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Hi,
I have my D810 upgraded to the new HK D810 GPS Enabled Rom
(Rom 1.23.708.4, Radio 1.38.00.11)
and since then my 3G is not working quite right, I can get full bar of 3G, but I just couldn't make a call or recieve any call. And I'm on the Cingular network in the US.
Before I upgrade the rom, I can access the 3G with no problem. Now I can make a call only if I force my D810 to stay on the GSM network (2G).
Can somebody help? Or should I downgrade my rom back to the original dopod D810 rom? If yes, where can I find it?
Thanks.
Try using HTC tweaker to turn off HSDPA, that did the trick for me
Does it mean I can never use HSDPA on my D810 ?
ok, I've disable HSDPA, but it still can't make any call on 3G.....
man... now I hate the new rom... I rather don't have GPS but have my phone working...
have you have checked Start-->Settings-->Phone-->Band Tab--> and ensure that the Network Type is "Auto" or "WCDMA" and NOT GSM? and also ensure that the GSM/UMTS band is set correctly? (now, I'm really nervous about using that ROM!!!)
i have all the Band and Network setting right...
some people from the other forum say it is the network issue from Cingular because they are having the same issue, but on other phones.
it is quite weird, i can make a call under 3G in certain area within Chicago, but anywhere near my work office, it won't work...
And as usual, the cingular cs are useless, they don't even know what is going on
Hi there,
Can anyone please assist?
Whenever I select a phone Band of WCDMA and am operating on HSDPA [H], my Touch Diamond which is on Hutchison 3's Network, has very poor reception whenever indoors and has lots of call dropouts. The phone shows just the dot below the Antenna Icon or just one bar to the right, most of the time while on HSDPA.
Whenever I select a phone Band of GSM, and the phone switches to an Edge connection [E] then I have nearly full signal strength, but this is considered "Roaming" off my network service provider and therefore is much more expensive to use. (What a scam!).
I have tried installing several radio ROM's but it has not made any difference to the signal strength and dropout problems. The Radio ROMs tried so far:
1.09.25.23 Official (Quad Band)(52.51.25.26H)
1.08.25.20 Official (Quad Band)(52.44.25.24H)
1.08.25.08 Official (Quad Band)(52.44.25.24U)
1.00.25.BS14 Official (Quad Band)
1.00.25.06
The phone has had this problem with HSDPA signals since I purchased it.
My questions are:
1. Have other people experienced this kind of issue and is poor reception indoors normal when on HSDPA [H]?
2. Is there a way to force a Touch Diamond, say through a registry hack, to use a Band of WCDMA but stay on [3G] instead of using [H] ?
3. Is it more likely that my phone is a good candidate for a warranty return as perhaps the antenna is dodgy?
4. Are there any other suggestions I can try to fix this problem?
Any guidance here is appreciated.
Thanks,
nanohaxor
HTC Touch Diamond (Telstra branded phone)
ROM: 1.93.861.4 WWE
Radio: 1.05.25.BS14
Network: Hutchison 3 Australia
DIAM130 MFG 64M
SPL-1.40.OliNex
nanohaxor said:
My questions are:
1. Have other people experienced this kind of issue and is poor reception indoors normal when on HSDPA [H]?
2. Is there a way to force a Touch Diamond, say through a registry hack, to use a Band of WCDMA but stay on [3G] instead of using [H] ?
3. Is it more likely that my phone is a good candidate for a warranty return as perhaps the antenna is dodgy?
4. Are there any other suggestions I can try to fix this problem?
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I love my Diamond and think that it is one of the best PDAs I have used. Its small size is just perfect for me, and I find other phones eg iPhone, Touch HD too big for me as a phone. I have customised it to the extent that I get no lag issues and it runs really fast.
The one flaw which I haven't been able to fix is its poor 3G/HSDPA reception compared to other phones like my previous Nokia. (The iPhone suffers from this problem also).
You obviously live or work in a poor 3G reception area for Three. When your phone switches from 3G to GSM, it will invariably drop the call if you are on a call. If the 3G reception is strong, indoors or outdoors, there will be no problems. 3G reception can fluctuate especially indoors. I dont think there is any fault with your phone.
Your options are to:
1) Change mobile phone provider
2) Force the phone to use GSM in low 3G signal areas and you will have no problems with call drop outs. There is no extra cost for roaming in GSM with Three for calls, only for data.
