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I'm quite content with the idea of getting a Nook Color for my birthday, but I think I'd fall in love with it if it had flash capabilities.
Does it?
~CyanCrayon
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Not as of yet but neither does the ipad. You will do fine without it unless you play those annoying flash games
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jaydon34 said:
Not as of yet but neither does the ipad. You will do fine without it unless you play those annoying flash games
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One great use is flash video. >.>
Doesn't the Nook Color have ARM 7?
And comparing an iPad to a Nook Color is like comparing apples and oranges...
~CyanCrayon
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I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
You can still watch flash videos through various apps like skyfire... i think
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mmarsman said:
I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
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Actually I can confirm a 2.2 release.
Engadget:
"And, thankfully, there might be a much easier way coming, with Barnes & Noble reportedly telling Smartphone Mag that Android 2.2 will be officially coming to the Nook Color in January. Yes, Android 2.3 is what's happening, but this is still an exciting upgrade as it will finally also allow access to a traditional Android home screen and even enable the Android Market."
But in the same article, it says that froyo has already been hacked on...
Edit: Here's the link. http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/14/nook-color-getting-android-2-2-and-market-in-january-current-ha/
~CyanCrayon
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That's not a confirmation, it's just the rumor we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago that's been subsequently debunked by B&N.
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That's not a confirmation, it's just the rumor we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago that's been subsequently debunked by B&N.
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Yeah, you're probably right. >_<
B&N has said that 2.2 will come in 2011 at some point.
Patience young Jedi.
In Devs we trust...they will get it done....
Relatively speaking the development on the NC has been quite active given the low user base, and short amount of time it has been on the scene.
mmarsman said:
I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
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getting 2.2 doesn't necessarily mean nook will support flash. I have a feeling it won't be fully supported and may be like the archos with choppy flash playback.
but will be interesting to see what happens.
i think people need to realize that the device is meant to be an ereader and I don't think B&N is going to spend money to make the device into a tablet.
Well flash has already been proven to work based on the 2.2 build here.
While it may not be completely smooth, it will be useful for sure.
My netbook doesn't even run flash video completely smooth either but its perfectly acceptable.
if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
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Pre2 OMAP3630 Vs Nook Color OMAP3621
I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
Thanks
Piotr
piotrbartkowiak said:
if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
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Pre2 OMAP3630 Vs Nook Color OMAP3621
I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
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Piotr
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In Theory yes it could be done.....
In Reality, with out the Source code, not alot can be done to get this ported over.
I just wont to try. I need to say my Palm Pixy Plus is one of my favorite phones but it seems it wont be updated any further, and HPalm announced today this TPad only problem for me is 9,7".
7" is my favorite form factor for tablets but Android 2.1 feels limited. 3.0 is not there yet.
Its the best time to play around with my Nook but as I'm saying havent had much luck yet, well I have a cool name WebNook.
Do not bother
WebOS is a copywrited OS. It would be illegal, immoral, and very near impossible to do. HP bought it for over a billion dollars, so they will protect it. Android is "good enough" for the NOOK.
piotrbartkowiak said:
I just wont to try. I need to say my Palm Pixy Plus is one of my favorite phones but it seems it wont be updated any further, and HPalm announced today this TPad only problem for me is 9,7".
7" is my favorite form factor for tablets but Android 2.1 feels limited. 3.0 is not there yet.
Its the best time to play around with my Nook but as I'm saying havent had much luck yet, well I have a cool name WebNook.
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Yeah 2.1 is rather limited, but keep in mind that soon CM7 will be out for the nook with I think 2.2 or 2.3 and it will be much better, and as far as 3.0 goes we don't even have the official release or source yet, the build people are playing with is the SDK Preview release, which is far from fully Honeycomb.
So there is still plenty of Growing room in the nook.
There was a group of people in the CDMA hero forum that attempted to port WebOS to the Hero. I think they got it working but stopped due to copyright. I searched for the thread using both the XDA search and google. It looks like XDA removed it.
I'm not trying to justify myself from trying (still unsuccessfully, and I dont want to make any money from it) to port WebOS to my Nook but what I remember Windows Phone is copywrited OS too and this whole Portal is build around people who are making new roms, and porting new aps to devices. Plus theres nothing better to learn on than something that you shouldn't.
painter_ said:
There was a group of people in the CDMA hero forum that attempted to port WebOS to the Hero. I think they got it working but stopped due to copyright. I searched for the thread using both the XDA search and google. It looks like XDA removed it.
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I'm pretty sure that was deleted because it was a Fake.
Lol I even found a story about it at PreCentral
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I'm pretty sure that was deleted because it was a Fake.
Lol I even found a story about it at PreCentral
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I remembered the thread, did not know it was fake. I really did not follow the thread just scanned it really quick. Thanks for the info.
