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Got the BN update today and would like to know how to get apps like astro, market, etc to work without rooting. Since it is now 2.2 shouldn't they just load without rooting? Yea, I'm a noobie and tech challenged.
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Mike
It doesn't install apks...
So, rooting is the only way around it?
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It doesn't install apks...
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carheir said:
So, rooting is the only way around it?
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Correct. Unless the apps are in B&N market then the only other way at this time is rooting.
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I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.
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I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.
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It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).
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It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).
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My understanding is that EVEN rooting won't allow access to the market.
Based on some threads here, it seems B&N have blocked market access fundamentally in the code, so while we can get admin rights we cannot install google apps or other market apps after rooting. (I may be wrong though..)
So it seems that Froyo/CM7 is the way to go for now, for those who want the full tablet functionality. The only problem with that is the B&N nook market reader app sucks compared to stock and there is no way of porting the stock reader into those ROMs.
not sure how B&N would do that, i mean with root access we have the ability to change anything. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Even if this is true, I'm sure SOMEONE out there will find a work around.
What do we need the Market for (It's preferred I know, and to access previously purchased apps) if we can use the Amazon Appstore?
I don't think you'd be able to use the Amazon app store, either, if what they say is true.
OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go. If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right? Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory? Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first. Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it. I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go.
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The only stupid question is the one unasked.
Nard Dog said:
If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right?
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That is correct; with one exception. CM7 will mount the "Media" partition, and changes there will be reflected on the stock OS (this partition just stores your files, pictures, music, etc; nothing related to the system).
Nard Dog said:
Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory?
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Yes, performance will suffer. I used to run from SD card, until i finally gave up and tried internal. Internal is much faster, and of course makes it easier to use you SD card for pure storage.
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Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app?
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Normal NC? You mean as just an eReader? Yes, you would just use the market version of the nook app.
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How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality?
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From what i have seen, you will lose the "Read to me" functionality, and the look and feel of the market version is different of that of the stock version. But, by using CM7 (or rooting stock), you can gain access to Kindle and Google books, which kind of makes up for it.
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My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it.
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Opera is by far the best browser; it is the only browser with renders web pages with the GPU; this is what allows smooth scrolling and page views (like the iPad has). Dolphin is nothing more than a skin of the stock browser, and isn't worth worrying about.
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I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Remember, we are ALL "noobs" at one point in our life. Being willing to ask and learn is how you stop being one.
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Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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The Android Nook app loses:
* Read To Me
* Shelves
* A quick shortcut to the current book you're reading
It gains a couple of features: a fancy page-turn animation, and a true black & white "night" mode. (The stock reader's night mode is more of an off-white on dark gray, if I remember right.)
If your wife has a lot of nook books, she may really miss the shelves feature. Without it all books are listed on one page, ordered by Title, Author or Most Recent. That's most recently purchased, not most recently read.
With no shortcut, every time you return to the app you have to scroll through all the books you have downloaded to find the one you're currently reading. That could be annoying if you've got a few dozen or more loaded.
I get around both problems by using a third-party reader. But to use it, I have to strip the DRM from the books I own, which is at best a gray area legally.
Most people who read a lot will probably get more out of a stock nook, or better still, a nootered nook. If it's nootered (rooted), you get all the features of the stock reader, as well as the ability to download any number of other applications including Kindle and Overdrive (the library lending app.)
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Thank you very much for the input. Your answers have highlighted the fact that I need to do a lot more research. I am not even sure what the NC can do out of the box. While the wifey will use it primarily as a reader, she also wants to be able to play games and download apps. Can this still be done on the stock OS? Can you install a different browser (opera) on the stock OS? I've seen the term "rooted stock" but haven't read up on it much since I figured I'd just have to root them to do what we both want. I'm guessing "rooted stock" is somewhere between being rooted and keeping the stock OS. Would this allow using the native reader intetface while still allowing access to apps via the Android market? If I can get it so she has a nice browser, can play games (Angry Birds, etc) and keep the native reader (which she really likes) that would be perfect. BTW, before anyone starts yelling "USE THE SEARCH NOON" like they do on some forums I have visited, I know these answers are probably all on this forum somewhere and I am continuing to research on my own. I have been and will be reading a ton of old posts, etc. But, it is also helpful to have one thread to list all of the questions that pop into my head.
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I was new to Android a couple months ago and hesitant to root so I decided to put CM7 on an sdcard. I bought a cheap card and the thing worked but it was agonizingly slow. I bought a Sandisk 8GB class 4 and it works GREAT - very fast. I have never overclocked (haven't gotten the nerve for that yet) and it is very speedy for my needs. I later rooted stock which is what I recommend for your wife. You put a launcher on (I like zeam) and then you have your B&N shelves and access to the Android market as well. BTW, you can also get the Amazon Appstore and check it out daily because they put up a free app every day - very cool.
Good luck with your decision. I love my Nook!
Cool, so it looks like it'll be CM7 for me and nootered for her.
One more question since I have your attention. Is there a way to tether the NC to my Droid X and connect to the internet? My Droid X is totally stock and I have no desire to root it or mod it in any way. I have used PDAnet to tether to my laptop, so I'm looking for something similar to that.
