[Jan. 23]Android Concept Cases - HD2 Accessories

If you would want this idea to be made, post a reply saying so! The more support, the more chance we can make this project work!
1-23​*Update* I've been working very hard on this project. I've updated my "Blueprints" and will be making side & back views plus way more ideas than you can throw a stick at. I know this post is not much but pics and some words but just be patient. I will be throwing these models out to the marketers as soon as they're done. I want to try to get these made and ready to be sold for anyone that wants one before the end of this year. I know that's a stretch on time, but I'm still learning about the business side of distributing sadly to say, but if you have any pointers or anything you can help with, feel free to PM me or leave your feedback below! Thanks
-Bryan​
1-22​Hi everyone! I have been looking all over to find a case for my HD2. So far the only case that I found is an Otterbox Defender Series. It's a really nice case but I think the grey is a gross color for it plus, we now have the ability to have nothing but the Android OS on our device right? So why do we have to have the windows buttons? Why can't we have Android looking buttons? Why do we spend so much money and time on something we can't completely make our own (considering the T-Mobile logo at the top if you have a TMOUS HD2 like I do but don't use a T-Mobile SIM card)? That brings me to my point. That's why I made this concept drawing. I want it to be a rubber cover that goes snuggly over the device like an Otterbox Defender Case. I designed these two models to have custom made Android buttons. If anyone would want to help this project or want to give me any pointers to help me make this happen, PM me or leave your feedback below
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I like the idea, but the manufacturing costs will be quite high for individual units. I'm sure Otterbox wouldn't design and construct a new outer-case for a few consumers. If you have the means to manufacture them yourself, be wary of the patents in place by Otterbox.
Either way, good luck. If you can pull it off, I'd get one.

I don't think it's proper for you to solicit for money for your pet project. Basically, all you've said is "Donate/Pay me and I might work on this concept drawing based on someone else's case."
Now think about it objectively, would *You* find that a bit odd from someone with a handful of posts on the forum?
Btw, those buttons aren't even the shape of the HD2 buttons.
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Just looking at the forum rules, yeah, asking for upfront donations is a "NO-NO":
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8. Donations.
As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
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i dont really see the point of doing this

apallohadas said:
I don't think it's proper for you to solicit for money for your pet project. Basically, all you've said is "Donate/Pay me and I might work on this concept drawing based on someone else's case."
Now think about it objectively, would *You* find that a bit odd from someone with a handful of posts on the forum?
Btw, those buttons aren't even the shape of the HD2 buttons.
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Just looking at the forum rules, yeah, asking for upfront donations is a "NO-NO":
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Ok first off, these xda forums is designed for new ideas and progression. Not for people to criticize when you don't know what your talking about. What I was saying is "I'm going to develop and make these cases with a style like Otterbox." I'm not asking anyone to donate me. I'm not asking anyone to like this case either. I'm simply asking for ideas on the case. I want people to get exactly what they want. It's people like you that intimidates people into not saying any ideas that could possibly turn into something great. I will make this case and when I do, you'll find that when you get off your period that you shouldn't discourage people. Only give good criticism. And the whole phone is covered with the rubber for the case besides the screen. Do some research before you open your mouth.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsfeLK7Bc0

sbryan12144 said:
Ok first off, these xda forums is designed for new ideas and progression. Not for people to criticize when you don't know what your talking about. What I was saying is "I'm going to develop and make these cases with a style like Otterbox." I'm not asking anyone to donate me. I'm not asking anyone to like this case either. I'm simply asking for ideas on the case. I want people to get exactly what they want. It's people like you that intimidates people into not saying any ideas that could possibly turn into something great. I will make this case and when I do, you'll find that when you get off your period that you shouldn't discourage people. Only give good criticism. And the whole phone is covered with the rubber for the case besides the screen. Do some research before you open your mouth.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsfeLK7Bc0
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One thing that you learn when you grow up and move out of mommy's basement, is that criticism doesn't mean "tell me what I want to hear". There's nothing 'new' or 'progressive' about your case kid.
With all of your 12 posts under your belt, in your ORIGINAL post you asked for money. I'll repeat that just in case your short attention span made you get distracted.
YOU ASKED FOR DONATIONS FOR A NON-EXISTENT PRODUCT.
From your response above, you sound to me like you're a scamming little thief, not a venture capitalist. (Look that up if the words are too big for you.)
If you want me to respond to you as an adult to a child, I can do that. If you want me to respond to you as though you're something else, let me know k?
Oh, and genius? Thanks for the link to the Otterbox review, Oh wait! I own it already! *gasp*

apallohadas said:
One thing that you learn when you grow up and move out of mommy's basement, is that criticism doesn't mean "tell me what I want to hear". There's nothing 'new' or 'progressive' about your case kid.
With all of your 12 posts under your belt, in your ORIGINAL post you asked for money. I'll repeat that just in case your short attention span made you get distracted.
YOU ASKED FOR DONATIONS FOR A NON-EXISTENT PRODUCT.
From your response above, you sound to me like you're a scamming little thief, not a venture capitalist. (Look that up if the words are too big for you.)
If you want me to respond to you as an adult to a child, I can do that. If you want me to respond to you as though you're something else, let me know k?
Oh, and genius? Thanks for the link to the Otterbox review, Oh wait! I own it already! *gasp*
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do you think your cool because have two hundred + posts about you giving people a hard time? if you don't want to help or give criticism thats worth mentioning, shut the hell up and stay off of this post. ill repeat myself since you didnt understand the first time: i never asked them for donations, i said help would be nice NOT ASKED! i never even had a donations link up. if i was trying to scam someone dont you think i would have had a different approach to it rather what i did? your sad that you think that just from the amount of posts that that makes you worth listening to. i live on my own with my fiancée thank you very much. look, i would never try to scam anyone and i never will. i just wanted to design a case that i think people would like. i mean i would and considering the fact that android ported to the hd2 is very very popular, i think this idea is thinking out of the box. Granted, i have no experience in marketing or anything like that, but thats why i made this post. to get help doing so, but if i made one person happy by designing a case that people will enjoy, im satisfied. look you obviously are very judgmental to this whole idea, but if you could help me by leading me in the right direction rather than what you are doing, i could prove to you that im an honest person just trying to get my thoughts heard.
-Bryan

My cool factor has little to do with you trying to scam the forum.
Want advice?
1) Stop lying. Your first post asked for donations and "I'll put up a donate link later". Now you're pretending that you never asked for donations.
2) If you really want advice, stop acting like a little snot-nosed baby who misses his binky. You haven't proposed anything new. Even your sketches are taken from some other phone and you reference someone else's product. I'm missing the new and progressive content for which you were asking for money.
3) Brace yourself for criticism. In the adult world, it happens. A lot. No one is going to hold your hand and whisper softly "well lil Johnny, here's a bundle of cash for a half-thought idea". My first post was fairly neutral and you went off like I killed your favorite bunny. That set the stage for how we're interacting now.
Since I do own my own business, I could certainly tell you how to get things rolling, but as a business owner I also know when someone's peddling garbage, and right now you have a handful of crap.
So, here's some freebie advice: Don't ask for money again. If or when you have an actual product, the market (people) will decide what it's worth, if anything at all.
Sit down with a pencil and lots of paper, and start sketching. Unless you propose something radical (like the otterbox's 2 piece hard/soft combination) you'll just be making 'another silicon gel case' like the other hundred out there. But where you can be different is in some custom design, print, etching, or logo on the back.
There's no real estate on the front of the HD2 that be used creatively, so that leaves the back. Look at some Speck iPod cases for textured patterns and designs. If you come up with something really different, PATENT THE DESIGN then send it to Speckle or Otterbox for review. If it doesn't suck, they might use it.
BUT (Big ole BUT), be prepared for a lot of "That sucks. Try again."

all this back-and-forth aside.... a diy writeup on something like this... even in basic form gets my upvote

I really like the idea a lot. It would be great to have my phone actually look like what I have running it. I mean, you can mod everything else why not the button lay out. I've polished my battery backplate as seen here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888431
It would be great for you to come up with something on the lines to match that
but all in all it's a great idea and I'd be the first to 'donate'

Well idea is nice and little shaddy lol as I do think you are just out to get money no offense intended but what it comes down to is few things overhead costs, production, reliability, marketing in large scale operation you can bargain and cut the middle man but in your case you have to go though middle man thus driving the price higher. But hey if you want to do this then go ahead you don't need anyone permission just be eBay seller and post it on custom sites.

