I don't know why, but Opera mobile always tries to zoom any page (including mobile pages, like m.youtube.com or x.facebook.com) too much meaning that in all these pages I can scroll left and right- even in landscape. It looks quite ridiculous, and is very annoying. The text is wrapped correctly, but page elements like buttons are put too wide.
Is there a solution for this, or just opera mobile badly programmed?
Here is a video showing the problem on m.youtube.com. Any other browser fits the whole page to the screen..
Video HERE
Goto options and modify zoom settings?
Even on lowest zoom settings (60%) the page is still wider than the screen- yet the letters are so small they are almost impossible to read.
Am I the only one with this problem, or other ppl just don't care? It's very annoying on websites like google.com/reader/i , or any mobile website. Opera 9.7 shows everything correctly, but it's slower than (already slow) opera 10.
No, you're not the only one. I have the same problem. I use opera mini and in settings I have mobile view on. It's not a nice view with mobile view, but it solves the problem you mention.
i'm experiencing this problem too, but it's a big problem for me.
I think Opera Mobile layout rendering causes it.
nah, you're not the only one. opera 10 isn't really good with rendering. mem-management is lacking as well.
opera mini 5.1 is much better at it, although it happens as well with some pages. it's my default browser, combined with 9.7 as backup (slow, but shows most pages correct) i'm quite happy.
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Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
I use both.. yes mini is faster, but lacks a lot of the funcionality of opera mobile.
omarnone said:
Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
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Yes, Stock Diamond Opera is slow and Mini is much faster (I used it as my primary browser on the Touch Dual) but, as previously indicated, has fewer features. I can get over that for alot of browsing but the bigger problem to me is that it is really hard to use Opera Mini's menus on the Diamond as they are so small on the VGA screen (and I chose the option for larger fonts - still too small.)
Yeah, I agree, I used to use Opera Mini on my Hermes device and it was very quick at page rendering, zoom in/out (re-draws) etc. To be honest, it actually suited my needs in terms of functionally. I also tried Opera Mobile on the Hermes and it is just as slow as on my Diamond.
I've not tried Mini on my Diamond (I don't do much web browsing) but would like to try it out.
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Yes, Stock Diamond Opera is slow and Mini is much faster (I used it as my primary browser on the Touch Dual) but, as previously indicated, has fewer features. I can get over that for alot of browsing but the bigger problem to me is that it is really hard to use Opera Mini's menus on the Diamond as they are so small on the VGA screen (and I chose the option for larger fonts - still too small.)
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sorry for waking up the thread; but have you tried Jblend 3.3.5 java? I think the font is OK on medium with that one.
Opera vs IE
I used Opera Mobile exclusively on my Q9H and much preferred it to IE. However, on my Diamond (US unlocked GSM) I do not like the minimal settings control options available for display. That must be an HTC overlay thing linked to the touch. I cannot get the windows in Opera to render in an easily useable format. With IE all the usual flexibility is there and I get excellent "fit to screen" displays in either landscape or portrait (thanks to Gravitator 2)... and it's not too slow.
I know I can zoom with the touch in Opera, but I am having to constantly fiddle with it to get usable displays. Am I missing something obvious? Maybe I should download a stand alone Opera Mobile and try that?
Meanwhile, I await the work on modding TF3D so I can change the link on the slider page to IE.
yea i really do agree with you, considering the power of the device there is no stable + quick way to browse the internet and it really annoys me
This is a bad comparison i know, but i've got an ipod touch and their safari browser is stable + smooth, which is how ours should be.
Its sad to say that even PIE or PIE Plus aren't even as smooth. Maybe opera will get their act together and make it quicker after all they have some nice hardware to code it around!
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Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
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Are we talking about Opera 9.5 (beta): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435351&highlight=opera&page=3. It is significantly faster than the one came with the original stock.
There are so many Opera versions out there...
The one I have been using 15316. Before that I was using some other version, I can't remember which.
Anyway, I am tired of this flipping the screen upside down everytime I exit it (in landscape).
Which is the best version to use on a Tilt?
SaltyDawg said:
There are so many Opera versions out there...
