I have been reading all these threads and can't figgure out what rooting a nc makes it? Do you get the function of a full android tablet? Android market, mp3s, a web browser?
Yes on pretty much all counts, however you can also boot from a microsd card to get a full os without rooting.
kraash said:
I have been reading all these threads and can't figgure out what rooting a nc makes it? Do you get the function of a full android tablet? Android market, mp3s, a web browser?
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Full Android tablet- Yes
Market - Yes
MP3s - Could already do this without rooting, but you can now choose other programs if you dont like the stock version.
Web Browser - Again, stock has one, but you can get MUCH MUCH better ones after rooting.
But really, it unlocks the full potential of this tablet. BAsically, anything that any other android phone can do, this can do; with teh exception of GPS, Camera, and (currently) bluetooth. The system seems to have its bluetooth hardware, an devs are working on a fix for the software.. so we may soon get support for bluetooth headsets, etc.
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Full Android tablet- Yes
Market - Yes
MP3s - Could already do this without rooting, but you can now choose other programs if you dont like the stock version.
Web Browser - Again, stock has one, but you can get MUCH MUCH better ones after rooting.
But really, it unlocks the full potential of this tablet. BAsically, anything that any other android phone can do, this can do; with teh exception of GPS, Camera, and (currently) bluetooth. The system seems to have its bluetooth hardware, an devs are working on a fix for the software.. so we may soon get support for bluetooth headsets, etc.
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It would be cool to attach a bluetooth key board and mouse when needed to be able to ssh into a server.
dcontrol said:
Yes on pretty much all counts, however you can also boot from a microsd card to get a full os without rooting.
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Can you point to a thread about his. I thought you had to root to boot off of the SD card.
rlkelley said:
Can you point to a thread about his. I thought you had to root to boot off of the SD card.
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Any one of the Froyo SD card threads will do. Because the nook, rooted or not, will automatically boot off SD before the built in memory, it is possible to boot a whole OS outside of the stock, without needing to be rooted..not much more to it than that.
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Any one of the Froyo SD card threads will do. Because the nook, rooted or not, will automatically boot off SD before the built in memory, it is possible to boot a whole OS outside of the stock, without needing to be rooted..not much more to it than that.
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Which is better, full root, or os on sd?
Is the processor on this thing good enough for either to be worth it?
kraash said:
Which is better, full root, or os on sd?
Is the processor on this thing good enough for either to be worth it?
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Honestly, i see little reason not to root, and have an SD image, but it is up to the users. For my daily use on the nook, i am rooted, and have plenty of customizing done. The hardware is great, but I did not like B&N's home screen..
And the processor is awesome, especially overclocked to 1.1Ghz (same core architecture as the iPad, but .1Ghz faster). The graphics card is mid ranged, but by no means bad, and can handle most any android game out right now.
Divine_Madcat said:
Honestly, i see little reason not to root, and have an SD image, but it is up to the users. For my daily use on the nook, i am rooted, and have plenty of customizing done. The hardware is great, but I did not like B&N's home screen..
And the processor is awesome, especially overclocked to 1.1Ghz (same core architecture as the iPad, but .1Ghz faster). The graphics card is mid ranged, but by no means bad, and can handle most any android game out right now.
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madcat, which root option do you like for it?
kraash said:
madcat, which root option do you like for it?
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I used the Auto nooter for 1.01.. though really, any option yields the same results in the end.
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I have 2 vogues one with android Myns Dark and one with Winmo on it.
I wanted to be able to have the ability to swap back and forth easy without continual reinstall to go from one operating system to the next (hence 2 vogues)
The Problem is when I swap phones on sprint I loose my internet and my phone cannot IOTA to enable the internet properly on the android vogue.
I had to install winmo then run IOTA and then reinstall android(defeating the purpose of 2 vogues) to get my internet working.
Is there a better way. Can we IOTA in android on the vogue?[/B]
maybe run android off your sd card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5542510&postcount=4
Defeats purpose
I don't want to use SD card Have to wait on winmo all the time! I can run off SD Card on Winmo android.
You might take a look at this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
I have tried this... still defeats purpose
skipbarker said:
You might take a look at this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
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I want to use 2 different phones makes things so much better, I can have operating system on NAND on both phones.
Any one have any ideas of how to program internet on android after activating phone without having to install winmo first????
bblount said:
I want to use 2 different phones makes things so much better, I can have operating system on NAND on both phones.
Any one have any ideas of how to program internet on android after activating phone without having to install winmo first????
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What no one has any answer, guess that means there is no way to do this??
