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[Q] skip setup entirely?

So I just recived my new nook color. Problem being, I'm downrange in Afghanistan, all I have is military network / no wifi. Any suggestions to skip the setup entirely so I can use my nook?
Otherwise I think it's going to sit around until I get back to the states in August.
I do have a personal laptop, I could download files burn to cd, move to my personal laptop and root the nook.. but only if it could root a stock nook. model no bnrv200
Any suggestions for my rather unique prediciment?

You should be able to skip the B&N setup entirely by following the steps for Auto-Nooter. You will have to update to 1.0.1 of the B&N firmware by downloading it from their site and loading it on to the internal memory. Once that has applied(just be patient, stare at it for 10 minutes until it does its thing), you can use a micro SD card loaded up with AutoNooter 2.2.18+ to gain root access, unlock the setup screen, etc. You will have to skip steps 10 and up - just leave the thing not signed in. I don't know if the B&N apps will throw a fit about not being signed in, but my hunch says you should get a working system out of it.
Stay safe!

EugeneKay said:
You should be able to skip the B&N setup entirely by following the steps for Auto-Nooter. You will have to update to 1.0.1 of the B&N firmware by downloading it from their site and loading it on to the internal memory. Once that has applied(just be patient, stare at it for 10 minutes until it does its thing), you can use a micro SD card loaded up with AutoNooter 2.2.18+ to gain root access, unlock the setup screen, etc. You will have to skip steps 10 and up - just leave the thing not signed in. I don't know if the B&N apps will throw a fit about not being signed in, but my hunch says you should get a working system out of it.
Stay safe!
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Yeah, that's sorta what I was thinking / hoping would work. I'll post some details of how I am able to get it up. (if I am able to get it up)
thanks

worked for me with auto-nooter, i never set up the b&n crap!

mrintegrity said:
worked for me with auto-nooter, i never set up the b&n crap!
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sweet, good to hear.. now if only it didn't take me a day to download.. and have it fail once already... someday, maybe by xmass i'll get it downloaded and be able to use it...

What does rooting nc get you?

I have been reading all these threads and can't figgure out what rooting a nc makes it? Do you get the function of a full android tablet? Android market, mp3s, a web browser?

Yes on pretty much all counts, however you can also boot from a microsd card to get a full os without rooting.

kraash said:
I have been reading all these threads and can't figgure out what rooting a nc makes it? Do you get the function of a full android tablet? Android market, mp3s, a web browser?
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Full Android tablet- Yes
Market - Yes
MP3s - Could already do this without rooting, but you can now choose other programs if you dont like the stock version.
Web Browser - Again, stock has one, but you can get MUCH MUCH better ones after rooting.
But really, it unlocks the full potential of this tablet. BAsically, anything that any other android phone can do, this can do; with teh exception of GPS, Camera, and (currently) bluetooth. The system seems to have its bluetooth hardware, an devs are working on a fix for the software.. so we may soon get support for bluetooth headsets, etc.

Divine_Madcat said:
Full Android tablet- Yes
Market - Yes
MP3s - Could already do this without rooting, but you can now choose other programs if you dont like the stock version.
Web Browser - Again, stock has one, but you can get MUCH MUCH better ones after rooting.
But really, it unlocks the full potential of this tablet. BAsically, anything that any other android phone can do, this can do; with teh exception of GPS, Camera, and (currently) bluetooth. The system seems to have its bluetooth hardware, an devs are working on a fix for the software.. so we may soon get support for bluetooth headsets, etc.
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It would be cool to attach a bluetooth key board and mouse when needed to be able to ssh into a server.

dcontrol said:
Yes on pretty much all counts, however you can also boot from a microsd card to get a full os without rooting.
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Can you point to a thread about his. I thought you had to root to boot off of the SD card.

rlkelley said:
Can you point to a thread about his. I thought you had to root to boot off of the SD card.
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Any one of the Froyo SD card threads will do. Because the nook, rooted or not, will automatically boot off SD before the built in memory, it is possible to boot a whole OS outside of the stock, without needing to be rooted..not much more to it than that.

Divine_Madcat said:
Any one of the Froyo SD card threads will do. Because the nook, rooted or not, will automatically boot off SD before the built in memory, it is possible to boot a whole OS outside of the stock, without needing to be rooted..not much more to it than that.
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Which is better, full root, or os on sd?
Is the processor on this thing good enough for either to be worth it?

kraash said:
Which is better, full root, or os on sd?
Is the processor on this thing good enough for either to be worth it?
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Honestly, i see little reason not to root, and have an SD image, but it is up to the users. For my daily use on the nook, i am rooted, and have plenty of customizing done. The hardware is great, but I did not like B&N's home screen..
And the processor is awesome, especially overclocked to 1.1Ghz (same core architecture as the iPad, but .1Ghz faster). The graphics card is mid ranged, but by no means bad, and can handle most any android game out right now.

