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Looking for a new laptop...Suggestions?

Well, the MacBook Pro is on eBay, and I'm in need of a replacement. Not that there is anything wrong with it, I'm just done with Apple.
Anywho, I'm in the market for a reliable, fast, and new computer (PC, no mac )
The minimum specs I'm looking for:
* Intel i5 or i7
* At LEAST 4 gigs of RAM
* Less than 2 inches thick
* At least a 15" screen
I'm also open to suggestions, so let me know.
Do you guys have any personal preferences/experiences? Best place to buy?

Sony Vaio (of some kind) or..
Alienware Laptop?
Or Dell?
Iam a dell fan even though i haven't bought any of their equipment.
Try this: http://laptoplogic.com/laptop-finder/advanced

Any price range?
by the MacBook pro I'm guessing 800 1000 is close?

I bought a Msi a6200 at electronic express for $549 on no tax weekend here. Core i5 430m, 4gb ddr3, 500 gb hdd, Bluetooth, wireless n card, and HDMI out. I'm loving it. Asus laptops are also nice.
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Thanks for the link flyboy.
My family has had some bad experiences with dell in the past. I used to love their commercials though lol. "DUDE, you're gettin' a DELL!"
Alienware is definitely one of my prospects...Haven't really seen any that I would consider "thin"...But I'm used to the mac of course lol.
@Max I was just thinking that I should have posted a price range. Anything from $800- ~$1100 (US)

+1 vote on sony vaio , looks nice also it will get u laid
git on it
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...tegoryId=16154&N=4294966502&Name=VAIO+Laptops

souljaboy said:
+1 vote on sony vaio , looks nice also it will get u laid
git on it
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...tegoryId=16154&N=4294966502&Name=VAIO+Laptops
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Hahahaha +1
I like that..."Sony Style"...lol

The advanced laptop finder gives me no results, with numerous different inputs lol. Even when I just picked the brands and "not important" on everything else. Odd.

wdfowty said:
@Max I was just thinking that I should have posted a price range. Anything from $800- ~$1100 (US)
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What a guess !!!!!! if your looking for thin all I can thinkmof is an MBA but not what your wanting so yeah I reckon the vaio

Not necessarily "thin", just something thinner than two inches that I can lug around school without breaking my back, or backpack.

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Not necessarily "thin", just something thinner than two inches that I can lug around school without breaking my back, or backpack.
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Ah okay

i always have noticed alienware laptops are very thick

Yep. I don't think an alienware is really worth it unless it's a desktop anyways. Some of em look really sick though.

wdfowty said:
Yep. I don't think an alienware is really worth it unless it's a desktop anyways. Some of em look really sick though.
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I agree, the desktops look amazing!!
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Sony vaio laptop are cheaply made, not good enough if your a student.
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htc fan89 said:
Sony vaio laptop are cheaply made, not good enough if your a student.
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if by student u mean a pussi who gets beaten up every afternoon with the notebook in his backpack ... ur maybe rite , ud need a toughbook ...
but if ur just calling a sony cheaply made ... man either uve never had an asus/compaq/fujitsu/(insert 80% of other brands here) or u work for them

souljaboy said:
if by student u mean a pussi who gets beaten up every afternoon with the notebook in his backpack ... ur maybe rite , ud need a toughbook ...
but if ur just calling a sony cheaply made ... man either uve never had an asus/compaq/fujitsu/(insert 80% of other brands here) or u work for them
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Which viao would you suggest?
htc fan89 said:
I'm still using my first laptop which is an Sony vaio its like a desktop. My newer laptop broke which is also an vaio.
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lol

You cant disagree that this one looks lush (The gold one) but shame it's only got an 11" screen
looking for me too now realised mine is just too slow i just got a much lower price range though

My old Sony laptop was more better built than my new one, so I mean the new vaio seem not as solid as before ones.
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You cant disagree that this one looks lush (The gold one) but shame it's only got an 11" screen p
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i cant recommend one in particular its up to ur screen size and price preferences

Are Alienware laptops worth the money?

Ive been considering getting one. I think they look really cool. Anybody have any experience with them? Or does anyone suggest something comparable?

Alienware is good.. but overpriced. IMO I wanted a nice mobo gaming device and i settled with the Lenovo Y550 ($600) about 2 years ago and it has held up fine it still able to play some of the newer games but not on high though. Gets the job done.
Same goes for all technology once you purchase something there is already something better out there for the $.
Or you can wait till thanksgiving area. Thats when they really start rolling out the good deals ( not only because of BF) Check slickdeals often they have some nicely priced gaming laptops.

Alienware laptops are overpriced and a battery drainer (the dual graphics one), but on some models you can get a high quality gaming with excellent battery power.
And they're not really overpriced, considering the hardware and production costs needed to build a SINGLE machine. I choose the upcoming MSI laptop. it's cheap
choose wisely
and thank me. be grateful.