I think running Android on the SDcard would be easier.
I cheated, both my sprint phones have the same ESN so I don't have to worry about going to the website. Repairing an ESN on the Touch is pretty easy. Do a search if you want go that route. I think directions are available on this site. It won't fix your current issue though.
I believe sometimes sprint changes your data password, so if you have a phone that as not been used for a while it's data won't work. I always run DCD's config file and it seems to fix it but every now and then my Titan refuses to update and I have play with it to get it to work. I would back up my Android phone, reflash WinMo, run DCD's config file and make sure you have data. Then reflash the Android loader, Android install and the restore your backup. You will probably have to redo your display density.
Thank you
gedster314 said:
I think running Android on the SDcard would be easier.
I cheated, both my sprint phones have the same ESN so I don't have to worry about going to the website. Repairing an ESN on the Touch is pretty easy. Do a search if you want go that route. I think directions are available on this site. It won't fix your current issue though.
I believe sometimes sprint changes your data password, so if you have a phone that as not been used for a while it's data won't work. I always run DCD's config file and it seems to fix it but every now and then my Titan refuses to update and I have play with it to get it to work. I would back up my Android phone, reflash WinMo, run DCD's config file and make sure you have data. Then reflash the Android loader, Android install and the restore your backup. You will probably have to redo your display density.
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I looked into the esn cloning and the link was down to the site that gave instructions and info about that. That is what I would like to do!
I have already gotten the internet working by reinstalling winmo.
I would like to clone my esn. Can you give me a tutorial or a place to download it?
THanks!
I had a wifi only Tab before so I'm not unfamiliar with Tab devices. Or so I thought. I bought a Sprint Tab off Woot recently. I sold the Wifi Tab on ebay and basically traded up for better hardware at no cost.
Anyway, the Tab from Sprint came in today and I find I have two questions.
1. This Tab appears to have no internal memory. When I go to settings for the SD card, it only sees my external card. That's also all that maps on my computer. The Wifi Tab had either 8 or 16 gb internal plus and external card. Is this normal?
2. I was under the impression that I was going to have to activate this thing with Sprint for at least a month. That doesn't appear to be the case though. It does gripe at me to activate, but doesn't seem to be forcing me to do so and even without being activated has pulled down at least two OTA updates. Is this normal?
1. This Tab appears to have no internal memory. When I go to settings for the SD card, it only sees my external card. That's also all that maps on my computer. The Wifi Tab had either 8 or 16 gb internal plus and external card. Is this normal?
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Your internal memory is not an sd card. It isn't listed in that section.
2. I was under the impression that I was going to have to activate this thing with Sprint for at least a month. That doesn't appear to be the case though. It does gripe at me to activate, but doesn't seem to be forcing me to do so and even without being activated has pulled down at least two OTA updates. Is this normal?
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Pulling down the updates occurs over wifi, it will happen regardless of CDMA service.
If you want to get rid of the hassles:
First root, use superoneclick, its the easiest method.
Then use a program such as root uninstaller to uninstall sprintadroidextension.apk (you can also freeze it, allegedly).
Once you do this, be aware that if Sprint updates it won't download properly and start harassing you about that instead (albeit less frequently). The only solutions are to reflash back to stock and then update, or modify your build.prop file to change the build id (I used remount and notepad to do it).
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Your internal memory is not an sd card. It isn't listed in that section.
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It was on my wifi tab.
Pulling down the updates occurs over wifi, it will happen regardless of CDMA service.
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It pulled down two updates before I even connected it to my wifi.
I rooted with SuperOneClick and now have these OTA's downloading... I'm wondering what the pro's and con's are with taking these two OTA's? Have you already rooted prior to taking the OTA's?
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I rooted with SuperOneClick and now have these OTA's downloading... I'm wondering what the pro's and con's are with taking these two OTA's? Have you already rooted prior to taking the OTA's?
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No, I got the OTA's before rooting. I turned it on and one was there. It rebooted and another was there right away.
Well I guess I'll find out when I get home if it loses root, which I assume can be restored again... rather, I hope :]
I guess next for me is recovery... seems like the UnLocker page has a nice write up, but I seen mixed reviews on Sprint tabs. I always have a certain degree of comfort when I'm able to backup/recover.
You given that any thought yet? Or you keeping it stock?
Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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I hear that! My intentions for buying this was simply to modify it to run HC once Spacemoose gets a stable build up.
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Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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Have you seen this video/write-up from TheUnlocker?