I use option 2, since I use WI-FI in the house for all my data needs. The easiest way to do this is to use Comm Manager, under Settings, Phone, Band, and then select GSM in 'Network Type' to force it to use GSM, or WCDMA to force it to use 3G/HSDPA. The other option is Auto, which is the cause of the problem. I use a hack which enables a '3G' toggle in Comm Manager so that I can change from 3G to GSM with the simple touch of a button.
You will also find that the battery life of the Diamond is really poor when it has to constantly change from 3G to GSM and vice versa. On the other hand, forcing it to use GSM and only switching on 3G when you use data, will actually prolong the battery life. I get up to 2+ days battery life when using GSM only.
Riker88 said:
I love my Diamond and think that it is one of the best PDAs I have used. Its small size is just perfect for me, and I find other phones eg iPhone, Touch HD too big for me as a phone. I have customised it to the extent that I get no lag issues and it runs really fast.
The one flaw which I haven't been able to fix is its poor 3G/HSDPA reception compared to other phones like my previous Nokia. (The iPhone suffers from this problem also).
You obviously live or work in a poor 3G reception area for Three. When your phone switches from 3G to GSM, it will invariably drop the call if you are on a call. If the 3G reception is strong, indoors or outdoors, there will be no problems. 3G reception can fluctuate especially indoors. I dont think there is any fault with your phone.
Your options are to:
1) Change mobile phone provider
2) Force the phone to use GSM in low 3G signal areas and you will have no problems with call drop outs. There is no extra cost for roaming in GSM with Three for calls, only for data.
I use option 2, since I use WI-FI in the house for all my data needs. The easiest way to do this is to use Comm Manager, under Settings, Phone, Band, and then select GSM in 'Network Type' to force it to use GSM, or WCDMA to force it to use 3G/HSDPA. The other option is Auto, which is the cause of the problem. I use a hack which enables a '3G' toggle in Comm Manager so that I can change from 3G to GSM with the simple touch of a button.
You will also find that the battery life of the Diamond is really poor when it has to constantly change from 3G to GSM and vice versa. On the other hand, forcing it to use GSM and only switching on 3G when you use data, will actually prolong the battery life. I get up to 2+ days battery life when using GSM only.
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Riker88, appreciate your comments and feedback. Thanks.
I tried my 3 SIM in another Touch Diamond and found the problem with poor HSDPA reception on Hutchison 3 was exactly the same on the other phone. This likely means it's the provider, or phone + provider combination. In either case, darn it !!
I generally operate with the phone band selection on WCDMA, rather than GSM or Auto. I noticed yesterday while driving around the city that my phone switched from the HSDPA (ie. 3.5G) service with the [H] icon on the screen to the 3G (ie. 3.0G) service with the [3G] icon on the screen, and the [3G] service signal was stronger. What I'm wondering is this:
Is there a way to force the Touch Diamond to use [3G] all the time, instead of [H]?
nanohaxor
nanohaxor said:
Riker88, appreciate your comments and feedback. Thanks.
I tried my 3 SIM in another Touch Diamond and found the problem with poor HSDPA reception on Hutchison 3 was exactly the same on the other phone. This likely means it's the provider, or phone + provider combination. In either case, darn it !!
I generally operate with the phone band selection on WCDMA, rather than GSM or Auto. I noticed yesterday while driving around the city that my phone switched from the HSDPA (ie. 3.5G) service with the [H] icon on the screen to the 3G (ie. 3.0G) service with the [3G] icon on the screen, and the [3G] service signal was stronger. What I'm wondering is this:
Is there a way to force the Touch Diamond to use [3G] all the time, instead of [H]?
nanohaxor
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From my understanding, you should get same radio signal strength no matter it is 3G or HSDPA enabled. Your observation may be your original signal (with HSDPA) is too weak and hand-over to another radio station that have stronger signal but no hsdpa.
I also notice that the 3G reception capability of diamond is weak. But this is nothing dealing with hsdpa.
snufkin wrote:
"I also notice that the 3G reception capability of diamond is weak. But this is nothing dealing with hsdpa. "
From what i've seen - that's true. (i have the same problem).
Hey gusy I just got my Aussie HD with 3G on 850mhz but I think I crapped it up. I did a hard spl then went to a custom rom and now I have no 3g when I did before. Can anyone please point me in the right direction.
Thanks,
turcomora said:
Hey gusy I just got my Aussie HD with 3G on 850mhz but I think I crapped it up. I did a hard spl then went to a custom rom and now I have no 3g when I did before. Can anyone please point me in the right direction.
