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Got the BN update today and would like to know how to get apps like astro, market, etc to work without rooting. Since it is now 2.2 shouldn't they just load without rooting? Yea, I'm a noobie and tech challenged.
Thanks,
Mike
It doesn't install apks...
So, rooting is the only way around it?
lazinase said:
It doesn't install apks...
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carheir said:
So, rooting is the only way around it?
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Correct. Unless the apps are in B&N market then the only other way at this time is rooting.
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I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.
iamtimmah said:
I would like to know as well. I reverted from CM7 to stock, to upgrade to 1.2 and while I do appreciate the stock feel of my NC. I would like to have the full android market.
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It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).
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It will almost certainly be rooted with time. You'll have to have patience until then (or go back to CM7 for now).
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My understanding is that EVEN rooting won't allow access to the market.
Based on some threads here, it seems B&N have blocked market access fundamentally in the code, so while we can get admin rights we cannot install google apps or other market apps after rooting. (I may be wrong though..)
So it seems that Froyo/CM7 is the way to go for now, for those who want the full tablet functionality. The only problem with that is the B&N nook market reader app sucks compared to stock and there is no way of porting the stock reader into those ROMs.
not sure how B&N would do that, i mean with root access we have the ability to change anything. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Even if this is true, I'm sure SOMEONE out there will find a work around.
What do we need the Market for (It's preferred I know, and to access previously purchased apps) if we can use the Amazon Appstore?
I don't think you'd be able to use the Amazon app store, either, if what they say is true.
So I want to use my Nook as an ereader but I also want to use it as a tablet. I quite like the ebook reader on the stock firmware but if there's a standalone app that's just as good I wouldn't see a reason to not use CM7. I guess my real question is should I use the stock firmware to have the best ereading experience I've had and have it rooted to run different apps or use CM7 with some other ereading app that will give me good experience reading while being a "full" Android tablet?
The Nook App with CM7 is really a nice experience. I, for one, really dig the page turn animations on the Nook App.
dsf3g said:
The Nook App with CM7 is really a nice experience. I, for one, really dig the page turn animations on the Nook App.
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It's a nice experience but it still has it's bugs and serious ones at that. You have to be prepared for occasional freezes.
use CM7 off a SD card...That is what I do and it works really well. I like the stock nook for reading, looking at color mags and for going into BN store to read the freebies...
jacjar1 said:
use CM7 off a SD card...That is what I do and it works really well. I like the stock nook for reading, looking at color mags and for going into BN store to read the freebies...
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I finally surrendered with the CM7 on SD, a few bothersome bugs; I went with the rooted Ver 1.2.0 which gives me the advantages of stock and lots of enhancements, and the battery lasts longer too.
jim
Running Phirrmod 6.2 with Nook app and have no issues.Page turn animations actually work unlike the stock reader.In my opinion this is by far the most stable rom for the Nook.Reading,games,Netflix & movies.No force closes or freezes.
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I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
Thanks for the help all!
p.s., how to i add my signature? i cant find it anywhere!
I have had both (returned the tf101 due to a hw bug - not a fault of the transformers design, just a normal qa bug). The current nooo application now has everything. Even magazines, which I remember being absent when I triedthe nook android app a while ago.
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pros: $250.00 cons: $350.00
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dandunn98 said:
I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
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The stock nook reader can do the children's books (lots of animation and "read to me"), the Android app can't. Otherwise, for grownups, they're pretty much equivalent.
The Nook doesn't have a phone, cell network, camera, microphone, video out, or bluetooth with reasonable range. These are some of the reasons that the price is so good.
When you run CM7, it does have host-mode USB (albeit a little hacky at the moment).
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
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Booting CM7 off the SD is absolutely harmless, and very easy the third or fourth time you do it...
If the goal is to end up with a device that is good for reading books the Nook Color is a great solution. You might want to root it, very easy, and leave it running the stock OS. That will open up the NC to running apps and getting to the standard Market, but leaves the unit with the reader centric interface. I have mine this way and prefer that to a generic Android experience such as CM7. I usually prefer the bigger screen of the Transformer to the NC for general tasks like web browsing.
so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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p.s., how to i add my signature? i cant find it anywhere!
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couldn't find the signature under private messages
dandunn98 said:
so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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Stock is crap IMO. Its only good if your just going to be reading books. Cm7 makes this thing the best tablet for your money. It is crazy easy to install and you get the full android tablet experience for less than half the price of the big boys. Yes it is missing a camera and GPS but why would you ever need that on a tablet?
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And there is no market access on stock unless you root it.
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I have both and each has its place in my tablet world. I like the portability of the Nook and its gorgeous screen. The Transformer screen is equally impressive looking. Would highly recommend CM7 for Nook as others have suggested. When I need to use an app like Google Goggles, or other apps that use camera/video capabilities, the Transformer is the obvious choice and is quite capable. I have not yet had success with USB camera or headset with Nook but still have hope thanks to the devs continuing work. I have used GPS with both (using bluetooth GPS on the Nook). I use the Transformer as my "cell phone" now with my 3G mifi device (using the GrooVeIP app). I believe your household would enjoy having both.