GreggoryD502 said:
Ive been considering getting one. I think they look really cool. Anybody have any experience with them? Or does anyone suggest something comparable?
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If you're on a budget, don't bother. Gaming notebooks are never worth the money coz you can pour so much more into a PC and get much better specs.
Also, here's my favourite laptop site comparing graphics cards. Just click into the card name and then you scroll to the bottom to see what laptop has that GPU. Their review are VERY thorough.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html

sakai4eva said:
If you're on a budget, don't bother. Gaming notebooks are never worth the money coz you can pour so much more into a PC and get much better specs.
Also, here's my favourite laptop site comparing graphics cards. Just click into the card name and then you scroll to the bottom to see what laptop has that GPU. Their review are VERY thorough.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html
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alienware are customizable too.

hiu115 said:
alienware are customizable too.
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I was more talking about cost/benefit ratios than customizability. Simple example is that my single GPU usually beats an SLI/xfire setup on a notebook, using lower costs.
Get that straight.

sakai4eva said:
I was more talking about cost/benefit ratios than customizability. Simple example is that my single GPU usually beats an SLI/xfire setup on a notebook, using lower costs.
Get that straight.
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ok then sorry

sakai4eva said:
I was more talking about cost/benefit ratios than customizability. Simple example is that my single GPU usually beats an SLI/xfire setup on a notebook, using lower costs.
Get that straight.
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Agreed. Say if you buy a 1,000 dollar gaming laptop you can probably get the same/better specs for probably half the price. Plus if you have a desktop you can always upgrade while laptops its pretty pricey.

Whatever you end up getting, I strongly suggest actually trying one out in person.
Get a feel for the keyboard, and don't judge screen resolutions/picture quality by reviews or opinions from other forum members (not that they don't provide useful information). Audition the laptop you intend on purchasing. That's the only way you'll see which screen is easiest on your eye's. I made the mistake of not doing this. Never again.

This.The Razer Blade.
· 2.8GHz Intel® Core™ i7 2640M Processor
· 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory
· 17.3" LED Backlit Display (1920x1080)
· NVIDIA GeForce® GT 555M with NVIDIA® Optimus™ Technology 2GB Dedicated GDDR5 Video Memory
· Built-in HD Webcam
· Integrated 60Wh Battery
· 320GB 7200rpm SATA HDD
· Wireless Network 802.11 b/g/n Compatible
· 16.81" (Width) x 10.9" (Depth) x 0.88" (Height); 6.97lbs (Weight)
Ohh, i forgot.. Price.. $2800
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BazookaAce said:
This.The Razer Blade.
· 2.8GHz Intel® Core™ i7 2640M Processor
· 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory
· 17.3" LED Backlit Display (1920x1080)
· NVIDIA GeForce® GT 555M with NVIDIA® Optimus™ Technology 2GB Dedicated GDDR5 Video Memory
· Built-in HD Webcam
· Integrated 60Wh Battery
· 320GB 7200rpm SATA HDD
· Wireless Network 802.11 b/g/n Compatible
· 16.81" (Width) x 10.9" (Depth) x 0.88" (Height); 6.97lbs (Weight)
Ohh, i forgot.. Price.. $2800
good laptop, with it's weight and thickness makes it a recommended one. but those price, and no DVD-RW player, touchpad not for left-handed, makes it not comparable to the Alienware...
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Tssspsss! I would pick this over Alienware any day. But i'm not a gamer, so it's a no go for me either way.

hiu115 said:
BazookaAce said:
This.The Razer Blade.
· 2.8GHz Intel® Core™ i7 2640M Processor
· 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory
· 17.3" LED Backlit Display (1920x1080)
· NVIDIA GeForce® GT 555M with NVIDIA® Optimus™ Technology 2GB Dedicated GDDR5 Video Memory
· Built-in HD Webcam
· Integrated 60Wh Battery
· 320GB 7200rpm SATA HDD
· Wireless Network 802.11 b/g/n Compatible
· 16.81" (Width) x 10.9" (Depth) x 0.88" (Height); 6.97lbs (Weight)
Ohh, i forgot.. Price.. $2800
good laptop, with it's weight and thickness makes it a recommended one. but those price, and no DVD-RW player, touchpad not for left-handed, makes it not comparable to the Alienware...
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Was that ever released? Forgive me if it was, but I thought that was vaporware ?!?!
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Thanks for all the replies everybody. I'm going to do some research on them.

JDMpire said:
hiu115 said:
Was that ever released? Forgive me if it was, but I thought that was vaporware ?!?!
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It will be available in the fourth quarter of this year. Here's the official site for it.
http://www.razerzone.com/blade
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JDMpire said:
It will be available in the fourth quarter of this year. Here's the official site for it.
http://www.razerzone.com/blade
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How much ?
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$2800, so sell your car, sell your wife, cuz they're stealin' everythang out here.

No. Please do some minimal learning in order to build your own and get better performance at 1/3 the cost.

Sager NP5165 is what I would reccomend. Similar specs to the MX14 at only near 1000 dollars. Google it and buy from xoticpc. they seem to have good prices and support.

