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Hi everyone,
Here's the problem with an edge connection on T-mobile:
1) In PIE (pocket internet explorer) I type in www.google.com
2) It takes me to www.google.com/m, which is fine with me
3) I'm looking at the webpage and then select "sign in"
4) PIE closes with no error codes or nothing
5) I tried several websites and I could surf a page or 2, then PIE closes
6) Cleared Storage and started from scratch, nor programs installed and it does the same thing
7) Cleared storage again and reset before customizations started, still PIE closes
Note: If I use a wi-fi connection, it works fine. I'm able to surf any webpage with no problems. The edge connection works fine also. I was able to listen to Sirius for several minutes with no problems. What would cause PIE to close with no errors? Any ideas?
By the way, this is my second Tilt. I was able to surf the web with zero problems with the first tilt I had. The first one had issues with tinny bluetooth sound and the built in speaker sound broke up and same with the mic. This one has the same issue, so it's either a T-mobile thing or hardware/software issue. I also notice a delay when trying to select something on the screen.
Thanks for the help,
GP
try taking off the proxy. i had the same problem with some sites but if i took off the proxy i didnt have the problem
I have the same issue with my Tilt, I've not found an answer. But it looks to only close when trying to go to a secure webpage. ie. gmail.com or logmein.com
hope someone can help us figure this out.
I havent seen anyone else mention this, i duno if its a conflict or what.
If i use my google search bar off the today screen, or i open PIE sometimes (havent nailed it down yet as to when) my PIE will open like its searching for the google search or the address i put in. HOwever all i get is a blank white screen?
Resetting the tilt seems to cure this, then i see it does the connecting to medianet blah blah.... is there some sort of hibernate mode or some thing im not aware of? (seems like if i leave the phone on all nite charging this happens)
thnx
sorry if i missed this topic
it's not something I've ever seen:maybe a bug with live search and your ROM: which are you using?
Maybe now is a good time to switch to Opera Mobile 9.5 and set that as your default browser. PIE is enough to make me throw my phone at the wall, and If i were forced to use it again I wouldn't keep my Windows Mobile device.
Each to their own though!
If you don't already have Opera Mobile the latest cab is here which also includes a cab to set it as the default for everything, including the search bar.
you can also download the attached cab which is a standalone google today plugin if you'd like to try a different option. Google made their own today screen search engine but it doesn't seem to be available despite only being released a month or so ago.....strange.
I get the white screen from time to time after putting in push email and having a constant data connection. I enabled the disconnect button to the top connection popup and after disconnecting the phone reconnects and all is well.
i will check out the opera i am using the google today plugin and i have it if anyone needs it.
Thats part of the problem when i use it from time to time PIE opens w/ a blank screen. And i have skyfire, but i have to say for some things i just dont wanna deal w/ the frustration of that stupid zoom button and lag on skyfire so i just use PIE for things like opening streaming content etc.
Could very well be a push email type of problem, i use it constantly w/ 3 or 4 different accounts.
Im using the latest AT&t minus the bloatware.
ITs almost like it wont initiate the medianet .... actually thats exactly what it is. Because once i restart, and i hit search or open PIE it instantly says connecting to medianet........ when its blank it just sits there, never even tries to connect.
One more observation... like i said i use the email alot. Sometimes when i go hit email, then goto>folders>pick an account. It (the email account) will pop up and say disconnecting (??) is it maybe hanging up in the email ? and thats why PIE wont open>? Its exactly (if youve ever had this happen) if you have OPERA open, and you try to use PIE, youll get nothing. (at least in my situation) until you close the other browser. Does that sound right? Ive had it happen serveral times to me, i use SPB so i hit close all then reopen PIE and it works. If this is normal, then id have to assume im somehow getting stuck (connected) to my email.
I have experienced this issue as long as I've had my Tilt.
It also affected my ability to download traffic updates on Smartphlow (a live traffic map for the Seattle area).