With the nook app you have access to a lot less magazines because of liscense agreements. On the stock nook you have access to all magazine subscriptions like GQ and Vanity Fair.
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soo much good info so far. i'll have to investigate this CM7. don't know much about it at all
I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want. When it is stock, you can only buy from BN or borrow from your library.
advocate2 said:
I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want.
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This all sounds great, and i like the SD card root you guys are talking about. I haven't rooted an android device before so it's new to me, and i know theres TONS of posts regarding it as well. I have jailbroken iphones/ipod touches so i know the concept of it all.
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
dandunn98 said:
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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Please don't go there.
Rodney
rhester72 said:
Please don't go there.
Rodney
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understood. I'm all for giving credit to people for apps, and all. I just enjoy testing them before buying.
With the cost of most android programs being low, there should never be a reason to look at pirated software. The software development we have today is a testiment to the hard work of many talented developers who would not continue if their work was not appreciated.
The Nook color , like most any tablet/reader device, should be considered for purchase based on filling a specific need. For reading, I have not found another device that provides anything close to the experience of the nook. For less than $250.00, you have a color screen that rivals tablets costing 2-3 times the nook. The fact that the nook boots from an sd card allows you to have a full android experience while retaining the stock nook reader.
For those wishing to expand the stock nook, cm7 provides a rich android experience with multimedia and the (almost) entire android market for apps. The market is now "device aware" and will only allow download of apps compatable with the device.
As for USB use, I am using a logitech bluetooth keyboard to type this message and use USB host mode to connect my digital camera to the nook to transfer photos directly for better viewing.
If you require all the functions of a full tablet (camera, GPS, ect:.) The nook might not be for you but if it is a secondary device that you can use to enrich your life with it's many capabilities, you will not find a better value on the market.
I'll get off my soapbox now and let you get on with that nook purchase.
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dandunn98 said:
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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if you mean to "sideload" apps then yes
A few weeks ago Staples had a coupon for $100 off all tables, including the Asus Transformer. This week Target is giving a $100 gift card to anyone who purchases an Acer Iconia (effectively making the price $299). For just $50 more than the cost of a new Nook Color, it's a no-brainer to get the Honeycomb tablet.
Both of the deals mentioned above seem indicative of price drops in the Android tablet market. Anyone who missed out on the above deals, just wait, and you'll see more like them.
i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys
Rooting by someone()'s All-in-one at the Nook HD, HD+ General section works great for me as it is very easy. The HD+ still works like the original and at the same time can use apps from Play Store (or side load). Only if you want B&N updates it could mean losing your root, but as someone() disabled automatic updates you can wait with updating until others have checked the effects of the updates.
Getting ADB working is the most difficult part. I already had a so called 8bootloop, restoring the original software after experimenting a bit too much, but within half an hour I got it all working again. B&N profiles were updated after logging in, even the profile I already made for my daughter was available. Just my view, more experience users may correct me.
gorelow said:
i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys
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Do you mean Nook Tablets or Nook HD or HD+? They are different devices.
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If all you are looking for is apps, you can side load without rooting, just load on your machine then adb install. I find s lot of free apps don't even show up for tablet, but I copy over from my phone and adb install them, usually without problem
Ps, you can also load a different launcher of course....
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i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
gorelow said:
i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
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Yep we are all hd folk here, can't speak to the tablet, but so far the ota hasn't borked us. And once adb is working, you can side load anything as long as it doesn't touch /system. Including a launcher which is highly recommended since the b&n launcher won't show all the apps easily.
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gorelow said:
i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
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If you can get ADB working on your nook tablet you should be able to sideload apps without rooting. And they should be safe if B&N sends an update to the ROM. But you might get better advice by posting in the Nook Tablet forum. Users there know more about the Tablet.
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leapinlar said:
If you can get ADB working on your nook tablet you should be able to sideload apps without rooting. And they should be safe if B&N sends an update to the ROM. But you might get better advice by posting in the Nook Tablet forum. Users there know more about the Tablet.
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sorry didnt realize tis wasnt the reg nook forum thanks
Has anyone installed the non-Nook version of MM on their Nook tablet. I really don't care about the Nook specific app links. I pretty much quit buying their overpriced e-books anyways. If so, what version did you use and have you had any problems with it?
Well, since the devices are identical, just flash the latest T710 tar from Sammobile using Odin. The nook version is literally a T710 with some software tweaks.
I first installed the UK version of MM found in a separate post here. Later, when the US version became available I installed that. You lose the Nook page when you scroll left on the home screen but nothing else seemed to change- NO APPS are lost in the process, the Current Read app remains too. hth
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Has anyone installed the non-Nook version of MM on their Nook tablet. I really don't care about the Nook specific app links. I pretty much quit buying their overpriced e-books anyways. If so, what version did you use and have you had any problems with it?
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I did, it works good. All apps/data is retained. Just loose the Nook boot animation, and the shortcut for Nook library.
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