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Why dont you go to a chineese Manufacturer with the idea,they might be interested,However ide have to say i would be more interested in a better range of housing,They done it with the Blackstone,The chineese brought out different coulourd replacement housing for it,why cant we have a range of different colourd replacement housing for this beast like white,red rather than the standerd black,They would also do buttons,ide much rather have the standard hardware buttons rather than spending a lot of time trying to get ones like the evo,we could keep the hardware but just ask the chineese nicely to change the logos on the actual buttons to make them android style and rather than have a windows logo,just the words menu there instead,i think that would be a much more viable project,people would actually want to see that becouse it gives the device a new image without using cases or stuff like that

I don't like it
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Myself and two of my co-workers have HD2 running android. It would be a pretty sweet case if it came to fruition.
And to comment on what the others said, I was impressed that you took the time to draw that image, so at least you put "some" time into your idea thus far. I was less than enthused to watch your youtube video you posted, which seemed to be a "shameless plug" to bring in traffic to some poorly designed accessory site that presumably you're affiliated with.You just seem to me like one of those people that posts on forums to buy Viagra, but you form actual sentences with your solicitation, LOL.

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And to comment on what the others said, I was impressed that you took the time to draw that image, so at least you put "some" time into your idea thus far. I was less than enthused to watch your youtube video you posted, which seemed to be a "shameless plug" to bring in traffic to some poorly designed accessory site that presumably you're affiliated with.You just seem to me like one of those people that posts on forums to buy Viagra, but you form actual sentences with your solicitation, LOL.
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LOL way to funny

JWang158 said:
I solved the button problem by printing a few sticky cutouts and placing them on top. The light disperses like it was meant to be that way. Try it yourself!
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Can you show pictures of how it looks?
PS. I would go along with this idea.

So where are the sketches/designs?
Please dont tell me its just that thing which changes color? I could have mocked something up better using Deluxe Paint on my Amiga 1200 (seriously!!)
What I really think we need is completley new housing not just a case. Some Android and WP7 housing would be sweet!

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So where are the sketches/designs?
Please dont tell me its just that thing which changes color? I could have mocked something up better using Deluxe Paint on my Amiga 1200 (seriously!!)
What I really think we need is completley new housing not just a case. Some Android and WP7 housing would be sweet!
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You know, I was actually thinking about that myself. Like replacing the existing framework on the hd2 and replace it with the android or WP7 housing. Now that would be sweet.
I wish someone would start getting creative for this kind of stuff. As long as new phones are being made. HD2 will almost always be on top of it.

Lol, I thought you weren't asking for donations?

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Do me a favour [NSFW or Children]

