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Where is the WiFi + 3G version for the Nook Color?

Where is the 3G version for the Nook Color? I would have considered it if this were available.

Why do you want a 3g version and pay a monthly fee to go only when u can just tether it to you phoned go online
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Yep I just use free tethering. Why would you want a contract on this device?

I don't get it either. There is so much free WiFi and the ability to tether to a phone, I don't know why people want to pay $10-30 a month just to have it built in. I guess if it was provided for free by B&N we would jump at it, but considering how "hackable" Android is, they would open themselves to HUGE data charges.

Sirchuk said:
I don't get it either. There is so much free WiFi and the ability to tether to a phone, I don't know why people want to pay $10-30 a month just to have it built in. I guess if it was provided for free by B&N we would jump at it, but considering how "hackable" Android is, they would open themselves to HUGE data charges.
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I agree - it comes with pandora and a web browser, that would be suicide. Even their shop is more data intensive. Unless they had a way to make sure there was data only in shop?

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Where is the 3G version for the Nook Color? I would have considered it if this were available.
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There is a Nook version like that but some inconsiderate marketing manager out there slapped a 600 dollar price to it and named it after the Korean space program

The original nook has free 3G through AT&T and does not require any contract. It's nice to be able to buy a book in areas that don't have wifi.
That being said browsing the store, buying books, and updating the firmware is about all that can be done over 3G. It can't be used for web browsing which is wifi only, so maybe that's why it's free

I'm not sure they are going to 3g units anymore. When I'm on the road, the unit updates itself and will download books. Today I downloaded a couple of free books while going down the road. Not only were the books free but bn would have to pay for 3g time. I just wonder if the economics are there to continue 3g for free.
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I don't get this one at all. There are plenty of tablets with 3g connectivity, and oh by the way, they all cost 2-3 times as much.
I don't need cellular access on my ereader/tablet, and I'm more than willing to take the 350 in savings to avoid it.

From Xoom to the Galaxy Tab?? Well, Maybe..

Hey guys and gals, just seeking your thoughts on the Galaxy Tab Wifi, not looking to start a versus thread. I LOVE my Xoom but I don’t love the size, the weight isn’t an issue, I think I could go for a smaller screen size though. Still not totally convinced a tablet is for me but I think I would use it more if I could slide it in my back pocket. So here goes:
1) I see a lot of Roms for the Galaxy tab but they seem to be geared towards certain versions; CDMA/GSM, etc. The same for Kernels, will these Roms/Kernels work with the wifi-only tab.
2) What do you guys think about the Galaxy Tab in general? Any deal-breaking issues out there? Nothing seems to stand out from scanning the forums.
Thanks. Looking forward to your comments.

As far as custom roms and development on the Tab goes, you're best bet is a GSM based Tab. I love my Tab (Sprint) for what I use it for. I do wish there was more options for custom roms/kernels but for my purposes (other than to keep me from flashing my phone as often) my stock rooted Tab works fantastically. The 10" tablets are just too big for my liking. Like you said, it's better when you can just slip it in your pocket and go. Not sure that the GSM or CDMA roms/kernels would work with the wifi only version, you'd probably run into the same brick issues that happen if you try and use a GSM rom on a CDMA tab and vice versa.

As a guy that went from Asus Transformer (gave it to my mom) to a Gtab Euro GSM, it's awesome. I love the smaller size of the GTab. Like the poster above me, I would recommend you get a GSM or CDMA GTab, then hack it to be able to use it as a phone. Why? Just cause but it's up to you. If you have an unlimited data plan, then why not, right? All the ROMs are for GSM/CDMA, so I got one. No point in getting a Wifi only when there are no ROM's & Kernels for it.
Hope that helps & best of luck in your decision.

Thanks guys. That helps a lot. You're right, there are no roms for the wifi version, just searched through the development section. Think it's time to start shopping other versions... Don't want to add a second line to my plan though.
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lrs421 said:
Thanks guys. That helps a lot. You're right, there are no roms for the wifi version, just searched through the development section. Think it's time to start shopping other versions... Don't want to add a second line to my plan though.
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You don't have to add a second line. Buy a Verizon GTab on Craigslist & only use wifi. I only use the phone function to show off to my friends to get a good laugh, I'm always using wifi.

