New update questions - Nook Color General

Got the BN update today and would like to know how to get apps like astro, market, etc to work without rooting. Since it is now 2.2 shouldn't they just load without rooting? Yea, I'm a noobie and tech challenged.
Thanks,
Mike

It doesn't install apks...

So, rooting is the only way around it?
lazinase said:
It doesn't install apks...
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carheir said:
So, rooting is the only way around it?
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Correct. Unless the apps are in B&N market then the only other way at this time is rooting.
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I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.

iamtimmah said:
I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.
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It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).

9thSage said:
It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).
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My understanding is that EVEN rooting won't allow access to the market.
Based on some threads here, it seems B&N have blocked market access fundamentally in the code, so while we can get admin rights we cannot install google apps or other market apps after rooting. (I may be wrong though..)
So it seems that Froyo/CM7 is the way to go for now, for those who want the full tablet functionality. The only problem with that is the B&N nook market reader app sucks compared to stock and there is no way of porting the stock reader into those ROMs.

not sure how B&N would do that, i mean with root access we have the ability to change anything. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Even if this is true, I'm sure SOMEONE out there will find a work around.

What do we need the Market for (It's preferred I know, and to access previously purchased apps) if we can use the Amazon Appstore?

I don't think you'd be able to use the Amazon app store, either, if what they say is true.

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Nook App Store & 2.2 update

I purchased a Nook last Friday at BN. The BN employee was giving me his entire sales pitch which I let him because I wanted to look at it before I was going to buy it. He went through the usual stuff of being an awesome e-reader but then went through another tangent that it will be able to moonlight as tablet.
He showed me some of the extra apps and web browser then he said that the nook will be getting an update later this month and that you will be able to install apps. (I remember hearing about the Nook rumors and denial. ) I asked him you mean the Nook will get the Google market place? He said no, it will be a more controlled environment by Barnes and Noble. We want to prevent things like porn and malware going to your device. So that means a Nook App Store? Interesting, huh? I would rather have Google market place but for the average consumer this would be huge.
I guess this already known: (You can delete the post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916932
http://nookdeveloper.barnesandnoble.com/
This has pretty much been known from the beginning. It will be an update, but it will not be a 2.2 update...
I really see no point for B&N to ever got to 2.2 if they are going to keep a closed type of App store.
I don't know anything about Android, other than 2.2 has flash. That's the biggest reason I want 2.2. To me the web without flash is very 10 years ago.
s52m3 said:
I don't know anything about Android, other than 2.2 has flash. That's the biggest reason I want 2.2. To me the web without flash is very 10 years ago.
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s52 engines are very 10 yrs ago, yet they are still amazing so im sure u can live without flash for a little longer
bassrebel said:
s52 engines are very 10 yrs ago, yet they are still amazing so im sure u can live without flash for a little longer
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This is a B&N thread, not a BMW thread.
Still prefer the S50 myself though.
s52m3 said:
I don't know anything about Android, other than 2.2 has flash. That's the biggest reason I want 2.2. To me the web without flash is very 10 years ago.
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Understandable.
I have been hearing something about a switchover from Flash to WebM..Not sure what its all about.
I am certain at some point the Nook is going to get Flash with 2.2 or 2.3, but probably later than sooner...
Croak said:
This is a B&N thread, not a BMW thread.
Still prefer the S50 myself though.
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S52 + N54 present, kind sir, both happily tweaked.
Bimboy said:
S52 + N54 present, kind sir, both happily tweaked.
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Sheesh! You even rooted your cars!
Homer

[Q] What now?

