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Just installed atk pro...questions

Ok so i have no idea what's safe to kill and what's not.. Security level is set to low... A bunch of things I never seen or even run are in there..
Reason I ask is I seen some people say they'll have 200 free memory after running atk...me all I have is about 135/145...
Maps also just reappears on its own along with stock messaging...I use handcent.....
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Well after almost a complete day with it installed hasn't helped battery at all...may have even made it worst...
Now more appso auto starts...like maps even though I have yet to open it....
Also when I kill I get only 75/85 free mem.....
Some one has to know something...
Seems that atk may not help me...
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You don't need a task killer on these phones. The more you try to mess with how it works, the less battery life you will get. I get 2 days on a single charge, with daily usage.

I agree with miztaken1312. The system manages running apps pretty good on its own. I do have ATK installed but I only use it for a game or app that freezes and I can't "force stop" it from the built in running application list. To keep ATK from running in the background and wasting battery I keep it on the kill list so when I kill apps it kills itself until I open it again.

Loads of apps start on boot

I use advanced task killer (not the advanced part just using it manually) and have been noticing loads of random apps on startup. Is this normal, is it killing my battery or making my startup slower? Mostly concerned about the battery.
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andrewdroid said:
I use advanced task killer (not the advanced part just using it manually) and have been noticing loads of random apps on startup. Is this normal, is it killing my battery or making my startup slower? Mostly concerned about the battery.
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No one can give you a real answer on this. I used to us a task manager. I stopped. I do not notice a difference. Then again I flash a new rom every 4-5 days
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The biggest misconception is that the tasks you see are "running" in the back ground. Nothing can be further from the truth. There's a reason that the apps start back up immediately after they are killed. Remember, this isn't windows. Android OS, especially 2.2, is designed for multitasking. The apps begin to load because it makes it easier for the OS to perform certain tasks. They appear to be running, but in fact are merely being used as a place holder so to speak. When the system recognizes it isn't needed, it stops the app from running and replaces it with said place holder. And even that is ended after a while. In essence, Android itself is a task killer. If you think about it, it's actually counter productive because the system expands more energy, or battery, when you close tasks that aren't ready to be closed, and uses more battery restarting those apps. Trust me, the OS knows what's best for the phone more than we do. I stopped using task killers and noticed a slight difference in my battery life, for the better, when I let Android to its thing.
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Ok but why are they starting up during my boot?
I only use the task killer for poorly behaved apps if they malfunction or need to be reloaded for some reason, i don't turn on the auto part.
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What apps are you concerned about specifically.
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andrewdroid said:
Ok but why are they starting up during my boot?
I only use the task killer for poorly behaved apps if they malfunction or need to be reloaded for some reason, i don't turn on the auto part.
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Android actually tries to start everything... at least it seems so to me. That way it doesn't waste time nor energy (battery) starting apps when it (or you) need them. Get something like osmonitor or system monitor or watchdog. Then you can see what the apps are actually using. Most of them sit there idle using 0 cpu time. Mostly you should let 'em be. It's a feature, not a bug!

I tried watchdog, it's pretty good. Now i can see the usage percentage, much better.
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Also y can't laptops have an option to multitask like this? Seems like loads of battery would be saved.
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andrewdroid said:
I use advanced task killer (not the advanced part just using it manually) and have been noticing loads of random apps on startup. Is this normal, is it killing my battery or making my startup slower? Mostly concerned about the battery.
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When you kill a process and it has to start up again fresh that kills your battery more. To a certain extent, those task killer apps are scams
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The apps that were booting were random ones like Yelp, and Adobe Reader etc that I don't think ought to have any bearing on startup. Using Watchdog, they don't seem to be affecting any CPU when they startup but aren't they slowing my boot for no reason? Or no.

Scrolling Lag

I've seen this problem come up in other recent HTC devices, just thought I'd point it out for the Vivid as well.
I'm running LauncherPro with just a few icons, a low-resolution wallpaper, and no widgets. It runs silky smooth but the only gripe I have is that when opening the app drawer, 3D or standard, there's an incredible amount of stuttering and lagginess. Scrolling is not smooth, either.
The only other instance of crappy scrolling I have found on the phone so far is in GO SMS Pro; scrolling up and down conversations and also in the settings menus shows an apparent amount of lag. Nothing to cry about, but still there.
Otherwise, no performance issues at all on my device. Oh, and my previous complaint about the data speed being almost nonexistent - it's fixed. Turned out the phone was trying to sync all three of my Google accounts at one time.

