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android 2.2???

i was just curious if the hero was getting the 2.2 update? doesnt look like much of a difference but im still curious

It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.

lol, let the 2.2 threads begin....
We barely got 2.1.
Im sure after the devs get froyo working, sprint will steal it, mod it slightly, leak it back out to the devs for them to tweak, and us to test, then sprint will release it officially about 6 months later, blaming htc for the hold up and it will still have tons of problems. Then the devs will figure out how to root it and sprint/htc will put out a update almost the next day to patch the root exploit.
Anyone else have a idea?

DevinXtreme said:
It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.
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So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement (har har har oh not funny). Yeah your right we'll probably never see an official release. Unlike tmobile who have said or rumored to say all their phones that can get it will.

thatguythatdid said:
So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement.
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Nope. I would, however, say it would be pretty Xtreme
I would love to see 2.2 on my Hero. Especially because that would mean I could go into Sprint and show them that my Hero is running faster than their EVO

thanks for the feedback guys. yeah i was watching videos of the nexus one running 2.2 and that thing was blazing fast!!!

i sent HTC a message last night asking if the hero was going to get the 2.2 release and this was there response...
(Hello Chris, Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support about your device. Before releasing a ROM update we have to be sure that the software is going to work properly on your hardware and on your carrier’s network. This testing does take some time but will result in an update that is optimized to work on your device and on your carrier’s network. While we want to release software as soon as we can we will only do so once the software has passed our quality standards. At this time we do not have any information about an update for your device. When the update is released it will be announced on HTC.com.)

So basically "We don't feel like it"

abcdfv said:
So basically "We don't feel like it"
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yeah basically who needs official anyways. we can do it ourselfs!! lolol

the 2.1s are still buggy... stock or not. i don't even want to think about 2.2 yet.

Only way to fix bugs is with updates.
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whats next?????

so with the impending release of gingerbread and the need for a 1ghz processor, what is in store for us at that point???
any ideas or guesses?

Wait untill its out then we will see if theres a way to make it work smoothly.
I must say that these "OMG something in the future may be bad, lets look for new devices" - posts are a bit annoying.
I personally hope that this specs are only for the regular updatet android devices and that the devs will handle this.

I'm waiting for the wildfire to be cracked, then we could potentially port native froyo sense made for devices similar to ours

piperthedj said:
so with the impending release of gingerbread and the need for a 1ghz processor, what is in store for us at that point???
any ideas or guesses?
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the 1ghz thing was never confirmed, engadget ran that story and the one guy from google said that they had no plans for minimum hardware requirements

scottter said:
I'm waiting for the wildfire to be cracked, then we could potentially port native froyo sense made for devices similar to ours
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Pretty sure it still runs Eclair, but either way. The wildfire build would be nice.

Android 2.3

Will it be possible for us to get 2.3 ported on the milestone?

We haven't even got official 2.2 yet...

cherrybombaz said:
Will it be possible for us to get 2.3 ported on the milestone?
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needs higher memory requirements like 512Mb, so only Miletone2 and in 2012..
(it took 1yr for milestone1, so thats easy to estimate from now+12months)

Dexter_nlb said:
needs higher memory requirements like 512Mb, so only Miletone2 and in 2012..
(it took 1yr for milestone1, so thats easy to estimate from now+12months)
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Is that really true? What would require higher memory than Froyo? I don't see anything in the features which would require 512MB..

Guys: let's focus on what is REALLY important from 2.3. We don't need all those features...I mean: we WOULD like to get them all but I think it's a hard challenge for developers (the upgraded kernel hasn't even been released for 2.2, I don't want a 2.3 with battery draining and kernel_issues just becuase of Motorola laziness...). I just need a 2.1 (which covers all the "basics" of what a smartphone MUST do) with some improvements from 2.3! I'll start with mine:
1) New Keyboard: I really want to try the new keyboard and think shouldn't be so difficult to port it to 2.1 (just a hope!)
2) Download manager: not a must-have but hey...would be useful!
3) New UI and "smoother" animations: I'm quite sure this is almost impossible to port..
4) Support for WebM: see above...
By the way maybe the whole gingerbread can run on 2.6.32 kernel! So a good porting would be ready when motorola releases the official 2.2 sbf. Am I correct?
EDIT: Look at these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AAFF9PN-WU&feature=channel
Youtube 2.0 is also available for 2.1! I can't notice any difference with 2.3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCgf8RW7B88&feature=channel
Newer streetview and Maps navigation are available on 2.1...No voice controls though!