I just bought the nook color, what do I do now? Sorry for the stupid question, I am very new to this. All I have done so far is register and update to 1.1 from B&N. My friend told me to look for autonator 2.1.25 (I think), however the one I saw is for version 1.0.1. Any direction you can give is greatly appreciated. Thank You.
goodvibessa said:
I just bought the nook color, what do I do now? Sorry for the stupid question, I am very new to this. All I have done so far is register and update to 1.1 from B&N. My friend told me to look for autonator 2.1.25 (I think), however the one I saw is for version 1.0.1. Any direction you can give is greatly appreciated. Thank You.
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If you are on 1.1 you will need to use AutoNooter 3.0 once that is done you will have a rooted nook, with Google Apps installed,
I would also recommend you install a customer Launcher after you root, Like Zeam, or ADW, these can be downloaded from the market.
Edit:Also in answer your question, What to do now? Read a Book!
therealguppy said:
If you are on 1.1 you will need to use AutoNooter 3.0 once that is done you will have a rooted nook, with Google Apps installed,
I would also recommend you install a customer Launcher after you root, Like Zeam, or ADW, these can be downloaded from the market.
Edit:Also in answer your question, What to do now? Read a Book!
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Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.
Is there a way to do this from a mac?
goodvibessa said:
I just bought the nook color, what do I do now?
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Play around with it just out of the box and find some things that you do and don't like about it.
Run the appropriate auto-nooter and go fix the stuff you didn't like. I had to install dolphin browser immediately because I didn't like the stock one.
Download all the regular apps that you use. I haven't had a problem with anything not working.
I picked zeam for my launcher. Getting it set up was the hardest part for me because I'm not familiar with how standard Android works. I played around with soft keys for a while to get that o my liking.
You could always read some books. Getting switched back to the stock interface isn't hard.
Get setcpu configured to make it faster. I thought mind was a bit sluggish after rooting it.
Rename the phone packages. I think it helps my battery life.
Eagerly await honeycomb's arrival.
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It works perfectly in Mac if you know some Linux commands like diskutil and dd. I use my Mac book pro for writing the img to my SD card.
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Zinio is out for Android... not Nook.

I hope this will eventually come to the Nook.
You can side-load it, at least under CM7. Don't know why it wouldn't work under other versions where you can side-load. Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050614
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You can side-load it, at least under CM7. Don't know why it wouldn't work under other versions where you can side-load. Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050614
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That no longer works
richard98 said:
That no longer works
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Really? I actually side-loaded it onto a fresh Phiremod 6.3 install yesterday and read my latest Road & Track on it, no problem.
SCWells72 said:
Really? I actually side-loaded it onto a fresh Phiremod 6.3 install yesterday and read my latest Road & Track on it, no problem.
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I tried intalling it this morning and got a message saying I had to upgrade to the new version. Per the thread, others are having similar issues.
richard98 said:
I tried intalling it this morning and got a message saying I had to upgrade to the new version. Per the thread, others are having similar issues.
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Weird...I'm using it right now. Just downloaded another magazine no problem. Wonder what the difference might be...
SCWells72 said:
Weird...I'm using it right now. Just downloaded another magazine no problem. Wonder what the difference might be...
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Don't know. I'm using CM7 2.6.32. I think that might be a somewhat later version of CM7 than the one you are using. Another issue may be that I had never downloaded a magazine from them. Like I mentioned I just tried it this morning. I guess you can count yourself as lucky.
Is this better than magazines on the Nook app?
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Weird...I'm using it right now. Just downloaded another magazine no problem. Wonder what the difference might be...
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This is weird. I just tried it again and it worked. Didn't even suggest that there is a new version of the software. I read elsewhere that they were providing free downloads. Looks like I can download any and all of their magazines free.
richard98 said:
This is weird. I just tried it again and it worked. Didn't even suggest that there is a new version of the software. I read elsewhere that they were providing free downloads. Looks like I can download any and all of their magazines free.
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Yeah, that's pretty much the same thing I'm seeing. Very strange...
SCWells72 said:
Yeah, that's pretty much the same thing I'm seeing. Very strange...
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Would zinio normally ask for some form of payment before allowing you to download? I have never used it.
Zinio may never come to Nook
1. It was rumored that Zinio was managing the digital magazine subscriptions for B&N. Emphasis on "rumored." No proof was provided.
2. B&N has its own subscription service to some of the same magazines at twice the price. I don't believe they will ever allow a competitor's program on the stock NC.
Older XDA thread - Works for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050614
I had been running Zinio on an older CM7 load. I reflashed everything and just reinstalled Zinio. The old one at the XDA thread above works for the Nook Color. I couldnt get the new one to work on CM7.
I'm reading my magazine subscriptions.
It is now officially available.
Homer
Just downloaded it from the Market, and it's working under CM7.
Cuhulin said:
Just downloaded it from the Market, and it's working under CM7.
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There was an update to Zinio a couple of days ago and now it's not working under CM7. (At least for me). Hopefully they can fix this soon.
Look at the comments, looks like they broke it basically. Anywho, most likely problems related to not being able to load it on the NC (or likely any wifi tablet) are probably around permissions or such. I looked at perms, at least they're not requiring SMS or such, which screws with pretty much every wifi-only tablet, but they could be requiring other things in the manifest.
IE: It's an app problem at this point. Google has firmly decided to filter more apps based on capabilities. It'd be nice, however, if they'd say exactly WHY an app isn't compatible.
Looking at the logs on crash, I see unresolved method "setSystemUiVisibility". This is only available from API level 11 and up (ie: Honeycomb)
Somehow, it thinks the Nook is a Honeycomb device. If it's due to poor code on the Zinio side then it's harder to fix, but if it's something in Cyanogenmod ROM...
I'm running 7.1.0 release.
Evo yes - Nook no - darn!
What's weird (to me) is Zinio v1. 12.4204 works on my Evo 4G, CM7.0.3.1-supersonic, but not my NookColor CM7. 1.0-encore -- the latter which would be a near perfect device except for that one little shortcoming.
zinio installed from the market and opens fine. I can't login cause I don't have an account but it seems to work fine.