Guys, I want to ask for a favour.
Ages and ages back I read about what I thought was an amazingly cool gadget.
We like gadgets.
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I got speaking with the guy that invented this thing, and was mightily impressed. You'll be able to read my review soon... but this is the gadget:
The Alpha Grip:
It's a keyboard, compressed onto a gamepad like device. The keys are positioned around and under natural finger positions, according to usage and linguistic frequency; others are positions under the controller and used with rocker type switches.
It's difficult to describe, but the thing sits naturally in your hands and you have full keyboard access, in an exceptionally innovative, ergonomic design.
And, there's more - it also has a little trackerball that sits under your thumb position, so you can control both mouse and keyboard functions without ever taking your hands off the device.
It is complicated, and takes some getting used to, but when you are used to it, it's amazingly neat and geeky. I used to play all of my FPS games with a nostromo N52, but this thing lets you even further automate your gaming, macros and keyboard layouts. It's not quite the perfect game controller, but it's damn near close.
It is wired USB. Wires are baaad.
Unfortunately, it is not wireless or bluetooth etc, which is something I've spoken to the inventor about implementing. So, it's not quite ready for our phones yet, but as and when it is, wow.
However, I use it with an OQO mini computer and it's a perfect marriage, compact and highly productive (once you master the learning curve and get used to it). I guess you could use it with an xbox 360 and ps3 too, which would be cooool (although I've never tried). It emulates a standard USB Keyboard and mouse, so is highly compatible and doesn't use special drivers.
Anyway, enough blurb, I'm not selling this thing, I'm not even reviewing this thing here - you'll be able to read a full review from me eventually (and I'm in no way commercially connected or benefited from this).
However, my favour:
AlphaGrip, the company, have superb technical support and customer care. I like the product, I like the company. But you've probably never heard of either.
So: Yahoo have a competition on right now running between various small businesses that need more attention. I think Alphagrip needs and deserves this... so, have a look at the Yahoo page, and see if you think AlphaGrip deserves a vote. You don't have to buy the product, or even like it, but just decide if it deserves some of your mouse click love to get a gadget a bit more attention.
Gracias.
Yahoo Competition
V
PS. If you do buy one, tell Mike Willner, the inventor, that I sent you. I'll try to put in a good word for us and get us a deal.
EDIT: guys, I've just heard back from Mike, and he says that when you're buying the AlphaGrip, if you say that you're a member of this forum and write your XDA forums user ID in the comments section of the purchase page, you'll get $10 off the price.
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it), you'll get an extra $5 off! Go out and buy yourself a free lunch on Mike...
He said that they are certainly interested in doing a wireless adaptor or an all smartphone compatible version, so winning the competition will help get them the resources to do that. Hurry up and click already!
Guys, I want to repeat. I don't work for these guys, and aren't commercially linked to them in any way. I've just found Mike and his guys (and gals) to be a refreshingly helpful and conscientious tech company. They don't over inflate their claims, but make 100% solid and innovative stuff.
its got my vote.. im not a gamer but love me some gadgets, can see that thing being very useful
Thanks shogunmark!
I have to say that I'm quite a fan of non standard input devices. My all time favourite is the Microsoft Strategic Commander. If you've never seen one, it's basically the thing the little dude in Flight of the Navigator uses to fly the UFO. It kicks ass, but it's a bit too clever for it's own good. It actually has one axis assigned to flexing space/time, like too much Prince of Persia!
Day to day I tend to use the Nostromo n52 (not just for games, but general productivity work with appropriate macros, keyboard hooks and Windows PowerPro - my all time favourite app)
And I've also reviewed the Wolf Claw, which is more conventional, but useful for WASD users. I'm not a WASD fan personally.
BTW, I finally managed to spend some time with the Wii this weekend. It's not a particularly accurate input device, but novel - has anyone considered porting the open source Windows Bluetooth Input Interface to WinMob? It'd be cool to play doom on your phone on the Tube. Way to get shot in the head...
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EDIT: guys, I've just heard back from Mike, and he says that when you're buying the AlphaGrip, if you say that you're a member of this forum and write your XDA forums user ID in the comments section of the purchase page, you'll get $10 off the price.
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it), you'll get an extra $5 off! Go out and buy yourself a free lunch on Mike...
He said that they are certainly interested in doing a wireless adaptor or an all smartphone compatible version, so winning the competition will help get them the resources to do that. Hurry up and click already!
Also, Mike said that if you want to complain, make suggestions or ask for something completely different, go over to their development wiki to shape what a future Smartphone Compatible version should do.
http://wiki.alphagrips.com/AG-6+Suggestions
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vijay555 said:
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it)
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Who watches video's?!?? i just do what the voices tell me to
just do what the voices tell me
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Last time I did that I woke up covered in axel grease with a suspicious-looking black ribbed knobbler
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vijay555 said:
Last time I did that I woke up covered in axel grease with a suspicious-looking black ribbed knobbler
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oh yeah, i remember those video's...
You should... . You didn't even cook breakfast.
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vijay555 said:
You should... . You didn't even cook breakfast.
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oh i cooked breakfast.. you were still sleeping, must have been all those roofies i slipped you
wow, talk about hijacking a thread
This thread has gotten really saucy!
It's funny, when checked the thread and first saw the pics of the controller, I thought someone was having some fun with Photoshop. That is one crazy looking gadget!
I think it's wild enough to be pretty cool though. I like anything new and weird though. (including this thread )
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Don't encourage them for gawd's sake Taurus. Sounds like they're as fruity as a nut cake:
Mike
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is that anything like this:
Ok you people, I'm gonna moderate myself and bring this back to game controllers.
The AlphaGrip is certainly not photoshopped, I have one here - it does requires practise to get up to speed, but it was the same with my nostromo, and now I use that thing like a natural extension of my being
If you have any questions about it, let me know...
Ok, to get back offtopic, or ontopic, I can't remember now given that 90% of this thread is rather, um, unsusual:
[SIZE=+1]Back Knobbler [/SIZE]Order code: BK
Manage your own chronic trigger point pain! The 2 different size ends and natural shape allow the user to apply as much pain releasing pressure for as long as required to achieve remarkable effects.
Price: £25.00 each
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Shogun, you know what to get me for being a good boy, this Christmas.
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PS Keep voting. You can vote once a day. But man, those wonky playhouses are cool!
vijay555 said:
Ok you people, I'm gonna moderate myself and bring this back to game controllers.
The AlphaGrip is certainly not photoshopped, I have one here - it does requires practise to get up to speed, but it was the same with my nostromo, and now I use that thing like a natural extension of my being
If you have any questions about it, let me know...
Ok, to get back offtopic, or ontopic, I can't remember now given that 90% of this thread is rather, um, unsusual:
Shogun, you know what to get me for being a good boy, this Christmas.
V
PS Keep voting. You can vote once a day. But man, those wonky playhouses are cool!
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I just voted again, looks like your guy is currently in the lead
Has there ever been a "usual" conversation between the mods, i mean really?!?
I can think of a few people that would need those for christmas
Looking at that knobbler thing, the more it seems to make sense.
My brain overheats just thinking about the possibilities... you can picture the Taewanese design manager sitting at his desk, staring at a blank sheet of paper:
"Ok, Monday morning, what to do, what to do?
We need to think of a device that has 1% useful therapeutic design, 99% obvious sexual function. We've done massagers, infra red heaters, relaxation balls...
I know, The Knobbler. Reaches the parts other double ended stimulation devices cannot reach."
V
PS Yeah. moderators need help. Hormonal issues seem to be a necessary qualification for the job!
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My brain overheats
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I dont think thats your brain, but im sure you still think with it
vijay555 said:
you can picture the Taewanese design manager sitting at his desk, staring at a blank sheet of paper:
"Ok, Monday morning, what to do, what to do?
We need to think of a device that has 1% useful therapeutic design, 99% obvious sexual function. We've done massagers, infra red heaters, relaxation balls...
I know, The Knobbler. Reaches the parts other double ended stimulation devices cannot reach."
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You think thats tough.. can you imagine the Research and Development team on that?
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PS Yeah. moderators need help. Hormonal issues seem to be a necessary qualification for the job!
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I think thats pretty obvious, especially with that really old guy mikechannon
mikechannon said:
Since you boys obviously get on so well together and I'd rather keep well away from this very weird thread, I'm going to present you both with a much superior controller than vijay's suggestion. I think you'll find it reminds you of each other so you need never feel lonely again:
Mike
(and it's not even entered for gadget of the year!! Go on shake hands with an old friend!)
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was that from your private collection?
Mike, don't be jealous, you know you have an open invitation to the parties. Friday night, bring chocolate spread!
I won't elaborate any further on this:
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PS: keep voting! I want Ivanka Trump to autograph my boobies.
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Mike, don't be jealous, you know you have an open invitation to the parties. Friday night, bring chocolate spread!
I won't elaborate any further on this:
V
PS: keep voting! I want Ivanka Trump to autograph my boobies.
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brings a whole new meaning to those traffic cones...
And mike, if you accept V's open invitation, you may want to consider some help..
And dont forget to vote
Hey guys, would any of you consider using the AlphaGrip or any of the above toys, including those for external application only?
One game pad I haven't owned is the Saitek Pro Gamer Command.
I played with it once on a display model and found it tacky and clunky. I much prefer the ergonomics of the Nostromo.
Do you guys ever use these things? Like I said, Nostromo is great for FPS, but you can also configure it to do stuff in productivity apps like PhotoShop, Word, VS2005, Winamp etc (although of course you can do that with pretty much any input device with appropriate software).
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Geez, what have I got myself into?! This thread degenerated in a hurry.

free drink mix software?