I'm thinking I may give this a shot to get CWM recovery... debating if I want to chance screwing up my device on day 1 though :]
I can still return my NT. It's clear that BN doesn't want one to root or sideload apps. Lots of the sideloaded apps don't behave properly and some menus are invisible. It's difficult to install non stock keyboards. Now with the latest OTA update we have to find a way to re-root and sideloading apps doesn't work anymore.
My question to the group is: If I get a Color, root it and load CM7, will that guarantee that on OTA update won't mess up anything? Do you have the same problem with apps not behaving right under CM7.
Thanks for your input.
If you load CM7 to the emmc, you will never receive an OTA update as you will no longer be running the B&N modified OS. You can always run CM7 from SD card and leave the stock B&N OS on the emmc. That way you can switch between running CM7 and the reader software (which, for reading I believe is superior). Just depends on what you want to do with it.
As far as application issues. You may run into an app or two there that doesn't behave well, but overall my experience is that most of everything that I've loaded on it runs without a problem.
Is it possible for an update to prevent the loading of CM7 from the SD card?
If I understand what you are saying, yes.
There are two popular methods to running CM7 on the NC.
1) Wiping the B&N OS and loading CM7 directly to the internal memory (emmc) and using the SD card as storage only.
2) Leaving the B&N OS on internal memory and having CM7 run directly off SD card (since the NC reads SD before internal memory). B&N updates will not interfere with CM7 on the SD card.
Either way is up to you. I can't say which way is more popular as there are a ton of users that do it each way.
If you want to review the methods, search for eyeballer's guide (load to emmc) or verygreen's guide (booting off SD) and choose which one is best for you.
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Is it possible for an update to prevent the loading of CM7 from the SD card?
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I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
CM7 from SD card... BN update concerns
Thank goodness for this thread. I've been trying to figure a few things out since I read the news about the BN update yesterday.
My situation is this: I am getting a Nook Color (NC) for Christmas in a few days. I've already formatted a microSD card to run CM7 on it, but obviously I can't mess with it until I open it. It won't have the update when I take it out of the box, so I know i have time to do something if I need to. But what exactly is locked down on the NC with this update?
That is, if I'm dual-booting from the SD card, I'll still be able to install whatever apps I want on the Android side, yes? I just won't be able to load (or "sideload") those apps into the NookOS? I understand that this is a much worse deal for Nook Tablet owners, but it seems I just lucked out, yeah?
Thanks for reading! As you can see, I'm brand new to all this!
511pf said:
I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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I suppose they would bother for the same reason they're trying to keep us (the NT people) from rooting and sideloading.
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That is, if I'm dual-booting from the SD card, I'll still be able to install whatever apps I want on the Android side, yes? I just won't be able to load (or "sideload") those apps into the NookOS? I understand that this is a much worse deal for Nook Tablet owners, but it seems I just lucked out, yeah?
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Yes. The B&N OS won't be rooted so you can't load anything outside their market, but you can install everything to the CM7 SD card. In fact I don't even think you'd have to register the nook or boot it into the B&N OS. You should be able to boot right from SD.
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I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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No, I'm pretty sure the Color is safe from any changes to the boot order. The very first steps of the boot process are in hardware and so are the configuration settings for which device it checks first for x-loader and the rest of the boot process. I think the only way to change that order is shorting out or adding resistors to certain pins on the system board
A short answer to make it clear.
No, if you run CM7 from SD or any other way, then B&N cant do anything against it as the boot order is set into stone by the hardware.
Thats the main reason why the NC can still compete so well against its bigger brother.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
It's quite clear from the responses that the NC is preferable as an Android tablet over the NT. I'm inclined to switch, however is the NC hardware adequate? Is the screen and speed acceptable compared to the NT. Will I have a "real" tablet but be disappointed in the performance?
Do Netflix movies appear acceptable?
Lower your expectation, then.
What you intend to use "this tablet" for? Heavily watching video? streaming movies? playing games?... If that's the case, I think you need a better hw spec.
Although not dual core by the time a Nook Color is overclocked and running an optimized CM7 it gives a pretty good experience in my opinion.
Pretty smooth navigation and no problem with standard definition movies or regular games.
Anyone actually upgraded to 1.4.1 and tested SD boot
If we can net this out even further.... Has anyone actually upgraded their Nook Color to the new version (1.4.1?) and verified that they can still boot from their SD card?
I agree with the opinions that it is in hardware and BN's upgrade should not have any effect, but I'd like to know if someone has actually done it and can confirm the SD card boot still works OK after the upgrade.
Thanks!!!!
