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Charging the battery with phone off makes it last longer?

Havent you noticed that when you charge the phone powered off it takes like 40 % more time for the batetry to charge but it also makes the battery last longer? is there any truth in this or im just crazy?

Chad_Petree said:
Havent you noticed that when you charge the phone powered off it takes like 40 % more time for the batetry to charge but it also makes the battery last longer? is there any truth in this or im just crazy?
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This is a very well know issue related to battery calibration. Take a look at the many calibration threads to learn about bump charging.
Basically, it takes longer with the phone off (or when you pull and put back the battery while charging) because in some cases android was stopping the charge before a full charge.
Try this
Charge your phone to 100% (inside android)
Turn you phone off
Reboot
Pull the battery before it boots
Wait for the ?
Put the battery back in and notice the %
If it says 60%, then you had 40% of your battery not being charge.
If you leave it in that spot and wait for it to go to 100%, your battery will be better calibrated.
Sent from my Milstone running CM7

Caz666 said:
This is a very well know issue related to battery calibration. Take a look at the many calibration threads to learn about bump charging.
Basically, it takes longer with the phone off (or when you pull and put back the battery while charging) because in some cases android was stopping the charge before a full charge.
Try this
Charge your phone to 100% (inside android)
Turn you phone off
Reboot
Pull the battery before it boots
Wait for the ?
Put the battery back in and notice the %
If it says 60%, then you had 40% of your battery not being charge.
If you leave it in that spot and wait for it to go to 100%, your battery will be better calibrated.
Sent from my Milstone running CM7
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and this hasnt been fixed even with gingerbread? yeah i have gotten the message saying it has 60 % :/

I pay no attention to the battery meter anymore. I've found that it just reads low. It's not that it doesn't get a fully charge, the phone can't read the level correctly. I tried draining the battery once by playing an episode of Top Gear with the screen on full brightness. The phone said the battery was at 5% but the video kept playing for another 1.5 hours.

baoli said:
I pay no attention to the battery meter anymore. I've found that it just reads low. It's not that it doesn't get a fully charge, the phone can't read the level correctly. I tried draining the battery once by playing an episode of Top Gear with the screen on full brightness. The phone said the battery was at 5% but the video kept playing for another 1.5 hours.
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noup , when my batetry says low , it dies pretty quickly

Go with mV.
4200mV=100%
3200mV=0%
Battery monitor widget kicks ass

zeppelinrox said:
Go with mV.
4200mV=100%
3200mV=0%
Battery monitor widget kicks ass
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mV?

Chad_Petree said:
mV?
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millivolt. there are other ways to read out this value... I'm using osmonitor, since it's installed anyways

[Q] CM (and others?) battery meter complete screw-up

My battery never charges above ~76% when plugged in. After rebooting however, it is very much at 100% and lasts for a good amount of time. This is not necessarily a question, but I wonder if others are experiencing this too and if there is a fix? Read below.
I noticed that my battery life got very bad after installing custom roms. I also found out that this happened because I sometimes kept the phone plugged in while flashing, something that totally screws up the battery reading. So, I followed this guide to calibrate my battery and it worked.
Now, whenever the phone is plugged in it NEVER goes to 100% when charging. Maybe 80% if leaving it for a while (10 hours overnight). I'm worried about frying the battery. Is there a fix?

It is only a matter of presentation. It actually doesn't mean your batt is broken. Plug it and charge it overnight. Then discharge only for few percent and plug it back in. It should go to 100%.
Sent from my HTC Legend

Thanks, I'll give it a try.
What I'm concerned about is if the phone "thinks" the battery isn't recharged and keeps squeezing juice into it when in fact it is full (which a reboot will show)? That's not good for the battery. It should go into trickle charge after reaching 100%..

The process described in the desire forum is also known as formatting the battery. In fact most of battery manufacturers (lithium battery manufacturers) recommend doing this in a slightly different way:
Before first use:
1.) Before powering the device on, plug it in and let it charge until the LED is green (fully charged)
2.) Then take the battery out of the device and wait an hour (to make sure all the chemical processes in the battery are as idle as possible)
3.) Then plug it back in, while still off and let it charge untill green LED
4.) use the device....
You can practice this slightly modified with first step being:
Discharge the battery (by normal use)until only few percent are left (1 - 5 % are OK)
I've done these steps with my Mugen extended battery and I was getting around 4 - 5 days on Legend, now I'm getting 2 - 3 days on Desire S, but the ROM isn't very optimized yet, I believe it will be better in time...