finally 21 and now i want software to help me get drunk in delicious fashion soo does anyone know of free software with mixes based on ingredients and such?
Here is one free one that I know of, however it is in no way the best. It actually references an online database to pull the drinks, so you would need a data plan to utilize it. It can be downloaded from freewarepocketpc at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocketender.html
The best one that I have found is not free but was only like $14 USD and is fantastic. It is from Town Compass, but it is quite inclusive... Here's some of the info: http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=490101
App
There's a bunch on this site. check them out. i havent tried it yet thou.
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http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/drink+mix
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/alcoholic+drink
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/cocktail
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this is to check if your sober enough to drive lol.( theres probably a better app out there...)
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Health/AlcoholLevel-67390.shtml
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i personally love the bartender app on the tmobile G1 but i cannot find it for my phone... errrrrr
well i hope i helped some. and if anyone can find the bartender app from tmobile g1 and its compatible with raphael/fuze i would love to know!!
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After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
AvantGo
Try using www.avantgo.com and add the "Drink Boy" channel. You'll get good recipes on a nice interface that you can view and search for offline. When you're online, it updates itself. I've had a lot of fun with it.
Oh yeah! Don't drink and drive.
speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I would definately be down. I totally concur. Half the bartender apps are outdated or are a bit difficult to navigate through. Being an amature bartender, I use my database quite a bit, but yeah if there was a program that would allow you to enter in your liquors on hand and priovide you with possibile combinations... Damn... That'd be sweet....
Sorry it's too early in the morning....
speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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Heck yeah!
+1 as my favorite quote is: "Candy is Dandy, But Liquor is Quicker"
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speed_pour said:
After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I'd love a drink mixing app.... so count me twice (for each hand that can hold a drink) lol
iam also a bartender and would love an app for mix drinks and shots!!! but dont forget to add the DEATHWISH shot:
DEATHWISH:
1/3 JAGER
1/3 WILD TURKEY 101
1/3 BACARDI 151
SPLASH OF GRENADINE...
(layer grenadine on bottom of shot glass, after pouring in liqours...)
(NOT FOR THE LIGHT DRINKER!!!)
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
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I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
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I freely admit, since I'm out of work right now, I'm fine with being a whore
I've already got a bit of this started, but I'm working on another project first that I think will get a lot of wide-spread usage across the forum. But I'll get back to working on this one very soon.
In the mean time, are there any particular features anybody is looking for. I'm sure it'll be easy enough to figure out all of the features the drinkers want, but what about bartenders? Tell me how often you think you'll be entering drinks, what extra features do you need. Will you actually be using this while at work...with your fingers?
I know this is in the Raph section, though it belongs in Q&A or D&H, but does anybody here want a QVGA version, or dare I ask, W(Q)VGA? If this app is going to see finger-based controls (which I'd expect to make sense), it's not really going to work out having small windows controls, so graphics/resolution will be considered for the first version.
This site works well for me Webtender
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This site works well for me Webtender
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I used to be a regular contributor to the forums there...The biggest problem is that the drink database is absolutely cluttered with incorrect entries and missing a lot of common recipes.
When I start building a collection of recipes, there's actually a couple of people from that forum that I'm going to ask for help/collaboration. I'm also going to throw them a heads up to ask for any thoughts from them on what they would like to see.
Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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lol, from me, it'll be at least a couple of weeks. I'm in the middle of working on another app that'll be quite a bit more relevant on this forum. But I will be coming back to this app shortly.
I'll post more info to this thread when I start it, and then I'll create a release thread in D&H (and post a link to it here) when there's a reasonably good start on a beta version.
You can help out by giving some ideas of what features you'd like to see in it.
this is very cool that you'd consider putting an app together, pour...the best reference app/source I've found is that DrinkBoy channel on avantgo. That said, my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group, but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group
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I kinda suspect, with luck, my app will draw attention from hopefully every group....the college students, bar patrons, and even bartenders from different types of places. For that reason, a "simple" app might not be too likely. Simple interface is definitely part of my plan, but the application itself is going to be pretty powerful and probably meant to cover a lot of people's uses.
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but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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- Favorites will be very easy to implement, so this is pretty much a sure thing.
- The database itself is a subject I intend to take more seriously than a lot of people probably expect (more on that in the future).
- I've got several ideas for searches/filters, each will be fleshed out as I build it. I'm aiming mostly for live searches and the first will be using quick ingredient filtering.
- fuzzy search...I'll see what I can do, but that's one I know very little about. Some quick googling turned up some information that's possibly VERY usable, but it's all written for the the big brother .Net Framework while the Compact Framework gets no love. I'll bookmark some of this stuff and see where I can go with it after I've released a first version. As much as it might be cool, I can't justify porting Lucene.Net to the compact framework for this project. In the mean time, I can use a "Sounds Like" mechanism that would probably do pretty well for an early version. I'm also a little worried about performance.
As a note, I'd previously said that I wouldn't be starting this until I finished another application. I feel a little dumb for not seeing it sooner, but I discovered Sashimi exists (though I haven't started testing it). While it sorely lacks about half of the features I planned to build, it does a far better job at the other half of the features I had in mind. I'm going to try out Sashimi for a while to determine if there's enough reason to build my app (or possibly a configurator/extension of sorts for use with Sashimi, if possible). As a result, I'm going to put that project on hold and move on to this one.
Second note...err, request actually...I'm ok with graphics...sometimes...But I want to make this app graphically attractive and possibly add skinning ability. At the very least, I will need a few decent looking icons for a few things, at the most, it might turn into an entire interface design. One of my goals is to make this app roughly comparable to something people might expect to buy form the iPhone AppStore (after all, everybody is *****ing about the lack of pretty WM apps). So, if anybody has decent graphics skills and is up for helping out, drop me a line and we'll bump some ideas around when I get to the right stage.
wow i had almost forgot about this thread glad to see something has come of it!
definetly excited to see what you come up with
Is this program still in active development? I hope it is because it sounds like it could be really nice/useful!