The one I have been using 15316. Before that I was using some other version, I can't remember which.
Anyway, I am tired of this flipping the screen upside down everytime I exit it (in landscape).
Which is the best version to use on a Tilt?
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I was using Opera 9.5 beta 2, and hated the whole widget mess that they created, so I rolled back to beta 1. So far no complaints.
TelloMan said:
I was using Opera 9.5 beta 2, and hated the whole widget mess that they created, so I rolled back to beta 1. So far no complaints.
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Where can I get it? What is the build number?
Just a tip, build 15233 ripped from the Omnia worked very well in the short time I used it. There was no screen flipping problem, and it was very stable. It also supported zooming by sliding your finger on the side of the screen. I think the real reason I stopped using it was there was some kind of text reflow issue when you zoomed it though. It has no widgets, although it installs a shortcut to the non-existent widgets, so you need to delete it.
However, I currently use NFSFan's build 15316, which I like due to its 10 tab support and speed. However, as a trade off, it suffers from the screen flipping problem if you minimize it or touch the taskbar while using it. And I definitely agree with TelloMan about the widgets, they just waste space and annoy me. Try to keep looking around XDA, especially in Development and Hacking (where I found many opera builds).
Dave
Yeah, NSFan's 15316 is the one I'm using now. The screen flipping is driving me crazy.
It's hard to believe there isn't one decent browser for Windows Mobile. Anyone know what's going on with that Firefox Mobile?
you're referring to "Minimo" by Mozilla. I haven't seen or heard much lately from them. There's some opera builds are fairly close to perfection depending on what irritates you the least amount. Too bad none of them has flash working perfectly yet. If I had to choose 2 browsers for WM, it would be netfront and opera mobile
well... call me heretic, but imho for casual browsing and forums the best one is opera mini and if I need to use my bank's web page or anything more complicated iexplorer is reliable enough. additionally, I have skyfire installed on my memcard just to make sure that I can browse whatever I want.
the answer? opera mini and skyfire in my opinion. I am tired of o.mobile bugs and new builds every few days/weeks.
Actually, I think he is referring to Fennec, not minimo. Minimo was horrible and requires very high specs, while Fennec, which is still in alpha/early beta, is very unstable yet very promising. It will be quite a while before it will be really usable. I would just stick to opera mobile for now. Skyfire works well, but isn't 100% stable. Opera mini is fast, but not full featured.
As I said, Fennec is very promising, but it is extremely unstable and VGA only for now.
Dave
bronx said:
well... call me heretic, but imho for casual browsing and forums the best one is opera mini and if I need to use my bank's web page or anything more complicated iexplorer is reliable enough. additionally, I have skyfire installed on my memcard just to make sure that I can browse whatever I want.
the answer? opera mini and skyfire in my opinion. I am tired of o.mobile bugs and new builds every few days/weeks.
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I agree about Mini i use it for pretty much everything then for sensitive info use Mobile.
"I like fast pages and come from SP stock so used to the Mini approach"
I used to get annoyed by the text flipping, but Manila2D always corrects the screen back to portrait when you hit the homescreen. I've been using that as my bandaid.
Build 15233 is yummy
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Just a tip, build 15233 ripped from the Omnia worked very well in the short time I used it. There was no screen flipping problem, and it was very stable. It also supported zooming by sliding your finger on the side of the screen.
<snippy snip snip>
Dave
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Like Dave was, I just got build 15233 running per the instructions at
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blog/9/tutorial-everything-you-need-know-about-flash-lite-3-and-playing-back-flash-web-videos
and it is by far the best browser experience I've had on my Tilt yet. Flash even worked on http://www.spezzo.com.
It isn't very fast, but compared to IE and the first Minimo, this actually WORKS. I can switch from mobile versions to desktop versions, zoom and scroll, and it uses my IE favorites.
AT&T Tilt
Windows Mobile 6.1 (Build 19199.dutty's)
Thanks XDA good guys!
I downloaded Opera mobile 9.51. Whenever I exit opera, it opens Opera Widgets (sort of a menu). What the heck is that and how do I disable it. I deleted wgtman.exe from Program Files/Opera Mobile Beta but it still keep opening that widget window. Very annoying. I do not want widget. Please help.