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I can tether my Win Mobile phone (getting an Android phone as soon as my contract runs out!) to my NC. My phone creates an ad hoc connection and I had to make a small change on the Nook to get it to work. I'm pretty sure you will have no problem. Just search and you will find the details specific to your phone.
The only (wireless) tethering you can do WITHOUT rooting is the paid Verizon service. No other wireless rooting will work (all need superuser). I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I guess it's really just fear. If I brick my phone, I am royally screwed. If I brick the Nook, it would suck, but it's more of a toy anyway. I know it's probably very safe and easy, but I just keep thinking of the horror stories I read when I thought about rooting my Q9m back in the day. That said it is very likely that once I root the Nook, I will end up rooting my phone. Baby steps
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I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
Thanks for the help all!
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I have had both (returned the tf101 due to a hw bug - not a fault of the transformers design, just a normal qa bug). The current nooo application now has everything. Even magazines, which I remember being absent when I triedthe nook android app a while ago.
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pros: $250.00 cons: $350.00
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dandunn98 said:
I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
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The stock nook reader can do the children's books (lots of animation and "read to me"), the Android app can't. Otherwise, for grownups, they're pretty much equivalent.
The Nook doesn't have a phone, cell network, camera, microphone, video out, or bluetooth with reasonable range. These are some of the reasons that the price is so good.
When you run CM7, it does have host-mode USB (albeit a little hacky at the moment).
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
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Booting CM7 off the SD is absolutely harmless, and very easy the third or fourth time you do it...
If the goal is to end up with a device that is good for reading books the Nook Color is a great solution. You might want to root it, very easy, and leave it running the stock OS. That will open up the NC to running apps and getting to the standard Market, but leaves the unit with the reader centric interface. I have mine this way and prefer that to a generic Android experience such as CM7. I usually prefer the bigger screen of the Transformer to the NC for general tasks like web browsing.
so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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p.s., how to i add my signature? i cant find it anywhere!
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couldn't find the signature under private messages
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so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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Stock is crap IMO. Its only good if your just going to be reading books. Cm7 makes this thing the best tablet for your money. It is crazy easy to install and you get the full android tablet experience for less than half the price of the big boys. Yes it is missing a camera and GPS but why would you ever need that on a tablet?
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And there is no market access on stock unless you root it.
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I have both and each has its place in my tablet world. I like the portability of the Nook and its gorgeous screen. The Transformer screen is equally impressive looking. Would highly recommend CM7 for Nook as others have suggested. When I need to use an app like Google Goggles, or other apps that use camera/video capabilities, the Transformer is the obvious choice and is quite capable. I have not yet had success with USB camera or headset with Nook but still have hope thanks to the devs continuing work. I have used GPS with both (using bluetooth GPS on the Nook). I use the Transformer as my "cell phone" now with my 3G mifi device (using the GrooVeIP app). I believe your household would enjoy having both.
With the nook app you have access to a lot less magazines because of liscense agreements. On the stock nook you have access to all magazine subscriptions like GQ and Vanity Fair.
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soo much good info so far. i'll have to investigate this CM7. don't know much about it at all
I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want. When it is stock, you can only buy from BN or borrow from your library.
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I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want.
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This all sounds great, and i like the SD card root you guys are talking about. I haven't rooted an android device before so it's new to me, and i know theres TONS of posts regarding it as well. I have jailbroken iphones/ipod touches so i know the concept of it all.
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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Please don't go there.
Rodney
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Please don't go there.
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understood. I'm all for giving credit to people for apps, and all. I just enjoy testing them before buying.
With the cost of most android programs being low, there should never be a reason to look at pirated software. The software development we have today is a testiment to the hard work of many talented developers who would not continue if their work was not appreciated.
The Nook color , like most any tablet/reader device, should be considered for purchase based on filling a specific need. For reading, I have not found another device that provides anything close to the experience of the nook. For less than $250.00, you have a color screen that rivals tablets costing 2-3 times the nook. The fact that the nook boots from an sd card allows you to have a full android experience while retaining the stock nook reader.
For those wishing to expand the stock nook, cm7 provides a rich android experience with multimedia and the (almost) entire android market for apps. The market is now "device aware" and will only allow download of apps compatable with the device.
As for USB use, I am using a logitech bluetooth keyboard to type this message and use USB host mode to connect my digital camera to the nook to transfer photos directly for better viewing.
If you require all the functions of a full tablet (camera, GPS, ect:.) The nook might not be for you but if it is a secondary device that you can use to enrich your life with it's many capabilities, you will not find a better value on the market.
I'll get off my soapbox now and let you get on with that nook purchase.
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With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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if you mean to "sideload" apps then yes
A few weeks ago Staples had a coupon for $100 off all tables, including the Asus Transformer. This week Target is giving a $100 gift card to anyone who purchases an Acer Iconia (effectively making the price $299). For just $50 more than the cost of a new Nook Color, it's a no-brainer to get the Honeycomb tablet.
Both of the deals mentioned above seem indicative of price drops in the Android tablet market. Anyone who missed out on the above deals, just wait, and you'll see more like them.
