[Q] Conversation about ROOTing and flasging Cognition - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys.
I am a Captivate owner and am EXTREMELY fed up with both the delay of the Froyo update AND the lag problems with the Captivate firmware. The phone has so much horsepower and great specs, but right now it is being under utilized. I have done my research, watched a bunch of videos and am literally teetering on the edge of ROOTing my phone and flashing the new Cognition 3.02 ROM (which seems to be stable, speedy, and everything else I wish my stock firmware was). I think I know all the details, and have taken lots of notes on the process, but I think the one last thing I'd really like to do before taking the dive is to talk to someone who has flashed the Cognition ROM, one-on-one in a live manner through ICQ, Skype, AIM, or whathaveyou, just to have my remaining questions and concerns resolved.
So, if there is anyone out there who is willing to take the time to chat with me some night this week and just make sure I get everything in my mind squared away, I would greatly appreciate it.
Direct message or reply to this post if you'd like to help out, and we can go from there discussing a time, day, and method for executing this chat. Thanks a million--I want to be a ROOTer so bad, I'm still just a little nervous.
And thanks to DG for creating such an (apparently) stable, reliable, and featured-filled ROM.

What the hell does this have to do with development? Take it to the right section and learn to respect rules and directions first.
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Wow, way to be rude.
Clearly my first post on XDA. This is where everyone is talking about all the ROMs, and that si what my question is about. Sorry if I disrespected the rules or whatever, but there is a less stuck-up-geek-jerk way to tell me that.

kppanic said:
What the hell does this have to do with development? Take it to the right section and learn to respect rules and directions first.
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[Q] HTC HERO PLEASE HELP with obtaining 2.2 software

My sprint hero is running 2.1, freezes all the time and my girl friends is even worse, I need help to update to 2.2 and some good instructions on where to download and how to install
THANKS SOO MUCH!!!
Scott
Root your phone and try one of the many 2.1 or the 2.2 froyo AOSP ROM (no sense). If you root though I bet you find that 2.1 runs a LOT better. There are two guides to rooting. Search here and you shall find. Sorry, I dont have the links handy
smolck said:
Root your phone and try one of the many 2.1 or the 2.2 froyo AOSP ROM (no sense). If you root though I bet you find that 2.1 runs a LOT better. There are two guides to rooting. Search here and you shall find. Sorry, I dont have the links handy
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Here ya go a fine start http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
May I suggest this ROM when your fully rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795 <--Kicks butt and you get 2.2 features!!
I guess I'll be the jerk today
Welcome to XDA! Let me also help you more by telling you that using "Search" here in these forums, or even just reading the bolded titles of threads, will get you the answers to a lot of your questions. Some posts are "stickied" at the top of each forum for a reason...it means they are important and have lots of useful information in them. Had you done just a little bit of reading and searching, you would have easily found the "good instructions" you have requested without having to create a whole new thread. Also know that questions like this should go in the "Q&A" forum.
The link in the post above is good for rooting. And here's Android 2.2, with instructions in the FIRST post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
Good luck.
chromiumleaf said:
I guess I'll be the jerk today
Welcome to XDA! Let me also help you more by telling you that using "Search" here in these forums, or even just reading the bolded titles of threads, will get you the answers to a lot of your questions. Some posts are "stickied" at the top of each forum for a reason...it means they are important and have lots of useful information in them. Had you done just a little bit of reading and searching, you would have easily found the "good instructions" you have requested without having to create a whole new thread. Also know that questions like this should go in the "Q&A" forum.
The link in the post above is good for rooting. And here's Android 2.2, with instructions in the FIRST post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
Good luck.
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Your absolutely right. You were a jerk. Do you own these forums? If you don't want to help a newbie out don't read his her post. Too many children trolling these forums. People need to grow up. These forums are about helping one another.
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rejectedkid said:
Your absolutely right. You were a jerk. Do you own these forums? If you don't want to help a newbie out don't read his her post. Too many children trolling these forums. People need to grow up. These forums are about helping one another.
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Yes, point taken, I could and should have been a bit gentler in that previous post. I was merely pointing out that any newbies already have all the help they need in this forum -- that's what Search is for, and why the titles of most threads are so specific and detailed. The answers are out there. So I do apologize for the perceived harshness that was unnecessary on my part. You also didn't see that I did indeed help this user over several PMs after I posted that earlier, but that still doesn't justify my lack of gentleness.
Awful metaphor, but it fits pretty well: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish, feed him for a lifetime." Yes I know that was terrible
Even worse: " Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day, set the man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life."
I think your first post was gentle enough.
As for the topic at hand. Try just rooting and removing the bloatware and using a decent task manager or auto killer. I think the jump to aosp should be somethinng for later.
I feel the newbie love in the air
rejectedkid said:
Your absolutely right. You were a jerk. Do you own these forums? If you don't want to help a newbie out don't read his her post. Too many children trolling these forums. People need to grow up. These forums are about helping one another.
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How the hell was he a jerk???
These forums are for helping each other, but people still need to search and read, or it makes it harder to help the people who already did so!

