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Lagfix and longterm consequences

What are the lagfixes longterm consequences? I've herd some unsettling things about it...ranging from bricked phone to catching on fire and exploding,
Now I'm asking since I'm planing to get this or the desireHd and frankly sacred the crap outta me.And since theres like a 80% chance I'm gonna have the lag if I buy it I have to know what are the risks , is it like the regular danger of rooting or something much worse?
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I no longer would recommend the i9000m to people just to many Force Close problems. The phone is unreliable because of the Force Close errors. I was locked out side waited for my phone to boot so I could check a friends buzzer code. I had to put my phone in recovery mode and do a factory reset and lose all my un-backed up personal data on the note pad. That was a big Epic Fail moment for my phone. As much as I hate apple and Itunes at least it works when i needed my Iphone.

Lol, it won't make it catch on fire. If anything it might brick your phone, which wouldn't be a severe brick, easy to recover from using Odin. I reckon the chances of anything going wrong are really low.

4u2nvinmtl said:
I no longer would recommend the i9000m to people just to many Force Close problems.
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Must be something screwed up on your phone because I get no force close errors.
I don't believe there's any real harm using a lagfix. All it does is use a different filesystem, which is actually proven, fast, and reliable, unlike Samsung's own RFS system which seems to be pure crap.
I'm using z4mod. So far is seems reliable and performance is amazing
LOL at "catching on fire and exploding". Whoever you heard that from should lose all credibility if they were serious when saying that

Generally it shouldn't do any HW damage, i.e. NAND wear down, since RFS (as it was mentioned) is pure crap, based on FAT as rumor has it. I believe that each lagFix that uses variations of ext fs will in fact span NAND life.
As for catching fire, etc. This happens on other devices also and more faulty hardware rather than OS problem, so installing lag fix has in my opinion only advantages.
(Well and a hindrance since if you change firmwares often the you need to uninstall the lag fix).

That took a load of mind ...kinda
Hey did you guys ever do a poll how much people are satisfied(or not) with sgs/lag/gps/general problems?
Like I said I want to buy this (samoled FTW) but I'm concerned about all these problems.
If you go to the hero forum lots of people are reporting a craploads of problems which I never had (seriously haven't had an issue since I bought it )
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Just read some spanish forum about how the phone currupts every 4 or so weeks is that true? Imean i dont wanna have to restore every month.
I can just imagine my wife saying: Whatchu doin hunny? Ahh nothing dear, its just that day of the month i have to restore my phone XDD

calexus1182 said:
That took a load of mind ...kinda
Hey did you guys ever do a poll how much people are satisfied(or not) with sgs/lag/gps/general problems?
Like I said I want to buy this (samoled FTW) but I'm concerned about all these problems.
If you go to the hero forum lots of people are reporting a craploads of problems which I never had (seriously haven't had an issue since I bought it )
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Maybe not polled as to say, but if you take in consideration that 5 millions+ units where sold, it's not that big of a number. Frankly, I think the "Plus" outwieght the "cons" largely.
Just don't get it "used" and be sure you can exchange / service it if needed, kinda sucks that you'd spend hundreds without any safe net! But that goes for about anything!

True but still...
And is it 5million excluding the fascinate/captivate/epic variants?
I don't like to buy used , in my experience there's always something the seller isn't telling and will comeback to bite you on the ass.
But about my previous question...is the vodoo fix harmful and is the thing about it corrupting data true?
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CM7. Worth it?

I have had my cappy since release and have been flashing roms since. I'm some what of a techie so I have had no issue with the process and feel comfortable flashing CM7, but is it worth it. Should I wait or indulge myself? Thanks for the input.
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Personally I think you should go ahead and try it. It's by far the best rom I have ever ran and don't plan to go back to other roms for a long time if at all. It just runs so smoothly and just has an overall good feel to it. As far as everything is working for me it is very stable and usable no real issues that matter after the most recent update so I absolutely love it

It's worth it to try it. Just try it and see if it fits your tastes.
And if you don't like it, it's worth it to flash back to stock
I tried it and liked it, I just know that the CM7 team is going to be pushing out bigger and better things... It's just a matter of when. So for now, I'm sticking with Cog 4.1 and a custom kernel.

Thanks for the input guys. I think I'm going to give it another week and sed what else they release then I'm going for it!
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Make sure you know what works and what doesn't and if that's important to you. I know HD video doesn't and that might be a minor/non issue to those who say CM7 is great and works flawlessly for them. You have to apply your own criteria because someone elses may be far different from yours.