Try a different Launcher? LauncherPro Might have an inherent flaw with HTC Devices possibly. Give GoLauncher a shot and see if there is any difference.

Yeah, I'll do that now. I personally dislike Go Launcher but I'll try a few others and see how they perform. I don't think a launcher would affect the lag in GO SMS, though.
EDIT: Lag is still present in Go, Zeam, and ADW launchers.

Interesting. Good to know. It is possible I suppose that they are not correctly optimized for the resolution and Screen size. Although if it is having problems with other HTC Devices my only conclusion is that it is because of some sort of Software issue between HTC and Custom Launchers.

Yeah that's all I could think of, how maybe the high resolution has something to do with it. Hopefully, that's right. Then it would just depend upon app makers to update their apps.

I see no lag what so ever on anything on this phone...
maybe ya got a bad unit?

Are you using GO SMS or any other launchers besides Sense?

This whole rom is slow in comparison to how my inspire rom runs....sad....but thats at&t for [email protected] software. But as soon as we have root,Ill be cooking my own for this,until then it can sit in the box...lol
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I have the lag you speak of and its driving me up the wall. Why did I give up my galaxy s2
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Calm down, it's not such a big deal. It could because of the greater resolution, much higher than the Samsungs. Not a hundred percent sure, but really. People need to stop being so nit picky and judgmental. It's a phone. In this world, they ALL have their quirks.

No lag what so ever here. Running Launcher Pro Paid Edition. I have 3 homescreens with 4 Columns and 5 Rows, and have 4 Widgets. 3D App Drawer with 5 columns.
Tried ADW EX and Go Launcher and found no lag present as well.
Once a debloated Rom is released everything will be resolved. But for me, haven't had any lag what so ever.

Hm. I wonder if the paid version would make any difference on my device. No lag in the drawer at all? What about in downloaded apps when scrolling?

No problem with anything on launcher. Smooth to me. I've came from an Atrix, Infuse, Inspire, SGS2 and notice no difference. So I've had my share to compare to.
I like the paid version because of the resizable Widgets.

I wonder then, what could be causing it on my phone..

I just tried the latest ics launcher, wow, the first few were kinda sluggish but the latest update is a breeze. There is no lag what so ever and the apps even open instantly with this launcher. I think ics luancher installs itself in a different way, i dont know why but it is smooth as butter.

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I wonder then, what could be causing it on my phone..
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I've got the same thing, paid version.
I just changed the delay to instant, and forgot about it.

nkd said:
I just tried the latest ics launcher, wow, the first few were kinda sluggish but the latest update is a breeze. There is no lag what so ever and the apps even open instantly with this launcher. I think ics luancher installs itself in a different way, i dont know why but it is smooth as butter.
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I just downloaded the new ICS Launcher as well. Seems they've updated it really recently because I tried it on Monday and it wasn't nearly this smooth. Drawer fly-in is amazing, but now the scrolling through the apps is laggy. The changelog did say it was completely rebuilt.
Maybe it's a memory thing? LauncherPro was the very first thing I ever installed on the phone out of the box, and I think I recall that before I installed any other apps, it was running flawlessly.. low memory maybe, but I only have like 10 other apps installed. I'm back to LP for now since I don't really mind the drawer lag that much. I just switched to the 3D version and fly-in is working fine, but now it's the scrolling that lags more than the regular drawer does lol. Can't win.

I know it sounds silly but it could be something as simple as an app icon causing the lag. I had installed something from the market and I noticed lag (this was on my Inspire) and after I uninstalled the app it went back to normal. I reinstalled the app and froze it with TiBu and the lag was still gone... unfroze and lag was back.
YMMV

dbaser said:
I know it sounds silly but it could be something as simple as an app icon causing the lag. I had installed something from the market and I noticed lag (this was on my Inspire) and after I uninstalled the app it went back to normal. I reinstalled the app and froze it with TiBu and the lag was still gone... unfroze and lag was back.
YMMV
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Yeah I believe you, good point. I'm just going to go through deleting some apps and see if any of them are the problem.
UPDATE: Alright, I just did a factory reset on the phone. As soon as it booted up, I added my primary Gmail account. I went to the Market then closed it so it would update. Meanwhile, I synced my Google contacts, Gmail, and calendar. When that was done, I went back to the Market and downloaded GO SMS - the scrolling lag there still persists. Then, I downloaded LauncherPro (unpaid) and went through opening and exiting the app drawer multiple times - seems the lag is gone. Every now and then, opening it will show some stuttering, as will closing. But it's not every single time like it was before the reset. Perhaps it was something to do with memory? It does not lag on scrolling at all, only during fly-in and fly-out.
UPDATE 2: Never mind. Now that I have changed the default number of homescreens from 3 to 5, it lags every time on opening and closing. Just not on scrolling, yet.

