all Internet Shops

I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.

10 post noobs everywhere!

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rubbering said:
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!
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Here's one I busted on aPad.tv.com forum; regarding Hyundai T7 Exynos 4 quad-core processor Tablet PC:
me: I ordered 1 a week ago. It was supposed to have been in stock, but when I checked on the status it was still unshipped. I was beginning to wonder if the T7 even existed; so what aPadTVadmin said about them being in stock, makes since now. I guess most of these online stores get all their stuff drop-shipped, am I assuming correct?
aPadTVadmin: I spoke to DP a couple of days ago regarding the T7 for another reason and all T7 units have been shipped out. This was Thursday. If you ordered 1 week ago it would have shipped out nearly same day. I witnessed with my own eyes a large stock of T7 Hyundais being processed for shipping out last time I visited there.
Please give me your order number so I can validate it and check with them for you.
me: BUNCH OF SCAM ARTISTS! I contacted the manufacturer today and found out that they don't even start shipping them until March 7th, 2013. SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANYONE EVEN HAS T7'S YET, EXCEPT FOR A FEW ENGINEERING SAMPLES THAT WENT OUT. SO MUCH FOR SEEING THEM WITH YOUR OWN EYES... MORE LIKE LYING OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH.
GadgetGreats.com, DealsPrime.com aPadtv; ALL ONE OF THE SAME; SCAMMERS! Also AD PANDAWILL.COM TO THE LIST OF SCAMMERS, INCLUDING EVERBUYING.COM
ALWAYS PAY W/PAYPAL, IN 7 DAYS IF THEY HAVEN'T UPLOADED A TRACEABLE TRACKING #, PAYPAL PUTS A HOLD ON THE PAYMENT,
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icestage said:
hi to all,
i want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and i was really satisfy about service so i decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site i saw that two models are available but i was interested only in the completely white one so i ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day i release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6usd due to account limitation) on next order that i'll never do cause it's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6usd) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so i asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.s. Attacched the chat transcript for all the detail
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this guy who wrote this is also part of the scam; he want's you think that the company actually ships a good product, while the truth is, what you'll get is an imitation of the product you order, if at all that; these guys are all in cahoots, and they're on every forum & youtube video out there. They are good at what they do & once they ship the inferior product, if you return it, you lost all your money, point blank.

aliexpress.com is the best site to buy tablets/phones from china. they have buyer protection, and the money isn't released from your account till you confirm the device is received and working.

Scam
I ran into the FCT trap too. Should have done some more research beforehand .
I ordered an HDC Note 3 clone from them and paid through Paypal. They provided a Singapore shipping number and the next day told me the phone is out of stock and was not shipped. Meaning a fake shipping number was provided. The same time the same phone is still listed on their website as "in stock" and questions of potential customers are answered.
They told me to choose an alternative phone which I did with another HDC N9002. 35$ more expensive which difference I paid. They did not ship, after a number of reminders they however provided again the same (!) fake shipping number as before. So the item was never ever intended to be shipped. They play for time and money to get over the 45 days to launch a Paypal dispute. So be careful.
Currently a dispute for full refund is ongoing.
Stay away from these scammers!

SCAM artists
I'm also getting countless fake shipping numbers regarding broken tablet that I actually received from them.
Beware of FCT!
They are always delaying with shipping (some items they never ship). Their policy is to provide a bit lower prices than the others at first sight and then add extra fees for nothing and eventually ship the item you ordered when it is already outdated.
Fake shipping numbers are their method of delay.

FCT
I recently ordered from FCT and of course before reading all the forums of countless individuals who have been scammed or dooped by these guys.
Anyway after 2 weeks from placing my order I received a tracking number followed by another tracking number 2 days later (weird), then a week later it was scanned into the U.S, 2 or so more days it actually arrived at my door!!! (bing bong)
I was pretty stoked however, once I opened my package (HDC GT N9000 Note3) one thing was missing ...No stylus!! so after numerous calls to these guys via Skype (preferred and only method to contact them) I finally speak to a man who tells me that if I buy another phone they would include the stylus plus a gift free of charge....wait the phone was advertised to include this?? blah blah something shipping he began to ramble on about.... all n all pointless
I'm now a month into having my phone which appears to be pretty effin exact to the Note3 however yesterday my phone just disconnected from my network and will not re-connect. I cannot reach a soul at this place leaving me with a fancy mini internet tab/paperweight/possibly shooting target..
Basically they were great until I gave them my money and the phone is awesome however customer service is a huge key to running any successful business and this is something they LACK.....
GOOD LUCK!

how do you use ems tracking
beefgalore said:
I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.
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i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?

MrCompleteownage said:
i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?
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i actually order a week ago and in Monday they send me a tracking number that says no information also... starting to suspect a bit weird 3 days and no tracking....
Fingers crossed..........
Regards FRZ

return, keep, or cancel?

When you accept shipment you have 14 days to decide if you love the device, or make a return. Will there be restocking fees? Looking at Samsung's FAQ it appears the shipping back would be free...
Some of us feel neglected by Samsung and their "customer service"... question is, will you vote with your wallet or accept the failed shipping dates/service?
I received my phone and am testing it now . If I don't ABSOLUTELY love the One Thousand Dollar phone, I will send it back.
Is anyone canceling their order with no intent to purchase from another source? Sammy didn't keep their word will you refuse to purchase?
edit: I was frustrated, I apologize. message toned down

purchasedPhone said:
If you accept shipment you have 14 days to decide if you love the device. Will there be restocking fees? Looking at Samsungs FAQ it appears at least the shipping back for a return would be free...
Many of us have been abused and ignored by Samsung and their "customer service"... question is, will you vote with your wallet or let the company figuratively **** on you?
I plan to accept shipment and test the device for 7 days. If I don't ABSOLUTELY love the One Thousand Dollar phone, I will send it back.
Is anyone canceling thier order with no intent to purchase from another source? Sammy gave us the middle finger who can give it back?
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No idea what you are taking but please send me some, I also need to escape this world.
What on earth on you on about?
Ryland

haha, okay. I'll explain... I was speaking as an August order, many of us feel we got skipped or overlooked, because orders made after us were handled before ours.
Here is a great example, my device finally showed up today, and there was no sdcard in the box. Whenever the sdcard does ship I'll probably not get a 256 like the early shipments (that my phone should of been amoung). It could take two weeks to get my card while others who ordered after me already have the complete package, and a 256 card instead of a 128! This matters to me because I don't have a spare sdcard laying around and will actually use the one provided for the phone

Drama.. Can't see how your "answer" can justify what you said about them. Still have not received mine.. and.. I'm fine. They told me when it expected to ship. And...you can only speak for you...

Well I did participate in a now 160+ page thread and many others seemed upset. Anyway, what I know is that when I ordered they gave me a date, and failed to meet it. Customers are usually held responsible it would be nice if the manufacture was to.
When did you place your order? unlocked or carrier?

purchasedPhone said:
Well I did participate in a now 160+ page thread and many others seemed upset. Anyway, what I know is that when I ordered they gave me a date, and failed to meet it. Customers are usually held responsible it would be nice if the manufacture was to.
When did you place your order? unlocked or carrier?
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Samsung was giving out 256 cards? Guess 128 is a carrier promo?

No one knows why some customers received 256 cards but you can find mutiple posts about it (and photos) in these forums. @Zeblade yes perhaps dramatic, at least I managed not to cancel my orders like so many people!

double post, sorry everyone!