Just one thing... Why is this in Development!?

No Idea.....
can mods move this?

BlaY0 said:
It is only a matter of presentation. It actually doesn't mean your batt is broken. Plug it and charge it overnight. Then discharge only for few percent and plug it back in. It should go to 100%.
Sent from my HTC Legend
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sz1a did this solve your problem? Have the same problem with every firmware i've tried....

peddalion said:
sz1a did this solve your problem? Have the same problem with every firmware i've tried....
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Definitely did not solve it but at least the battery performance is ok. It just stays at 78% for a few hours drops from there. Very weird but as long as the battery doesn't get broken I guess it's ok.

Do you have some 3rd party battery installed in your Legend? I have one 1,5 Ah in mine and it is acting the same way. It doesn't bother me too much coz it was cheap... it lasts 48 hrs with data always on and moderate usage. I noticed this that when I charge it overnight and it reaches 80%, unplugging it stays at 80% for several hrs and just after it starts dropping if I plug it again, meter reaches 100%. It's weird but as I said I can live with that

I've got exactly the same issue with stock 2.2 ROM. I've never rooted or CM my phone; I was wondering if CM would do it, but doesn't look like it.
android forums /htc-legend/265545-battery-doesnt-fully-charge.html
(sorry, I can't post links; maybe an admin can fix the link for me?
This seems to indicate it's a phone hardware fault and requires a new Legend to fix! My big worry is, as stated, that the charging light never goes green; therefore is pumping lots of power into a potentially full battery.

[Q]Battery indicator showing wrong?

The last couple of days I've got a weird problem. When my battery is fully charged everything seems okay and it drains in normal speed (compared to stock).
But when my phone runs out off battery and i start to charge in the beginning everything seems fine.
But suddenly it can go from 75 to 100% in 1 minute.When i look at the stats in MIUI ROM it seems like it's not at same height as it was the last day of 100%. Maybe only 80%.
Sorry for my bad English, but i hope it makes sense.
I've wiped battery stats in CWM. But is it possible that the phone actually is only 80% charged, even though the indicator shows 100% after wipe?
Because if the ROM think the battery is charged and wipe stats it will afterwards only charge to that point and the battery maximum will decrease over days?
If that's possible, how do i full charge the battery? Just leave it in the charger or?
I hope you can understand what I mean.
Thanks in advance

Hello
Does your phone charge to fx 75% and after that doesnt get higher until after you restart the phone?
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App

CescMusta said:
Hello
Does your phone charge to fx 75% and after that doesnt get higher until after you restart the phone?
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App
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Yes excactly. But the numbers differs.
Today it charged to 100% though.
Got the same problem?
Sent from my Optimus 2X using XDA App

have you try calibrate your batt again
yes my friend have this problem too, maybe there is software bug

After flashing Celebration HD 2.0.1b I first used Battery Calibration from market to wipe battery stats. Afterwards the battery indicator problems started.
Yesterday i decided to wipe battery stats manually in CWM and drain to phone to 2% before charging, and afterwards I was able to fully charge the phone.
So maybe the bug in is Battery Calibration app?
I decided to install Juice Plotter to monitor the battery and compare it to one build in in MIUI. Just to get some more data.

Hello again
Yes i had the same problem as you, with my previosly 2 lg optimus 2x, and returned them because of the problem you mentioned. I am on the third op2x and luckily this work good
So if i were in your position i would try to go to the dealer and shift the phone with another lg optimus 2x.
Best regards
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App

CescMusta said:
So if i were in your position i would try to go to the dealer and shift the phone with another lg optimus 2x.
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The user said that he started to have problem after a new rom and wiping battery stats, changing phone for that is not the smartest move at all. Is like changing phone because your rom doesn't work.
I have a similar problem, after you wipe battery stats you don't have a reliable indicator, for me the phone took 3 hours to get from 99 to 100%.
I also noticed that my miui ( 1.8.5 same for 1.7.29) doesn't update battery stats when the screen is off so all those plotter don't work, and i think this messes up with the battery indicator (I guess the phone doesn't have enough data to make a decent estimate)
I think is miui + wipe battery stats that can be problematic