EBAY!?!! selling all your hard work

just FYI not sure if anyone has seen this douche bag. appears he is making a nice living off of your guys' hard work. i think this user should be made an example of. anyone with any ideas?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250421549454
yeah he is making a killing selling those.
Probably hasn't sold any, but I reported.
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Probably hasn't sold any, but I reported.
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Check his feedback profile..
You'll weep when you see how many CDs he sold for 50 pop EACH!!!
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ya nearly all his feedback ratings are from $50 a pop on that cd. he's got over 150 positive feedbacks. i also reported prior to the original thread posting cuz thats just wrong imo.
yes Im danielmex_83
jajaja i sent him a message wanna see it? hahaha just for fun you know!
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there are many people that loves everything easy... even if it cost 50 bucks.
Thats insane. I can't even begin to imagine the people that have been scammed out of 50 bucks for stuff that is completely free. And no credit to those that developed the software. Shame
He answers me!
HAHAHAHAH well I ask him if he can shipp the cd to the bermudas triangle!
he answers...
hahaha didnt you live on Mexico? hahahaha god damn! this guy is so funny!
I sent a question as to why he sells things that are free to find, he replied with:
"I charge mainly for the tutorial and personal assistance. I throw in all the apps, etc. in as a bonus. I have donated to the programmers and it took hours and hours of how to figure this stuff out and what to install first, etc."
I don't think there's much wrong with this, although AUD$60 is a bit much and I disagree with "All of these games, apps and themes are easily worth over $800" as they are (mostly) free.
I think we need some of the opinions of the devs who's software is on this CD.
^^^ Well he is not lying, he is NOT scamming anyone. I mean, yea he makes money off this, but he has just taken all the effort we enjoy, playing around with stuff... some users just want to have everything handed to them, and with support AU$60 is pretty good if I were non-geek.
He is noy doing anything illegal, I think some ppl are jealous? report? for what?
I've seen ppl sell freeware before, it is not illegal if he is adding something beneficial to the sale (his tuts and support).
I don't hate, but that's just me!
Is it over priced.. YES, is it a scam... NO! Is it wrong.. Maybe... Is it illegal... NO!
But it goes against an unwritten code, but thats it.
If i offered a service to install MS Office 2007 and tech support it for 3mths for 50 bucks, nothing wrong with that... right? Software vendors LIVE off this 'support'.
Anyway, it has broken a code and I see where you guys are pissed, but reporting? c'mon get over it.
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I sent a question as to why he sells things that are free to find, he replied with:
"I charge mainly for the tutorial and personal assistance. I throw in all the apps, etc. in as a bonus. I have donated to the programmers and it took hours and hours of how to figure this stuff out and what to install first, etc."
I don't think there's much wrong with this, although AUD$60 is a bit much and I disagree with "All of these games, apps and themes are easily worth over $800" as they are (mostly) free.
I think we need some of the opinions of the devs who's software is on this CD.
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I think what he is doing is partly illegal, at least in reference to s2u, on the page of A_C it's stated directly under freeware licence "You are NOT allowed to make a charge for distributing this Software whether as a stand-alone product, or as part of a compilation or anthology, without explicit prior written permission." Probably there is something similar about other apps/games on the CD, at least I could imagine Microsoft and google are providing something similar. Whether he donated to the programmers or not don't changes anything about his permissions applying there software.
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^^^ Well he is not lying, he is NOT scamming anyone. I mean, yea he makes money off this, but he has just taken all the effort we enjoy, playing around with stuff... some users just want to have everything handed to them, and with support AU$60 is pretty good if I were non-geek.
He is noy doing anything illegal, I think some ppl are jealous? report? for what?
I've seen ppl sell freeware before, it is not illegal if he is adding something beneficial to the sale (his tuts and support).
I don't hate, but that's just me!
Is it over priced.. YES, is it a scam... NO! Is it wrong.. Maybe... Is it illegal... NO!
But it goes against an unwritten code, but thats it.
If i offered a service to install MS Office 2007 and tech support it for 3mths for 50 bucks, nothing wrong with that... right? Software vendors LIVE off this 'support'.
Anyway, it has broken a code and I see where you guys are pissed, but reporting? c'mon get over it.
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Hi everybody, and thanks x86 for not posting like drdrew and Que. I have been selling these disks and guess what? I am not the first or the last to do it. I bought an HTC phone and wanted to make it cool like the stuff I found on the internet for FREE. However, I had NO clue of how to do it. I didn't know you had to install NETCFsetup35 first. I didn't know you had to install Batteryand Performance Hack, then SDKcerts, then finix, etc in THAT order. These are things that took a while to learn how to do. I couldn't find a thread on what, how or when to do these things and I am pretty computer literate. Someone else was selling the phones with the programs on them first and I decided I would write an easy to understand tutorial and sell my own disks so others could enjoy. This is called free enterprise.
I don't and never have taken credit for anyone's work and have donated to the sites I have gone to and talked with a few of the programmers. Bongsu has awesome themes and I have donated to vicotts site after he said that's where the money should go. I donated to XDA. PPCgeeks as well. Have I talked to all of them? No. I could take ALL the apps, themes and games off and the tutorial I created is worth it alone. Not only that, but many of my customers have had to call me and ask for support. I have spent hours on the phone helping some people who are completely computer illiterate step by step to make their phones so fun and cool. I offer the disks at $50 with a Best Offer option as well. Some people buy for $40 and some for $35. x86, It's not overpriced when you consider the support. Just like you said, companies make a TON of money on support. I was just offered the great deal of $129.99 from Dell to help me resolve a ONE-time issue with my computer. Support costs money.
I guarantee if you ask any of the people who have bought the disk, not a one of them feels scammed. Why would they? I talk them through it to help them. The tutorial is very easy to understand but some people are not savvy. Actually, I have had many of my customers tell me I am not charging enough! That's no joke. I started at $24.99 and was told over and over I was charging too LITTLE! Why would any programmer be upset as there programs are on more phones? That's why they are created; to have fun and make phones look cool. But there was nobody to help me and many others understand HOW to do it!
The people buying these disks have seen many of the programs on the internet and know they are out there for free, yet they still buy my tutorial. I include the urls to PPCgeeks and XDA in my tutorial as well as other sites. That way they can then do it for themselves after they learn how to do it from me the FIRST time.
I simply sold what most people like, the easy route. And I just thought it would be cool to put a bunch of programs on the disk to get these people started! All the things I have put on that disk are found on the internet for FREE, Except for TWO things; my tutorial and phone support. I charge for that. If you have a problem with that, you are free to feel that way. If you want to pay my cell phone bill, let me know. But the fact is, nobody who has purchased this disk has come back to say they want their money back. I have 100% feedback. That should tell you something.
Edit: If someone wants to contact me, feel free to do so but name calling and insults are childish.
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Edit: If someone wants to contact me, feel free to do so but name calling and insults are childish.
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This account has been banned for being a sock-puppet.
Please use your real account "Sho'nuff" for replying to questions like these Roy.
EqX
Thanks Equinox
Its been a while since i have see you on wizard forums, jejeje long time ago i think since manilla 2d comes to town, thanks for let us know that this guy, maybe a memeber from here makes a new user saying want to clear thinks up... want? or wish i could? moron!
Im so angry about this! Really. but what can i win? nothing but healty decrease so lets over this situation.
Well this guy contacts me telling me ebay has some policy's and dont allow to post the logo! well i will edit only... my... Screenshots... and post the screenshot of his PM to me.
To let you know how this guys operate his dirty tricks i mean is not illegal no no no i know I know if he wants to earn some bucks showing his ass on the street please make it where nobody can see you, is immoral!
well here you go (just to have truth on my words)
wanna the reply here it is...
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You know, I would appreciate you taking down your posts. I answered your questions honestly and did nothing wrong to you. eBay also has a strict policy of using their logos and posting private emails on a public thread. I think if you read my email on this thread, you will see what I offer is a tutorial and personal assistance and am not scamming or hurting anyone. You have your right to say you don't like it and that's fine, but again, I would appreciate you taking down the screen shots.
Also, if you look on eBay, you will see there have been others who have done it. There is someone else selling a disk right now and someone selling a phone with the programs on it.
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OK! its fine for me, but only if you go to the forum where you saw that screenshoots and post this same words... if you dont do it i will, then, i will edit my posts, I think the administrator of this site will be happy with this agreement.
Cheers dude! see you later.
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Dont support this kind of people they never will have sense of good things or bad things, be smart guys be more than this guys, learn more and more you will love this machines, really and can support the learning growing up this lazy mankind we are turning into.
+ Que PPC
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Its been a while since i have see you on wizard forums, jejeje long time ago i think since manilla 2d comes to town, thanks for let us know that this guy, maybe a memeber from here makes a new user saying want to clear thinks up... want? or wish i could? moron!
Im so angry about this! Really. but what can i win? nothing but healty decrease so lets over this situation.