I'd like an answer to this as well, I did a lot of searching but found nothing.
I hate Opera Widgets. I don't believe there is a way to get rid of them other than to change Opera versions. I used this custom build for a long time, and I really like it. It supports 10 tabs instead of 3, and gets pages quite quickly. Except for an annoying bug where the screen rotates 90 degrees which occurs if you tap a taskbar icon (like the sound icon), it works really well.
Dave
yea thats a bug. if you close opera using the x button or the task manager you get opera widgets and then it wont close but if u go to exit on the opera menu, you wont have that problem.
The normal builds also support 10 tabs, just change the max. number of tabs in opera:config (enter opera:config as the URL). Alas, the normal builds also still have the annoying rotation bug as well as the bug where I cannot enter umlauts on the hardware keyboard.
From my experience, I've never found an Opera build that had any tab-related setting in Opera:Config. The reason NFSFan's build is so special is because tab settings are normally hard coded into Opera, so you couldn't have more than usually 3 tabs, at least every version I've used.
Dave
I'm not sure about older versions, but the 9.5 betas currently available at http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/ certainly support 10 tabs. http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/20...-5-how-to-increase-the-maximum-number-of-tabs also has this info.
Oh, maybe that's why. The one I'm using is cooked into my ROM, and the ones I've used before it were all from other devices like the Diamond, Omina, etc.
Dave
I have encountered the annoying browser glitch with text box's. And in my search for stable browsers, I have found a few results. Aside from the awesome Opera Mobile, I have found these to work rather nicely:
Ninesky Browser:
I haven't played around with this one too much, I only really checked to make sure it didn't crash. But the layout is nice enough, not too cluttered.
Maxthon Mobile Browser:
This one was the only one so far that allowed me to utilize FimFiction.net's archive search. Opera Mobile and others would either refuse to load or crash the browser. This browser also has an interesting active gesture system, which allows you to temporarily see the result of your finger swipes. However I find this to be more of a pain, as it is hard to always get the browser to move around when it is interpreting every swipe I make. I also couldn't figure out a way to zoom in and out.
Browsers I have found to either crash or not work very well at this time are: Miren, Dolphin, Boat, Bolt, xScope, and Skyfire.
That is the scope of my search so far. If anyone knows of any other stable browsers, I would be happy to learn about them .
I'm using opera mini. Worked fine. Tried several others, with poor results. Dolphin almost made it, but the url bar does not work (can't type your own url, only coming from search or another site)
hi,
the dolphin HD or dolphin mini browser crashed? I would like use the dolphin mini, it's possible and stable?
thank you
Both had problem at the url bar, and both had some minor crashes. Doesn't look that good anyway. Opera mini still rules.
Probably any browser based or that uses the default webkit will not work.
text only browser
hi,
text only browser work on nook?
ex: market.android.com/details?id=com.spacenext.textonly
like kindle article mode.
thank you
Opera works great for me.
I finaly found a browser that can use volume keys to scroll and (so far) seems stable. It's called Galapagos browser. Doesnt compare very good to Opera otherwise, but scrolling with keys is a big help on eink screen.
xScope
I use xScope Pro ($2.99, lite version available). You can use the volume keys to scroll (remapped my side buttons on the NST), change the standard font size to be bigger and change the theme to an all black one. Only problem I've had so far is logging into reddit.com causes it to crash for whatever reason. I think it's permission related, going to poke around on the command line later.
tiborq said:
hi,
text only browser work on nook?
ex: market.android.com/details?id=com.spacenext.textonly
like kindle article mode.
thank you
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yes it works fine
I've tried several browsers but only opera mini made it, it has poor scrolling but after a while you get used to it
Sent from my NOOK STR using XDA
"Exsoul Browser" seems to be working fine.
EDIT : It does not =_=. Sorry for useless post.
sayno2quat said:
Opera works great for me.
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Opera mini, and or opera mobile. Also, they can be configured for high contrast browsing. (editing global CSS file)
I've been having the best luck with Opera Mini. Pages load very, very fast, and scrolling is remarkably responsive if you turn on NoRefresh Toggle.