Dexter_nlb said:
needs higher memory requirements like 512Mb, so only Miletone2 and in 2012..
(it took 1yr for milestone1, so thats easy to estimate from now+12months)
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And also (correct me if I'm wrong)
Probably some features like GPU accelleration in openGL 2.0 may be a little difficult to port over right?

mardurhack said:
3) New UI and "smoother" animations
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it's a sweet dream... but i would be awesome

@89luca89: I didn't see anywhere that 2.3 supports GPU acceleration! This would be AWSOME especially for the browser!! How have Opera's guys been able to enable hw acceleration on their browser? Do you think it would be also possible on custom browsers like Dolphin or is that a "Presto" (the Opera's rendering engine while Chrome's one is Webkit) feature? Thanks!
@razer54: Being sincere...I'd really like (read as NEED) a smoother browser than smoother animations...Launcher Pro is smooth enough for me! And menus scrolling is too! The only one who lacks smooth interaction (scrolling, pinch2zoom etc.) is the browser! But, as I wrote above, there could be the possibility to port Opera's hw acceleration on a browser like Dolphin (or the stock one being the source code public). Couldn't it?

I presume everyone has seen this:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
Heaps of the new improvements look awesome, improved responciveness, native audio control, new keyboard, dalivik garbage collector, native voip, updated video drivers - all this stuff would make lots of apps (including games!) much better on Android.
I really hope game devs start getting serious about Android with the approah of the Playstation phone and Android 2.3 available. I'm no expert but I assume while some things like the new keyboard may be possible to port back to 2.1 or 2.2 on milestone, we will never see the bulk of 2.3 on our phones.

Ballinor I almost forgot to ask if copy&paste can be ported from 2.3!!
EDIT: Ok I changed my mind...I NEED Gingerbread!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me that will be possible to install it on Milestone!

can someone port the new keyboard? there´s already a couple of leaked keyboards but they all appear small on our precious .... its like a hyper compact keyboard ....

Dexter_nlb said:
needs higher memory requirements like 512Mb, so only Miletone2 and in 2012..
(it took 1yr for milestone1, so thats easy to estimate from now+12months)
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I'm sorry but what you're saying is mostly a dull statement. I wouldn't expect this coming from you at all, seriously. You didn't even explained what would need more memory. Its clearly stated the most of the higher specs would be used for new Multimedia standards and gaming improvements (Concurrent garbage collector being one of them!).
It took a bit more then half of year for Milestone 1 to get unofficial 2.2, the biggest problem being unlocked boot loader.
This is the same thing as telling its impossible to get Froyo to G1. Officially, that is correct. Unofficially, Cyano and everyone in XDA and other communities are doing everything to keep G1 alive. And I can tell you, Froyo on G1 is working smooth and without problems.

greglord said:
I'm sorry but what you're saying is mostly a dull statement. I wouldn't expect this coming from you at all, seriously. You didn't even explained what would need more memory. Its clearly stated the most of the higher specs would be used for new Multimedia standards and gaming improvements (Concurrent garbage collector being one of them!).
It took a bit more then half of year for Milestone 1 to get unofficial 2.2, the biggest problem being unlocked boot loader.
This is the same thing as telling its impossible to get Froyo to G1. Officially, that is correct. Unofficially, Cyano and everyone in XDA and other communities are doing everything to keep G1 alive. And I can tell you, Froyo on G1 is working smooth and without problems.
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The 512mb of RAM is a statement from Google. They just want less fragmantation in android devices.
What that really means is it'll probably run on the Milestone if we didn't have that damn bootloader..
It'll probably be ported to the Droid.