Divine_Madcat said:
Honestly, i see little reason not to root, and have an SD image, but it is up to the users. For my daily use on the nook, i am rooted, and have plenty of customizing done. The hardware is great, but I did not like B&N's home screen..
And the processor is awesome, especially overclocked to 1.1Ghz (same core architecture as the iPad, but .1Ghz faster). The graphics card is mid ranged, but by no means bad, and can handle most any android game out right now.
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madcat, which root option do you like for it?

kraash said:
madcat, which root option do you like for it?
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I used the Auto nooter for 1.01.. though really, any option yields the same results in the end.

[Q] Switching from Nook Tablet to Color?

I can still return my NT. It's clear that BN doesn't want one to root or sideload apps. Lots of the sideloaded apps don't behave properly and some menus are invisible. It's difficult to install non stock keyboards. Now with the latest OTA update we have to find a way to re-root and sideloading apps doesn't work anymore.
My question to the group is: If I get a Color, root it and load CM7, will that guarantee that on OTA update won't mess up anything? Do you have the same problem with apps not behaving right under CM7.
Thanks for your input.

If you load CM7 to the emmc, you will never receive an OTA update as you will no longer be running the B&N modified OS. You can always run CM7 from SD card and leave the stock B&N OS on the emmc. That way you can switch between running CM7 and the reader software (which, for reading I believe is superior). Just depends on what you want to do with it.
As far as application issues. You may run into an app or two there that doesn't behave well, but overall my experience is that most of everything that I've loaded on it runs without a problem.

Is it possible for an update to prevent the loading of CM7 from the SD card?

If I understand what you are saying, yes.
There are two popular methods to running CM7 on the NC.
1) Wiping the B&N OS and loading CM7 directly to the internal memory (emmc) and using the SD card as storage only.
2) Leaving the B&N OS on internal memory and having CM7 run directly off SD card (since the NC reads SD before internal memory). B&N updates will not interfere with CM7 on the SD card.
Either way is up to you. I can't say which way is more popular as there are a ton of users that do it each way.
If you want to review the methods, search for eyeballer's guide (load to emmc) or verygreen's guide (booting off SD) and choose which one is best for you.

itsmee22 said:
Is it possible for an update to prevent the loading of CM7 from the SD card?
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I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

CM7 from SD card... BN update concerns
Thank goodness for this thread. I've been trying to figure a few things out since I read the news about the BN update yesterday.
My situation is this: I am getting a Nook Color (NC) for Christmas in a few days. I've already formatted a microSD card to run CM7 on it, but obviously I can't mess with it until I open it. It won't have the update when I take it out of the box, so I know i have time to do something if I need to. But what exactly is locked down on the NC with this update?
That is, if I'm dual-booting from the SD card, I'll still be able to install whatever apps I want on the Android side, yes? I just won't be able to load (or "sideload") those apps into the NookOS? I understand that this is a much worse deal for Nook Tablet owners, but it seems I just lucked out, yeah?
Thanks for reading! As you can see, I'm brand new to all this!

511pf said:
I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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I suppose they would bother for the same reason they're trying to keep us (the NT people) from rooting and sideloading.

PoliteResponse said:
That is, if I'm dual-booting from the SD card, I'll still be able to install whatever apps I want on the Android side, yes? I just won't be able to load (or "sideload") those apps into the NookOS? I understand that this is a much worse deal for Nook Tablet owners, but it seems I just lucked out, yeah?
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Yes. The B&N OS won't be rooted so you can't load anything outside their market, but you can install everything to the CM7 SD card. In fact I don't even think you'd have to register the nook or boot it into the B&N OS. You should be able to boot right from SD.

511pf said:
I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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No, I'm pretty sure the Color is safe from any changes to the boot order. The very first steps of the boot process are in hardware and so are the configuration settings for which device it checks first for x-loader and the rest of the boot process. I think the only way to change that order is shorting out or adding resistors to certain pins on the system board

A short answer to make it clear.
No, if you run CM7 from SD or any other way, then B&N cant do anything against it as the boot order is set into stone by the hardware.
Thats the main reason why the NC can still compete so well against its bigger brother.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

It's quite clear from the responses that the NC is preferable as an Android tablet over the NT. I'm inclined to switch, however is the NC hardware adequate? Is the screen and speed acceptable compared to the NT. Will I have a "real" tablet but be disappointed in the performance?
Do Netflix movies appear acceptable?

Lower your expectation, then.
What you intend to use "this tablet" for? Heavily watching video? streaming movies? playing games?... If that's the case, I think you need a better hw spec.

Although not dual core by the time a Nook Color is overclocked and running an optimized CM7 it gives a pretty good experience in my opinion.
Pretty smooth navigation and no problem with standard definition movies or regular games.

Anyone actually upgraded to 1.4.1 and tested SD boot
If we can net this out even further.... Has anyone actually upgraded their Nook Color to the new version (1.4.1?) and verified that they can still boot from their SD card?
I agree with the opinions that it is in hardware and BN's upgrade should not have any effect, but I'd like to know if someone has actually done it and can confirm the SD card boot still works OK after the upgrade.
Thanks!!!!