I know that but i am just saying that i also had the same problem with the stock rom.
Best regards
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App

How old is the battery? How many cycles does it have?
I know from laptop Li-Ion batteries that the voltage vs. capacity is not linear.
When discharging, the voltage will steadily drop to a "wear-level" where it will jump to an almost depleted level. When charging, this "wear-level" will be at the top.
Why I am telling this? Because if this mapping is kept in SW and you wiped it, Android needs to relearn it again. So at 1st complete charging/discharging you would see a % sudden drop/raise, but at the next cycles it would be linear with time (although the total time will be smaller than a new battery).
When laptop/phone battery tips talk about calibration, it is so whoever monitors the voltage (circuit in battery or SW) to know were the wear drop will be, so your estimates to be better.
As an example, I had a very old Thinkpad that did not have any calibration, and it would discharge to about 40% and drop to 5% within seconds. But when charging, it would raise steadily to 70% (from that 5%) but 70% to 95% in seconds. After years of use, that percentage gap would just increase (40-5 got 60-5, 70-5 on discharging).
PS: my current Thinkpad has 4 years and the battery capacity is 49% with 150 cycles. But this one has a nice feature where if the battery was above a certain percentage, plugging AC would not charge it (and thus save a few cycles). I used it set at 70%.
PS: LiIon batteries have cycle count, heat and time as main enemies. Also don't like prolonged (think storage) low charge.

battery on wallcharger screen of error
CenaDK said:
The last couple of days I've got a weird problem. When my battery is fully charged everything seems okay and it drains in normal speed (compared to stock).
But when my phone runs out off battery and i start to charge in the beginning everything seems fine.
But suddenly it can go from 75 to 100% in 1 minute.When i look at the stats in MIUI ROM it seems like it's not at same height as it was the last day of 100%. Maybe only 80%.
Sorry for my bad English, but i hope it makes sense.
I've wiped battery stats in CWM. But is it possible that the phone actually is only 80% charged, even though the indicator shows 100% after wipe?
Because if the ROM think the battery is charged and wipe stats it will afterwards only charge to that point and the battery maximum will decrease over days?
If that's possible, how do i full charge the battery? Just leave it in the charger or?
I hope you can understand what I mean.
Thanks in advance
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I have when i turn off my fhone and i charge it it shows a battery icon whit an error in it ics lgp990 please help i dont no what tho do

[Q] battery never reaches 100% when phone is off

Hi,
I am trying to do the battery calibration piece but my phone never reaches 100% when the phone is off i charged it for almost 3-4 Hrs.
can some one help me?

New battery, like $10

i have two batteries now still i see the same issue, it started once i moved to GB Roms, before it was pretty good.

It is normal between 96% and 99%.

Is it normal to not reach 100% when i turn the phone off and charge it?

kethireddy said:
Is it normal to not reach 100% when i turn the phone off and charge it?
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There has been talk about this occurrence before, but basically it's a battery-life saving feature of Gingerbread. Rather than hold your battery at 100%, which will decrease the battery's life, it charges to 100%, lets it dip down to a certain threshold (like 90%, for example), then recharges again.
That's my understanding, anyway.

jmtheiss said:
There has been talk about this occurrence before, but basically it's a battery-life saving feature of Gingerbread. Rather than hold your battery at 100%, which will decrease the battery's life, it charges to 100%, lets it dip down to a certain threshold (like 90%, for example), then recharges again.
That's my understanding, anyway.
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kethireddy said:
Is it normal to not reach 100% when i turn the phone off and charge it?
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Like jmtheiss said t's a GB surge protection not to overcharge the battery. It's a feature not a bug

does this mean we can do battery calibration on GB roms?

kethireddy said:
does this mean we can do battery calibration on GB roms?
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Yahh, that never changed.....
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium

Two things regarding Battery Calibration :
1. For Better Battery Life : Always charge upto about 90% and use. Recharge when you reach 10% or even less. This will tremendously increase the life span of Li-Ion battery.
2. As regard to 100% charging :
(i) Boot to CWM, wipe battery stats.
(ii) Reboot and charge until 100%, Disconnect from charger
(ii) Power Off and connect charger again. Charge until 100%
(iii) Boot to CWM, wipe battery stats again.
(iv) Power on the phone and charge until 100%
Done.
Repeat the same, if you wish to re-calibrate the battery after some time.
Tip: Always re-calibrate battery and charge to 100% before flashing any ROM.