Same exact behavior, PIE would just give blank white screen. No change after clearing temp files etc... Soft reset would always get me back on with no trouble (other than the PITA of having to restart the phone).
Now I've recently moved to a house that sits in a reception hole so the Tilt is always bumping back and forth between 3G (1-2 bars) and Edge (4-5 bars). Since moving in 6 weeks ago I've not had the same problem.
It definitely seems related to the length of time that a data connection has been active. I previously could only go 1-2 days tops without having to restart the phone to get good data.
Incidentally though, mail never had a problem, just PIE and the traffic app (didn't try any other apps that I can think of that might have shown the same behavior).
Unfortunately I don't know the true cause or have a solid solution for it, just more of a "me too" post with additional detail in hopes it's helpful for someone to pin down the root cause and find a solution.
+1 to that, It happens to me often, like every few days, no matter what rom I'm on. It seems to only effect pocket ie, opera mobile still works, email still works etc... only pocket ie fails.
I can usually correct it by going into airplane mode and then back which is a bit faster than a soft reset but its still annoying.
I've been experiencing it on the stock ATT rom as well as the many roms I've gone through since getting my tilt. I'm primarily on edge but do go through 3g about once a week or so.
vkoser said:
+1 to that, It happens to me often, like every few days, no matter what rom I'm on. It seems to only effect pocket ie, opera mobile still works, email still works etc... only pocket ie fails.
I can usually correct it by going into airplane mode and then back which is a bit faster than a soft reset but its still annoying.
I've been experiencing it on the stock ATT rom as well as the many roms I've gone through since getting my tilt. I'm primarily on edge but do go through 3g about once a week or so.
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There is our answer then: simply stop using the dreadful Pocket Internet Explorer altogether. It's completely unsuited to QVGA screens and suffers from an inability to support HTML pages correctly and consistantly. Opera Mobile 9.5 on the other hand makes browsing beautiful. It's even a lot faster than PIE over GPRS.
I am having problems as well with PIE. It just refuses to connect to any data signal (Wifi, HSDPA, 3G). All of the other browsers work though. I am a mainly use opera mini, but that is not ideal for cirtain situations. I dont really like PIE but to be honest sometimes I need it as there are issues when I use Opera 9.5 (not being able to use the hardware keyboard, messing around with sound notification settings using the official beta). Has anybody out there got a solution that doesn't involve a hard reset? I have searched around and not found a suitable solution so far. By the way I am using a UK T-mobile Vario 3 with stock rom.
I received my diamond 2 on Saturday (yay) and couldn't wait to start playing with it. However it does have one major problem straight out of the box and i wonder if anyone else has experienced it.
The opera browser is very unstable. It triggers a general exception error from Windows and either constantly asks to send error reports (duely turned off!) or just shuts itself down. Anyone else experienced or found a fix?
Secondly the browser keeps trying to render in mobile mode unless i select the link to go to HTML, how do i turn that off cos the screen renders full screen beautifully.
A few other annoyances, The data connection only seems to work on HSDPA and not GPRS, this is a potential big problem.
The youtube client only works with a wifi connection, what!! HSDPA is easily fast enough to stream, is this specific to my device.
Anny assistance would be appreciated as i would like to know if these problems are specific to my device or just general annoyances.
Cheers.
I don't recognize your problems at all. Opera hasn't crashed one single time on me since I got the D2 last friday. It works very fast and stable, better than any Opera cab I installed on my old Cruise. Full screen (not mobile view) works excellent and is always default in my Opera.
I haven't deliberately used the data connection over GPRS yet, but I have seen the G symbol instead of the 3G or H symbol, when being in some areas. So at least it does see the GPRS network correctly. I have no reason to assume it wouldn't work there.
The youtube application works great too. Completely stable and fast, again not like any Youtube cab I tried on my old Polaris before. And I just tested, it works through wifi and 3g.