Running so slow it seems

Hey guys,
I had the Droid 3 for about half a year now and got it rooted few months ago. I deleted all the bloatware in hopes of getting the phone to run faster however it seems just as slow or maybe even slower than my old Droid 1. When I unlock my phone (widgetlocker) it takes a while to show what is on the screen, if i hit message icon it load message for a long time, when i click on just phone and recent it take a long time. It should be so slow IMO.
Anything I can do to check what is going on?
Any of you experience this?
Any suggestions?
Thanks!

If you say it's slower than your OG Droid, then something must have gone completely wrong... sorry. But put a Droid and Droid 2 beside and say that again...
It might be because of 3rd party Apps... Who needs widget locker? I'm using GoLauncher EX 2.51 because it's the fastest experience (all newer versions are slower). I have removed all bloatware and beyond. The only widgets I use is the GenieWidget, Facebook Widget and the GoLauncher Toggle Widget.

The one thing that seems to slow down my droid are the widgets. If you have just 3 widgets, it should be fast.

Did you ever get the first system update to 5.6.890? That made it faster IMO. I got the Droid 3 the day it came out and had to use launcherpro because the redraw times on the stock launcher were ridiculous. After the update couple of months ago the stock launcher is faster than ever.

Add ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 and debug.sf.hw=1 to build.prop to solve the lag when unlocking phone etc.
Then if you're not satisfied you could try V7 speedy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17222220

The stock launcher is a slow piece of ****, you will have a lot of redraw with it. Widget locker will also slow down the unlocking of the phone.
Toss Liberty Rom on it and you'll see a huge difference in speed. I'm currently running Hashcode's CM9 selfkang alpha because I'm daring like that.
It's ridiculously fast, never seen anything like it.

Horrible Multitasking?

I posted this in the Sprint HTC One forums and got little in reply, let me know whose you guys think
I don't know if this is an issue with 4.3 specifically because I don't recall if this was happening since I installed the update..but my multitasking with this phone has been horrible lately. I mean no matter what app I switch to it begins to reload, even if it's the last one I used or a light application (ex Google Now to Messaging). I already found it frustrating how upon switching apps with this phone it would show you a frozen image for a brief moment before before allowing you to interact with the actual application, but now apps are actually having to reload. I'm using apex pro and it's also redrawing nearly every time I go back to the homescreen, be it from internet, floorboard, messaging etc. Not sure why it's happening but it started like a week ago and my phone has been feeling pretty ****ty because of it. My GS4 w/touchwiz has less multitasking issues than this phone right now, any ideas on what's going on? Stock unrooted 4.3
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MultiLockOn said:
I posted this in the Sprint HTC One forums and got little in reply, let me know whose you guys think
I don't know if this is an issue with 4.3 specifically because I don't recall if this was happening since I installed the update..but my multitasking with this phone has been horrible lately. I mean no matter what app I switch to it begins to reload, even if it's the last one I used or a light application (ex Google Now to Messaging). I already found it frustrating how upon switching apps with this phone it would show you a frozen image for a brief moment before before allowing you to interact with the actual application, but now apps are actually having to reload. I'm using apex pro and it's also redrawing nearly every time I go back to the homescreen, be it from internet, floorboard, messaging etc. Not sure why it's happening but it started like a week ago and my phone has been feeling pretty ****ty because of it. My GS4 w/touchwiz has less multitasking issues than this phone right now, any ideas on what's going on? Stock unrooted 4.3
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Isn't there a specific setting that locks the launcher in memory to prevent the redraws? Are you running a custom rom or you're using apex on a stock rom?

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Isn't there a specific setting that locks the launcher in memory to prevent the redraws? Are you running a custom rom or you're using apex on a stock rom?
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There is that setting, but when it's enabled a notification sits in the dropdown that says to remove apex from the permanent memory, you can't swipe it away either. Really stupid, never seen a phone with that notification before, my s2 with 1gb of ram multitasked amazing. Regardless it's all aspects of multitasking not just launcher redraw, if I switch from messages to setting and then back to massages, it'll have to reload regardless of how light of an app it is.
Stock unrooted 4.3. Rebooting gives me a few days without hindrance but eventually the problem resurfaces, I barely have any apps installed and none of them are out of the ordinary.
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