Let me make sure I have this right

OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go. If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right? Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory? Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first. Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it. I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Nard Dog said:
OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go.
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The only stupid question is the one unasked.
Nard Dog said:
If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right?
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That is correct; with one exception. CM7 will mount the "Media" partition, and changes there will be reflected on the stock OS (this partition just stores your files, pictures, music, etc; nothing related to the system).
Nard Dog said:
Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory?
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Yes, performance will suffer. I used to run from SD card, until i finally gave up and tried internal. Internal is much faster, and of course makes it easier to use you SD card for pure storage.
Nard Dog said:
Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app?
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Normal NC? You mean as just an eReader? Yes, you would just use the market version of the nook app.
Nard Dog said:
How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality?
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From what i have seen, you will lose the "Read to me" functionality, and the look and feel of the market version is different of that of the stock version. But, by using CM7 (or rooting stock), you can gain access to Kindle and Google books, which kind of makes up for it.
Nard Dog said:
My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
Nard Dog said:
Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it.
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Opera is by far the best browser; it is the only browser with renders web pages with the GPU; this is what allows smooth scrolling and page views (like the iPad has). Dolphin is nothing more than a skin of the stock browser, and isn't worth worrying about.
Nard Dog said:
I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Remember, we are ALL "noobs" at one point in our life. Being willing to ask and learn is how you stop being one.
Nard Dog said:
Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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The Android Nook app loses:
* Read To Me
* Shelves
* A quick shortcut to the current book you're reading
It gains a couple of features: a fancy page-turn animation, and a true black & white "night" mode. (The stock reader's night mode is more of an off-white on dark gray, if I remember right.)
If your wife has a lot of nook books, she may really miss the shelves feature. Without it all books are listed on one page, ordered by Title, Author or Most Recent. That's most recently purchased, not most recently read.
With no shortcut, every time you return to the app you have to scroll through all the books you have downloaded to find the one you're currently reading. That could be annoying if you've got a few dozen or more loaded.
I get around both problems by using a third-party reader. But to use it, I have to strip the DRM from the books I own, which is at best a gray area legally.
Most people who read a lot will probably get more out of a stock nook, or better still, a nootered nook. If it's nootered (rooted), you get all the features of the stock reader, as well as the ability to download any number of other applications including Kindle and Overdrive (the library lending app.)
Divine_Madcat said:
I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Thank you very much for the input. Your answers have highlighted the fact that I need to do a lot more research. I am not even sure what the NC can do out of the box. While the wifey will use it primarily as a reader, she also wants to be able to play games and download apps. Can this still be done on the stock OS? Can you install a different browser (opera) on the stock OS? I've seen the term "rooted stock" but haven't read up on it much since I figured I'd just have to root them to do what we both want. I'm guessing "rooted stock" is somewhere between being rooted and keeping the stock OS. Would this allow using the native reader intetface while still allowing access to apps via the Android market? If I can get it so she has a nice browser, can play games (Angry Birds, etc) and keep the native reader (which she really likes) that would be perfect. BTW, before anyone starts yelling "USE THE SEARCH NOON" like they do on some forums I have visited, I know these answers are probably all on this forum somewhere and I am continuing to research on my own. I have been and will be reading a ton of old posts, etc. But, it is also helpful to have one thread to list all of the questions that pop into my head.
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I was new to Android a couple months ago and hesitant to root so I decided to put CM7 on an sdcard. I bought a cheap card and the thing worked but it was agonizingly slow. I bought a Sandisk 8GB class 4 and it works GREAT - very fast. I have never overclocked (haven't gotten the nerve for that yet) and it is very speedy for my needs. I later rooted stock which is what I recommend for your wife. You put a launcher on (I like zeam) and then you have your B&N shelves and access to the Android market as well. BTW, you can also get the Amazon Appstore and check it out daily because they put up a free app every day - very cool.
Good luck with your decision. I love my Nook!
Cool, so it looks like it'll be CM7 for me and nootered for her.
One more question since I have your attention. Is there a way to tether the NC to my Droid X and connect to the internet? My Droid X is totally stock and I have no desire to root it or mod it in any way. I have used PDAnet to tether to my laptop, so I'm looking for something similar to that.
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I can tether my Win Mobile phone (getting an Android phone as soon as my contract runs out!) to my NC. My phone creates an ad hoc connection and I had to make a small change on the Nook to get it to work. I'm pretty sure you will have no problem. Just search and you will find the details specific to your phone.
The only (wireless) tethering you can do WITHOUT rooting is the paid Verizon service. No other wireless rooting will work (all need superuser). I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
Divine_Madcat said:
I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I guess it's really just fear. If I brick my phone, I am royally screwed. If I brick the Nook, it would suck, but it's more of a toy anyway. I know it's probably very safe and easy, but I just keep thinking of the horror stories I read when I thought about rooting my Q9m back in the day. That said it is very likely that once I root the Nook, I will end up rooting my phone. Baby steps
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childs gift and rooting