I'm sorry for your problems. I am really surprised on how great my Diamond2 is. I think they really hit the nail on the head this time. I don't know how to solve your problems, but if this behaviour happens even directly after you hard reset the device, I guess your only option is to send it back.
haven't had any of that really myself and i actually tried to 'overload' opera. I run it fullscreen an all.
have you tried the general discussion forums? If it's opera itself, you'll maybe find something there.
youtube is a bit sluggish at times in 'hq mode' but fine otherwise for me
why is hsdpa over gprs a problem? Both are for data, just hsdpa is quite a bit faster even when taking the fastest gprs vs. the slowest hsdpa data rate.
unless networkcoverage is an issue in your case i wouldn't personally pick 2G over 3G..
maybe you're simply the unlucky one, harsh as it may be.. have you tried HTC customer helpdesk?
I haven't had those problems with opera, haven't seen it crash once yet. Have you tried a hard or soft reset?
I do notice opera on the Diamond 2 is terribly laggy compared to opera mini on my old mobile. Tried skyfire and it's worse, iris about the same.
I found the youtube app works great over HSDPA (and wifi), now this version I do prefer and can't find any faults with it.
my opera crashes if a proxy is enabled on connection settings.
did not have any crashes as i do not use the internet
but when using quickmenu it always shows the opera runing.
you cannot stop it weird
wilcovh said:
did not have any crashes as i do not use the internet
but when using quickmenu it always shows the opera runing.
you cannot stop it weird
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Push internet maybe? (just guessing)
cheers for the replies. I've actually hard reset the device aswell as soft resets. however opera still remained unstable. the problem seems to be with windows though as the error message was from windows and an install of opera 9.5 beta 2 caused the same problem. seems ok now though so will have to to monitor it.
i have to say youtube is a concern as it won't connect unless on wifi.
may take some getting used to or may need sending back, either way i think the software is at fault though, i think the device itself is top notch.
I say it's ok and 30 seconds later opera crashes. dame windows and it's nuances!!
I've experienced some strange behaviour of windows and some programs on my old Cruise some time. Frequent crashes, windows errors and other annoyances, like frequently loosing activesync connection and not seeing the sd-card. In the end, it was caused by a faulty board inside the device. After replacement of the board all problems where gone. I had spent hours trying other ROM's and hard resetting before that.
What I'm trying to say is, that sometimes hardware faults are just causing minor problems, while the device works well most of the time. Then you're eager to think it's a software or ROM problem, but it ain't always. If I were you, I'd send it back. I do understand that's not something you'd really like to do when it just arrived
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I say it's ok and 30 seconds later opera crashes. dame windows and it's nuances!!
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Tried the proxy thing?
As Trinode says you really do want to turn off the proxy setting within the connections page of WM itself. T-Mobile, for example, always adds the useless proxy setting which will almost certainly crash Opera when you look at Gmail.
Why oh why does the connection wizard still insist on adding a proxy when you clearly don't need it?
Thanks for all the replies, this forum really is bloody usefull!
I have tried the proxy thing, and was waiting to respond to test but incredibly this seems to have done the trick! Opera hasn't died since i removed the proxy. Thanks trinode.
I'm with you wibberly, can't see why on earth they need this proxy setting in there, my data connection is far more stable and opera now seems to work fine. Weird!
One thing though is that the youtube app stil doesn't register a network connection through the phone signal, WIFI only. Wonder if this is a T-Mobile data restriction? The fine print from them does say that you shouldn't stream videos. Didn't affect my last contract though. That said i can't say i'm too bothered so long as the device itself is happy.
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One thing though is that the youtube app stil doesn't register a network connection through the phone signal, WIFI only.
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Maybe you can try it with someone elses SIM?
Damn proxies indeed. They always block all my e-mail connections. Turning it off is the first thing I do.