[Q] Is it just me?

Is it just me or is the lack of Froyo turning some people on this forum into total dicks? The flaming, ASCII text, FFS comments, etc. Is it past your bed time? Is it you're taking your home or job stress out on other people? Grow up and be considerate of people once in a while.
I spent a year on the Incite forum; it wasn't as bad. Then I spent 6 months on the Pure forum and still didn't see this type of abuse. I read the whole congition forum before jumping and didn't see it this bad. It's just here in the general section. Something about this forum, phone or android is making its users very sour!
People ask for help or fire off questions without due process. Deal with it! Some people search better than others and some people don't empower themselves at all and just fire off questions before letting them sink in. I've been doing tech support for over a decade and know people come in all types. That's why we have Call in, KB's, Forums, Email, WebEx, etc... For modifying your phone or voiding your warranty; we have forums so accept everyone as they come. You stop posting your dumb ass comments and it will filter into the older pages. A simple already posted or subtle link to something already posted is more than sufficient.
It's just you.
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It's just you. The forum has been very helpful to me.
People flame you if you ask something stupid or obvious. "Deal with it!!"
Edit: Added quotations.
Just you.
If you search from the top level of the captivate forums it searches all sub forums. Your the one with all the exclamation points. If you work in a tech support field, you should really have thicker skin then you are demonstrating.
Moved to Q&A.
Also toning the language down in the first post a tad wouldn't hurt. You can get the same point across without being quite so confrontational.
People can be dicks about it..but they have every right to be when one someone asked a question that has been asked 20 times already,sometimes just 1 or 2 post back from where the question is asked. I understand people get in a hurry..don't read the instructions..the dog ate their homework..but come-on..
Mac
+1 For It's Just You.
Every forum has factions that are smart asses or outright asses.
For the most part this forum is great and extremely helpful and i don't see any different tenor here than any other forum i have frequented.
+ a majority of people here have already been running froyo for sometime....so there is no lack.
+1 for its just u. I found this forum very helpful.
Edit: I never so far had to wait for even a couple hours before someone answered any question/request I posted here..
Wow.... That's all I'm saying...
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XDA >>>> androidforums.com
All I ever read on androidforums are people crying about when Froyo is released. ATT this, Samsung that, no Froyo cryyyyyy. And then none of them will flash a leaked Froyo build. It's like they are all so excited for the OTA to come full of AT&T apps which they'll just try and remove anyway.
It must be me.
The votes are in. It's just me
norcal einstein said:
XDA >>>> androidforums.com
All I ever read on androidforums are people crying about when Froyo is released. ATT this, Samsung that, no Froyo cryyyyyy. And then none of them will flash a leaked Froyo build. It's like they are all so excited for the OTA to come full of AT&T apps which they'll just try and remove anyway.
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To be fair, I do expect the official build to fix a lot of bugs we're having with the leaked roms, so I can see why people would be waiting for the official release. There's a whole thread in the general section about froyo problems, most of which haven't been resolved in the custom roms.
shawnl01 said:
The votes are in. It's just me
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lol... even still, i feel ya though.
When I first got my captivate I stumbled onto some Evo forums and thought that some of the conversations where quite a bit nastier than here. I was very pleased and thankful that I didn't have to deal with that while trying to decipher the unwritten language that seems to be somewhat unique to each Android device (which, IMO makes it hard to search for items with unfamiliar concepts or procedures and why we have people asking the same questions over and over... you know, besides just being lazy).
But I definitely don't think that's not as true anymore. It won't stop my addiction to reading, learning, and flashing new roms and kernels though!