It will be ported to Milestone too..

greglord said:
It will be ported to Milestone too..
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Yup,but without proper kernel

I hope so!!!
Unfortunately I'm not an expert in programming, but I'll give all my support for testing!
Milestone is too young do be abandoned, it is still an optimum phone in my opinion!

mardurhack said:
@89luca89: I didn't see anywhere that 2.3 supports GPU acceleration! This would be AWSOME especially for the browser!! How have Opera's guys been able to enable hw acceleration on their browser? Do you think it would be also possible on custom browsers like Dolphin or is that a "Presto" (the Opera's rendering engine while Chrome's one is Webkit) feature? Thanks!
@razer54: Being sincere...I'd really like (read as NEED) a smoother browser than smoother animations...Launcher Pro is smooth enough for me! And menus scrolling is too! The only one who lacks smooth interaction (scrolling, pinch2zoom etc.) is the browser! But, as I wrote above, there could be the possibility to port Opera's hw acceleration on a browser like Dolphin (or the stock one being the source code public). Couldn't it?
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you got a point, i wanted to speak about browsing experience when i wrote animation ^^

max_3000 said:
The 512mb of RAM is a statement from Google. They just want less fragmantation in android devices.
What that really means is it'll probably run on the Milestone if we didn't have that damn bootloader..
It'll probably be ported to the Droid.
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Can you please post a link where I can see such Google statement? Thanks.
(And to be clear, I'm not interested in links to the old rumors that have been denied and ridiculed directly by a google engineer a long time ago.)

mardurhack said:
Guys: let's focus on what is REALLY important from 2.3. We don't need all those features...I mean: we WOULD like to get them all but I think it's a hard challenge for developers (the upgraded kernel hasn't even been released for 2.2, I don't want a 2.3 with battery draining and kernel_issues just becuase of Motorola laziness...). I just need a 2.1 (which covers all the "basics" of what a smartphone MUST do) with some improvements from 2.3! I'll start with mine:
1) New Keyboard: I really want to try the new keyboard and think shouldn't be so difficult to port it to 2.1 (just a hope!)
2) Download manager: not a must-have but hey...would be useful!
3) New UI and "smoother" animations: I'm quite sure this is almost impossible to port..
4) Support for WebM: see above...
By the way maybe the whole gingerbread can run on 2.6.32 kernel! So a good porting would be ready when motorola releases the official 2.2 sbf. Am I correct?
EDIT: Look at these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AAFF9PN-WU&feature=channel
Youtube 2.0 is also available for 2.1! I can't notice any difference with 2.3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCgf8RW7B88&feature=channel
Newer streetview and Maps navigation are available on 2.1...No voice controls though!
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i agree...
obviously we won't get all the new implementations, but it would be nice to have some of them... the easier ones to port...

I think one of the most important think to port it"s the jit no ? if i remember well, the jit from froyo was ported to eclair, so the one from gingerbread can be ported to froyo no ?

[Q] The Future Of i9000 ?

The i9000 is a year old, (and still is the best android phone in most markets)
it came with android 2.1 , we got 2.2 , we will get 2.3 in , lets say about 1 month , wright when 2.4 will be released.
I think samsung will eventually release a 2.4 firmware maybe in june - july but then "ice cream" will be released
So what do you guys think , we will ever see "ice cream 3.x'' officially on the i9000 , or gingerbread will the the end of the line ?

Yes, i think we will, and if we dont, we will kick up a fuss and demand it from samsung lol
or we could just wait for someone to port it from another ROM, android hacking will never die !!!!

My guess is that 2.3, maybe with a patch or two, will be the last thing that Samsung does for the i9000. I don't think there is in their interest to support a phone older than 18 months, as they probably rely on statistics. And the statistics tells them that you and me probably have bought a new phone by then.

true i suppose.
If ice cream ever did come out for the SGS is probably wouldnt be for a while, and yea me and you probably would have a new phone, so we wouldnt be on the i9000 forums to find out if it was released.
but im happy with cyanogenMod, and as long as that always gets frequent updates, il stick to this til i get a new device

azzledazzle said:
Yes, i think we will, and if we dont, we will kick up a fuss and demand it from samsung lol
or we could just wait for someone to port it from another ROM, android hacking will never die !!!!
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Very True

Like any device the manufactures have to drop support from it at some point! I think we will see Android 2.3.3, which from ports does run smooth on this phone and then afterwards just the normal updates we see floating around for 2.2.1 etc..
Then again there are loads of adverts for the Galaxy S still on the TV so I suppose in reality we will just have to wait and see.