Greetings,
I recently just purchased some Nook HD+ tablets and am new to the Android platform. I have yet to open the Nooks. I have spent the past two nights reading here about how to root, sideload, and other similar topics. I have gathered a small bit of understanding from the readings in my free time but I am now ready to get serious and would like a few questions answered before I begin, just to help me grasp it all completely. Once, I have these few basic questions out of the way, then I'll really get into deciding on a route to take and see whats best for me. I understand some would rather say "read this" and just redirect me but if you post, for the sake of discussion please entertain my questions.
1) Does the B&N stock android software offer any advantages, even if only one, (specific app, or feature) over custom android software? Out the box is it like stock Android 4.0.3 with B&N overlay similar to *Sense or is it B&N software through and through like Fire OS?
2) I have seen two "groups" N2A and another which I forget at the moment, that offer pre-made image files for download or MicroSD cards for purchase. Are these all the same files no matter where they come from or are they unique? Are all variations of CyanogenMod or are they from the ground up different? What is the significance of using one over the other?
3) Lastly, is there a very plain (vanilla) stock Android 4.4.2 for Nook HD+ that would be like virtually getting it from Google themselves? I'm talking from bootscreen to features and functions. Or all roms will have some sort of custom "branding" in them?
Thank you for helping me get started. I am sure I'll have more questions as this thread develops. Again, I appreciate any kindness offered.
1. There are only a couple of advantages of the stock OS besides being very stable. You have access to the B&N store apps if you made prior purchases on other devices. But the biggest advantage for some users is the reader app. It is better and smoother than the Nook reader app for Android. Plus it will read children's interactive books and Nook for Android app will not. The OS is pretty much Android with a B&N interface overlaid and replacing Google's. I don't know how to compare to Sense or FireOS since I have never seen either. But some things are totally different than Google, for instance in settings there is no Enable Unknown Sources setting.
2. The pre-made images are exactly the same as you get here. The only differences are that they do the work for you and furnish the SD cards.
3. There are several ROMs here that tweak the interface, but most are just variations of CM. You will have to research them yourself.
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So far so good...
Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?
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Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?
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For the first two questions, no and no.
Yes if you look at the dummies guide linked in my signature there are directions there for installing to internal memory. But even if you install to SD it is pretty stable and the part of the SD not used for the operating system is available for storage. There is really no difference on battery or lag. And your warranty is intact. Just pop out the card and stock is not affected. That said, I use CM10.1.3 on internal memory and love it.
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Almost done...
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?
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If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?
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First questions. Yes and yes.
And I don't known what you mean by non-existent. All files can be seen with root file managers.
And yes old slower cards are still best. But you can try that extreme and see how it works.
And all replacement ROMs show the 'cyanoboot' logo on booting if that is what you mean (the Nook has a locked bootloader so 'nook' always shows too). No pure vanilla. And 4.4.2 is still too cutting edge in my view. Stick with 4.2 (CM10.1) or 4.3 (CM10.2) .
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I truly appreciate the chat...
Thanks,
When I get home today, I'm going to update the Nook HD+ using your guide in the signature. It all seems relatively straightforward. I'll comeback to post my conclusions and any further questions I may have. But thank you.
Charged up...
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?
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Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?
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No, as long as you registration it with B&N before you put CM on it, it does not matter what version you had on it. I don't believe it, but others have commented that it gets harder to boot from SD once you have put 2.2.0 on it.
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Got it..
Thanks.
Universal root...
In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.
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In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.
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Rev0 is outdated and not even available anymore. But you don't need to root at all to just to enable unknown sources. Just flash the zip. Root is not necessary.
BTW, what guide are you talking about? The Dummies Guide does not mention Universal Root. Do you mean my HD/HD+ CWM thread?
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Update and some questions...lol
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?
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So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?
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You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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Sorry about that...
leapinlar said:
You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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I'm working on two separate tablets... I kept one stock and the other CM.
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So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.
ecsjr said:
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.
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Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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leapinlar said:
Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.
ecsjr said:
Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.
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Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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leapinlar said:
Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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My first complete backup and wipe for the CM10.2.1 tablet isn't mine and I will no longer need that full CM10.2.1 setup. However I did use that card to flash the zip on the Stock B&N because I felt it was easier to follow your instructions that way... Now for future reference, I do have a small 2GB card I wanted to use following this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 method under "1a" to make a small CWM to simply flash the Stock B&N in the future. Is this possible? Or does it always have to be 4GB?
Is there any reason to NOT get the Nook version if I've found one at a good price?
Are the Nook Apps just additions that can be uninstalled?
Can I just root and load a standard S2's ROM?
davidzvi said:
Is there any reason to NOT get the Nook version if I've found one at a good price?
Are the Nook Apps just additions that can be uninstalled?
Can I just root and load a standard S2's ROM?
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I have the Nook Edition and don't have any complaints. All Nook apps can be disabled, but take up ~475 mb.
If you use the Nook app, and plan to read a lot, I see no reason not to get it.
I have not rooted mine, and don't intend to. Everything I want to do I don't need root anymore.
Hope this helps.
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