Well this guy contacts me telling me ebay has some policy's and dont allow to post the logo! well i will edit only... my... Screenshots... and post the screenshot of his PM to me.
To let you know how this guys operate his dirty tricks i mean is not illegal no no no i know I know if he wants to earn some bucks showing his ass on the street please make it where nobody can see you, is immoral!
well here you go (just to have truth on my words)
wanna the reply here it is...
Dont support this kind of people they never will have sense of good things or bad things, be smart guys be more than this guys, learn more and more you will love this machines, really and can support the learning growing up this lazy mankind we are turning into.
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I may as well write this on the public forum since it seems you are the dirty one who cannot keep a private conversation private. Also, I created the other name so people wouldn't flood my regular email so I created a new email and name for that. But guess what? Not a single email has come to me with a problem or insults. Actually, I got an email from someone on this thread telling me I did a great job explaining.
And by the way, your screenshots still show eBay licensed information. Your posting of a private email on a public forum doesn't go over well either. I will ask you to remove them again. XDA is a great site and doesn't need trouble because of your posts.
Hey Ben, I mean Equinox, you should do the right thing and take down the screenshots if Mr. Que here doesn't decide to. Or should I just contact the administrator?
I find it quite funny you come on here using words like moron and how angry this makes you when in reality you have not created any of these programs. Maybe it's possible you're jealous that you don't have the common sense to write a tutorial and offer support to folks who want their phones to have these great features and at the same time turn a little profit? Not all people who buy these phones know anything about these apps, themes and games. I was a first time Win Mo user and had NO idea about this stuff. Try to look at the positive aspect. Many more people know about these great things and HOW TO INSTALL them. That's what you're not getting. You seem to think the people who bought this disk are lazy. No, they are not as computer savvy as some of us are. They need help. And when I went to forums to find out stuff, it was SO much info to take in that I just about said forget it. And I wasn't sure about viruses or what to install or what needed to be installed, etc.
I have 13 sent messages in my outbox from March that I sent to people asking for help when I first joined this site. Guess how many answered? ZERO. I finally found someone who helped me, and it wasn't from this site, and then I took off from there. It's not lazy QUE, but I think you know that. Or maybe you don't. How did YOU come to learn how to do these things? How did most people on these forums? They are either IT's, creators, real computer savvy or got help from someone. Well, I am one who waited about a month after getting my phone to finally find someone to help me.
So I decided to offer assistance to other people which includes phone support. Do you have a cell phone QUE? Do you pay your own bill? They're not free, are they? Also, you never mentioned the fact that I have donated and talked with some of the actual programmers. No, you seem to just listen to what you want and write what will incite others.
And the fact is, people were doing this BEFORE me, selling phones with all the programs on them for $500 when I bought my phone back in March. I didn't need another phone, I just needed to learn how to get the programs. So that's what I offered to others. And to be able to actually call me and I would walk them through it step by step. Read the feedback and you will see that. There was another guy selling the disks before me and ALL he had on them was apps and themes and games and no phone support. People came to me because they needed help. Too bad you only look at the negative and try to paint me as a bad person. The people who bought my disk don't think so and love these forums.
That's a whole other realm you don't even realize. I have sold a few of these disks and that means, a whole new group of people have come to these sites, like XDA and PPCGeeks and likely have donated to get a new theme, etc. or have contributed in some other way. And it also brings in more clicks to these sites. Did you know that or even think about that?
I have been truthful and can walk away from this with my head up high as I know I have helped so many other people. I don't post private messages, I don't use childish insults. I came here to try to set the record straight. I believe I have done so. Obviously not with you Que, but that's okay. People will always disagree in this world.
What I don't understand, is why so many people without a vested interest in this, are getting so worked up about it. What this guy did was very enterprising, very illegal, but very enterprising.
It is not up to anyone but the developers of the apps, to go after this guy. If you go by the feedback alone, he has sold $7500 worth of other peoples work. That is not chump change.
The courts have been very clear on this, most recently with music sampling. If you sample someone elses music on your rap CD, be prepared to pay. Record companies have already had to pay big bucks for artists who have been caught sampling on their CDs. This is nothing more than sampling.
Being a semi-professional writer, I will also say that one does not need to professionally copyright his work in order for the court to side with the original publisher against someone trying to profit from their work. How many times do you see people suing songwriters and screenwriters for stealing ideas , thoughts and passages. Many times the courts have sided with, and movie companies have been forced to settle with, people who have proved that an idea was originally theirs, even without an " official " copyright.
Trying to prove that he wasn't selling the apps, just the instruction and support, is very shaky legal ground indeed. But it is up to the original publishers of the programs to sue for their share of the profits, I hardly think it is worthwhile for us to bicker about it.
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What I don't understand, is why so many people without a vested interest in this, are getting so worked up about it. What this guy did was very enterprising, very illegal, but very enterprising.
It is not up to anyone but the developers of the apps, to go after this guy. If you go by the feedback alone, he has sold $7500 worth of other peoples work. That is not chump change.
The courts have been very clear on this, most recently with music sampling. If you sample someone elses music on your rap CD, be prepared to pay. Record companies have already had to pay big bucks for artists who have been caught sampling on their CDs. This is nothing more than sampling.
Being a semi-professional writer, I will also say that one does not need to professionally copyright his work in order for the court to side with the original publisher against someone trying to profit from their work. How many times to you see people sueing songwriters and screenwriters for stealing ideas , thoughts and passages. Many times the courts have sided with, and movie companies have been forced to settle with people who have proved that an idea was origanally theirs, even without an " official " copyright.
Trying to prove that he wasn't selling the apps, just the instruction and support, is very shaky legal ground indeed. But it is up to the original publishers of the programs to sue for their share of the profits, I hardly think it is worthwhile for us to bicker about it.
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Dude, your math is way off. I sold some HTC phones too, so maybe that's how you added about $6,000 wrong lol. I sold maybe 40 CD's and many people didn't even pay $50. I let some go for as little as $25. You also didn't include how muh eBay and Paypal take out for their fees. As far as illegal, most of the developers say if you want to share, include the url where it came from. I also donated to those programmers.
But I did agree with you on the fact that it was enterprising, thanks. My tutorial is what sold. My personal assistance is what sold. If you read the feedback you will see that. These people now have the ammo to search and find more and know HOW to do it.
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I think what he is doing is partly illegal, at least in reference to s2u, on the page of A_C it's stated directly under freeware licence "You are NOT allowed to make a charge for distributing this Software whether as a stand-alone product, or as part of a compilation or anthology, without explicit prior written permission." Probably there is something similar about other apps/games on the CD, at least I could imagine Microsoft and google are providing something similar. Whether he donated to the programmers or not don't changes anything about his permissions applying there software.
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I completely agree. I think if a wrote a small tutorial on Firefox and packaged it with firefox 3 and sold it on ebay for $50, it would be quite an issue. This is no different. Just because you're dealing with an individual's product instead of a corporation doesn't give you the right to package it without there permission, when they intended for it to be free, and sell it for money. This would be PERFECTLY FINE if he was selling tutorials for the products, noting that they are 100% free applications, and that you are being charged for the tutorials. However, leading people to believe that they are getting a great deal on tons of apps is awful and dishonest.
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As far as illegal, most of the developers say if you want to share, include the url where it came from. I also donated to those programmers.
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you said MOST, not ALL., can you see the difference?
But I did agree with you on the fact that it was enterprising, thanks. My tutorial is what sold. My personal assistance is what sold. If you read the feedback you will see that. These people now have the ammo to search and find more and know HOW to do it.
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You are not advertising your personal assistance, you are advertising the applications.
See the difference?
So yes, you are ILLEGALLY selling software (freeware) from which is known that the authors (like A_C) don't want to be redistributed.
As far as "personal assistance" goes, well I have read into your posts, you are far from an expert on Windows Mobile to say at least.
I am closing this thread before any valued (actually contributing) senior member is going to cross the line and have to face punitive actions.
As for you, since you obviously ignore this:
S2U2, S2P & S2V are being distributed as Freeware. It may be freely used, copied and distributed as long as it is not sold, and all original files are included, including this license. You are NOT allowed to make a charge for distributing this Software whether as a stand-alone product, or as part of a compilation or anthology, without explicit prior written permission.
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, actions against you are being taken.
Regards to the actual contributing members,
EqX