Thanks,
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it would help if you tell us what custom ROM you used AND if that ROM included a Radio. if it didn't include a radio, you should be ok... also, can you get an internet connection? did try going into Phone->Menu->Options->Band Tab->and select WCDMA for GSM and the 850/1900 UMTS band -> click OK and then see if you get a signal? these answers may help us solve your issue.
OK so I found the telstra rom and what back to it. Still could not get 3G. But with that rom I did at least have the 850mhz as an option under settings, phone, band. I was for sure that Houston had the 850mhz but I could be wrong. So now I am on Rom version: 1:19:831:0 (25581) Radio 1.10.25.25. Let me try changing those settings like you suggested. Is your reception good up there in Dallas?
my reception in dallas depends on my location... at home i usually get a solid EDGE signal. i'll get a stronger 3G signal if i go outside. conversely, here in KC, i have a solid 3G signal everywhere i go. so what ROM did you flash to your phone? and did you flash a Radio ROM as well?
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OK so I found the telstra rom and what back to it. Still could not get 3G. But with that rom I did at least have the 850mhz as an option under settings, phone, band. I was for sure that Houston had the 850mhz but I could be wrong.
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Not every area in the US is covered by the 3G 850mhz bandwidth by at&t. I wish the online retailers would put. May work in North America. I'm sure if you traveled around the state a bit you would find that your phone gets 3G in some areas.
I also have the option to select 850 and 1900 GSM & 3G in the settings.
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Not every area in the US is covered by the 3G 850mhz bandwidth by at&t. I wish the online retailers would put. May work in North America. I'm sure if you traveled around the state a bit you would find that your phone gets 3G in some areas.
I also have the option to select 850 and 1900 GSM & 3G in the settings.
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May I ask what rom & radio you are using? The original Telstra rom & radio show under settings, phone, options, bands the 850 spectrum and a bunch of different combinations. I hate the tf3d on the telstra rom because it is loaded with all of there carrier stuff but I want 3G. It seems that when I change roms even if I keep the same original radio I lose all those band spectrums under settings, phone, options, bands. What would you suggest?
cortez.i said:
my reception in dallas depends on my location... at home i usually get a solid EDGE signal. i'll get a stronger 3G signal if i go outside. conversely, here in KC, i have a solid 3G signal everywhere i go. so what ROM did you flash to your phone? and did you flash a Radio ROM as well?
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Well right now I went bacl to the telstra rom & radio because I seem to lose bands if I change rom even keeping radio the same. May I ask what rom & radio you are running?
i'm running Dutty's 2.1 ROM with the new Manila. i had the same thing happen to me: one minute the Band Tab (under phone settings) are there and the next they're gone. there are 2 fixes i use when this happens: (a) simply soft-reset and they appear or (b) use a registry editor to goto HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting and then change the setting for ShowUMTSBandPage to 1. Sometimes i have to change the other Show****Page seetings as well. right now, my device is set to Auto for BandType and Network Type and i'm getting the H symbol everywhere i go in Kansas City. i know that once i get back to Dallas, the same settings will cause my signal to vasolate between H and E depending on where i am, e.g., at home it will likely be E. if you didn't flash a different radio, you should be ok. like AllTheWay said, you're probably not in an area with a strong 850 3G signal.
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i'm running Dutty's 2.1 ROM with the new Manila. i had the same thing happen to me: one minute the Band Tab (under phone settings) are there and the next they're gone. there are 2 fixes i use when this happens: (a) simply soft-reset and they appear or (b) use a registry editor to goto HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting and then change the setting for ShowUMTSBandPage to 1. Sometimes i have to change the other Show****Page seetings as well. right now, my device is set to Auto for BandType and Network Type and i'm getting the H symbol everywhere i go in Kansas City. i know that once i get back to Dallas, the same settings will cause my signal to vasolate between H and E depending on where i am, e.g., at home it will likely be E. if you didn't flash a different radio, you should be ok. like AllTheWay said, you're probably not in an area with a strong 850 3G signal.
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I really appreciate the help. I am going to try to dutty's rom right now. His rom does it come with a radio? I will install phm reg edit and try that fix also. Thanks alot man, I will post my results.
turcomora said:
I really appreciate the help. I am going to try to dutty's rom right now. His rom does it come with a radio? I will install phm reg edit and try that fix also. Thanks alot man, I will post my results.