I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?

gbatman said:
I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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How could they?they aren't developers(afaik) they both need a rom as a base if sammy doesn't release one they can't mod it.
Since there is a cyanogenmod projekt for the sgs now we will propably get updates for a while because it is based in many parts on nexus s source.
So if you make the jump to cm you will propably (if they make it to the mainline) see ice cream or whatever the next updates are called
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I think it will...
At least it has the necessary hardware to run it!
I don't think samsung will give up on the phone that increased their market! I mean 10 million units is not exatly a couple of phones...
And at the end of the day they are nothing like LG Those sad faces are still wondering about 2.3 for their Optimus 2x

gbatman said:
I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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Its Not really Better just the graphik a little bit thats all
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I am beginnig to wonder if SGS really sucks that much compared to SGS2 or sensation maybe...
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Android 2.3.x is the last for Gingerbread going to be released for the i9000.
However, due to the large numbers of i9000 devices within the market, and still being sold, Samsung have no option but to release an upgrade to Ice-Cream Sandwich (Android 4.x.x).
There will be no 2.4 for Android, it goes straight to 4 (Ice-Cream Sandwich).
Because Android cannot sustain development for both 2.x.x and 3.x.x concurrently, it makes sense to release the "co-op" version for both smartphones and tablets.
Rumour has it, this version will be released end of October, first for Samsung Nexus Prime.
So November seems to be a good enough guess for the rest to follow suite.
Note: if you don't like waiting for upgrades in your country, and your device is already a year old, just install/flash a stock ROM released for a different country (closest to yours...check GSMA for technology standards if you're really worried). Also, if there is a big difference in GSMA standards, you can still flash a ROM of your choice and then use your current Modem, e.g. flash JVR update on your phone, then flash the modem for previous working version for your country.

I am from India and it's bleak in a way. The android bug hasn't really caught on here. We are severely crippled. We did not get an official Nexus. We got the Galaxy S II, the prices of GT9000 have dropped. But still no one goes for it. People here are still caught up in the iphone bug. I think Samsung will pull the plug soon to make their other phones sell.
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Will love if i get ice cream sandwhich update
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gaspernemec said:
I am beginnig to wonder if SGS really sucks that much compared to SGS2 or sensation maybe...
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HTC phones blow for battery life and signal. (Take it from someone who has been down that road many times with different OS)
THE SGS2 is zippier with the processor and RAM, but goes through the battery faster.
Your best bet is really one of two options:
Keep the SGS and grab a Samsung Armani battery. Its 1650mah (same physical size as stock) which makes up for any custom fast kernal battery loss versus stock.
Or
Get a Motorola Atrix which has the power of the SGS2 minus the screen but at least has the battery.
Unless you can wait a little while longer and see the ICS phones coming this fall for even more options...
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[App]Netflix for 2.2 Devices

Got this from droidlife and I havent tested it yet since im on 2.3 but wanted the fam to have a crack at it and see if it works or not
http://www.mediafire.com/?4xwncz7doz475tj
We just threw up a post about the latest Netflix update which brought support to the original DROID, but what we failed to originally realize is that the update removed the device check which means in theory, that it should be able to work on all phones. Well, guess what? I loaded it up on my DROIDX2 (which is “not” supported) and it installed just fine and is now streaming a video. I’m loading it up on other devices too, but wanted to make sure you all knew. Feel free to grab it below and install – let us know how it goes!
*Note – this is not a hacked version. This is 100% the market version.
Update: Works on Thunderbolt (rooted 2.3), DROIDX2, DROIDX (2.3), and Xperia PLAY.
Update 2: No XOOM support though.
Update 3: Looks like it’s pretty hit or miss. Definitely sounding like it’s not working on stock Thunderbolt which is a damn shame.
Cheers Brandon!
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...ice-check-should-work-on-all-android-devices/

It didn't work for me... It goes to login screen and then goes back to home screen when trying to login dang I may have to jump to EE03 finally..