I found this link on my bing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401&page=58
but cant acces it because I dont have 10 posts yet.
piotrbartkowiak said:
I found this link on my bing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401&page=58
but cant acces it because I dont have 10 posts yet.
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You can't access it because it was deleted, not because of post count.
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You can't access it because it was deleted, not because of post count.
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Thanks for checking it out for me.
WebOS is linux and if Nook can run one it mean it can run more, need to reed more how people ported Ubuntu and other Androids than 2.1
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Yeah 2.1 is rather limited, but keep in mind that soon CM7 will be out for the nook with I think 2.2 or 2.3 and it will be much better, and as far as 3.0 goes we don't even have the official release or source yet, the build people are playing with is the SDK Preview release, which is far from fully Honeycomb.
So there is still plenty of Growing room in the nook.
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2.3 is what they are working on. When that releases, not only will we get all the 2.3 goodness, we get rid of all the B&N garbage. That's what we're all waiting with baited breath for.
nicbennett said:
2.3 is what they are working on. When that releases, not only will we get all the 2.3 goodness, we get rid of all the B&N garbage. That's what we're all waiting with baited breath for.
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I really like the B&N Library Software and the Ability to Purchase Books on the device, Granted the B&N Launcher is junk, But I like the Library App, Maybe we can rip it off and still use it?
I did just try Aldiko, which is very nice, But I like the Easy of Syncing my library with the B&N Library that comes with the Nook Color, Its also far Superior to the nook app of the Market which is laughable.
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I really like the B&N Library Software and the Ability to Purchase Books on the device, Granted the B&N Launcher is junk, But I like the Library App, Maybe we can rip it off and still use it?
I did just try Aldiko, which is very nice, But I like the Easy of Syncing my library with the B&N Library that comes with the Nook Color, Its also far Superior to the nook app of the Market which is laughable.
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I recently tried Aldiko also, and quite like it. It seems pretty superior to barnes and noble reader. The only downside, as you said, is losing the simple sync with B&N. I'm sure people would come up with a simple enough work around though. I personally don't buy books from them, so it's not too much of a concern for me. perhaps they could be synced with the nook app in the market and then once downloaded could be added to the Aldiko library?
just thought I would post for anyone interested in a possible port, 2.1 SDK was just released
developer dot palm dot com / blog / 2011 / 03 / the-webos-2-1-sdk-is-now-available /
webOS on the NC would be quite tricky..... no keyboard
piotrbartkowiak said:
I'm not trying to justify myself from trying (still unsuccessfully, and I dont want to make any money from it) to port WebOS to my Nook but what I remember Windows Phone is copywrited OS too and this whole Portal is build around people who are making new roms, and porting new aps to devices. Plus theres nothing better to learn on than something that you shouldn't.
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The Windows Phone Roms are for phones that are licensed to run said OS. You won't find a WP7 ROM for the NC for example, because it's not licensed to run it. You could probably get your mitts on the SDK, hack around and get WebOS kind of, sort of running on the NC, but there is no way you could make any argument that it was legal.
I used to have a Palm Pre Plus, and besides the factory defects of 3 units, I wasn't really impressed with the OS either.
For me nothing beats my Nexus One. So having my Nook run CM7 is way more enjoyable.
adunofaiur said:
WebOS is a copywrited OS. It would be illegal, immoral, and very near impossible to do. HP bought it for over a billion dollars, so they will protect it. Android is "good enough" for the NOOK.
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yep, we got in trouble for trying to put it on the hero lol
My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
My thought was just autonootering her Nook.
Can anyone think of a compelling reason to use Froyo, HC etc for her.
Thanks in advance
rgreenpc said:
My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
My thought was just autonootering her Nook.
Can anyone think of a compelling reason to use Froyo, HC etc for her.
Thanks in advance
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No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
mutant13 said:
No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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i agree 100%, messing with froyo, cm7, hc is good but you lose the great nook reader apps, (theres an market version but its not as good) and there not working perfectly yet.
Thanks guys...
I can still replace her launcher etc with zeam/launcher pro on a rooted nook correct?
I get my own NC soon (which I will be playing with).
I have also noticed the work on porting the stock app.
Yep, my wife (and myself too!) still on Auto Nootered 2.1 stock B&N because it's the most robust solution right now. No /boot eating itself, no market problems, the B&N Software works right, etc..
For the wife primarily, since she has purchased several childrens books and such, plus for her I like to Keep it Simple.
For me, I just like that it "just works" and no fuss. Would I like 2.2? Sure. The speed bump from 2.1 to 2.2 on my Nexus One was nice, but it's not worth the little annoyances and problems that happen randomly.
Dualboot to save your marriage! worked for me.. lol
khaytsus said:
Yep, my wife (and myself too!) still on Auto Nootered 2.1 stock B&N because it's the most robust solution right now. No /boot eating itself, no market problems, the B&N Software works right, etc..