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no, Dutty's 2.1 ROM does not come with a radio. what ROM did you flash that cuased the BandPage to disappear?
I used the newest wwwe shipped rom. But the used udk's custom RUU and placed the nbh file from the old radio back into it.
Hey guys, I am considering getting the telstra version HD soon, I was just wondering what do I need to do to set up the phone for ATT, or is it good to go out of the box?
Also will all the phone features function normally with ATT? Thanks for any input.
Also wondering if i have read this thread correctly, as long as I do not change the radio and only upgrade the ROM after HardSpl, then I should keep the 850mhz 3g?
Same here I have a european version of HD. What do I need to install to get the 850 3G on ATT ? please advice
daraj said:
Same here I have a european version of HD. What do I need to install to get the 850 3G on ATT ? please advice
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you need another phone, a.k.a., the Telstra Touch HD. you will not be able to get 850 3G with the UK version of the Touch HD.
the telstra hd (T8285) is good to go on AT&T and Tmobile in the US....
straight out of the box...
another question i have is that i have the EURO HD. (t8282)..
in the BAND TAB (under phone settings) i have the options
UMTS (850 +1900) +GSM (850+1900)
does this mean that my phone will get 3g on an 850 MHZ network?
like AT&T or telstra in australia?
cheers
cortez.i said:
you need another phone, a.k.a., the Telstra Touch HD. you will not be able to get 850 3G with the UK version of the Touch HD.
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Can you point me to a good place or website to purchase the Aussie version because I I see online is the Euro version.
daraj said:
Can you point me to a good place or website to purchase the Aussie version because I I see online is the Euro version.
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here you go..
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-Touch-HD-T8282-T8285-Telstra-US-8-GB-Micro-SD_W0QQitemZ280322363132QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Mobile_Phones?hash=item280322363132&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1308
Hi guys,
I brought my first xperia from my phone serivce provider, and it always had the "3g" symbol at the top. However, when my xperia broke, I had to buy another one and got one of ebay. Since I brought the new one, my phone always has the 3 on top. I'm currently using the firestorm valkyrie rom which as the htc interface. When I go to the data connections it says an option (3g) "change to gsm mode" and on is selected. Even when I toggle that, it still always has the E symbol. What do I need to do? I know my sim card is cabable of getting the 3g. But this is a real pain because every now and then my phone just doesnt receive service, so I constantly go onto the comm manager and then it seems to just click that there's service and shows 2-3 bars. Then all of a sudden again after a while there'll be no service. So I'm guessing that's because of the E thing. It shouldn't be my current location as I've never experienced this before.
Is there a setting I can go to to get the 3g symbol? Or a patch I might need for the phone?
Please help
Kindest regards.
You need to change while the connection is not active, I believe. Or... you got the Xperia version incompatible with your network... Or... the ROM is buggy, try another.
sorry, I need to change specificially what when the connection is not active? Say you mean, turn off my phone settings and not connect to the network and then adjust something? It is not the rom. and the seller on ebay has stated that it is a 3g phone - many others have brought it as well with no complaints.
3G settings on x1
Hi
For some reason your phone is only camping on the GSM network (G or E indication depending if your carrier provide GPRS or EDGE on the GSM) instead of the 3G network (which you have been using before).
In settings, communications you should be able to set "3G change to automode" to on,
When this is set your network provider will tell your phone to use the 3G as preffered network, but when coverage is not good enough it will drop you back to 2G (which has a better reach due to lower frequency band).
If it does not happen automatically there might be another setting that is wrong,
goto settings, all settings, personal (tab), Phone.. then choose the "band" tab (need to go to the left with the arrows) , then you have the dropdwn lists to set:
select you network type (need to set auto or wcdma to get 3G)
select your GSM/UMTS band (need to set 900+1800 for europe, 1900+850 for us, dont know who is using 2100+800)
once changed the phone will restart the phone part and search for your carrier in the right band.
good luck
Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I had changed the automode to on. But still had the E.
I went to the setings, and band tab, and i had selected:
Select your network type:
(blank)
Select your GSM/UMTS band:
Auto.
I changed the first oen to auto, and as for the last, here in Australia I'm with Tesltra which is 850 UMTS? I think I read online. Anyway it didn't have the option in there, so I went through them all but wouldnt get service at all except for the first: GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900). and Auto. I think my last experia might have had auto for all of those too. Anyway with those only two options working, I still get the E icon. Even tried setting aeroplane mode on and then off to see if it might register, but it didn't.
sianlee said:
Hi,
I changed the first oen to auto, and as for the last, here in Australia I'm with Tesltra which is 850 UMTS? I think I read online. .
