Voice & Data - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Voice & Data - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

People are making a big deal about Verizon Iphone not having voice and data at the same time. I thought this was a common issue since I never get voice and data on my nexus one (Tmo) how about you guys? The only phone that gave me voice and data was the G1.

No problems here, but I'm on AT&T. I'm almost always browsing the web or doing something else when I'm talking to the wife...just don't tell her that.

armyengineer51 said:
No problems here, but I'm on AT&T. I'm almost always browsing the web or doing something else when I'm talking to the wife...just don't tell her that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL what guys doesn't do that. I think it must be T-Mobile they been really unreliable lately in Los Angeles.

I can confirm that I can use data while on a call with US tmobile and yes it does matter (sometimes).

i believe it has something to do with the frequencies in use.
att can do data and voice simultaneously
the girlfriends nokia on tmo can not

disgustip8ted said:
i believe it has something to do with the frequencies in use.
att can do data and voice simultaneously
the girlfriends nokia on tmo can not
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has nothing to do with the frequency, and every 3G GSM network has the capability to do voice and data at the same time. I assume in your case it's just bad coverage or she's not on 3G.

if you are connected to 3g you can use voice and data at the same time. its been this way for years. if you are on EDGE then you cannot. att and tmobile both are the same in this regard.
3g HSDPA has always been better because of this over verizon and sprint.

Related

EDGE VS 3G

I have a quick question, I know that Cingular is slowly rolling out their 3G network, for their new video service. My question is, is that hard wired into the phone or software driven. meaning, my 8125 has edge built in, when 3G hits my area, can it be enabled by a rom update, Or do you have to buy a phone that is made for 3G? Thanks!

Its a radio device built into the phone, So no you will not be able to use 3g with the wizard.
Sorry

3G is definitely hardware based, so you'll not be able to take advantage of the 3G speed with your Wizard. AFAIK the US 3G system is (surprise surprise!) incompatible with the rest of the world 3G system, so a Universal wouldn't even be able to be used on Cingular. I'm not sure if there is an HTC CDMA (rather than UTMS) based device available yet.

there's plenty of HTC CDMA devices. the 6700 (either sprint or verizon), the Treo 700w, or the craptacular motorola Q. all support eVDO (which apparently is 3G. and honestly, even $45 a month for "faster" internet is extremely ridiculous, i mean do u need the pages to load in a heatbeat? or do you really download songs directly to your phone? the only reason to get it would be if you used services like Orb or slingbox to stream media. i mean, does 3g add any better voice quality? or is it just internet? if its just internet, i'll pass, and i can keep the $45 a month for something else.

i think it's insane that it cost as much for 3g as it does for my cable at home...

From what I read, the reason HTC opened an office in the US is so they can release phones here the same time they're released overseas. We'll see how much bull that is when hermes comes out. (Hermes is basically a 3g UMTS version of the wizard)

darkjedi said:
i mean, does 3g add any better voice quality?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, there is video calling, which, although cool is basically just a gimmick at the moment (plus you've got to rely on the other person having a 3G phone also). Sure, 3G technology is cool and all, but until it becomes as affordable as a normal phone contract, then it's not gonna catch on as quick as the networks would like.

thats not adding better voice quality. so i'm gonna take that as a no. and thats a shame.

darkjedi said:
thats not adding better voice quality. so i'm gonna take that as a no. and thats a shame.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct, you're still using a GSM voice bearer and GSM codec for voice so regardless of the bandwidth you have you're limited to about 12kbps in a phone call.
That said, the VoIP services such as Skype *in theory* would benefit from the increased bandwidth as they use raw IP to make the call.

Inabuilty for Simultaneous Voice and Data

Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.

donniesd said:
Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is.........

hah2110 said:
It is.........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!

donniesd said:
Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.

hah2110 said:
What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am in 3G.
I have no problems when putting my sim in my tp2. And talking while surfing.
And i am not the only one. No one has givein a reason as to why.

Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.

It should work. I do it all the time, but it is network dependent.
In case it works on your TP2 i suggest you check your settings.

Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs

JCopernicus said:
Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Incorrect. "WCDMA only" is still UMTS/HSPA (3G/3.5G in consumer speak), therefore you still get voice/data at once. I can only conclude that you're under the assumption that UMTS/GSM work the same way EVDO/CDMA does. On an EVDO network, all data goes through the EVDO network, while voice stays on 1xCDMA, because EVDO is an addon to 1xCDMA.
UMTS and GSM are two completely incompatible technologies that only share GSM backend features and a SIM card. The circuits in the phone are separate, the antennas on the towers are separate. You're either completely on UMTS for voice and data (inc. both at the same time) or you're completely on GSM (for voice or data but not both at once. In fact, if you're locked on to a strong UMTS signal, the parts of your phone that handle GSM shut down for power conservation and only wake up when your signal drops to check to see if you'll get a superior signal over GSM. It will do this periodically, but won't stay active for long unless your UMTS is so bad that you won't be able to hold a call. THEN your phone powers up and maintains the GSM radio, while putting the UMTS radio on standby, only powering it up momentarily to look for a better signal.
The only time you have GSM and WCDMA/UMTS powered on at the same time is during hand-offs from one network to the other. That's why staying in areas where you bounce between the two kills your battery so quickly, the radio is drawing roughly twice as much juice as it normally does, plus it's computing which one will do the better job for the moment. Even then, at that time, the phone and its OS will be using only one of the networks at a time, and if it's UMTS, you'll be able to hold a call and surf the web.

rx7freak said:
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TMO on TMO.
Attached are my settings.
I have this on every rom or radio i try.

Hey, sort of same thing just happened to me
in my case using GSM Auto (prl) or WCDMA prefered I can connect to HSDPA but GSM is in emergency calls only, weird.
but I can do both on GSM only (GPRS/EDGE)

Re-flashed to official release of 2.1 same thing.

i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?

RogerPodacter said:
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am connected to 3G network. Call comes in. I can not browse on the internet. While i am on the call i go check settings and i have droped to GPRS. As soon as i hang up i go back to 3G (HSDPA)

Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.

RogerPodacter said:
Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is.
I have no problem on my TP2.

I use it often too but today I was unable to it. Hopefully its because my area is being updated to hsdpa+

i think i have the same problem. 3G drops during voice call, doesn't connect during the call. reconnects after the call ends.
stock nexus one tmobile FRG83D

When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.

Jack_R1 said:
When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that is normal and it really sucks when you're on a long call. Once you lose 3G signal it's gone for good. I don't know if it's a network problem, or the phone, but it should be fixed.

Can you talk and surf at the same time with the bionic ???

I have been looking all over about this. I have the Thunderbolt but not happy with the HTC poor quality phone, and random reboots once in a blue.
So I am thinking in getting the Bionic.
Thanks.

You totally can talk and surf at the same time, I did it today and was surprised to see it worked very well.

fgarcia25 said:
I have been looking all over about this. I have the Thunderbolt but not happy with the HTC poor quality phone, and random reboots once in a blue.
So I am thinking in getting the Bionic.
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
*Only* on 4G. 3G simultaneous voice/data is not supported.

Berzerker7 said:
*Only* on 4G. 3G simultaneous voice/data is not supported.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? That's interesting... my Thunderbolt does voice & data on LTE or EVDO. From what I was told by my Verizon Business Data Specialist, it's actually not a limitation of the Verizon Network, it has to do with the antenna in the phone (which is strange, you would think they would have enabled it long ago on 3G).

WorldOfJohnboy said:
Really? That's interesting... my Thunderbolt does voice & data on LTE or EVDO. From what I was told by my Verizon Business Data Specialist, it's actually not a limitation of the Verizon Network, it has to do with the antenna in the phone (which is strange, you would think they would have enabled it long ago on 3G).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe the thunderbolt has a separate "2g" radio and antenna that it can make voice calls on while using the 3g or 4g for data.
I'm not sure if the bionic is the same.

eallan said:
I believe the thunderbolt has a separate "2g" radio and antenna that it can make voice calls on while using the 3g or 4g for data.
I'm not sure if the bionic is the same.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is true. The Thunderbolt doesn't actually do simultaneous 3G voice/data, it has voice over 1X on a different antenna, then data over 3G.
It is *most definitely* a limitation of the network, running EVDO Rev. A which doesn't support it. Rev. B does, but VZ decided to skip it and go straight to LTE.

Cool. Thanks everyone. This definitely makes me want to get it.