For the wife primarily, since she has purchased several childrens books and such, plus for her I like to Keep it Simple.
For me, I just like that it "just works" and no fuss. Would I like 2.2? Sure. The speed bump from 2.1 to 2.2 on my Nexus One was nice, but it's not worth the little annoyances and problems that happen randomly.
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+1 to this post exactly! Do autonooter up to 1.1 with a replacement launcher and disabled updates. My wife LOVES her 2.1, 1.1 B&N NC and has had zero complaints with watching movies, reading books, playing games, etc. She's not tech savvy at all either, so that's a testament to the NC's solidness running eclair. However this did require me tweaking a great deal of things overtime. If suggest you spend the first week with it in your arsenal tweaking it as need be so that when you five it to your wife it runs smoothly.
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+1 to this post exactly! Do autonooter up to 1.1 with a replacement launcher and disabled updates. My wife LOVES her 2.1, 1.1 B&N NC and has had zero complaints with watching movies, reading books, playing games, etc. She's not tech savvy at all either, so that's a testament to the NC's solidness running eclair. However this did require me tweaking a great deal of things overtime. If suggest you spend the first week with it in your arsenal tweaking it as need be so that when you five it to your wife it runs smoothly.
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Can you replace the stock launcher and still get B&N stock reader and in-store experience?
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Can you replace the stock launcher and still get B&N stock reader and in-store experience?
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It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
Just realized you were asking a more refined question: after rooting, is stock launcher required for in store experience. I want to try this today and will let you know.
There are now widespread reports of B&N updating the stock NC to 2.2 with Flash and B&N Market in a couple of weeks.
Waiting until then is probably the best bet for those who like the B&N features.
But admittedly the ability to wait a couple of weeks is probably rare these days.
Also, the OP stated:
My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
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Of course, the stock Nook Color already has "apps".
Perhaps there is a specific app that she wants ?
Considering that most apps already run on the NC with Nookie Froyo installed, then it seems likely that the B&N Market will attract most of the popular apps, since they won't have to change anything in the code.
About the only apps that you will definitely not see is Reader Apps.
Lastly, "Wife Approval Factor" is a term that describes your wife's approval of something that you bought for yourself - 51 inch plasma TV, 4 foot high stereo speakers, etc.
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No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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You gentleman do realize that sometimes it's the WIFE who wants the complicated stuff and the husband who is still running stock, right? I had to configure tasker this morning on my husbands nexus one so that it would turn the sound off during meetings and back on afterwards, than installed CM7 on my nook color for kicks.
Having said that the stock is the most stable right now, and there are very few apps you can't install. (The only problems I had were with 2.2+ apps [stupid zombies] and things that required the phone stack [swype].)
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It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
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Did you do something in particular to get the reading icon to work again? I've been on nootered 2.1 for a while now and the reading icon hasn't worked since I rooted it. I just assumed it was an issue with the 2.1 port.
Also, in regards to the OP, keep it stock 2.1 for your wife. I have yet to find an app that doesn't work on it, it's extremely stable, and the stock reader app is almost too bad ass to give up for 2.2, cm7, or the buggy as all hell HC.
doncaruana said:
It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
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Actually thats the next big test. Does using another launcher still permit in-store abilities?
elwopo said:
Did you do something in particular to get the reading icon to work again? I've been on nootered 2.1 for a while now and the reading icon hasn't worked since I rooted it. I just assumed it was an issue with the 2.1 port.
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I think it has to do with where you start. On my wife's nook, which was autonootered from 1.0.1, the reading icon doesn't work. On my nook, autonootered from 1.1.0, the reading icon does work. Simple as that. I'd love to be able to offer some slick thing I did to get it to work, but I didn't. Probably try and see if the 1.1.0 r2 thing will fix it for her but she's operational right now anyway.
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Actually thats the next big test. Does using another launcher still permit in-store abilities?
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Tested this morning. Works perfectly. As soon as I connected to the B&N network, the shop popped up and had the banner with free books, etc. I even downloaded the Oprah biography to "start reading" for free. I use Zeam as my default launcher.
My daughter rooted her 1.1 color nook and is thrilled with the 'cool apps'
She hasn't tested the instore functionality, but she did install the home switcher so she can switch back to the B&N home. I think that should allow instore functionality.
She posted a youtube video of how she rooted it. Thanks to everyone here for making it so easy!
Got the BN update today and would like to know how to get apps like astro, market, etc to work without rooting. Since it is now 2.2 shouldn't they just load without rooting? Yea, I'm a noobie and tech challenged.
Thanks,
Mike
It doesn't install apks...
So, rooting is the only way around it?
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It doesn't install apks...
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carheir said:
So, rooting is the only way around it?