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I see , Telstra is one of very few networks that use 850 for WCDMA so they might be using a different RADIO ROM than the rest of us
I saw in the thread below that there is a TELSTRA AUSTRALIA (1.03.841.8) R2AA008 version..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477801&highlight=telstra
you probably need to flash that one to get the 3G working on telstra..
3 is using the normal 2100 so you could also try with their SIM just to check that there is nothing wrong with your hardware..
Sorry for the late reply.
I have realised that i'm in an area that doesn't support 3g. however my last xperia phone which I brought from telstra was the x1a, which had the next g network - hence I got the 3g symbol. However I have found that that I have the x1i, which doesn't list that network. I rang up telstra, and they transferred me to the sony erricson call centre, and they said you can try and do an update but it is not gaurenteed to get the next g service. I have already flashed a htc rom and don't particluarly want to change it back, unless i'm certain that I will get the next g service.
With the rom you have provided, do you think it will have the UMTS 850 band on there, and my x1i would be able to connect to it? I would have thought that it would be a hardware preference, not a software. In which case, even if I updated the rom because there is say no "chip" that allows for connecting to that band, it wont connec to it even though I may have selected the 850 UMTS band.
Sorry if that seems all over the place, but yeah... I'm not sure.
Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
donniesd said:
Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
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It is.........
hah2110 said:
It is.........
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Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
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Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
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What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
hah2110 said:
What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
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I am in 3G.
I have no problems when putting my sim in my tp2. And talking while surfing.
And i am not the only one. No one has givein a reason as to why.
Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
It should work. I do it all the time, but it is network dependent.
In case it works on your TP2 i suggest you check your settings.
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
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Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
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Incorrect. "WCDMA only" is still UMTS/HSPA (3G/3.5G in consumer speak), therefore you still get voice/data at once. I can only conclude that you're under the assumption that UMTS/GSM work the same way EVDO/CDMA does. On an EVDO network, all data goes through the EVDO network, while voice stays on 1xCDMA, because EVDO is an addon to 1xCDMA.
UMTS and GSM are two completely incompatible technologies that only share GSM backend features and a SIM card. The circuits in the phone are separate, the antennas on the towers are separate. You're either completely on UMTS for voice and data (inc. both at the same time) or you're completely on GSM (for voice or data but not both at once. In fact, if you're locked on to a strong UMTS signal, the parts of your phone that handle GSM shut down for power conservation and only wake up when your signal drops to check to see if you'll get a superior signal over GSM. It will do this periodically, but won't stay active for long unless your UMTS is so bad that you won't be able to hold a call. THEN your phone powers up and maintains the GSM radio, while putting the UMTS radio on standby, only powering it up momentarily to look for a better signal.
The only time you have GSM and WCDMA/UMTS powered on at the same time is during hand-offs from one network to the other. That's why staying in areas where you bounce between the two kills your battery so quickly, the radio is drawing roughly twice as much juice as it normally does, plus it's computing which one will do the better job for the moment. Even then, at that time, the phone and its OS will be using only one of the networks at a time, and if it's UMTS, you'll be able to hold a call and surf the web.
rx7freak said:
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
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TMO on TMO.
Attached are my settings.
I have this on every rom or radio i try.
Hey, sort of same thing just happened to me
in my case using GSM Auto (prl) or WCDMA prefered I can connect to HSDPA but GSM is in emergency calls only, weird.
but I can do both on GSM only (GPRS/EDGE)
Re-flashed to official release of 2.1 same thing.
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
RogerPodacter said:
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
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I am connected to 3G network. Call comes in. I can not browse on the internet. While i am on the call i go check settings and i have droped to GPRS. As soon as i hang up i go back to 3G (HSDPA)
Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
RogerPodacter said:
Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
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It is.
I have no problem on my TP2.
I use it often too but today I was unable to it. Hopefully its because my area is being updated to hsdpa+
i think i have the same problem. 3G drops during voice call, doesn't connect during the call. reconnects after the call ends.
stock nexus one tmobile FRG83D
When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
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When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
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Yeah, that is normal and it really sucks when you're on a long call. Once you lose 3G signal it's gone for good. I don't know if it's a network problem, or the phone, but it should be fixed.