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[Q] Web OS

I'm just asking this out of curiosity but let me get to the point. I'm a big fan of MIUI and CyanogenMod 7 on my Captivate and of course those operating systems were not designed to be on the Captivate. Well I was wondering because the Captivate is a popular phone if it would be possible to port Web OS to the phone.

From G1 forum:
samrozzi said:
ok saw a post on the sprint hero boards and wanted to ask over here aswell since the g1 area has a lot more developers for it.
would porting webOS to an android phone seem possible? I had a palm pre for a bit was cool and fast, I like android more but the thought of running it would be cool
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carnegie0107 said:
In a word:
No.
In more words:
We need drivers. There are no WebOS drivers for Android devices. Many of the existing drivers that we need are proprietary, meaning (and I'm not sure on this part) most likely the hardware specifications necessary to write drivers are closed as well. If they are not closed, it would be possible--but not for a team of geeks like XDA. You'd need a major entity, like Google, to do it, which won't happen. Besides, not all of WebOS is completely open-source, just like not ALL of what goes into Android phones is. It's just not possible--even if the driver issue could be overcome, which it can't.
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cappysw10 said:
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crushed my dreams =[

but i asked this question because i remember reading an article where the HP CEO said that he would be interested in licensing Web OS to big companies like Samsung. Now lets say it was made available to Samsung. Could it be ported to our Captivates then?

pwnerman said:
but i asked this question because i remember reading an article where the HP CEO said that he would be interested in licensing Web OS to big companies like Samsung. Now lets say it was made available to Samsung. Could it be ported to our Captivates then?
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More than likely it would be put on a new phone. I doubt it'll ever be open enough to be ported.

pwnerman said:
but i asked this question because i remember reading an article where the HP CEO said that he would be interested in licensing Web OS to big companies like Samsung. Now lets say it was made available to Samsung. Could it be ported to our Captivates then?
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Only if Samsung ported it over to the captivate/sgs, i wouldn't put a bet on it though. Now maybe getting ice cream sandwich has more hope than web os

speedy_11 said:
Only if Samsung ported it over to the captivate/sgs, i wouldn't put a bet on it though. Now maybe getting ice cream sandwich has more hope than web os
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Let's get Gingerbread before we start that thread!

cappysw10 said:
Let's get Gingerbread before we start that thread!
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dont we already have gingerbread lol

pwnerman said:
dont we already have gingerbread lol
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Pretty much expect (offical) att GB rom which who knows how its going to turn out

pwnerman said:
dont we already have gingerbread lol
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Sources for our phone would definitely be a plus.
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cappysw10 said:
Sources for our phone would definitely be a plus.
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it was my understanding that they were gonna release the sources soon? Is that incorrect?

[SCRIPT][Windows7-64]ROM and APK Compressor

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24061724#post24061724

Rediculous, Redundant and frankly it shouldn't be in this forum, ESPECIALLY not in this form (Just a link to your original post? Seriously? C'mon man.)
Are you just going around to random dev forums and posting that link?

btyork said:
Are you just going around to random dev forums and posting that link?
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Perhaps another script can do that?

Anybody using Windows shouldn't be developing for Android anyway...it's disgraceful.

smalmagal said:
Anybody using Windows shouldn't be developing for Android anyway...it's disgraceful.
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True enough - but there are somethings you just can't do from a Mac or Linux machine... Odin is one of those. (Maybe Odin works on Linux, I don't remember...)

btyork said:
True enough - but there are somethings you just can't do from a Mac or Linux machine... Odin is one of those. (Maybe Odin works on Linux, I don't remember...)
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yes odin works on linux but its called heimdall

btyork said:
Rediculous, Redundant and frankly it shouldn't be in this forum, ESPECIALLY not in this form (Just a link to your original post? Seriously? C'mon man.)
Are you just going around to random dev forums and posting that link?
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I don't see anything wrong with this. Do you expect a full post repetition wherever he wants to spread the words?
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smalmagal said:
Anybody using Windows shouldn't be developing for Android anyway...it's disgraceful.
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WOW!!! Why are there so many NEGATIVE and CRANKY people here in the Note forum? I have been a user of XDA for a loooooong time and I have never seen so many negative responses in any other device forum (except maybe the Galaxy Nexus forum - Their pretty cranky in there too).
Also... Who are you (or anyone for that matter) to say that if you are developing for Android on Windows that it is a disgrace? May I remind you that Windows is the 99.9 % DOMINANT Computer OS in the world?! If it was'nt for people developing on Windows I would have to say that we as a community would NOT have 90% of the ROMS, Themes, Tweaks or Apps that we have now so get real and keep your silly Linux fanboi comments to yourself.
As for the OP... All he is doing is trying to spread the word on that script which may indeed be helpful to someone who may NOT often check in the "Android" bulk forum so why dont you just cut him a break?