[Q] CyanogenMod

Is there a working CyanogenMod rom for the facsinate, I've read some post but just want a yes or no answer please?
Not totally working.
and.... wrong section.
go look at the cm7 thread in the development section. it makes it very clear what is working and what isnt.
Short answer: A lot of stuff in CM7 works. Somethings such as MMS do not. Whether you consider that build working depends on your needs.
Now, I don't say this to be mean. I say this to prevent you from numerous headaches and issues.
Basic reading comprehension and a willingness to search and research independently are required if you are going to successfully flash new software on your phone. That is to say little about bleeding edge Cyanogen which has its own set of eccentricities currently. If you don't have the time or patience to have those qualities then you should skip this process because you WILL end up with a "brick".
Again, I don't say this to be mean or cold-hearted. It is simply fact that if you aren't willing to invest the time to be painstaking in your steps and research that you will end up with a brick and very unhappy. Sorry to be a downer.
bobloblaw1 said:
Short answer: A lot of stuff in CM7 works. Somethings such as MMS do not. Whether you consider that build working depends on your needs.
Now, I don't say this to be mean. I say this to prevent you from numerous headaches and issues.
Basic reading comprehension and a willingness to search and research independently are required if you are going to successfully flash new software on your phone. That is to say little about bleeding edge Cyanogen which has its own set of eccentricities currently. If you don't have the time or patience to have those qualities then you should skip this process because you WILL end up with a "brick".
Again, I don't say this to be mean or cold-hearted. It is simply fact that if you aren't willing to invest the time to be painstaking in your steps and research that you will end up with a brick and very unhappy. Sorry to be a downer.
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Hate to be a downer but its not really any different than installing another rom. Not that doing your own research is a bad thing but you seem like you're trying to frighten people. This phone does not brick easily. The only difference here with cm7 is that you have to odin to get off it.
Sent from my kang banged fascinate, bro.
A person who can't take 30 seconds and read the first post in either of the two cyanogenmod threads and has to ask needs a dose of reality.
And yes, the phone is quite recoverable but only if you know what you are doing. We have seen enough of the "i've spent the last 12 hours trying to recover my phone because I flashed xyz incorrectly" to warrant some caution.
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Why so grouchy?
At least the question wasn't posted in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116424
That is where the info for the closest-to-pure CM7 ROM there is on the site.
WARNING: If you don't like it or it happens to brick your phone, you will need odin and a good working image to go back to. These are available on the site. I strongly recommend you find them and familiarize yourself on the how-to of those before embarking down the road of CM7.
I ran TestBuild2 from the above link for sever days. It is nice but has too many stability defects to be reasonable for me because I use my phone for work.
stfu noob, reed some of the forum first
mikefrost702 said:
stfu noob, reed some of the forum first
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Really unnecessary from someone who.never posted before or anyone for that matter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038478 'nuff said.
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IM the biggest noob

Hey gsuys i was wondering if anyone knows a video on youtube that shows exactly installing a Tom? Also can someone please tell me what a bootloader and a kernel is? I've been researching but i can't find anything since im a noob..
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I think you mean a ROM. Bootloaders are files which load other data and programs which are then executed from RAM. Often, multiple-stage boot loaders are used, during which several programs of increasing complexity sequentially load one after the other in a process of chain loading.
As far as Android is concerned, the kernel file is related to threading and memory management. It's sort of the map of the infrastructure that helps the other programs when and how to act and manage the resources.
For your own sake, take a week or two to do some reading and get familiar with the terminology, software, and processes involved with flashing a ROM. I can promise you that without some basic slef-taught information, you will end up bricking the hardware 75% of the time. Get to understand how the phone works and why other people have problems, and how they solved them. Don't make mistakes that others have made when the information on how to avoid it is here in the forums.
Many people are too impatient or uninterested in how these phones work to do the due diligence. You can find ROM flashing guides, but without some basic knowledge, if something goes wrong you will find yourself in panic mode. Just look through these forums. Half of them start with 'HELP!' or 'Phone Bricked'. Don't be one of them. Arm yourself with some information and you will soon be solving your own problems, and possibly helping others.
Good luck and have fun. The Captivate is one of the most moddable smartphones out there, you have already made a good decision. Don't stop now!
see that wasnt hard to ask without a subtle insult. mobiletechvideos has plenty of install tuts for 2.2 and 2.3.3 based roms. stick with 2.2 roms to lessen the chance of a perma brick
Listen to clemmie.
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CremeFraiche said:
see that wasnt hard to ask without a subtle insult. mobiletechvideos has plenty of install tuts for 2.2 and 2.3.3 based roms. stick with 2.2 roms to lessen the chance of a perma brick
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+1 on josh @ mobile tech videos. That site was 85% of the research I did on my first flash. The other 15% was asking courteous questions to the great people on this forum.
Agreed on sticking with 2.2 ROM at first, less chance of hard brick and they are very stable.
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esteban836 said:
Also can someone please tell me what a bootloader and a kernel is?
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Check THIS out!
CremeFraiche said:
see that wasnt hard to ask without a subtle insult. mobiletechvideos has plenty of install tuts for 2.2 and 2.3.3 based roms. stick with 2.2 roms to lessen the chance of a perma brick
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I second, third, and fourth, the Mobiltech videos for the cappy. They should be mandatory for every noob to watch.
axis01 said:
I second, third, and fourth, the Mobiltech videos for the cappy. They should be mandatory for every noob to watch.
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Whats wrong with reading forums of the rom before hand? Don't get me wrong I've used videos (my very first flash and my first GB rom) but I had done a good reading before hand. I had a decent idea on what I had to do before watching videos. =/
prbassplayer said:
Whats wrong with reading forums of the rom before hand? Don't get me wrong I've used videos (my very first flash and my first GB rom) but I had done a good reading before hand. I had a decent idea on what I had to do before watching videos. =/
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I don't think theirs anything wrong with reading up in the forums, its just a lot more easier on newcomers to watch the videos so they have something to look at step by step and if they want to they can go back and watch different parts over and over =] well at least that's how I see it lol
MonoControl said:
I don't think theirs anything wrong with reading up in the forums, its just a lot more easier on newcomers to watch the videos so they have something to look at step by step and if they want to they can go back and watch different parts over and over =] well at least that's how I see it lol
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I understand you but I feel like op hasn't read anything about flashing or the risk of it. Don't know feel like he trying to take shortcuts and is going to end up bricking his phone. Hope I'm wrong though.
MonoControl said:
I don't think theirs anything wrong with reading up in the forums, its just a lot more easier on newcomers to watch the videos so they have something to look at step by step and if they want to they can go back and watch different parts over and over =] well at least that's how I see it lol
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+1
When I flashed my first ROM, I had read quite a bit on here, but I watched one of Josh's videos and paused at about every step! Bottom line here is, everyone is different and some people are "visual" learners. Having said that, I agree whole heartedly with the "read twice flash once" (then follow a vid if ya have to) mentality.
Of course, the videos are very good and simplify things immensely. However, what the videos do not show you often times is how to avoid mistakes and errors and how to fix them if you make them. This is why it is always a good idea to read through the thread of the kernel or ROM or what have you to see what has gone wrong for others. It can seem daunting to try to read through a 20+ page thread, which may take an hour, but that hour might save you 4 or more hours while trying to recover from a brick or failed flash. Add to that some peace of mind because perhaps you've seen or read about the same issue and can do some problem solving.
Both are helpful, but reading threads is essential.