Miami_Son said:
Make sure you know what works and what doesn't and if that's important to you. I know HD video doesn't and that might be a minor/non issue to those who say CM7 is great and works flawlessly for them. You have to apply your own criteria because someone elses may be far different from yours.
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Seems you have made it a personal crusade out of warning people of the inherent dangers of CM7. Anytime someone asks any questions there you are. I don't think I've heard anyone including myself say that the rom is flawless but I could make a long list of bugs from every rom that has ever been released for the Captivate. Hell, I remember when DG put out Cog based on the 10/10 leak and he was pushing updates almost every night to fix things.

Known Bugs
Front Facing-Camera (Obviously, as our Cappys don't have Front-Facing Cameras)
Polling problem on RIL (works after lock and unlock)
2G/3G toggle (works if no data connection is active)
Compass (works not at 100%)
USB sharing of external SD-Card
commands: reboot recovery, reboot download (maybe not possible to implement)
FM-Radio
TV-Out
If you're fine with the above, I actually think it's really stable for a Beta. It's up to you The process is a bit hard to do than a normal ROM though.

Roof King said:
Seems you have made it a personal crusade out of warning people of the inherent dangers of CM7. Anytime someone asks any questions there you are. I don't think I've heard anyone including myself say that the rom is flawless but I could make a long list of bugs from every rom that has ever been released for the Captivate. Hell, I remember when DG put out Cog based on the 10/10 leak and he was pushing updates almost every night to fix things.
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I could point you to a dozen posts where users of CM7 either downplayed the issues or claimed it was running flawlessly on their Cappy. I can also point you to as many posts of people who screwed up the install or had other issues with it. Both get pretty tiresome.
This thread is no different than asking which ROM is best and should be closed just like those are. It really is a personal preference. At the least, it should have been asked in the CM7 sticky, that's what they're here for.

Roof King said:
Seems you have made it a personal crusade out of warning people of the inherent dangers of CM7. Anytime someone asks any questions there you are. I don't think I've heard anyone including myself say that the rom is flawless but I could make a long list of bugs from every rom that has ever been released for the Captivate. Hell, I remember when DG put out Cog based on the 10/10 leak and he was pushing updates almost every night to fix things.
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It seems he is on a crusader against a lot of things. The eternal pessimist
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Miami_Son said:
I could point you to a dozen posts where users of CM7 either downplayed the issues or claimed it was running flawlessly on their Cappy. I can also point you to as many posts of people who screwed up the install or had other issues with it. Both get pretty tiresome.
This thread is no different than asking which ROM is best and should be closed just like those are. It really is a personal preference. At the least, it should have been asked in the CM7 sticky, that's what they're here for.
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Lets be fair, there have been tons of threads because someone bricked their phone flashing cognition, serendipity, etc. I have helped some that have soft bricked their phone just trying to root.
There have been hundreds of threads because of odin soft bricks.
I am on two weeks with it on my phone. the issues that exist, if you read, are all avoidable. I am not "claiming" anything other than it is more than stable enough for daily use, but it is a work in progress.
Is it worth it, yes, as long as you can read and comprehend. Treat your phone like the valuable hardware it is, and don't flash if you are unsure
Ps. Have you submitted your mod application
CM7

I'm running Juiced 1.2. I love it.

mcord11758 said:
Is it worth it, yes, as long as you can read and comprehend.
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That's a major caveat in here, seeing how common sense is at a premium these days.
Ps. Have you submitted your mod application
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I'm already a mod or admin at several other sites, including a cell phone site. They all have pretty much the same rules and expectations and about the same number of users that disregard both. Mr. Clown and Zelendel do a fine job, but the users also have a responsibility to help out when possible. There are a number of stickies in this subforum specifically for certain ROMs. They were created to help reduce the clutter and keep the forum focused. This thread should have gone there along with a number of others. If people would just take a moment to think before starting a thread, this place would run a lot smoother, especially for those who view it from their devices. Just sayin'.

Most stable ROM?

I may need to put a ROM on someone's Captivate. They won't be messing with the ROM really, I just need to know what the most stable ROM is. One that is virtually maintenance free. Froyo or Gingerbread, doesn't matter. GB preferable but not a must.
The phone has been shutting off once a day, I am hoping its just a software bug. Currently rooted, but on stock.
I've rooted my old Fascinate so I am sort of familiar with Samsung products.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt with CM7

Shut down is well known hardware fault. Return for warranty.
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This was a ebay purchase. Worked fine for months. Any other. options???
Will this get worse?
Edit : does the Keep Alive app actually work?
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt with CM7

The generally accepted understanding is that random shutdowns are caused by faulty internal memory. This means that the incidence of shutdowns can be affected by changing the installed rom, since different roms handle memory usage slightly differently. Some have reported that their shutdowns stopped with installation of some particular rom. However, I would think this would be a rather unreliable solution. Might work on some phones and not others, etc.
Another solution is a keep awake application, which I never tried on my first captivate, which had the random shutdown problem, and was replaced under warranty. I don't remember the name of that applciation for sure, but I do remember that some reported using it successfully. Seems like I remember that it reduces battery life, though.
By the way, on your initial question, Andromeda3 is considered one of the more stable roms. It has almost no bugs. But then I'm biased. I've been using Andromeda since it was first released.