JamieD81 said:
yes odin works on linux but its called heimdall
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Touche, forgot all about that program. Used to use it on my galaxy tab.
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yiannisthegreek said:
WOW!!! Why are there so many NEGATIVE and CRANKY people here in the Note forum? I have been a user of XDA for a loooooong time and I have never seen so many negative responses in any other device forum (except maybe the Galaxy Nexus forum - Their pretty cranky in there too).
Also... Who are you (or anyone for that matter) to say that if you are developing for Android on Windows that it is a disgrace? May I remind you that Windows is the 99.9 % DOMINANT Computer OS in the world?! If it was'nt for people developing on Windows I would have to say that we as a community would NOT have 90% of the ROMS, Themes, Tweaks or Apps that we have now so get real and keep your silly Linux fanboi comments to yourself.
As for the OP... All he is doing is trying to spread the word on that script which may indeed be helpful to someone who may NOT often check in the "Android" bulk forum so why dont you just cut him a break?
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Was the post useful for you? No
Was it useful for me? No
Was it useful for any developer here? No
Does it pertain to Note development? No
Is this guy ever gonna check back on this post? No
Is Linux better than Windows? Yes, tenfold...even for a non power user like myself.
Are we STILL stuck in a Windows centric world? Yes, unfortunately.
Do developers mainly develop with Windows in mind? Yes, unfortunately. I had to use a Windows computer, gasp, to root my Note because there was no way for me to root it with Linux until I found out about Heimdall.
Edit: Why am I and everyone else so cranky? Because we all have the best phone around and are therefore superior in every way. Duh.

smalmagal said:
Anybody using Windows shouldn't be developing for Android anyway...it's disgraceful.
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What's disgraceful is the arrogance of such a comment.

smalmagal said:
Edit: Why am I and everyone else so cranky? Because we all have the best phone around and are therefore superior in every way.
I too am a note user and I don't go around telling people " Hey look! I have a note, I am SUPERIOR than you "
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smalmagal said:
Was the post useful for you? No
Was it useful for me? No
Was it useful for any developer here? No
Does it pertain to Note development? No
Is this guy ever gonna check back on this post? No
Is Linux better than Windows? Yes, tenfold...even for a non power user like myself.
Are we STILL stuck in a Windows centric world? Yes, unfortunately.
Do developers mainly develop with Windows in mind? Yes, unfortunately. I had to use a Windows computer, gasp, to root my Note because there was no way for me to root it with Linux until I found out about Heimdall.
Edit: Why am I and everyone else so cranky? Because we all have the best phone around and are therefore superior in every way. Duh.
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well i just said no to all the points you disagree with from the OP..
linux is better than windows for certain tasks but windows is still far superior over linux in many ways, just because you use it it doesnt necessarily mean its the best, same withthe galaxy note, unfortunately its the i own it so its the best mentality situation

Macs don't get viruses huh?

http://news.yahoo.com/more-600-000-macs-infected-flashback-malware-report-091608469.html
Next time someone says that, show them that article. It's hilarious. I know this has nothing to do with the Gnex...but some people here use Macs right?

Zacisblack said:
http://news.yahoo.com/more-600-000-macs-infected-flashback-malware-report-091608469.html
Next time someone says that, show them that article. It's hilarious. I know this has nothing to do with the Gnex...but some people here use Macs right?
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Tweet from Russia... Official news source for Yahoo hah

What a great post. sigh..

BlackDino said:
What a great post. sigh..
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Why bother reading? You knew what it was about before you clicked it.

nothing new. many years ago, there were virus found in a mac already.

BlackDino said:
What a great post. sigh..
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What a helpful post. sigh...
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I used Windows for almost my entire life and always was plagged with virus. Using a macbook since 2009 and never had any problem with them. Not looking back

Was it a worm?! (Apple...worm....virus gettit?)
Thankyouimhereallweek
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killyouridols said:
Was it a worm?! (Apple...worm....virus gettit?)
Thankyouimhereallweek
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
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when you fly into town, try not to tire your arms out

juliano_q said:
I used Windows for almost my entire life and always was plagged with virus. Using a macbook since 2009 and never had any problem with them. Not looking back
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Inexperienced user .. Never got a virus since xp.
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As this platform continues to skyrocket in popularity it will continue to be the target of viruses and malware. Fortunately Unix has built in permissions and now Apple will have to have patch Tuesday like Microsoft.

badantii said:
Inexperienced user .. Never got a virus since xp.
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This. My last virus was in Windows 98.

