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[Q] Flash on the Nook Color?

I'm quite content with the idea of getting a Nook Color for my birthday, but I think I'd fall in love with it if it had flash capabilities.
Does it?
~CyanCrayon
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Not as of yet but neither does the ipad. You will do fine without it unless you play those annoying flash games
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jaydon34 said:
Not as of yet but neither does the ipad. You will do fine without it unless you play those annoying flash games
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One great use is flash video. >.>
Doesn't the Nook Color have ARM 7?
And comparing an iPad to a Nook Color is like comparing apples and oranges...
~CyanCrayon
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I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?

You can still watch flash videos through various apps like skyfire... i think
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mmarsman said:
I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
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Actually I can confirm a 2.2 release.
Engadget:
"And, thankfully, there might be a much easier way coming, with Barnes & Noble reportedly telling Smartphone Mag that Android 2.2 will be officially coming to the Nook Color in January. Yes, Android 2.3 is what's happening, but this is still an exciting upgrade as it will finally also allow access to a traditional Android home screen and even enable the Android Market."
But in the same article, it says that froyo has already been hacked on...
Edit: Here's the link. http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/14/nook-color-getting-android-2-2-and-market-in-january-current-ha/
~CyanCrayon
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That's not a confirmation, it's just the rumor we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago that's been subsequently debunked by B&N.

RoboRay said:
That's not a confirmation, it's just the rumor we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago that's been subsequently debunked by B&N.
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Yeah, you're probably right. >_<

B&N has said that 2.2 will come in 2011 at some point.

Patience young Jedi.
In Devs we trust...they will get it done....
Relatively speaking the development on the NC has been quite active given the low user base, and short amount of time it has been on the scene.

mmarsman said:
I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
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getting 2.2 doesn't necessarily mean nook will support flash. I have a feeling it won't be fully supported and may be like the archos with choppy flash playback.
but will be interesting to see what happens.
i think people need to realize that the device is meant to be an ereader and I don't think B&N is going to spend money to make the device into a tablet.

Well flash has already been proven to work based on the 2.2 build here.
While it may not be completely smooth, it will be useful for sure.
My netbook doesn't even run flash video completely smooth either but its perfectly acceptable.

Nook App Store & 2.2 update

I purchased a Nook last Friday at BN. The BN employee was giving me his entire sales pitch which I let him because I wanted to look at it before I was going to buy it. He went through the usual stuff of being an awesome e-reader but then went through another tangent that it will be able to moonlight as tablet.
He showed me some of the extra apps and web browser then he said that the nook will be getting an update later this month and that you will be able to install apps. (I remember hearing about the Nook rumors and denial. ) I asked him you mean the Nook will get the Google market place? He said no, it will be a more controlled environment by Barnes and Noble. We want to prevent things like porn and malware going to your device. So that means a Nook App Store? Interesting, huh? I would rather have Google market place but for the average consumer this would be huge.

I guess this already known: (You can delete the post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916932
http://nookdeveloper.barnesandnoble.com/

This has pretty much been known from the beginning. It will be an update, but it will not be a 2.2 update...
I really see no point for B&N to ever got to 2.2 if they are going to keep a closed type of App store.

I don't know anything about Android, other than 2.2 has flash. That's the biggest reason I want 2.2. To me the web without flash is very 10 years ago.

s52m3 said:
I don't know anything about Android, other than 2.2 has flash. That's the biggest reason I want 2.2. To me the web without flash is very 10 years ago.
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s52 engines are very 10 yrs ago, yet they are still amazing so im sure u can live without flash for a little longer

bassrebel said:
s52 engines are very 10 yrs ago, yet they are still amazing so im sure u can live without flash for a little longer
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This is a B&N thread, not a BMW thread.
Still prefer the S50 myself though.

s52m3 said:
I don't know anything about Android, other than 2.2 has flash. That's the biggest reason I want 2.2. To me the web without flash is very 10 years ago.
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Understandable.
I have been hearing something about a switchover from Flash to WebM..Not sure what its all about.
I am certain at some point the Nook is going to get Flash with 2.2 or 2.3, but probably later than sooner...

Croak said:
This is a B&N thread, not a BMW thread.
Still prefer the S50 myself though.
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S52 + N54 present, kind sir, both happily tweaked.