Creepy, thanks for the VERY thorough answer. And not just point a link to Google or something!
I am going to try to convince this person to upgrade to the LG Thrill then. Does the Captivate have any value then in this condition? Trade-in value? Resale Value?
The Thrill was just announced only as $100. So if they can at least break even that would be great. The Captivate was purchased for $250 4 months ago, we were hoping it would retain resale value, but now this issue may make it more complicated....

SVII K4.0
But I am just trying to get 10 post so I can thank the developer.

Try andromeda, if that doesn't help then return it.

[Q] Samsung Galaxy laggy and unresponsive. How can I fix it? (4 options- see below)

Hi gang.
First off an apology if some of this/ all of this has been heard before. I spent all morning trawling forums and the internet in an attempt to fix the problems, but none seem to be anything I can deal with without getting some guidance from people in the know beforehand.
I have had my Galaxy tab GT-P1010 for a couple of years now and been very happy. It was origionally running Froyo, which is what the models ship with. Foolishly I presumed any updates from Samsung would be a benefit to the tab. The device is now rather clunky. Scrolling is slow and sluggish, programs crash without warning and the latest trick is that dialogue boxes are non-responsive (i.e. 'your phone will shut down: ok, cancel' does nothing when I press either option. Repeatedly. In rage.) The only option I have now for shutting down is to let the battery bleed out or hold the power key to switch off. I've tried things like factory reset, but even after reset, I'm still left with stupid old gingerbread.
Looking around there seem to be some options, but after reading through several times, I still have no clue. I understand that part of the problem is samsungs 'bloatware', of which there is plenty.
I'm not really sure how to go about it- I understand there are programs out there- Odin, Nandroid etc, but I'm a little lost on the lingo, and a little reluctant to go poking around without any decent knowledge.
Can anyone help? Or is this really a 'send it back to smasung job? It looks like I'm faced with these options:
1) somehow backdate from Gingerbread to Froyo
2) Strip out the samsung OS and install another launcher (which sounds like a can of worms to me)
3) send it back to Samsung and never EVER touch another one of their stinking updates.
4) another straightforward option that I haven't considered
Please help! (bear in mind I'm a total code-tard)

Return to froyo if that is the state where you are most comfortable with.
Another option would be, buy a new tab with better specs.
Sent from my boyfriend's home

Actually, the best solution is to UPgrade, not downgrade. There are many decent guides out there for modding your Galaxy Tab and flashing a custom ROM. Personally I've found that the stock Android ROMs (the device's OS, so to speak), particularly the older ones, are very slow in and of themselves. If you want, I can guide you through the process, PM me if you feel like it. Or you can PM a veteran like priyana, he has the biggest Thanks Meter I've seen so far on this end of the forums.
Modding your system, from personal experience gives you a major performance boost. You should first try this alternative before thinking about buying another device.

I scan the forum often, and thanks for the good words, geno,
But I don't know much beyond P1000 model.
But there are a few threads for P1010 that seems solid and has good followers.
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priyana said:
I scan the forum often, and thanks for the good words, geno,
But I don't know much beyond P1000 model.
But there are a few threads for P1010 that seems solid and has good followers.
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You deserve them man. Anyway, how different is the P1010 from the P1000? My own model, the NTT DoCoMo SC-01C, is actually nothing more than a rebranded P1000. Surely the operations can't be all that different for another model of the Galaxy Tab line. Does the Overcome kernel and ROM, for example, flash on other models or is it exclusively for the P1000?
EDIT: To the op, I actually did some looking around and found that the P1010 is something of a black sheep in the Galaxy Tab line. There are few, if any, custom ROMs for it, but there were a few threads that describe tweaks for performance and other things. They are the following:
Galaxy Tab GT-P1010 (WiFi Only) NooB Guide (you've probably already seen this)(you should also check the Thread Consolidation post somewhere there)
This thread shows some promise for CyanogenMod on your device, but it seems to have dropped off.
This thread might help you with your lag problem, as it (supposedly) brings you to the latest Gingerbread build.
In summary, though, it looks like I spoke too soon. There may, in fact, not be a better alternative than simply getting a new device. The Nexus 7 is currently hailed as one of the best Android tablets out there, and I find that it's pretty reasonably priced at $199 or so.
The open nature of Android is one of the reasons I love it so much, but if you can't do much with your particular device then you're not getting the most out of what Android has to offer. If I were in your shoes I'd probably switch if I had the money for it.
Anyway, that's the best I can do. Good luck with your device, man. If you ever decide to try tweaking it and/or need to ask some questions about the applications involved and other terms and such, priyana should be able to help you.
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Apparently the hardware is quite different. Your SC-01 is still quite close.
The heart of the ROM is the kernel and if the hardware is different, the kernel is bound to be different.
Not many top devs looking at P1010, so I think not much poking into the kernel been done.
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[Q] Might CyanogenMod damage the Wi-Fi Module?