I got a Trojan once...
From the drug store.

mentose457 said:
I got a Trojan once...
From the drug store.
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Haha funny
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

mentose457 said:
I got a Trojan once...
From the drug store.
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Two possibilities here:
You don't get much.
You are married.
Which is it?

Macs are just as susceptible to viruses as anything else. Always have been. They just aren't targeted as much. Apple even sells an antivirus, they just keep it hush hush.
While windows is Targeted much much more, you can be much better defended if you know what you are doing.
The next time someone tells you, "Macs don't get viruses", ask them, "Then why does Apple sell an antivirus?"
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H7310LL/A
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Galaxy Nexus.

Sorry, double post from phone

Someone wanna tell me how this is relevant to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and why I shouldn't move this thread to the main off-topic forum?

Zacisblack said:
http://news.yahoo.com/more-600-000-macs-infected-flashback-malware-report-091608469.html
Next time someone says that, show them that article. It's hilarious. I know this has nothing to do with the Gnex...but some people here use Macs right?
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dharvey4651 said:
Someone wanna tell me how this is relevant to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and why I shouldn't move this thread to the main off-topic forum?
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I believe your answer is in the OP. (Sorry coudn't resist!) Thought about pointing it out but didn't want to encourage flaming.
Seriously though, thank you to the MODs for all their hard work! (Love your signature by the way)

I cant guess the last time I got a virus on Windows, maybe 1997/8?, and have never even thought about it on my MBP. Just ran a few terminal commands and still clean as a whistle. I use my Mac for all my Android stuff, dont have to worry about drivers...
Apple/Google bashing needs to stop. I love all my Google products and all my Apple products...who gives a damn who the manufacturer is, besides idiots...

does root void warranty in Wp8

does rooting in windows void warranty ?

Rooting violates warranty in any and every phone...

That aside: there currently is no way of rooting a WP8 device.

StevieBallz said:
That aside: there currently is no way of rooting a WP8 device.
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Yea, I was going to say the same thing. You can't void you warranty if you cant root your device.....YET..

Here's a silly question, is someone currently working on a root or is all hope given up? Just asking.

Most people working on WP have tended to stay rather quiet until there was something concrete to anounce. But given that they deemed most of the original Lumias unhackable unless they came from the factory with an unlocked Bootloader (as some did due to an error in manufacturing) it is entirely possible they are not working on trying to break Secure Boot.
But in the end: we simply don't know.

No.
No one is working on anything. Fact is, no one is interested.
You pick your poison, work on Lumia or work on a HTC device, but fact is there aren't enough modders/developers with devices to support any effort if there is any to begin with. Each device would require a different method , and the fact this secure boot is so different only adds to the dilemma.

vetvito said:
You pick your poison, work on Lumia or work on a HTC device, but fact is there aren't enough modders/developers with devices to support any effort if there is any to begin with. Each device would require a different method , and the fact this secure boot is so different only adds to the dilemma.
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Valid points, though I wonder if heathcliffs Samsung gen2 unlock can be used or modified to work, I think it uses some Microsoft exploit in conjunction with the network setup apps
vetvito said:
No.
No one is working on anything. Fact is, no one is interested.
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Ignore this constant pessimism from this user, his a bit like a broken record

dazza9075 said:
Valid points, though I wonder if heathcliffs Samsung gen2 unlock can be used or modified to work, I think it uses some Microsoft exploit in conjunction with the network setup apps
Ignore this constant pessimism from this user, his a bit like a broken record
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Sorry , but you quoted me twice. Keep on dreaming.

vetvito said:
Sorry , but you quoted me twice. Keep on dreaming.
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yes I did, because you made a good point but ruined it by passing your unwanted opinion along with it we all can dream, some dreams turn in to reality, those who do not dream end up sounding like a defeatist broken record with nothing better to do than moan
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dazza9075 said:
yes I did, because you made a good point but ruined it by passing your unwanted opinion along with it we all can dream, some dreams turn in to reality, those who do not dream end up sounding like a defeatist broken record with nothing better to do than moan
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Cute story but I'm a realist. There is no interest in these phones.
New phones will come out and these will be forgotten.