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You don't have to add a second line. Buy a Verizon GTab on Craigslist & only use wifi. I only use the phone function to show off to my friends to get a good laugh, I'm always using wifi.
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I have the refurb Sprint Tab that was on w00t a couple weeks back, and while I am a sprint user, if i want internet on my Tab, I can just tether it to my phone. Always on wifi with it otherwise. Don't see a need for a 3g data plan on it myself. If you keep your eyes open, there's deals on them all the time. For a while At&t was selling refurb Tabs for $250 and no contract, it was a month to month data service you could cancel whenever.

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I have the refurb Sprint Tab that was on w00t a couple weeks back, and while I am a sprint user, if i want internet on my Tab, I can just tether it to my phone. Always on wifi with it otherwise. Don't see a need for a 3g data plan on it myself. If you keep your eyes open, there's deals on them all the time. For a while At&t was selling refurb Tabs for $250 and no contract, it was a month to month data service you could cancel whenever.
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Cool. So I can get one for a specific carrier and I can use it as wifi only and not bother with their data plans?
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Cool. So I can get one for a specific carrier and I can use it as wifi only and not bother with their data plans?
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That's right.
Also, the carrier ones have a better processor and gpu as well.
Call Tmobile, they have an Even More Plus plan that is no contract and they give you the tab for $300 (if you sign up for a $40 plan), just cancel prior to the second month and you have a GSM tab for the Wifi price.

If you are interested in chopping and changing roms then the GSM tab is the way to go... More developers and greater chance of new roms to try, CDMA has a more advanced version of Honeycomb (still Alpha though) but GSM version seems to be catching up...

Thanks guys, I'm pretty sure I want the galaxy tab due to its size and dev community on the GSM version. I think I'll go the pay as I go tmobile route. Time to move my beloved xoom....
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SteveSlimer said:
Call Tmobile, they have an Even More Plus plan that is no contract and they give you the tab for $300 (if you sign up for a $40 plan), just cancel prior to the second month and you have a GSM tab for the Wifi price.
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How do you avoid the $200 early termination fee?

vsc said:
How do you avoid the $200 early termination fee?
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If there is no contract, wouldn't mean there is no early termination fee?
One way to avoid it is to buy BNIB from Craigslist.org. That's where I bought my Euro T-Mobile GTab from. Anything $300 or lower is a good price.

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If there is no contract, wouldn't mean there is no early termination fee?.
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No contract seems to be $499, at least as of today.

lrs421 said:
Hey guys and gals, just seeking your thoughts on the Galaxy Tab Wifi, not looking to start a versus thread. I LOVE my Xoom but I don’t love the size, the weight isn’t an issue, I think I could go for a smaller screen size though. Still not totally convinced a tablet is for me but I think I would use it more if I could slide it in my back pocket. So here goes:
1) I see a lot of Roms for the Galaxy tab but they seem to be geared towards certain versions; CDMA/GSM, etc. The same for Kernels, will these Roms/Kernels work with the wifi-only tab.
2) What do you guys think about the Galaxy Tab in general? Any deal-breaking issues out there? Nothing seems to stand out from scanning the forums.
Thanks. Looking forward to your comments.
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I'll swap you for my euro tab (P1000)

vsc said:
No contract seems to be $499, at least as of today.
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IC, I would try out Craigslist.org.

vsc said:
How do you avoid the $200 early termination fee?
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The EM+ Plan doesn't have one because its mo-mo.
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If there is no contract, wouldn't mean there is no early termination fee?
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No contract seems to be $499, at least as of today.
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It was an option when I got my tab a week and a half ago. Maybe it's only because I'm a current customer.

I considered waiting for the Xoom but really the ability to carry around the smaller tablet was the deciding factor for me.

if spacemoose gets 100% (80-90% is no bad) working HC on SGT . definitely SGT HC is better than xoom . Go spacemoose !!