Share what your on tbolt, internet works when surfing and talking
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

scottthreet32 said:
Share what your on tbolt, internet works when surfing and talking
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think what you are asking "What data services work while you are talking on your Thunderbolt?" If so, everything that I have noticed... Email, Browser surfing, and SMS messaging. Not sure about Hotspot Tethering, but would have to assume it does.
To qualify my previous statement regarding simultaneous Voice and Data, I didn't mean to say that both Voice & Data were 3G and worked at the same time... What I meant to say was that while my Thunderbolt showed a 3G EvDo connection, I could talk and surf. If the voice is going over a 1X network, I wouldn't know because the voice quality was just as good as always. It is safe to say that voice doesn't require 3G EvDo connectivity to function well.
Furthermore, if they made separate antennas in the Tbolt that made this possible, then both Berzerker7 and I were correct... though there is a limitation on VZW 3G EvDo's network, if the phone manufacturer's had just made separate antennas, then there are a lot of phones that could have done Simultaneous Voice & Data.

talk and surf
I just tested this myself and I am able to talk and surf at the same time with no problems but I was on 4g don't know what will happen when I am on 3g. Something else that I noticed what I think it is, is that voice is going over cdma and data is going over gsm. If you go to your dialpad and type this in *#*#4636#*#* and then go to phone information, you will see at the bottom it says gsm/cdma network auto. Here is where I found the code along with some other interesting info askvg.com/google-android-hidden-secret-codes Does anyone else have any info on this. Biggest question why isn't VZW advertising that you can talk and surf at the same time now...

CarmeloR said:
I just tested this myself and I am able to talk and surf at the same time with no problems but I was on 4g don't know what will happen when I am on 3g. Something else that I noticed what I think it is, is that voice is going over cdma and data is going over gsm. If you go to your dialpad and type this in *#*#4636#*#* and then go to phone information, you will see at the bottom it says gsm/cdma network auto. Here is where I found the code along with some other interesting info askvg.com/google-android-hidden-secret-codes Does anyone else have any info on this. Biggest question why isn't VZW advertising that you can talk and surf at the same time now...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does not work in 3G areas unfortunately... since my home is still 'out there'
Mark

If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.

psufan5 said:
If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're on wifi you can talk and surf, you've always been able to. That's not new.

psufan5 said:
If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All android phones I have used allow simultaneous voice/data with a Wi-Fi connection.

The reason the Thunderbolt is the only LTE VZW phone that can do it, Qualcomm and HTC jumped through hoops to with the FCC to get them to allow the Thunderbolt. It has a total of 4 antennas and they do not exceed the legal limit imposed by the FCC. (This is probably an attribute, although not certain, of why the battery life sucks.) Therefore you can talk and surf on 3G and 4G. This antenna combo is not on any of the other LTE phones offered by VZW (They all are not HTCs the other ones), but i'm sure the next HTC 4G phone that comes out will be able to do it on 3G and 4G if it has the multiple antenna setup from Qualcomm.
One of the sources I've read, I can't find the one that I really liked though:
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...erbolt-review-first-verizon-4g-lte-smartphone

[Q] Sprint simultaneous data/voice?

On my m7 I was able to talk on the phone and continue to use my internet connection. I don't seem to have that functionality on this device. Every time a receive a phone call it drops LTE. I thought running on two simultaneous networks (CDMA + LTE) I could do both. Anyone experiencing the opposite? Did I mess something up? Or is that just how this particular device is? Any input would be deeply appreciated. Thanks.

skuddy said:
On my m7 I was able to talk on the phone and continue to use my internet connection. I don't seem to have that functionality on this device. Every time a receive a phone call it drops LTE. I thought running on two simultaneous networks (CDMA + LTE) I could do both. Anyone experiencing the opposite? Did I mess something up? Or is that just how this particular device is? Any input would be deeply appreciated. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, lte is data only, calls cant go through lte. you need VoLTE to have voice over the lte network. and sprint doesnt offer volte, not yet at least. well, that or you need two radios in your device. the n6 only has one radio.

^This exactly. However, you can use WiFi, if available, and have the same functionality.