Hello everybody,
I'm not sure if this is the right section which i'm posting in, but as i couldn't find a more suitable place I'll ask my question here.
2 Weeks ago i acquired a Samsung GT-I9301I Phone, i'm completely new to Android as my Company phone is a BlackBerry. The Phone itself seems really good but the whole Software Bundle (Bloat-Ware) that come with Samsung Devices were pretty annoying. So i started some research on the Internet concerning Custom ROM's and found a Thread here with CyanogenMod 11 suitable for my Device. So i flashed it onto my Phone, and i'm quite impressed of the work @Rox has done.
Yesterday i had a conversation with a Friend of mine in Germany who works for Samsung Mobile, especially the Cellphone Repair Section. I told him what I've done. And he told me that sooner or later my Wi-Fi Module will stop working because the CyanogenMod will Damage/Destroy it. He told me that they receive lots of Devices with this problem and that it is definitely a problem caused by that Mod.
ACTUAL QUESTION:
Has anyone encountered such problems or heard of it before? Would be nice to collect information on this, if it's really caused by the CyanogenMod. And if, then maybe we together can relay the information we gather to the CyanogenMod Team for further discussion and problem solving...
Thx ahead, Steve

Whelp, I've used CM on my old HTC Sensation for years, never encountered any problem with the modules for sure :/
Is your buddy really serious? Because I haven't heard about a device damaged by that

Hi,
indeed he's serious he won't make jokes on that.
Before me posting here and opening this thread I've also done intensive search on the internet, but i couldn't find anything concerning the mentioned problem.
So the question now is: WTH did screwed those devices he's talking about. And if you're saying that you also never heard of something like that and you're using CM yourself for several years, then it brings me to only one answer.
Rookies with no experience are flashing their devices and that maybe because of missing knowledge/understanding something gone wrong during their attempt's to flash the Custom ROM's...?!?
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WiFi Modules need to be compiled with kernel.
If those aren't flashed after flashing a mod or custom kernel, WiFi won't work.
If a rookie won't flash kernel modules then it's his mistake.

Hi..
That's maybe really the reason. I'm using CM since 3 day's now and haven't encountered any Wi-Fi problems except a maybe weaker signal strength.
OK 3 day's isn't that long so I'll keep my eyes and ears open, and will follow this "Rumor". As anything happens I'll report it here.
Everyone a Merry Xmas!
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SKolberg said:
Hi..
That's maybe really the reason. I'm using CM since 3 day's now and haven't encountered any Wi-Fi problems except a maybe weaker signal strength.
OK 3 day's isn't that long so I'll keep my eyes and ears open, and will follow this "Rumor". As anything happens I'll report it here.
Everyone a Merry Xmas!
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I don't believe you'll encounter any problems, it's just important to flash the right files, is all
And no, signal is not weaker, AOSP has different parameters for measuring signal strength, and I believe it's more accurate than manufacturers ROMs (saw this info somewhere on the forum, don't remember where)
And merry Christmas you good XDA user

How can software physically damage hardware? The only way I can think of actually damaging the wifi module is if the phone is dropped, gotten wet, or run so much that heat fries.

I'm thinking the same concerning the Overstress / Overheating otherwise no idea. Working in IT business myself and that's the only reasonable explanation for Hardware damage.
The other question is if it's software related than it's only possible as mentioned before, that the module driver isn't correctly compiled / implemented into the kernel. And therefore the module just isn't working instead of destroyed.
As those devices aren't being repaired by my friend cause of void warranty, it's still an open question if the modules Hardware damaged or just aren't working...
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Well, unless your friend is completely a idiot (no offense...) software can't do harm to hardware...Overheating may cause real issue but in reality I have owned dozen of devices from old HD2 to new Z3, all run custom ROM but never encounter single hardware error, only some minor button damage....