[Q] can anyone gimme ics rom and blackrose for nexus one

can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
darknecro98 said:
can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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First of all, I am going to assume (perhaps wrongly) that you are 14 years-old (from your user name), and believe me when I tell you: I know that age is hard, and I know because I've been there, however, no matter how hard it was for me I knew that if I dared asking my mother what a word meant, I'd get immediate attention and instructions to f-off and check up on a dictionary (there was no wikipedia nor google back then) and that no-one else was going to do for me what I didn't do by myself, it is with such background that I want to tell you something:
Last saturday I decided to try ICS on my N1, I had no idea where to start since it had been over 8 months when I last did anything to my phone. Still it took me 25 minutes to not only find the right thread, read it, understand it, download the stuff I needed, and read again to make sure I am not doing something dumb, it also was enough time to actually do the whole process.
Now, considering you already found your way into XDA-Developers and you know how to read threads and know how to post questions, I'd say you have wasted approximately 1 hour thinking somebody is actually going to give you the ROM for ICS and Blackrose, let alone baby-walk you through the process.
I am going to assume that most devs are ignoring this thread (and rightly so) as well as most respected members (and I'd like to consider myself a quiet, self-respected member) but still, I do believe its good to take a bit of time from everyday routine to let someone else know "hey! you are doing it wrong" and hopefully get into that person's head and make that little switch go click.
If after all of this you still feel entitled to have someone hand you over a couple of files, please by all means head over to this location: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Thanks and have a great life!
srry im very new here and i couldnt get my way around and ive been checking for hours on the files for ics on the N1 and had nothing but thanks for ur reply
as i said, again im extremely new to all of this and i dont know how to put ROMs in the phone and how to just do any of this if anyone can just give me something from where i can start i will be gladly appreciated
See, now that is different and worth of paying at least a little bit of attention. However I don't believe you have spent hours without making some sense of anything, at least you know about ICS and Blackrose, you may have a rough idea of what you want to accomplish, and so I'll point you in the right direction by telling you to look for the very first thread on the android development forum for nexus one, the one referring to the wiki and to now read it instead of skipping it as you probably did the first time. I'm sure if you read through it you'll understand the basics and will be able to figure it out really soon.
Good luck.
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Dnt be discouraged...everyone was once a noob. Just as the above user said check out texasice ics and bcm ics.we will help u in every way..read the forums and POSTs ...not just the first and 2nd..
thank you for the reply and i will check the first android development on the n1 and go step by step understanding everything
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Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
Thanks ✟
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darknecro98 said:
can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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I use this one in my (now replaced by SGS3) nexus one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897
You should read the instructions carefully, the process involves a few steps...
Note that there are 2 o 3 ICS ROMs for Nexus One, and they all have some glitches (USB tethering, camera, SoDs) but they are quite usable.

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