I too had the opera crash problem, but after ttrying to get hotmail to work in TouchFlo natively by turning off the Proxy settings, I've killed two birds with one stone... Stable Opera + Hotmail in TF3D! Wohoo.
Now, who can help with my next query?
I've tried to set the max number of tabs to 6, (as I that's the way I had it set up on my old D1,) under opera:config, and change the user id to sgh-i900 so I can get BBC iPlayer, but doesn't matter how many times I do this, (and press save settings, just incase you ask,) every time I launch Opera, it reverts back to it's default settings, so I'm stuck with 2 crappy tabs and no BBC iPlayer!!!!!!
Any ideas?
Is it possible to change the default Internet Browser to IE from Opera when you press "Launch Browser"?
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I too had the opera crash problem, but after ttrying to get hotmail to work in TouchFlo natively by turning off the Proxy settings, I've killed two birds with one stone... Stable Opera + Hotmail in TF3D! Wohoo.
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Well, this didn't sort the problem for me. I don't use a proxy. I get the error when rss heb notify is on and it notifies for new updates. Wether I press OK or cancel there it gives the shell32.exe error.
wibberly said:
As Trinode says you really do want to turn off the proxy setting within the connections page of WM itself. T-Mobile, for example, always adds the useless proxy setting which will almost certainly crash Opera when you look at Gmail.
Why oh why does the connection wizard still insist on adding a proxy when you clearly don't need it?
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Just to reiterate the above. I received my TD2 today on T-Mobile from mobilephonesdirect.com and Opera was a crashfest until I removed the proxy setting. IT IS A MUST DO SETTING CHANGE!
HTH
Tony
Hi
i've this kind of problem:
Original browser and dolphin browser don't load any page, in wifi and in 3g, any other app that use data connection work fine.
I've this problem for 2 last day, no new app installed...
in attach logcat, any ideas?
THANKS!!
Idk
I also just started having problems with all the browsers. Running Superfly 1.3 Froyo and none of the browsers will connect. Tried Opera, Steel, Dolphin/Dolphin HD, stock and a couple of others. And no, I don't have them all installed at the same time. Starts loading then kicks back to the home screen. Cleared caches and problem still remains. Any suggestions other than a full wipe. All other apps seem to run fine.
I know that will probably be what happens but I can hope. Hate the thought of setting up the phone again with over a hundred apps.
idkidk, hope you don't mind me tacking on to your post, was searching & ran across it. Hopefully we both get fixed.
This started out of the blue yesterday. So far, these are the sites: ABC News (mobile or desktop), NBC.com (mobile or desktop), CBS (mobile or desktop). Other sites, like Walmart.com, load. The sites that won't load are not offline, as I'm able to load them on my laptop and Galaxy S4. There is never an error message, just a blank page that never finishes loading.
This happens in Dolphin, Mercury and Opera browsers, indicating to me that this must be some problem with the OS itself, rather than an individual browser.
I've already rebooted and done a factory data reset, which helped for a few hours, but now the problem is back and as you can likely imagine, I've no wish to FDR every day. I also disabled web surfing protection in my Avira for Android, thinking that might have been the culprit. Obviously not.
I've read that browsers throwing up blank pages on active sites has been a known problem in Android. One suggested solution was to edit my APN and rename it from VZWINTERNET to just plain INTERNET, but all this did was remove my arrows and gray out my 4G icon, so I changed it back.
I'm rather flummoxed by this because everything else functions smoothly on my tab. I'm able to go to most other websites, just none of the ones I mentioned. I receive email, IMs, push notifications. All apps are able to use the Net, except for Pandora, which will freeze up.
I've noticed that this happens mostly when it's in Hotspot mode. Does sharing the bandwidth cost so much that the device is rendered unable to load sites while hotspotting for another device's access? Exiting hotspot mode does not assuage the problem.
I'm about a step shy of reflashing the whole thing with Odin. Do I need a PIT file to reflash the stock ROM?
Thank you.