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Correct. Unless the apps are in B&N market then the only other way at this time is rooting.
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I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.
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I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.
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It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).
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It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).
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My understanding is that EVEN rooting won't allow access to the market.
Based on some threads here, it seems B&N have blocked market access fundamentally in the code, so while we can get admin rights we cannot install google apps or other market apps after rooting. (I may be wrong though..)
So it seems that Froyo/CM7 is the way to go for now, for those who want the full tablet functionality. The only problem with that is the B&N nook market reader app sucks compared to stock and there is no way of porting the stock reader into those ROMs.
not sure how B&N would do that, i mean with root access we have the ability to change anything. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Even if this is true, I'm sure SOMEONE out there will find a work around.
What do we need the Market for (It's preferred I know, and to access previously purchased apps) if we can use the Amazon Appstore?
I don't think you'd be able to use the Amazon app store, either, if what they say is true.
I hope this will eventually come to the Nook.
You can side-load it, at least under CM7. Don't know why it wouldn't work under other versions where you can side-load. Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050614
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You can side-load it, at least under CM7. Don't know why it wouldn't work under other versions where you can side-load. Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050614
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That no longer works
richard98 said:
That no longer works
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Really? I actually side-loaded it onto a fresh Phiremod 6.3 install yesterday and read my latest Road & Track on it, no problem.
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Really? I actually side-loaded it onto a fresh Phiremod 6.3 install yesterday and read my latest Road & Track on it, no problem.
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I tried intalling it this morning and got a message saying I had to upgrade to the new version. Per the thread, others are having similar issues.
richard98 said:
I tried intalling it this morning and got a message saying I had to upgrade to the new version. Per the thread, others are having similar issues.
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Weird...I'm using it right now. Just downloaded another magazine no problem. Wonder what the difference might be...
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Weird...I'm using it right now. Just downloaded another magazine no problem. Wonder what the difference might be...
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Don't know. I'm using CM7 2.6.32. I think that might be a somewhat later version of CM7 than the one you are using. Another issue may be that I had never downloaded a magazine from them. Like I mentioned I just tried it this morning. I guess you can count yourself as lucky.
Is this better than magazines on the Nook app?
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Weird...I'm using it right now. Just downloaded another magazine no problem. Wonder what the difference might be...
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This is weird. I just tried it again and it worked. Didn't even suggest that there is a new version of the software. I read elsewhere that they were providing free downloads. Looks like I can download any and all of their magazines free.
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This is weird. I just tried it again and it worked. Didn't even suggest that there is a new version of the software. I read elsewhere that they were providing free downloads. Looks like I can download any and all of their magazines free.
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Yeah, that's pretty much the same thing I'm seeing. Very strange...
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Yeah, that's pretty much the same thing I'm seeing. Very strange...
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Would zinio normally ask for some form of payment before allowing you to download? I have never used it.
Zinio may never come to Nook
1. It was rumored that Zinio was managing the digital magazine subscriptions for B&N. Emphasis on "rumored." No proof was provided.
2. B&N has its own subscription service to some of the same magazines at twice the price. I don't believe they will ever allow a competitor's program on the stock NC.
Older XDA thread - Works for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050614
I had been running Zinio on an older CM7 load. I reflashed everything and just reinstalled Zinio. The old one at the XDA thread above works for the Nook Color. I couldnt get the new one to work on CM7.
I'm reading my magazine subscriptions.
It is now officially available.
Homer
Just downloaded it from the Market, and it's working under CM7.
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Just downloaded it from the Market, and it's working under CM7.
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There was an update to Zinio a couple of days ago and now it's not working under CM7. (At least for me). Hopefully they can fix this soon.
Look at the comments, looks like they broke it basically. Anywho, most likely problems related to not being able to load it on the NC (or likely any wifi tablet) are probably around permissions or such. I looked at perms, at least they're not requiring SMS or such, which screws with pretty much every wifi-only tablet, but they could be requiring other things in the manifest.
IE: It's an app problem at this point. Google has firmly decided to filter more apps based on capabilities. It'd be nice, however, if they'd say exactly WHY an app isn't compatible.
Looking at the logs on crash, I see unresolved method "setSystemUiVisibility". This is only available from API level 11 and up (ie: Honeycomb)
Somehow, it thinks the Nook is a Honeycomb device. If it's due to poor code on the Zinio side then it's harder to fix, but if it's something in Cyanogenmod ROM...
I'm running 7.1.0 release.
Evo yes - Nook no - darn!
What's weird (to me) is Zinio v1. 12.4204 works on my Evo 4G, CM7.0.3.1-supersonic, but not my NookColor CM7. 1.0-encore -- the latter which would be a near perfect device except for that one little shortcoming.
zinio installed from the market and opens fine. I can't login cause I don't have an account but it seems to work fine.