If you need power for the same / less money of a NC get a Novo 7 Advanced.
It runs everything from 2.3 to 4.0 and has a 1.0 ghz dual core, dual cams, mic, etc.
However its 800x480 resolution only, if you dont mind you might just get that one.
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S&W36 said:
If we can net this out even further.... Has anyone actually upgraded their Nook Color to the new version (1.4.1?) and verified that they can still boot from their SD card?
I agree with the opinions that it is in hardware and BN's upgrade should not have any effect, but I'd like to know if someone has actually done it and can confirm the SD card boot still works OK after the upgrade.
Thanks!!!!
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Yes, I have 1.4.1 stock on internal emmc, and run CM7.1 stable off my uSD card.
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Yes, I have 1.4.1 stock on internal emmc, and run CM7.1 stable off my uSD card.
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Can you side-load any app that not offered by B&N on your NC running v1.4.1?
I have my NC running 1.4.1 rooted, and am able to sideload apps at will (within the memory limitations of 1.4.1). I did run the fix to (hopefully) prevent further B&N OTA updates, so I expect it to stay this way for a while. I also dual-boot to CM on SD card.
So I have read through the thread on creating a CM10 SD card. I have also read a couple of threads on root etc.
I am interested in doing some research and demo of an HD+ and want to be able to go into a B&N or a BB and boot to a micro card I bring with me to test a few apps.
Is it possible to do something like that, or do I have to "build" the card on a device? If someone has a working image of a card I could download that would be perfect.
My overall intention is to then use my wifi hotspot, install dolphin and dice and do some web surfing tests as well as stream video tests.
Want to see how the unit stacks up to my Acer a500. I have played with a demo unit in BB and was able to surf via the built in browser and youtube but I want apples to apples comparison since that is what I am familiar with.
I use my acer 2-4 hours a day for video, surfing, etc and its getting a little old and slow these days.
Aaron Camp said:
So I have read through the thread on creating a CM10 SD card. I have also read a couple of threads on root etc.
I am interested in doing some research and demo of an HD+ and want to be able to go into a B&N or a BB and boot to a micro card I bring with me to test a few apps.
Is it possible to do something like that, or do I have to "build" the card on a device? If someone has a working image of a card I could download that would be perfect.
My overall intention is to then use my wifi hotspot, install dolphin and dice and do some web surfing tests as well as stream video tests.
Want to see how the unit stacks up to my Acer a500. I have played with a demo unit in BB and was able to surf via the built in browser and youtube but I want apples to apples comparison since that is what I am familiar with.
I use my acer 2-4 hours a day for video, surfing, etc and its getting a little old and slow these days.
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You do have to boot the SD in a device one time to get the card to partition itself. Then adding the CM10 and gapps can be done at home with a Mac or Linux. Then you can take it back to the store to boot again to finish installing. Then you can run it there.
Sent from my NookColor running CM10 on SD using Tapatalk.
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You do have to boot the SD in a device one time to get the card to partition itself. Then adding the CM10 and gapps can be done at home with a Mac or Linux. Then you can take it back to the store to boot again to finish installing. Then you can run it there.
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Based on that, then if someone could provide an image of a working micro card, I could use that, correct?
Anyone want to PM me with a download? I just need this to run some quick like for like comparisons before I pull the trigger!!!
If its easier, I am even willing to send a 4 or 8gig micro and a return label to someone and have them make a copy and send it back to me.
Thanks
Coming from a long line of LG's, I do have to say I loved that LG's UI automatically recognized the USB and didnt need any apps to run it, and all other apps recognized it as well. So why doesnt the Nexus 6 do this? I am using stick mount but there are apps that dont recognize this, like with my G2 since it didnt have an SD card, so to save space i would setup titanium backup to store directly to the USB, but now it doesnt recognize it.
anyone have any ideas on how to work around this?
Custom ROMs can build automount in. I don't know of any off the top of my head, but have a read of the threads
Sorry if this seems like a flame, but stop posting the same junk all over....you posted in the two other threads, and now you went and created a third for what is probably your issue.
I have Stickmount working as expected on Stock, MeanPop and BlissPop. Its seen in Root Explorer and I can get it seen by TiBu (even though TiBu says its not writeable, it actually is).
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Sorry if this seems like a flame, but stop posting the same junk all over....you posted in the two other threads, and now you went and created a third for what is probably your issue.
I have Stickmount working as expected on Stock, MeanPop and BlissPop. Its seen in Root Explorer and I can get it seen by TiBu (even though TiBu says its not writeable, it actually is).