Wifi Tethering (T-Mobile)

I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:

playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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You may find you answer in the t-mobile thread
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Great disregard my post if this is known
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playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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they include 500mb tethering in their plan. more than that, you need to pay. 500mb isnt much.

I know that my statement is that unlimited data vets you free tethering...at least it did for me.. Just an FYI to others call and check
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playya said:
I know that my statement is that unlimited data vets you free tethering...at least it did for me.. Just an FYI to others call and check
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Only for the first 500, as stated above.

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Only for the first 500, as stated above.
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Not sure how else to say this but here we go. Yesterday while in the T- Mobile store the rep I formed me of a recent change. Anyone with unlimited internet can now get tethering for free.... Unlimited tethering and not the first 509 as stated on the web by T-Mobile. I am not a rookie and was simply passing this on .Now if you have asked a rep today and they told you different then fine. But if your statements are based on anything prior to today ease refrain til you ask. Now I am simply posting as said prior as an FYI.... If I am wrong and it slows down after then my info was incorrect but until then I am going with what I was told... Again just trying to help I am on vacation now but will check my acct later and post screenshots if applicable
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Yes you get 500mb of tethering but there are questions as to T-mobile can truly track it since the Nexus 4 does not switch APNs when tethering like other phones do
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playya said:
Not sure how else to say this but here we go. Yesterday while in the T- Mobile store the rep I formed me of a recent change. Anyone with unlimited internet can now get tethering for free.... Unlimited tethering and not the first 509 as stated on the web by T-Mobile. I am not a rookie and was simply passing this on .Now if you have asked a rep today and they told you different then fine. But if your statements are based on anything prior to today ease refrain til you ask. Now I am simply posting as said prior as an FYI.... If I am wrong and it slows down after then my info was incorrect but until then I am going with what I was told... Again just trying to help I am on vacation now but will check my acct later and post screenshots if applicable
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There IS a recent change in the fine print language that indeed allows 500MB of tethering on 'Unlimited' data accounts, and I believe this is what the rep was referring to, whether intentional or not. It likely will never be 'unlimited tether' due to the fact of network restraints, and they have repeatedly indicated they do NOT want to be anyone's ISP for home-based bandwidth. Widespread 'unlimited tether' would bring this network to its knees in mere days. Please consider that this rep wasn't completely knowledgeable/forthcoming.

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There IS a recent change in the fine print language that indeed allows 500MB of tethering on 'Unlimited' data accounts, and I believe this is what the rep was referring to, whether intentional or not. It likely will never be 'unlimited tether' due to the fact of network restraints, and they have repeatedly indicated they do NOT want to be anyone's ISP for home-based bandwidth. Widespread 'unlimited tether' would bring this network to its knees in mere days. Please consider that this rep wasn't completely knowledgeable/forthcoming.
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Quite true it was hard for me to test since I am rooted and I am having my friend test on his IPhone. Easy to think the rep may of told me something wrong. Either way its more than what we had before Thx...
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playya said:
Quite true it was hard for me to test since I am rooted and I am having my friend test on his IPhone. Easy to think the rep may of told me something wrong. Either way its more than what we had before Thx...
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Welp, I did some quick google-digging, and DID come up with an interesting change in terms on all plans BUT the Unlimited Nationwide 4G, which still maintains the 500MB limit:
http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-4g-data-no-contract
This page indicates all other 'Unlimited' data plans (no UN4G) can tether to their full rate...and fall back to 2G when the bucket empties. I'm happy to be wrong, playya! LOL!
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Aw man: again misleading..the fine print:
"Smartphone Mobile Hotspot: (Tethering/Wi-Fi Sharing): Qualifying plan required. Plan data allotment applies.; Unlimited 4G data plan includes 500 MB of tethering. No roaming. Use of connected devices subject to T-Mobile Terms and Conditions."
This statement can be read several ways, naturally...TMO really needs to step up and simplify this silly language.