ROMMaker said:
Two things regarding Battery Calibration :
1. For Better Battery Life : Always charge upto about 90% and use. Recharge when you reach 10% or even less. This will tremendously increase the life span of Li-Ion battery.
2. As regard to 100% charging :
(i) Boot to CWM, wipe battery stats.
(ii) Reboot and charge until 100%, Disconnect from charger
(ii) Power Off and connect charger again. Charge until 100%
(iii) Boot to CWM, wipe battery stats again.
(iv) Power on the phone and charge until 100%
Done.
Repeat the same, if you wish to re-calibrate the battery after some time.
Tip: Always re-calibrate battery and charge to 100% before flashing any ROM.
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i am trying to follow these steps but my phone never reaches 100% @ the third step i have been charging it for 3 hrs..

Which ROM are you using? Because I know some ROMS have specific issue with battery charging. Please let me know

ROMMaker said:
Which ROM are you using? Because I know some ROMS have specific issue with battery charging. Please let me know
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I was using MUI GB rom

kethireddy said:
I was using MUI GB rom
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As I fiddled around with most of the ROMs out here in XDA, would suggest you to flash a KK4 build like Serenity or Illiminance, if you want a stable GB ROM. KK4 is the latest captivate GB leak and the ROM is awesome. Also, the ad-hoc wi-fi through modifided wpa_supplicant works in this build. The ROM is fast, stable and got good battery life. Try to flash the ROM and I'm sure you will get a great GB ROM without troubles.
Hit thanks, If I helped you out

Try charging with screen on. You'll hit100.

mrhaley30705 said:
Try charging with screen on. You'll hit100.
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with screen on i am able to hit 100 but to calibrate arn't we supposed to get it with phone turned off.

[Q] just wanna ask x8 battery life

hello
i just wanna ask something about my battery life on my x8...here's how it goes first i fully charge my battery up to 100% until it says on status battery full...then i unplugged it..after it i texted for a few minutes...and i check the status of my battery and it says: 28 mins 23s on battery..my battery is on 96%..is this normal.? or somethings draining my battery,?
i use minicm7 2.2

this is normal since battery is heating itself while charging, and when it cools down it shows less percentage of itself... to maximaze your current battery life, calibrate the battery:
1. charge it to 100% no more no less
2. leave the charger PLUGGED IN, and reboot to CWM
3. there you should find somewhere under options or advanced "wipe battery stats", and you press that
4. reboot your device and when it starts up it will show about 91%, charge it to 100% and you have your battery calibrated
NOTE: the charger is always plugged in

ok thanks i'll try it... one question should i drain the battery before calibrating it.?..as in zero percent??

menos_grande said:
ok thanks i'll try it... one question should i drain the battery before calibrating it.?..as in zero percent??
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Yes , that is recommended.
Also , one advice from me.
Even after calibration , whenever your phone says 100% charged , reboot it while the charger is plugged. You will get the exact battery charge after reboot.
Do it every time your recharge your phone.
Then stop rebooting when you get a 99% or 100% after a fresh reboot. Trust me , it helps.

ok thanks for the advice i'll try that too...

it is normal dude ....mine is giving 1day on heavy use

use zepplinrox's supercharge script...it really made a CONSIDERABLE change to m battery usage time

I have one question: "Why my battery is giving 6-8h. My battery 2 days ago giving 24 and more hour." Sorry for my English, but i am from Poland

what happened 2 days ago? did you install new ROM?

The OP might not have needed to install a new ROM, just an APP or maybe just a combination of APPs running. My phone sometimes canes the battery in a couple of hours from 50% to nothing for no apparent reason. On both stock and custom (actually better battery life on custom) it lasts about a day but sometimes about 6 hours! Not sure what is going on as this happened on both the stock 1.6, 2.1 and the custom 2.3.4!