HOWTO: Live an Active & Healthy lifestyle thread

Hey guys!
So - I know there's a lot of you that are pretty active runners, cyclists, swimmers etc. But there are some of you that want to start! I feel that everyone should have a healthy form of exercise, and diet. It just makes you feel a lot better, (mentally and physically) and you just plain live longer. Why wouldn't you want to be healthy?
This idea behind this thread is that I hope to build a mini community of people here - helping others either A) Get back to living an healthy active lifestyle or B) Get others into it! and most importantly C) Encouragement to continue doing so!
This thread is perfect for you if you're COMPLETELY new to working out or getting active. SO please ask questions! Don't be shy - either myself or someone else can answer!
A little about myself: In a nutshell, I was pretty small growing up. I was bullied a lot and was told that I wasn't going to become anything. So I believed that, and carried it until near the end of high school. After that I began to surround myself with good, positive people who were really encouraging and active which led me to working out, cycling, and running. I've now have a positive attitude, changed how I eat, and work, now life is pretty much looking up! (business in the making, and much more active and happier.) The main thing I learnt from the entire experience was that the only reason I failed, is because I believed what others told me - and didn't do anything about it to fix it. DO NOT make the same mistake and make the difference. Don't wait.
How to get started you ask? Easy. Find something you enjoy! and CHANGE your current diet!
Then go from there! It doesn't have to strenuous! Even going for a nice walk daily can make a difference! I've included some resources below. Please use them to help you achieve your goals.
RESOURCES
APPS
I highly recommend the download of BOTH of these!
CardioTrainer - Great app for tracking distance, and pace. (useful for a runner/cyclist/walking and other physical activities)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wsl.CardioTrainer&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
Fitness Buddy Free - HUNDREDS of exercises. There's a .gif animation showing you how proper form too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyhealth.fitnessbuddyandroidfree&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5za3loZWFsdGguZml0bmVzc2J1ZGR5YW5kcm9pZGZyZWUiXQ..
DIET
lhttp://www.livestrong.com
Amazing site. Once you make an account - you can basically have a weight goal: then you input meals you had and it breaks down everything for you, to how much fat, carbs and protien you're getting and how much you need to achieve you goals! Mega handy.
http://www.trickstutorials.com/content/archive
Great Heath and Nutrition section, with some funny stuff! It's a little dated, but he really gives you a no-BS approach to keeping yourself focused. If you want to get into freestyle tricking - he's a boss. EDIT: He just did some major updates on his site. Check it out!
I recommend you read: "Conquering the mid-day crisis", "Sleep secrets" , "Water, the magic potion" and "3 eating habits I learned too late"
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/order-commander/index-eng.php
or
http://fnic.nal.usda.gov/dietary-guidance/myplatefood-pyramid-resources/usda-myplate-food-pyramid-resources
Yes, the Canada Food Guide and the ! Pretty much a great way to have a basic meal plan down. I included the USDA Food Pyramid as well
http://getfitwithkevin.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/five-things-that-will-cause-you-to-gain-weight-fast/
AN ACCURATE read! If you have some problems with weight - this would be a beneficial.
Cycling
Climbing Survival - watch the whole series! Awesome advice.
http://www.bikejournal.com
A handy tool, to keep track of your progress and how far you've gone.
Great gym conditioning video if you want to train for something like Triathlon....
The first two exercises can be done on the ground, without elevating your legs - First one is called mountain climbers other, you can supplement with burpees
Running
http://speedy.sh/aF4cR/Evolution-Running.avi
A cheesy - But VERY informative video on how to achieve better, and more efficient running technique.
BODYBUILDING
http://scoobysworkshop.com/beginning-workout-plan/
Just a plain good, no-bs site. He has beginner's workouts to advanced. I warn you that he can be cheesy at times! But the information is top-notch, and he's got almost everything covered. Highly reccomend.
https://www.youtube.com/user/MPTrainingVideos?feature=watch
Corey Gregory (President of MusclePharm) gives you tips + tricks when working out. Guy is 33 years old, and an absolute beast. I use lots of MP products and I love em.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/workout.htm
Has routines for you, geared towards your goals!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm
Figure out your body type to find the best exercises and maximize your goal progress!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/
Amazing step-by-step how to, for any exercise. Complete with video tutorials. My main reason why I'd use this site.
Supplements
Depending on your workout goals, sometimes supplementing helps you get everything you need to gain results by consuming certain ones!
http://scoobysworkshop.com/2012/06/16/fda-fines-bodybuilding-com-bad-supplements/
This guy is pretty transparent when it comes to workout advice - he is an older guy, so he has some corny humor but otherwise - great advice and this is great encouragement to seek healthier supplements/alternatives
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/
This is where I get my Supplements from. Cheap, and they ship to Canada + US. Can't get really beat their prices either.
I am a huge fan of fish oil. Great for your brain (function), and increases fat oxidation (fat burning) after a carb rich meal!
http://www.brinkzone.com/articles/fish-oil-for-fat-loss/
http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-animal-products/organic-fish/health-benefits-of-fish-oil.html
Brand I usually use: http://www.amazon.com/Carlson-Finest-Liquid-Omega-3-Lemon/dp/B001LF39RO
Pure and potent - have 3 tsp a day WITH meals. Pleasant lemony taste.
CHOCOLATE MILK! I couldn't believe how good this stuff is for you, especially after a workout. Great serving of protein, amino acids - basically an epic bomb for recovery that tastes amazing.
http://ca.askmen.com/sports/bodybuilding_200/247_fitness_tip.html
I decided to add a link to the water article above - Drinking water = contributes to healthy weight loss, increased cognitive brain function, and YOUR BODY JUST WORKS BETTER. So buy yourself a water bottle and drink more of it!
http://www.trickstutorials.com/content/wpotion
GREEN TEA. Read up on it - boosts immune function (and apparently increases t cell production which helps prevent/treat autoimmune diseases.), and it also increases metabolism (fat burning during exercise) as well!
http://www.livestrong.com/article/441364-what-are-the-benefits-of-green-tea-for-auto-immune-disease/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_tea
http://www.nutritionalsupplementshq.com/green-tea-benefits/
RECOVERY
After working out, you want to make sure you always stretch before and AFTER. Doing so - increases your flexibility, and you wouldn't be as sore the next day!
http://www.trickstutorials.com/content/recovery
Is full of information - keep in mind that he is a freestyle tricker so he has advice about it there, ignore it if that's not your thing.
http://www.trickstutorials.com/content/flexibility
Long - but full of great information about stretching and recovery. (Made in 2005.)
MOTIVATION
Nothing gets me more amped for a workout, when I see awesome samplers or anything of the sort.
Old school, but this video really made me want to just run out and bench press something.
If you want to get into freestyle tricking - You'll love this.
This is a good friend of mine, who really encouraged me to start living an active lifestyle. He gained almost 20 pounds of muscle, lost it all due to salmonella poisoning and gained it all back. He's a little monotonous! But, great encouragement for guys who are smaller built - see what hard work can do.
ASK AWAY! and GET OUT THERE AND HAVE FUN!
Your success - is up to you, and you can be successful if you just try!
Cheers,
-Richard
Edit: Nicely done.
You know what? I'm not particularly active - tore up my right knee about 5 years ago, but I used to do quite a lot of running before then as it helped pass the time and take my mind off other things going on. I still ride sometimes, but not as much as I would like.
However, I really hope this thread does well as it is one of the very few OT threads I've seen in the last few months which actually strikes me as being useful and a good idea. Well done Richard, and I hope to see this thread topping the 100k mark one day
What I use
I was: 128 pounds, 20% bodyfat.
My current Height and Weight: 5,7 - 153 pounds, 15% bodyfat
Short term goal Goal weight/%/ - 160, 13% bodyfat
END GOAL of 170 pounds, 10% bf
Supplement "stack" (a list of supplements used)
- SWISS NATURAL Omega-3 (1000mg) [fish oil]. (3 times daily. with meals.)
- Lipton Green Tea (I drink this throughout my day - promotes overall good health and burns fat)
- MusclePharm COMBAT Protien Powder (Banana Cream Flavour) + a dash of cinnamon http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/musclepharm/combat.html
Cycling
I ride a Trek 1.2 Road Bike modified with Tiagra Compontents...with Fulcrum Racing Wheels.
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Bikejournal.com is for my cycling (Gotta get back on that bike!), Just good to keep a record of distance, and goals.
Running
I use CardioTrainer to map out how well I'm doing running wise - Uses the GPS to track how fast you're going, and your pace. Very useful.
For shoes I wear the Saucony Guide 5. Wider in the toebox. Great arch support if you have low arches and need that.
Apparel
I personally prefer Under Armour or Nike Dri-Fit. Nike's Combat stuff feels awesome, not tight - and dries really fast. If you're a bigger/heavier built person - Go for Under Armour.
Eyewear:
Oakleys. Great investment, beautiful lenses. You could probably find them at a great price online...
Feel free to ask me anything regarding gear as well! Worked in Shoes and Sporting Apparel for 4+ years.
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You got me for an instance until.
^^This.
So good luck!
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Appreciate the vote of confidence! But hey! You're being real - so it's all good
@Simon - I am sorry to hear that! I know a lot of people who had to stop due to injury and it really sucks! I am happy to hear that you still ride on occasion! Please feel free to lend your expertise when possible! Keep riding! Thank you!
Uploading a Video on how to have proper form when it comes to running - pm me if you'd like a link.
It's full of semi-cheesy graphics, but the information is awesome. Great if you're looking to learn how to run better.
I'll have to post a little more, then I'll start posting resources for you guys to look at!
Simon.TS.HTC said:
You know what? I'm not particularly active - tore up my right knee about 5 years ago, but I used to do quite a lot of running before then as it helped pass the time and take my mind off other things going on. I still ride sometimes, but not as much as I would like.
However, I really hope this thread does well as it is one of the very few OT threads I've seen in the last few months which actually strikes me as being useful and a good idea. Well done Richard, and I hope to see this thread topping the 100k mark one day
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Same thing happened to me. About a month after I got out of the Marines I blew out my knee. It has been healed up for a while now I just haven't gotten back into it as of yet. Haha it sucks too I used to be able to run the 3 mile in a little under 20 min.
I also think this could be a useful thread, good work making it I hope it sticks around.
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Same thing happened to me. About a month after I got out of the Marines I blew out my knee. It has been healed up for a while now I just haven't gotten back into it as of yet. Haha it sucks too I used to be able to run the 3 mile in a little under 20 min.
I also think this could be a useful thread, good work making it I hope it sticks around.
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StormMcCloud - Thank you for the encouragement. I've seen people just not want to get a nice healthy workout in, or they want to - but don't know how! I used to be on a computer 16+ hours at a time playing video games... I really hope that people can come to a thread like this, and be encouraged and really find some answers to their questions. Heck! If we get enough people in an area - we should all go out and run, or join a Spartan Race or a Tough Mudder. Train together and have some stuff to look back on.
It sounds like you did a lot of awesome training! Feel free to post an article, or drop some advice. I'm sure lots of people would appreciate it!
I will also do my best to keep my eyes out on well priced apparel, sales, and equipment and post it here as well. If you live in CANADA I will post Sport Chek/National Sports family and friends discount card whenever available! (It's good to have connections )
Hahaha my advice would probably be deemed as insanity by both workout professionals and the average person.
Does tennis count?
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Does tennis count?
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Sure does! If people have questions about it - they know who to go to!
Feel free to post anything you like about it! Pointers...Videos...etc if someone new or seasoned can learn from!
Links are now available for your pleasure!
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For lifting two things are important: mixing up your routine to shock your body and staying flexible. If you're new to it, take your time and learn your limits slowly. The worst thing you can do is go too heavy off the rip and end up hurting yourself. If anyone is looking to put together a routine drop me a line on here and I'll be happy to help.
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MOS? I am going to need knee replacements here in the next 3-5 years according to the VA. I was an 0341 in the Corps 2004-2008. You should try to get service connection for your injury brother. I'm telling all my old boots to at least get into the VA system when they are on terminal or about to EAS.
On a side note, I'm preparing to take my NASM personal trainer certification test here in a few weeks.
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Nah I had full medical coverage so I only paid $100 out of pocket for everything.
My MOS was 0651, basically one of the guys who gave everyone internet in the field.
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For lifting two things are important: mixing up your routine to shock your body and staying flexible. If you're new to it, take your time and learn your limits slowly. The worst thing you can do is go too heavy off the rip and end up hurting yourself. If anyone is looking to put together a routine drop me a line on here and I'll be happy to help.
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That's awesome! If you got videos, articles - feel free to post them!
Couple more articles added to the front!
For those who just aren't building like you want to, this is one I guarantee that your body will feel, German Volume Training:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis13.htm
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/german-volume-training-for-shocking-muscle-growth.html
The first link has an already laid-out routine for those who just want cut and paste. For those who want more detail and want to work out their own regimen the second link just give you the layout and a lot of good comments down below as to how other people are going at it. I'm going to cycle this again at the end of the summer. The great thing about GVT is that if you do it correctly you're pretty much in and out of the gym in an hour every day.
MissionImprobable said:
For those who just aren't building like you want to, this is one I guarantee that your body will feel, German Volume Training:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis13.htm
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/german-volume-training-for-shocking-muscle-growth.html
The first link has an already laid-out routine for those who just want cut and paste. For those who want more detail and want to work out their own regimen the second link just give you the layout and a lot of good comments down below as to how other people are going at it. I'm going to cycle this again at the end of the summer. The great thing about GVT is that if you do it correctly you're pretty much in and out of the gym in an hour every day.
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I'll also attach this link - http://scoobysworkshop.com/losing-weight-and-building-6-pack-abs/
I know a lot of people would love to have abs - so having a practical approach would be great. Check the link out. No magic promises, just straight up facts!
Great post on the abs. It can be hard sometimes, especially for people who are expecting immediate results on their stomach because it really does take time. Also, if you're lifting for mass, and more specifically if you're doing something like the GVT mentioned above odds are you will not be able to maintain full definition in your abdominal area until you are done and go back to your cutting phase. I work abs four days a week or so and have pretty good definition, but as long as I'm bulking I just won't have washboard abs on the surface.
I do:
Cycling with a mtb(dhs whatever)
And running(a lot)
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Kill me, I don't think android is perfect

actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
Well, I want to kill you for making a hard to read post.
In before the lock?
I don't see anything specifically lock-worthy, but, just in case ib4c since Archer told us not to post ib4l ....it will probably go on for a bit since Archer is likely asleep and I don't see vanessaem online.

			
				
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tldr
OP suffers death by paper cuts.
But there's one thing perfect about android. It is always better than apple products. No matter how **** the android or how good the apple product.
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jacobgong said:
actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
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You make a thread titled "Android is not perfect" and don't give a single reason why it's not perfect. Instead you go insulting those who use the operating system (Which I would hardly call constructive criticism). Yes most of us realize that Android is not perfect. Software will never be perfect. There will always be better and more things to add. Now I agree with you in that some people take the specs of their phone way too seriously but that is not the majority of users.
P.S. It's not just Android people that will get mad if you start insulting. If you go to an Ubuntu forum and telling them that Linux is crap, they will yell at you. Same with an iPhone forum.
Oh and...
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I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
063_XOBX said:
I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
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Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
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I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
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Bless your heart, you made it that far.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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You must be a masochist.
TheSkinnyDrummer said:
I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
Y...M...C...A...
Everybody!
mf2112 said:
A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
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Did you just insult me? Too many 6+ letter words.
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