wideasleep1 said:
Welp, I did some quick google-digging, and DID come up with an interesting change in terms on all plans BUT the Unlimited Nationwide 4G, which still maintains the 500MB limit:
http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-4g-data-no-contract
This page indicates all other 'Unlimited' data plans (no UN4G) can tether to their full rate...and fall back to 2G when the bucket empties. I'm happy to be wrong, playya! LOL!
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Fyi- it was never about right or wrong just trying to pass some info along that I was given. Thx for the link and hope it helps others... Make the switch for free......
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playya said:
Fyi- it was never about right or wrong just trying to pass some info along that I was given. Thx for the link and hope it helps others... Make the switch for free......
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Gotcha...correct info is more important than right/wrong. I just recall several months back a thread where users were bemoaning paying for Unlimited Nationwide 4G and not getting ANY tethering...even when they wished to pay extra for it...it simply wasn't offered (assumed too abusive to the network). Even I was shocked they changed and allowed 500MB on that UN4G plan. Cheers!

I have the $30 pre paid 5 gig plan and you can add tethering for $15 a month. I have used it though with apps just during power outages. I never had an issue but I don't come close to using the 5 gigs anyways.
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playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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Thanks @playaa:thumbup:
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MandoH said:
Thanks @playaa:thumbup:
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No prob glad it helped

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No prob glad it helped
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I just added it to my plan. I chatted with them first to confirm that it could later be canceled without affecting the basic plan. They prorated the first monthly fee because I'm already in middle of the billing period.
It annoys me that they make it so hard to find exact terms and conditions. At the moment, the blurb on the signup page doesn't say anything about limiting the high speeds to the first 500 MB, just says "Plan data allotment applies." The allotment is first 5 GB at up to 4G speed; time will tell if I get that with other connected devices.
How would they even know (sorry if that's an ignorant question)? Truth be told, I've been tethering all afternoon since my DSL went down. I decided to make it "official" when I found out it could take a couple of days to get my regular DSL back up again, but I didn't have any problems throughout the afternoon tethering a laptop and a tablet. Other than suddenly seeing a surge of use, how would they know I have tethered devices?

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I just added it to my plan. I chatted with them first to confirm that it could later be canceled without affecting the basic plan. They prorated the first monthly fee because I'm already in middle of the billing period.
It annoys me that they make it so hard to find exact terms and conditions. At the moment, the blurb on the signup page doesn't say anything about limiting the high speeds to the first 500 MB, just says "Plan data allotment applies." The allotment is first 5 GB at up to 4G speed; time will tell if I get that with other connected devices.
How would they even know (sorry if that's an ignorant question)? Truth be told, I've been tethering all afternoon since my DSL went down. I decided to make it "official" when I found out it could take a couple of days to get my regular DSL back up again, but I didn't have any problems throughout the afternoon tethering a laptop and a tablet. Other than suddenly seeing a surge of use, how would they know I have tethered devices?
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They randomly check user agent strings. I started getting the warning texts a few months ago (was on value unlimited which doesn't have a tethering allotment) and then they blocked me from accessing Internet Explorer from my laptop via mobile hotspot (but could still use Chrome or my iPad). One phone called they switched me to Simple Choice and kept my contract term so I didn't have to pay a migration fee.
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I just switched to unlimited 4g a few weeks ago and I've occasionally gotten rerouted to a page that says I don't have tethering or I've reached my data limit. Disabling tethering and reloading the page works to bypass the page I'm using native android tether, and that's the only problem I've seen so far.

Mobile WiFi Hotspot

I'm giving up on my Huawei E160 3G dongle. It seems to struggle getting a signal so is proving unreliable. Instead I plan to get a 4G WiFi hotspot. Which ones are people using on their headunits? Any in particular recommended? ZTE MF910?