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stickmount may mount it but it doesnt automatically allow third party apps to see it. I have several apps that I use to use withmy OTG and they can no longer recognize it. and my first question was about doing it period, so dont be an ass. its a simple questions as to why the Nexus doesnt automatically do it. and so far I havent had any of the custom roms I have tried automatically mount it.
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its a simple questions as to why the Nexus doesnt automatically do it
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That is not a simple question. At least not to us, since none of us were present at any google meetings where this was either decided against or not discussed.
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and so far I havent had any of the custom roms I have tried automatically mount it.
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I can't tell you any that have it. I assume Slim will have it in the future when their 5.1 ROM progresses as they had it previously on KK devices. Actually it's really only the kernel that needs to mount it in the fstab, but it is always nice to have ROM support too, where it is shown in the storage menu.
What apps do you have that cannot recognise OTG? All stick mount does is put it in a folder on your sdcard. I expect all apps can browse to folders on sdcard?
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That is not a simple question. At least not to us, since none of us were present at any google meetings where this was either decided against or not discussed.
I can't tell you any that have it. I assume Slim will have it in the future when their 5.1 ROM progresses as they had it previously on KK devices. Actually it's really only the kernel that needs to mount it in the fstab, but it is always nice to have ROM support too, where it is shown in the storage menu.
What apps do you have that cannot recognise OTG? All stick mount does is put it in a folder on your sdcard. I expect all apps can browse to folders on sdcard?
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thanks for your input. the original post should have asked about the transfer speeds as well, but thats not my biggest concern. quickpic use to automatically load everything up on as soon as the usb was mounted, but I havent tried it lately with any of the AOSP roms. I always liked the LG UI and never liked AOSP but since I see that stock google looks similar to AOSP that I have taken an interest to learn about them and play with their features and Euphoria 1.1 has it under storage settings but it doesnt do anything when I insert my usb. so it may still be being worked on or I could try a kernel that has it supported to see if that would do it.
but on older phones that never had SD cards I would use by USB for my Titanium Backup storage, but even with stickmount the app still wont notice it. I am going to try a few things that someone told me earlier and see if that works. my backups can become quite large and that valuable space when you only have 32gb.
so if yall have any ideas to try, let me know and I will be happy to give them a shot
Ah figured it out.. I realized I was still running my USB in exfat and once I reformatted it back to fat32 titanium now see's it.. Will have to play more to see if all is working right now
harvickgm said:
Ah figured it out.. I realized I was still running my USB in exfat and once I reformatted it back to fat32 titanium now see's it.. Will have to play more to see if all is working right now
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Ah cool. Yeah ExFat isn't going to help unless you're on a Samsung - if they still indeed support that.
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Ah cool. Yeah ExFat isn't going to help unless you're on a Samsung - if they still indeed support that.
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My LG's supported it, but I hate the limitation on Fat32 when you need to transfer files larger than 4gb
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My LG's supported it, but I hate the limitation on Fat32 when you need to transfer files larger than 4gb
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Yep it's a pain. ExFAT is microsoft proprietary. I'm surprised some vendors even use it. Some custom Kernels may allow use of NTFS or something. FAT32 is my only option because I have to plug into Windows and Linux systems.
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Yep it's a pain. ExFAT is microsoft proprietary. I'm surprised some vendors even use it. Some custom Kernels may allow use of NTFS or something. FAT32 is my only option because I have to plug into Windows and Linux systems.
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I'm honestly surprised some new format hasn't been adapted, file sizes are getting to be so big now something will have to change soon.. I hope at least
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I'm honestly surprised some new format hasn't been adapted, file sizes are getting to be so big now something will have to change soon.. I hope at least
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I always think the same thing.
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I always think the same thing.
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OK, so now I have a new problem, maybe you have a work around. Since stickmount shows up under the SD card, the system counts its storage space with the space on the phone. So even tho its a 64gb USB, it won't transfer thinking there is is not enough space on the disk. Any ideas?
harvickgm said:
OK, so now I have a new problem, maybe you have a work around. Since stickmount shows up under the SD card, the system counts its storage space with the space on the phone. So even tho its a 64gb USB, it won't transfer thinking there is is not enough space on the disk. Any ideas?
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I think you're stuck on that one. The best way would be to mount it independently using the fstab of a custom kernel.
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I think you're stuck on that one. The best way would be to mount it independently using the fstab of a custom kernel.
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Yes, I have been meaning to try out a kernel with support but just keep forgetting. Will definitely have to do it today. Thanks man