I completely understand what voice over LTE is and the fact that my phone uses CDMA for voice. My question was if my HTC one could use my LTE data and voice at the same time on the same network (even the same tower) why the heck can my n6 not do it? I'm actually disappointed with the lack of this functionality. I thought it was standard when sprint switched to LTE because it is essentially using two networks simultaneously.

skuddy said:
I completely understand what voice over LTE is and the fact that my phone uses CDMA for voice. My question was if my HTC one could use my LTE data and voice at the same time on the same network (even the same tower) why the heck can my n6 not do it? I'm actually disappointed with the lack of this functionality. I thought it was standard when sprint switched to LTE because it is essentially using two networks simultaneously.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It sounds like you didn't read the memo when it came to spark enabled devices,let me explain. Since sprint is using spark (or for tech people, 800mhz, 1900mhz and 2.5ghz) the newer phones that are spark enable (our nexus 6 being one of them) in order to take advantage of the HD voice upgrade and higher speed data, everything basically goes through one channel instead of two (basically all the older lte enabled phones). So before you had a dedicated channel for lte and a dedicated channel for voice. Now when a voice call is initiated, it's all going through the one channel for HD voice (trust me, when you hear it, you'll know it) instead of being broken up into two. Referring to what you said, it's not a lack of functionality, just the way the phones work now until, like the other posters said, volte is enabled on sprint, which hopefully will be happening this year.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app

Excellent. I didn't know that happened on spark. I knew it was triband and the data speed shows it. I was getting true 24mbps download speeds on msdn subscriber downloads. Thank you for the thorough explanation. Aren't we all giant nerds on XDA?

USA Carrier Test[Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Google Fi]

This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.

ZyroSS said:
This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?

tech_head said:
Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, didn't work

So this is all true for the international version, but not for the Tencent edition. Tencent version only supports bands 1-4 and pretty much nothing else. Those are the old school bands for AT&T and TMobile, so signal is ok but not great. Indoors TMobile is pretty bad with the Tencent phone, whereas I get fantastic signal with my OnePlus 7 pro in the same places on TMobile.
Damn shame, other than that the rog2 is better in every way and I'm going to miss it dearly but I've got a 1 year old and not having a cell signal at home or work is not an option.

cyagl643 said:
Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.

Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.

bruciebabie1963 said:
Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And what happens when the gsm(3g) gets turned off in beginning of 2020? Asus seriously f'd up not allowing volte.

homerunbm33 said:
So I have att and really would like to get this phone but concerned about any possible issues(for example no band 14 and 30) . Did you have any issues with service with att? I'm considering the rog, op7t or pixel 4. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I had no real issues with AT&T, it's the reason I'm getting my 2nd sim to be an MVNO for this phone. 1 Carrier only AT&T is simply the best overall for this phone. If we say Verizon is 100% 4G LTE strength/reliabililty, then AT&T is like 90%, while AT&T is 60%. This is of course in more rural areas. In the city it matters not if you have AT&T or T-Mobile...

cyagl643 said:
The Verizon idea sounds like a great workaround because you can also download the My Messages app at the play store and it works the same as the website. The only downside, and correct me if Im wrong would be when calling people they would see your google number and not your real cell number. Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...

Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Technically speaking 911 SHOULD work, but I'm not about to get in trouble trying that one out LOL. I have a backup emergency cell phone line for those emergencies since I also, cannot stand not being able to have that option even if the chances are slim. I am also keeping Verizon because it simply has the strongest 4G signal of the USA carriers that I tested, however AT&T isn't too far behind it's definitely good, just not great. AT&T gets calls and texts by default too so theres that as well lol

bruciebabie1963 said:
Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I may consider this as well. I'll likely run it Verizon only with the work around and see how it goes before adding a second SIM.
As for 911, I think I may be able to contact a local 911 operator and see what info I can glean from them.
---------- Post added at 03:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:20 PM ----------
I did find this, which includes some info both on how 911 works with un-activated phones, and how to make a test call.
https://www.911.gov/frequently_asked_questions.html

ZyroSS said:
I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I mean I tried the app on the current phone I have with wifi calling off and airplane mode on, and had someone text me and I got it.

Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you

Drkstover said:
Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.

AVJ1221 said:
I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...

ram4ufriends said:
What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try restarting your phone. Sometimes GV gets buggy for some unknown reason. I also have Hangouts and Hangouts dialer downloaded so Google assistant can make calls when I ask. I believe GV can dial out through dialer as well.
And make sure to allow GV and any other calling app you're using to auto start in your phone settings.

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How is Good2go working for you?
Any problems in calls/texts?
Thanks.

Database Develop

welcome