Doubt that will work or anything for that matter because they have been trying to get it to work on many devices on the main Android forums of XDA and not many people are having luck.
Seems like we'll just be waiting for now until Netflix releases something. They did just add...
LG Revolution, Motorola Droid and Casio G'zOne Commando
But no Epic 4G yet

For snapdragon 2.2 devices
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?

quickstang said:
Doubt that will work or anything for that matter because they have been trying to get it to work on many devices on the main Android forums of XDA and not many people are having luck.
Seems like we'll just be waiting for now until Netflix releases something. They did just add...
LG Revolution, Motorola Droid and Casio G'zOne Commando
But no Epic 4G yet
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gotta love verizon huh lol

It is not the epic 4g, it is hummingbird based devices on the 2.2 kernal. Our cm7 isnt built on gingerbread source. It is still on 2.2.1 source. The reason that you need 2.3 because it has better hardware support for the hummingbird processor due to the fist flagship device to have a hummingbird was on 2.3 release not 2.2 release. Also, our software DRM that Samsung gave us in our 2.1 and 2.2 based ROMs sucks/is unable to support Netflix web streaming.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?

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It is not the epic 4g, it is hummingbird based devices on the 2.2 kernal. Our cm7 isnt built on gingerbread source. It is still on 2.2.1 source. The reason that you need 2.3 because it has better hardware support for the hummingbird processor due to the fist flagship device to have a hummingbird was on 2.3 release not 2.2 release. Also, our software DRM that Samsung gave us in our 2.1 and 2.2 based ROMs sucks/is unable to support Netflix web streaming.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?
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So basically we need to get new a new phone already huh? lol

I am just thinking.
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So basically we need to get new a new phone already huh? lol
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So what would happen if we took the DRM from the leaked gingerbread rom and placed it into a froyo rom? Do you think netflix would work. I am took afraid of trying this out myself for fear of reflashing my entire rom and reconfiguring all my setting again.

marcusant said:
It is not the epic 4g, it is hummingbird based devices on the 2.2 kernal. Our cm7 isnt built on gingerbread source. It is still on 2.2.1 source. The reason that you need 2.3 because it has better hardware support for the hummingbird processor due to the fist flagship device to have a hummingbird was on 2.3 release not 2.2 release. Also, our software DRM that Samsung gave us in our 2.1 and 2.2 based ROMs sucks/is unable to support Netflix web streaming.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?
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Thanks for the info.....was'nt aware that 2.3 was built around the Hummingbird processor. Damn....that should really give our Epic's a kick in the ass once it's official. Combined with some overclocked kernels and EXT4, maybe then we will see this phone's full potential.......it only took 8 monthes

jamice4u said:
So what would happen if we took the DRM from the leaked gingerbread rom and placed it into a froyo rom? Do you think netflix would work. I am took afraid of trying this out myself for fear of reflashing my entire rom and reconfiguring all my setting again.
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No, we need the hummingburd enhancements in the kernal.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?

netflix on syndicate from epic
i am currently running the syndicate rom on my epic 4g. i downloaded the app that meter 5 posted and updated it and it now works, maybe it might work on the stock rom. I know it is reported to work on the gingerbread rom but apparently it works on mine as well.

Just downloaded Netflix today from the Android Market. Running Bonsai 4.1.1 and I'm already streaming! Woot!

quickstang said:
Doubt that will work or anything for that matter because they have been trying to get it to work on many devices on the main Android forums of XDA and not many people are having luck.
Seems like we'll just be waiting for now until Netflix releases something. They did just add...
LG Revolution, Motorola Droid and Casio G'zOne Commando
But no Epic 4G yet
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The Commando?! A guy in my class at Boeing has one of those...slowest damn phone ever! That think reminds me of my Treos when they were still stock, yet it gets NetFlix?

elbo450 said:
Just downloaded Netflix today from the Android Market. Running Bonsai 4.1.1 and I'm already streaming! Woot!
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Ignore my post above...I just downloaded it from the Market and it's working as well. Giggity! Between TV.com, Droid Streamer and now NetFlix, I'm set

m5james said:
Ignore my post above...I just downloaded it from the Market and it's working as well. Giggity! Between TV.com, Droid Streamer and now NetFlix, I'm set
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There's themed versions already, too.