I bought a tp link 5654 4g router. I have no problems with it, since i bought it 2 weeks ago. Strong signal and dont notice a drop from 4g when using it. Also long stand-by and what i like is that when there is no connection between device and tp it goes in fly modus so langer stand-by. So i can leave it in the car. When i go in the car one prees on the button and it Will establish a 4g connection and WiFi and i can use it.
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I have a ZTE MF923, I just received it a couple days ago. I have it plugged in in my center console which has switched power so my hopes are that the battery will last long enough through the nights and it will charge long enough during my drives that I will never have to shut it off.
If it doesn't last long enough off of the built in battery, I'm going to take my 16000mAh portable battery and plug it into that, and then have the portable battery plugged into the switched power...haha

I use a zte z915 from t-mobile. It's always plugged in, doesn't draw enough juice to kill the battery. Works great too and supports band 12 lte.

I'm using the Karma GO. It's LTE Speeds and once you buy the device there are no monthly fee's or plans that you have to join. Data is about $10-15 per gig. They have occasional sales like Black Friday where you can get it down to as low as $5 a gig. Once you buy the data it is yours (does not expire). There are other options as well with them as well. If other people hook up to it, they get 100mb free and you also get 100mb free. I pretty much just use it for Waze on my HU and haven't even used up a GB yet since July. https://yourkarma.com/invite/chris59588

I use an at&t Mobley and it work's great.
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i just use my phone for a hotspot.

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I'm using the Karma GO. It's LTE Speeds and once you buy the device there are no monthly fee's or plans that you have to join. Data is about $10-15 per gig. They have occasional sales like Black Friday where you can get it down to as low as $5 a gig. Once you buy the data it is yours (does not expire). There are other options as well with them as well. If other people hook up to it, they get 100mb free and you also get 100mb free. I pretty much just use it for Waze on my HU and haven't even used up a GB yet since July. https://yourkarma.com/invite/chris59588
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I have a device that I bought from Wal Mart that uses their "Internet on the Go" service that's similar, but without the high initial hardware cost of the Karma (and I believe it's the same hardware - looks nearly identical but without the Karma logo). The Internet on the Go hotspot (a UMX MXL-655 that uses the Sprint LTE network) cost me $45 (vs $150 for the Go), but the data is $18-20/gig (I just bought my first 3GB refill for $55, but they also offer 300MB for $10 or 2GB for $45.) I've been using it for less than a month, but so far I haven't had any issues.
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i just use my phone for a hotspot.
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I would if I could (AT&T unlimited plan).

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I have a device that I bought from Wal Mart that uses their "Internet on the Go" service that's similar, but without the high initial hardware cost of the Karma (and I believe it's the same hardware - looks nearly identical but without the Karma logo). The Internet on the Go hotspot (a UMX MXL-655 that uses the Sprint LTE network) cost me $45 (vs $150 for the Go), but the data is $18-20/gig (I just bought my first 3GB refill for $55, but they also offer 300MB for $10 or 2GB for $45.) I've been using it for less than a month, but so far I haven't had any issues.
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I would if I could (AT&T unlimited plan).
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you can, there are threads here. pretty much any rom will allow tethering and even if you are just rooted you can install a hacked tethering_provision file.

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you can, there are threads here. pretty much any rom will allow tethering and even if you are just rooted you can install a hacked tethering_provision file.
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True, if I were using an Android phone (like my Galaxy S5 with CM13), but I'm not. And my iPhone isn't jailbroken. And it's not worth it to me to run Android on my main handset, so....mobile hotspot it is!

is the iphone hotspot app still $20 on cydia? i think that was the only app i ever bought on iphone.

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is the iphone hotspot app still $20 on cydia? i think that was the only app i ever bought on iphone.
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Unsure, I bought it many iOS versions ago and just re-download it from Cydia.

I bought this: http://zubie.com/ - WIFI hotspot and OBDII reader. If you have Verizon its $5 a month, very happy with it. Works great. My head unit connects to its WIFI network.