i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys
Rooting by someone()'s All-in-one at the Nook HD, HD+ General section works great for me as it is very easy. The HD+ still works like the original and at the same time can use apps from Play Store (or side load). Only if you want B&N updates it could mean losing your root, but as someone() disabled automatic updates you can wait with updating until others have checked the effects of the updates.
Getting ADB working is the most difficult part. I already had a so called 8bootloop, restoring the original software after experimenting a bit too much, but within half an hour I got it all working again. B&N profiles were updated after logging in, even the profile I already made for my daughter was available. Just my view, more experience users may correct me.
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i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys
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Do you mean Nook Tablets or Nook HD or HD+? They are different devices.
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If all you are looking for is apps, you can side load without rooting, just load on your machine then adb install. I find s lot of free apps don't even show up for tablet, but I copy over from my phone and adb install them, usually without problem
Ps, you can also load a different launcher of course....
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i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
gorelow said:
i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
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Yep we are all hd folk here, can't speak to the tablet, but so far the ota hasn't borked us. And once adb is working, you can side load anything as long as it doesn't touch /system. Including a launcher which is highly recommended since the b&n launcher won't show all the apps easily.
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i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
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If you can get ADB working on your nook tablet you should be able to sideload apps without rooting. And they should be safe if B&N sends an update to the ROM. But you might get better advice by posting in the Nook Tablet forum. Users there know more about the Tablet.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
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If you can get ADB working on your nook tablet you should be able to sideload apps without rooting. And they should be safe if B&N sends an update to the ROM. But you might get better advice by posting in the Nook Tablet forum. Users there know more about the Tablet.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
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sorry didnt realize tis wasnt the reg nook forum thanks

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