Bimboy said:
S52 + N54 present, kind sir, both happily tweaked.
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Sheesh! You even rooted your cars!
Homer

Advice: Wife Approval Factor

My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
My thought was just autonootering her Nook.
Can anyone think of a compelling reason to use Froyo, HC etc for her.
Thanks in advance

rgreenpc said:
My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
My thought was just autonootering her Nook.
Can anyone think of a compelling reason to use Froyo, HC etc for her.
Thanks in advance
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No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO

mutant13 said:
No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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i agree 100%, messing with froyo, cm7, hc is good but you lose the great nook reader apps, (theres an market version but its not as good) and there not working perfectly yet.

Thanks guys...
I can still replace her launcher etc with zeam/launcher pro on a rooted nook correct?
I get my own NC soon (which I will be playing with).
I have also noticed the work on porting the stock app.

Yep, my wife (and myself too!) still on Auto Nootered 2.1 stock B&N because it's the most robust solution right now. No /boot eating itself, no market problems, the B&N Software works right, etc..
For the wife primarily, since she has purchased several childrens books and such, plus for her I like to Keep it Simple.
For me, I just like that it "just works" and no fuss. Would I like 2.2? Sure. The speed bump from 2.1 to 2.2 on my Nexus One was nice, but it's not worth the little annoyances and problems that happen randomly.

Dualboot to save your marriage! worked for me.. lol

khaytsus said:
Yep, my wife (and myself too!) still on Auto Nootered 2.1 stock B&N because it's the most robust solution right now. No /boot eating itself, no market problems, the B&N Software works right, etc..
For the wife primarily, since she has purchased several childrens books and such, plus for her I like to Keep it Simple.
For me, I just like that it "just works" and no fuss. Would I like 2.2? Sure. The speed bump from 2.1 to 2.2 on my Nexus One was nice, but it's not worth the little annoyances and problems that happen randomly.
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+1 to this post exactly! Do autonooter up to 1.1 with a replacement launcher and disabled updates. My wife LOVES her 2.1, 1.1 B&N NC and has had zero complaints with watching movies, reading books, playing games, etc. She's not tech savvy at all either, so that's a testament to the NC's solidness running eclair. However this did require me tweaking a great deal of things overtime. If suggest you spend the first week with it in your arsenal tweaking it as need be so that when you five it to your wife it runs smoothly.

sonatacreative said:
+1 to this post exactly! Do autonooter up to 1.1 with a replacement launcher and disabled updates. My wife LOVES her 2.1, 1.1 B&N NC and has had zero complaints with watching movies, reading books, playing games, etc. She's not tech savvy at all either, so that's a testament to the NC's solidness running eclair. However this did require me tweaking a great deal of things overtime. If suggest you spend the first week with it in your arsenal tweaking it as need be so that when you five it to your wife it runs smoothly.
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Can you replace the stock launcher and still get B&N stock reader and in-store experience?

rgreenpc said:
Can you replace the stock launcher and still get B&N stock reader and in-store experience?
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It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.

Just realized you were asking a more refined question: after rooting, is stock launcher required for in store experience. I want to try this today and will let you know.

There are now widespread reports of B&N updating the stock NC to 2.2 with Flash and B&N Market in a couple of weeks.
Waiting until then is probably the best bet for those who like the B&N features.
But admittedly the ability to wait a couple of weeks is probably rare these days.
Also, the OP stated:
My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
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Of course, the stock Nook Color already has "apps".
Perhaps there is a specific app that she wants ?
Considering that most apps already run on the NC with Nookie Froyo installed, then it seems likely that the B&N Market will attract most of the popular apps, since they won't have to change anything in the code.
About the only apps that you will definitely not see is Reader Apps.
Lastly, "Wife Approval Factor" is a term that describes your wife's approval of something that you bought for yourself - 51 inch plasma TV, 4 foot high stereo speakers, etc.

mutant13 said:
No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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You gentleman do realize that sometimes it's the WIFE who wants the complicated stuff and the husband who is still running stock, right? I had to configure tasker this morning on my husbands nexus one so that it would turn the sound off during meetings and back on afterwards, than installed CM7 on my nook color for kicks.
Having said that the stock is the most stable right now, and there are very few apps you can't install. (The only problems I had were with 2.2+ apps [stupid zombies] and things that required the phone stack [swype].)

doncaruana said:
It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
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Did you do something in particular to get the reading icon to work again? I've been on nootered 2.1 for a while now and the reading icon hasn't worked since I rooted it. I just assumed it was an issue with the 2.1 port.
Also, in regards to the OP, keep it stock 2.1 for your wife. I have yet to find an app that doesn't work on it, it's extremely stable, and the stock reader app is almost too bad ass to give up for 2.2, cm7, or the buggy as all hell HC.