vetvito said:
Cute story but I'm a realist. There is no interest in these phones.
New phones will come out and these will be forgotten.
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Stating the obvious aren't we. There is interest in the phones otherwise we wouldn't be here, even your good dear self has an interest tho I've yet to work out what it is other than belittling wp and its users.
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dazza9075 said:
Stating the obvious aren't we. There is interest in the phones otherwise we wouldn't be here, even your good dear self has an interest tho I've yet to work out what it is other than belittling wp and its users.
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.......hmm ok? I'm a WP user.
Look at the developing forums, look at every single developing forum you can find on the web. There is nothing happening.

vetvito said:
.......hmm ok? I'm a WP user.
Look at the developing forums, look at every single developing forum you can find on the web. There is nothing happening.
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Well rather than wait for someone else to do it all why don't you try and contribute rather than just moan all the time, your wee pic is very appropriate!
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Stating a fact is moaning now? Ok....

Stating a fact is moaning now? Ok....
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Its not a fact, its an opinion, your stating an absolute when its not, what is a fact is that there doesn't appear to be much going on with WP
And even if it was a fact its still moaning? yes, knowing something negative and constantly going on about it is moaning, being proactive would be more useful and would actually contribute something meaningful
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dazza9075 said:
Its not a fact, its an opinion, your stating an absolute when its not, what is a fact is that there doesn't appear to be much going on with WP
And even if it was a fact its still moaning? yes, knowing something negative and constantly going on about it is moaning, being proactive would be more useful and would actually contribute something meaningful
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Lol
Moaning is what you are doing about my post.
No one is constantly going about anything except...you.
I'll be proactive , and let you post another post about what someone else is doing because I don't have the same viewpoint as you.
Cheers.

Fact matter is there is now begin to have a interest in WP. But you still look at there user base normal every day people I class WP like iphone yea they jailed break the phone but still most of the users would not have a clue to do that. Unlike android where it is open source and you have developer coming from every direction so it's easy to creak device after another. I love my 8x it's nice not to have that option to flash or unlock bootloader is a phone in the end of the day and that is what I have been looking for all this time
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HTC said to be working on a One variant with Windows Phone

Source:
Neowin
or read it at TechnoBuffalo
Exciting news if you ask me. Thoughts?

nate234 said:
Source:
Neowin
or read it at TechnoBuffalo
Exciting news if you ask me. Thoughts?
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Yeah, the main thing will be if it is on the same chipset as the current ONE. If it is, then it could be possible. It would be fun to play with for sure!

raptoro07 said:
Yeah, the main thing will be if it is on the same chipset as the current ONE. If it is, then it could be possible. It would be fun to play with for sure!
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Only time will tell I guess

raptoro07 said:
Yeah, the main thing will be if it is on the same chipset as the current ONE. If it is, then it could be possible. It would be fun to play with for sure!
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My thoughts exactly. I'm no Windows fan, but sure would be awesome to play with.
Sent Via My HTC One, On The Now Network By Sprint!

Rydah805 said:
My thoughts exactly. I'm no Windows fan, but sure would be awesome to play with.
Sent Via My HTC One, On The Now Network By Sprint!
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I'm definitely an Android type of guy, but I think it would be really cool if the HTC One became legendary for its development much like the HD2 or something.. Time will tell

Whyyyyyyyy? I thought they were trying to make a come back, not spread themselves thin over different carriers and platforms
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FrozenRiff said:
Whyyyyyyyy? I thought they were trying to make a come back, not spread themselves thin over different carriers and platforms
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Think of the options. If they make one device and you can have your pick of sense, aosp, or windows which is actually gaining market share. I think the idea is kinda brilliant. Especially if its the same exact device.
How is it considered spreading yourself thin if you're making the same device on multiple carriers anyways?

It would be a great idea to have one device with multiple platform choices. However, it sounds like the Windows device is going to have ddr3 memory so I wonder what else will be different? I could completely see myself switching platforms weekly, it's like getting a new phone, but keeping the same one.
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It would be illegal to put windows on your phone if it didn't come with it. It would also be illegal to modify it, or distribute a windows ROM.