I had high hopes for Dolphin Mini, but it doesn't seem very happy on the Touch.
aaronwe said:
I had high hopes for Dolphin Mini, but it doesn't seem very happy on the Touch.
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B&N (intentionally?) broke webkit on the Nook, so yeah, Dolphin won't work.
"Maxthon Mobile Browser For Android"
seems to be working more than fine + it plays Flash animation with the plugin installed.
EDIT:
Probably the best replacement for Opera Mobile there is.
osowiecki said:
"Maxthon Mobile Browser For Android"
seems to be working more than fine + it plays Flash animation with the plugin installed.
EDIT:
Probably the best replacement for Opera Mobile there is.
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But can it use a user defined CSS file, for high contrast browsing?
Nope.
In Maxthon you can use the "WAP mode" to remove all of the pages formatting thus creating a high contrast site.
You can also turn on a "negative mode" to inverse all of the colors.
This NoRefresh makes me quite happy with the achieved contrast.
Opera "New" 7.0
I tried the Opera "New". It only crashes, so I'm reluctant to upgrade Opera mini 6.something.
Update "New" to 7.0.1 also crashes on launch.
brendan10211 said:
Opera mini, and or opera mobile. Also, they can be configured for high contrast browsing. (editing global CSS file)
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I would like to know how to set up the user css. Couldn't find any mention of it for the mobile versions, only full version.
stephen.george.west said:
I tried the Opera "New". It only crashes, so I'm reluctant to upgrade Opera mini 6.something.
Update "New" to 7.0.1 also crashes on launch.
I would like to know how to set up the user css. Couldn't find any mention of it for the mobile versions, only full version.
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This thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360624&highlight=css
works for Opera Mobile 12
Hello all, I already talked about this in another thread called "ICS 4.04 disapointment" but I think that this news diserve a specific thread as people in search of a good web browser may not be interested in reading the "ICS 4.04 disapointment" thread...
I just tried Opera Mini, and now when running ICS this browser is a lot more fluid than the stock one. With the stock browser when displaying some pages with big pictures in it, it sometimes became slow. Opera Mini is absolutly fluid whatever you display with it, just as good as on an iPad !!!! Exactly what I was searching for !
The only problem is an annoying bug : when you switch to another app, if you go back to Opera all previously opened tabs are closed, just like if you were running Opera for the first time. As far as I remember, when I was tried Opera Mini with Honeycomb I didn't have this problem. So I guess this bug with ICS may be corrected in the future.
Now that I know we can have a very fluid web browsing experience on our Xoom running ICS, I really feel like I have a new device.
I also tried Opera Mobile and Dolphin but they are slower than the stock browser. Opera Mini is really the best regarding the fluidity. There is another one called "Opera Mini Next" but I couldn't see no differences between those two apps.
Note : if you have a problem where sometimes the website cannot be displayed, go to the Opera parameters and change the setting "protocol" from "socket/http" to "http". Now that this parameter has been changed on mine, I never had a problem displaying a web page.
So, if your Xoom runs ICS, please try Opera Mini and let me know what you think about it (but I guess you'll love it).
Data save upper to 85 percent by loading a webpage. It's really to help you consumption plan with 3G network for the surf by the phone.
It is more fluid, because the pictures are compressed. It's a lot easier to handle a 20kB pic than a 500kB.
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It is more fluid, because the pictures are compressed. It's a lot easier to handle a 20kB pic than a 500kB.
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Thanks for this information but it's not the only thing as some sites which contains only a few small photos are very laggy with the other browsers, but ultra-fluid with Opera (wikistrike.com for exemple).
I finally found that the reason of losing the open tabs in Opera when switching to another app was a bad parameter in my ICS.
So finally I couldn't find any major problem with this app. Opera Mini is now my default browser.
I also could read that the perfect fluidity of Opera Mini is due to the fact that Opera uses a server to compress all web pages before loading them. So here is its secret !
Anyway it works so fine that I don't really care how it does this.
whenever i set the image quality to medium or low, te pictures get really small.. Is there a way to stretch them?