doncaruana said:
It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
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Actually thats the next big test. Does using another launcher still permit in-store abilities?

elwopo said:
Did you do something in particular to get the reading icon to work again? I've been on nootered 2.1 for a while now and the reading icon hasn't worked since I rooted it. I just assumed it was an issue with the 2.1 port.
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I think it has to do with where you start. On my wife's nook, which was autonootered from 1.0.1, the reading icon doesn't work. On my nook, autonootered from 1.1.0, the reading icon does work. Simple as that. I'd love to be able to offer some slick thing I did to get it to work, but I didn't. Probably try and see if the 1.1.0 r2 thing will fix it for her but she's operational right now anyway.

rgreenpc said:
Actually thats the next big test. Does using another launcher still permit in-store abilities?
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Tested this morning. Works perfectly. As soon as I connected to the B&N network, the shop popped up and had the banner with free books, etc. I even downloaded the Oprah biography to "start reading" for free. I use Zeam as my default launcher.

My daughter rooted her 1.1 color nook and is thrilled with the 'cool apps'
She hasn't tested the instore functionality, but she did install the home switcher so she can switch back to the B&N home. I think that should allow instore functionality.
She posted a youtube video of how she rooted it. Thanks to everyone here for making it so easy!

New update questions

Got the BN update today and would like to know how to get apps like astro, market, etc to work without rooting. Since it is now 2.2 shouldn't they just load without rooting? Yea, I'm a noobie and tech challenged.
Thanks,
Mike

It doesn't install apks...

So, rooting is the only way around it?
lazinase said:
It doesn't install apks...
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carheir said:
So, rooting is the only way around it?
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Correct. Unless the apps are in B&N market then the only other way at this time is rooting.
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I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.

iamtimmah said:
I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.
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It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).

9thSage said:
It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).
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My understanding is that EVEN rooting won't allow access to the market.
Based on some threads here, it seems B&N have blocked market access fundamentally in the code, so while we can get admin rights we cannot install google apps or other market apps after rooting. (I may be wrong though..)
So it seems that Froyo/CM7 is the way to go for now, for those who want the full tablet functionality. The only problem with that is the B&N nook market reader app sucks compared to stock and there is no way of porting the stock reader into those ROMs.

not sure how B&N would do that, i mean with root access we have the ability to change anything. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Even if this is true, I'm sure SOMEONE out there will find a work around.

What do we need the Market for (It's preferred I know, and to access previously purchased apps) if we can use the Amazon Appstore?

I don't think you'd be able to use the Amazon app store, either, if what they say is true.

[Q] Plants Vs. Zombies?

It's the free app of the day on the Amazon App Store today.
Anybody actually get it to work?
It just closes on me with no warning. AospCMod 5/23.

Having the same issue, I get the hourglass, then it just closes.
I ran it on my nook color with no issues though.

Do you have a link?

oohaylima said:
Do you have a link?
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http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011
You have to sign in, then amazon will text or email you a link to DL the app store to your phone/tablet. Once you have done that, fire up the app store app and it will be the free app of the day. You can get a free paid app every day and though it will DL initially to your phone, you can delete it and it will stay in your amazon account if you ever want to reinstall it later. You can also hook up multiple devices to the app (my nook and my hero are both hooked up to the same account).

Drachen808 said:
Having the same issue, I get the hourglass, then it just closes.
I ran it on my nook color with no issues though.
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Exactly the same thing here. Oh well, it may be like Netflix, just not enough of a GPU.

If you DL that bad boy, check out the size, it is massive for a phone app. (the only downloads if you have wifi warning should be a clue).
Yeah, tried this on my hero, dies (eventually) after the hourglass. Tried it on a moment, Started, but very messed up and unusable.
Guy at work is running it okay on a nook color (with honeycomb). A little sluggish.

hareofthedog said:
If you DL that bad boy, check out the size, it is massive for a phone app. (the only downloads if you have wifi warning should be a clue).
Yeah, tried this on my hero, dies (eventually) after the hourglass. Tried it on a moment, Started, but very messed up and unusable.
Guy at work is running it okay on a nook color (with honeycomb). A little sluggish.
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The only lag I notice on the Nook Color is when you pick up the seed packet after you beat a level. Other than that it runs smoothly.

Drachen808 said:
The only lag I notice on the Nook Color is when you pick up the seed packet after you beat a level. Other than that it runs smoothly.
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Ah, actually, now that you mention that, my co-worker with the nook may have said something similar, so disregard my earlier sluggish comment.