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I bought this: http://zubie.com/ - WIFI hotspot and OBDII reader. If you have Verizon its $5 a month, very happy with it. Works great. My head unit connects to its WIFI network.
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https://argus-sec.com/blog/remote-attack-aftermarket-telematics-service/

Verizon Pixel 4 Xl

Am I the only one getting a Pixel 4 xl from Verizon? They have a 450 trade in offer for upgrades. I bought a used Galaxy S5 for 50 bucks and will be trading it in for the $450. I honestly used to love rooting my phones but I haven't bothered the past year and haven't missed it. So that doesn't really matter to me anymore.

New Rising said:
Am I the only one getting a Pixel 4 xl from Verizon? They have a 450 trade in offer for upgrades. I bought a used Galaxy S5 for 50 bucks and will be trading it in for the $450. I honestly used to love rooting my phones but I haven't bothered the past year and haven't missed it. So that doesn't really matter to me anymore.
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I did the exact same thing. My Pixel 4 XL arrives tomorrow!

If you don't care about rooting your phone then Verizon is the way to go.

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If you don't care about rooting your phone then Verizon is the way to go.
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Sometimes people find an exploit and can open up rooting/unlocked bootloaders on Verizon, sometimes they can't. But ultimately, since Pixel phones come without any bloat, I find rooting to be mostly unnecessary. If it happens, then great! If it doesn't, I feel no loss. And in the meantime, I'm saving about $400 ($450 in trade-in, minus shelling out $60 for the phone to trade in).

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Sometimes people find an exploit and can open up rooting/unlocked bootloaders on Verizon, sometimes they can't. But ultimately, since Pixel phones come without any bloat, I find rooting to be mostly unnecessary. If it happens, then great! If it doesn't, I feel no loss. And in the meantime, I'm saving about $400 ($450 in trade-in, minus shelling out $60 for the phone to trade in).
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I only need root for system optimizations, allowing tethering (since Verizon thinks they can bar you from using a feature of your phone) and Viper4Android. Other than that I wouldn't need to root. I long for the day when I can just buy a phone and not have to worry about it.

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I only need root for system optimizations, allowing tethering (since Verizon thinks they can bar you from using a feature of your phone) and Viper4Android. Other than that I wouldn't need to root. I long for the day when I can just buy a phone and not have to worry about it.
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I'm a Verizon customer with a Pixel 2 XL and locked bootloader, and can use my phone as a hotspot. I use the feature pretty regularly to get my tablet online. Are they disabling that for some folks?

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I'm a Verizon customer with a Pixel 2 XL and locked bootloader, and can use my phone as a hotspot. I use the feature pretty regularly to get my tablet online. Are they disabling that for some folks?
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Not sure how you are doing that. There is a provisioning thing that pops up if you don't pay the $30 to use it and you're on Verizon. You might be paying for it and not know it. I'd check.

The other great reason for obtaining root is using VPN and VPN tethering. If you use both of those apps, you can bypass ALL carrier caps on hotspot tethering. They also can't throttle video usage because you are behind a VPN.

rester555 said:
The other great reason for obtaining root is using VPN and VPN tethering. If you use both of those apps, you can bypass ALL carrier caps on hotspot tethering. They also can't throttle video usage because you are behind a VPN.
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Yes, that as well. I don't have to do that right now though because I am still grandfathered into unlimited (no throttle) data with Verizon. I still use a VPN though sometimes.

GohanBurner said:
Not sure how you are doing that. There is a provisioning thing that pops up if you don't pay the $30 to use it and you're on Verizon. You might be paying for it and not know it. I'd check.
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Most Verizon plans include mobile hotspot at no additional cost. I'm on the fUDP, which includes 15 gigs of hotspot (see attached screenshot). And all current unlimited plans larger than the Start Unlimited include it as well (see second screenshot). Lastly, it doesn't limit me to slow speeds, either (see the third screenshot from my tablet, tethered to my phone). No extra charge! ?

btonetbone said:
Most Verizon plans include mobile hotspot at no additional cost. I'm on the fUDP, which includes 15 gigs of hotspot (see attached screenshot). And all current unlimited plans larger than the Start Unlimited include it as well (see second screenshot). Lastly, it doesn't limit me to slow speeds, either (see the third screenshot from my tablet, tethered to my phone). No extra charge!
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Yeah, I guess it has been awhile. Still on a plan from like 2009 lol.

rester555 said:
The other great reason for obtaining root is using VPN and VPN tethering. If you use both of those apps, you can bypass ALL carrier caps on hotspot tethering. They also can't throttle video usage because you are behind a VPN.
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I don't use a VPN, but it's available in the settings without the need to root. See the attached screenshot.