If you need power for the same / less money of a NC get a Novo 7 Advanced.
It runs everything from 2.3 to 4.0 and has a 1.0 ghz dual core, dual cams, mic, etc.
However its 800x480 resolution only, if you dont mind you might just get that one.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

S&W36 said:
If we can net this out even further.... Has anyone actually upgraded their Nook Color to the new version (1.4.1?) and verified that they can still boot from their SD card?
I agree with the opinions that it is in hardware and BN's upgrade should not have any effect, but I'd like to know if someone has actually done it and can confirm the SD card boot still works OK after the upgrade.
Thanks!!!!
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Yes, I have 1.4.1 stock on internal emmc, and run CM7.1 stable off my uSD card.

LBN1 said:
Yes, I have 1.4.1 stock on internal emmc, and run CM7.1 stable off my uSD card.
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Can you side-load any app that not offered by B&N on your NC running v1.4.1?

I have my NC running 1.4.1 rooted, and am able to sideload apps at will (within the memory limitations of 1.4.1). I did run the fix to (hopefully) prevent further B&N OTA updates, so I expect it to stay this way for a while. I also dual-boot to CM on SD card.

Having some problems with N2A on HD+, will CM solve these?

Hello. Currently I'm running N2A on 16gb nook hd+. I have several problems, which I'd like to be fixed, but don't know, if CM or whatever other upgrades will fix them. Here they are:
1. SD card or internal memory not accessible when connected to PC via USB.
2. Wifi sensitivity/AP scan speed issue. Say Nook is lying on my table, and I'm in mode for AP searching, there are 14 APs around, detectable with my laptop, phone, etc. Nook sees either 3 or 11 in cycle, i.e. for 2-3 seconds there are 3 AP shown, on next 2-3 second - 11 AP are shown.
3. "Unfortunately, another clock widget has stopped" error message repeated many times, when all APs are lost around (say sitting in subway train and going from surface to underground).
4. Browser often lags when visiting amazon, ebay and many other sites "Browser does not responding, do you want to wait or close" (Yes I know these websites have mobile versions, I want to use desktop versions on my tablet). Sometimes, browser crashes without any notification, clearing all form data, etc.
5. Frequent restarts in sleep mode. I lock tablet with side button, and shortly discover that it have rebooted into native nook hd+ shell.
6. I want to have SD card slot free, so I can plug in card from my camera and view/manage photos there.
Thanks in advance.

Hmm
I don't want to bash you but you actually spent $30+ on an sd card loaded with an open source rom on it? And now you have issues that aren't addressed by the creators of N2A? Maybe I just find it funny that a company can profit from a half-brained idea and claim that it works.
Have you tried the help section on N2A's actual site? Why not look at the forums in there as well?

[Q] Advice/pointer to noob for multiple-device best practice

After operating for years on my old Motorola Droid phone, I noticed the price on the Nook HD+, and research here showed me how easy it was to get to a clean CM Android environment, so I took the plunge.
Went through the procedure today ... Smooth as glass, 1st-time boot of my microSD, stock backup, all the installs (thanks verygreen, e.mote, and leapinlar)! Searching several forums said multiple Android devices with a common Google account was no problem, so I entered my credentials during first CM startup.
I've been running dumb and happy on the phone for so long that I didn't even think about app installs, but the store churned away and installed many of (but not all) of the apps that I have downloaded for my phone over the years.
Problem is, there are numerous apps on my phone which won't be useful (or at least useful for me) on my tablet (GPS signal strength, MyTracks, car operating expense logger, etc). I want to delete these off of my HD+, but if I do so is the next sync of my phone going to nuke them off the phone as well? Should I fall back and punt ... Use a separate Google account for the tablet?
Suggestions and/or pointers to what I should have read before I jumped into the pool much appreciated!
Thanks,
Alan

AlanRoberts said:
After operating for years on my old Motorola Droid phone, I noticed the price on the Nook HD+, and research here showed me how easy it was to get to a clean CM Android environment, so I took the plunge.
Went through the procedure today ... Smooth as glass, 1st-time boot of my microSD, stock backup, all the installs (thanks verygreen, e.mote, and leapinlar)! Searching several forums said multiple Android devices with a common Google account was no problem, so I entered my credentials during first CM startup.
I've been running dumb and happy on the phone for so long that I didn't even think about app installs, but the store churned away and installed many of (but not all) of the apps that I have downloaded for my phone over the years.
Problem is, there are numerous apps on my phone which won't be useful (or at least useful for me) on my tablet (GPS signal strength, MyTracks, car operating expense logger, etc). I want to delete these off of my HD+, but if I do so is the next sync of my phone going to nuke them off the phone as well? Should I fall back and punt ... Use a separate Google account for the tablet?
Suggestions and/or pointers to what I should have read before I jumped into the pool much appreciated!
Thanks,
Alan
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No, just configure Google to not backup your device. Then it will not restore your apps on different devices.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
No, just configure Google to not backup your device. Then it will not restore your apps on different devices.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Thanks leapinlar. There are some items that I don't mind keeping in sync between the ancient phone and the new machine (access point definitions, contacts), but there must be some way to tell it not to backup the tablet's app configuration (I'll back it up to microSD).
Time to start climbing the learning curve!
Cheers,
Alan