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It would be illegal to put windows on your phone if it didn't come with it. It would also be illegal to modify it, or distribute a windows ROM.
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This is the same age old question/problem that has plaqued XDA since it's inception. Technically, everything we do here on the site is Illegal (or at least against the wishes of the manufacturers).

flar2 said:
It would be illegal to put windows on your phone if it didn't come with it. It would also be illegal to modify it, or distribute a windows ROM.
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One thing comes mind when reading this. HTC HD2

sorry guys differnet specs than our phone.....
source
http://s.htc.com/14xdgwD

flar2 said:
It would be illegal to put windows on your phone if it didn't come with it. It would also be illegal to modify it, or distribute a windows ROM.
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When did this change? I got started in modifying my phone with windows mobile and it was never an issue then. That's when i started on xda and ppcgeeks. ROM development was a different scene and the process was different but windows software was modified hacked and releases for the masses.
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sorry guys differnet specs than our phone.....
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Bastards get an SD slot.....

p3tr0s said:
When did this change? I got started in modifying my phone with windows mobile and it was never an issue then. That's when i started on xda and ppcgeeks. ROM development was a different scene and the process was different but windows software was modified hacked and releases for the masses.
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Nothing changed. As I said before, it is the same old issue that has always been an issue. Technically most ROM modification stuff going on here is illegal.

A few thoughts:
1 - The difference between us and the HD2 is that the HD2 started with Windows Phone on it. Then, it got an improved Windows Phone 7, but I think they got away with it because the device initially had WP. Then, it got Android. In that order, its fine because Android is open source. Unfortunately, WP is not open source. MeeGo and Tizen are open source, and perhaps could be ported to the One if the development is good enough/popular enough. Never underestimate the power of the developers on this forum: especially when they team up.
2 - They get an SD card slot? UNFAIR!! :crying:
3 - @raptoro07 It says in your sig. that you have 2 HTC Ones. Wanna give one to me? Lol I haven't gotten mine yet--I'm not sure if I'll go with AT&T or Sprint. I really wanna stay with Sprint since I've met a lot of devs on here that have Sprint who I like and I want to have their work on my future devices. But, as long as I'm on a shared plan with my parents, I can't make that decision. This qualifies another :crying: if you ask me.

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3 - @raptoro07 It says in your sig. that you have 2 HTC Ones. Wanna give one to me? Lol I haven't gotten mine yet--I'm not sure if I'll go with AT&T or Sprint. I really wanna stay with Sprint since I've met a lot of devs on here that have Sprint who I like and I want to have their work on my future devices. But, as long as I'm on a shared plan with my parents, I can't make that decision. This qualifies another :crying: if you ask me.
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If you don't mind the ugly logo on the back, the AT&T One is exactly like the Google Play edition/Dev edition (AFAIK). Except, you know, the logo on the back.
Also, Android is open source. Windows is not. That means it's less illegal...
While the actual distribution of full ROMs is technically illegal (you're "stealing" HTC's code), I'm pretty sure you're allowed to modify your own phone, even if it does remove warranty.

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This is the same age old question/problem that has plaqued XDA since it's inception. Technically, everything we do here on the site is Illegal (or at least against the wishes of the manufacturers).
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Windows is paid ssoftware with a very restrictive license. Cyanogenmod,aosp, linux kernel, and many other projects here are free and have open source licenses that encourage people to modify and distribute the software.

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Windows is paid ssoftware with a very restrictive license. Cyanogenmod,aosp, linux kernel, and many other projects here are free and have open source licenses that encourage people to modify and distribute the software.
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However Sense, Beats, Touchwiz, and other OEM software is not open and therefore redistribution of them and modifications are technically illegal. My point was only to say that it is no different than 90% of what is going on XDA.

Take a look here. The HTC 8XT with boomsound. Windows 8 phone.
http://sprint.com/landings/windows8...indows8&adSelectData=1:Module_Windows8_052113
Typed on my Sprint HTC ONE
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Also here are the specs of both windows 8 phones coming to sprint.
http://specsofgadgets.com/htc-8xt-vs-samsung-ativ-s-neo/
Typed on my Sprint HTC ONE

joseh92 said:
Take a look here. The HTC 8XT with boomsound. Windows 8 phone.
http://sprint.com/landings/windows8...indows8&adSelectData=1:Module_Windows8_052113
Typed on my Sprint HTC ONE
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Also here are the specs of both windows 8 phones coming to sprint.
http://specsofgadgets.com/htc-8xt-vs-samsung-ativ-s-neo/
Typed on my Sprint HTC ONE
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If you ask me, neither look like something to write home about. I would've loved it back in 2011 when I went to buy an HTC Arrive. But, then I got an Android, and, yeah I'm pretty much addicted now.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND....
Android could be ported to either of these devices with no real legal uncertainty... It depends which and how many devs buy one.