GohanBurner said:
Yeah, I guess it has been awhile. Still on a plan from like 2009 lol.
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Ha ha, yeah, you might want to check and ensure you are still on the most cost-effective plan for your needs! The fUDP is best for me, since I've got 6 people. We split the $100 monthly nut 6 ways ($16.67 each), and each person has a $20/month access fee. Even after taxes, it's under $40 per month for a legit unlimited plan that includes hotspot and 720p video. There's a guide on reddit r/Verizon on how to enroll in the fUDP, if it's an effective plan for you. If you've got fewer lines, then some of the current plans are cheaper.

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Ha ha, yeah, you might want to check and ensure you are still on the most cost-effective plan for your needs! The fUDP is best for me, since I've got 6 people. We split the $100 monthly nut 6 ways ($16.67 each), and each person has a $20/month access fee. Even after taxes, it's under $40 per month for a legit unlimited plan that includes hotspot and 720p video. There's a guide on reddit r/Verizon on how to enroll in the fUDP, if it's an effective plan for you. If you've got fewer lines, then some of the current plans are cheaper.
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I'm holding onto this plan strictly because of 5G. If I have this plan when 5G finally rolls out then I will cut my home internet back to the most basic package (for the always-on security stuff in my home). Then I'll use my phone as my primary internet again. Had been using 300-400GB/mo from 2009-2018.5.

btonetbone said:
I don't use a VPN, but it's available in the settings without the need to root. See the attached screenshot.
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It's not the VPN that you need root for, it's VPN tethering so you don't have to worry about the ISP (Verizon, AT&T, T-mobile, and Sprint) throttling your hotspot usage @ 15 to 20 GB's per month. You can use it forever without hitting the fake usage limit that the ISPs dictate.
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I'm holding onto this plan strictly because of 5G. If I have this plan when 5G finally rolls out then I will cut my home internet back to the most basic package (for the always-on security stuff in my home). Then I'll use my phone as my primary internet again. Had been using 300-400GB/mo from 2009-2018.5.
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Amen, I am waiting for Verizon's fixed 5G service to hit where I live. Then I can kick my wired ISP to the curve, **** COX (suckers), COMCAST, SPECTRUM, AT&T, and the othered wired internet providers. They are monopolies with the state governments acting as their pimps.
Verizon's 5G fixed service is only $50 per month.

Yeah i'm on the fence here. My LgV30 has 1 month left on device payment plan. With the trade in I can get the P4 XL 128 for $23 a month which is less than I was paying for my LG, but then free is less than $23/month lol.

New Rising said:
Am I the only one getting a Pixel 4 xl from Verizon? They have a 450 trade in offer for upgrades. I bought a used Galaxy S5 for 50 bucks and will be trading it in for the $450. I honestly used to love rooting my phones but I haven't bothered the past year and haven't missed it. So that doesn't really matter to me anymore.
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Mine wasn't working the other day, but is now. Try a couple power off cycles (not just restart)?

I purchased as 4 XL thru my job on VZW. I haven't felt a need to root my phone for at least the last few years (last phone I rooted was an HTC device I cant remember. LOL

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Sometimes people find an exploit and can open up rooting/unlocked bootloaders on Verizon, sometimes they can't. But ultimately, since Pixel phones come without any bloat, I find rooting to be mostly unnecessary. If it happens, then great! If it doesn't, I feel no loss. And in the meantime, I'm saving about $400 ($450 in trade-in, minus shelling out $60 for the phone to trade in).
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Don't hold your breath for an exploit. They didn't find one for the 2 or the 3. They found one for the OG Pixel, but only under a certain firmware version.