I like my Asus G73jh I play wow every day on it and all my surfing.1283.00 @ bestbuy out the door

Advice for a laptop

Hey guys! So I'm trying to look for a good laptop, but I'm on a tight budget right now. I just want to get the best laptop out of my money which is $700. I'm not really expert when it comes to buying computers.
I prefer 14" screen because I'm going to bring it everyday to school, so portability is really important. I might do a little gaming on it but I'm going to use it mostly for programming.
Here is an HP laptop that I've seen with good reviews. It has an I5 processor which I believe is good, and it also has 6GB of ram. But what about the graphics?
http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-d...ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1319610557&sr=1-1
This one is from Samsung's website, it's a little more expensive.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP300V4A-A02US
Any other suggestions?

Noooo! Not the pavilon! Dx They NEVER agree with Linux. Or at least my friend's laptop did.
With $700 you could get an awfully decent laptop. I suggest searching new egg for some good deals.
Edit: That Samsung is kinda sexy...I would read into it and see what people think. Also, I have a gateway and it works fine for all my computer related coding needs! And school stuff!
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No hp laptops!!!!!
i do like there laptops but recently they are stop supporting them... i personally not sure about a samsung... i would go with a dell...

Ok I'll remove HP from my options. I'll look at dell laptops right now.

This one I think is the best I can get but it's almost $800 if I want it to be intel I5.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-n411z/pd?p=inspiron-n411z&ref=aZ1T

The best place to check would definitely be newegg, they have such a huge selection and you can narrow it down to exactly what you want then find the best prices and read the reviews.
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Samsung has made very nice laptops there, you should take look at these. I've had very good memories with my Samsung laptops.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP300V4A-A02US

try one of BenQ's laptops. I have an S46 with Win7 HP 32-bit, i3 350, 2GB RAM, and Nvidia Geforce 310M. bought it for $610.
http://www.warungnotebook.com/products/i.html?sku=182&type=BENQ S46-XE01
NB : Specs on the left

hiu115 said:
try one of BenQ's laptops. I have an S46 with Win7 HP 32-bit, i3 350, 2GB RAM, and Nvidia Geforce 310M. bought it for $610.
http://www.warungnotebook.com/products/i.html?sku=182&type=BENQ S46-XE01
NB : Specs on the left
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Tempting. How's it?
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iynfynity said:
Tempting. How's it?
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I got it for $250. They sell for $600 I think. Try and buy one, great little laptop. I HIGHLY recommend it.
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I_am_Error said:
I got it for $250. They sell for $600 I think. Try and buy one, great little laptop. I HIGHLY recommend it.
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I'll buy it for $300?
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iynfynity said:
I'll buy it for $300?
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You can bite me, no offense! This is my baby. The only reason I got it so cheap is because I have connects
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Haha just kidding.
Do you think choosing i5 over i3 will be worth the money? I might not play games anyway.

iynfynity said:
Haha just kidding.
Do you think choosing i5 over i3 will be worth the money? I might not play games anyway.
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Honesty, if you're not gaming on it I would go for the most economical choice.
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i don't like HP, because my brother who bought one hp which is very bad.
however, i think Android 2.2 is ok. and it's very popular now.
http://www.google.com/goods_c3BlY19pZAk2Njgz.html
his is my laptop which i bought only USD$ 119.99. i think it's very practically useful.

fansile said:
i don't like HP, because my brother who bought one hp which is very bad.
however, i think Android 2.2 is ok. and it's very popular now.
http://www.google.com/goods_c3BlY19pZAk2Njgz.html
his is my laptop which i bought only USD$ 119.99. i think it's very practically useful.
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I don't know about that.

fansile said:
i don't like HP, because my brother who bought one hp which is very bad.
however, i think Android 2.2 is ok. and it's very popular now.
http://www.google.com/goods_c3BlY19pZAk2Njgz.html
his is my laptop which i bought only USD$ 119.99. i think it's very practically useful.
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he asked for a laptop that can handle everything, not a UMPC that can't even do programming and gaming.
Still, your choice is tempting. I might even buy one for my brother
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for the S46 i bought it here (Jakarta) for $500 at a retail store. not $610. thank you.

hiu115 said:
he asked for a laptop that can handle everything, not a UMPC that can't even do programming and gaming.
Still, your choice is tempting. I might even buy one for my brother
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for the S46 i bought it here (Jakarta) for $500 at a retail store. not $610. thank you.
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yep, brother.
actually, it is also can gaming. just single games. while, it's much cheaper now. i think it's very convenient.

Best Buy has HP's and Asus laptops for about $700 that will meet your needs.
You just have to catch them on sale. Check the Sunday flyer's often.

iynfynity said:
Hey guys! So I'm trying to look for a good laptop, but I'm on a tight budget right now. I just want to get the best laptop out of my money which is $700. I'm not really expert when it comes to buying computers.
I prefer 14" screen because I'm going to bring it everyday to school, so portability is really important. I might do a little gaming on it but I'm going to use it mostly for programming.
Here is an HP laptop that I've seen with good reviews. It has an I5 processor which I believe is good, and it also has 6GB of ram. But what about the graphics?
http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-d...ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1319610557&sr=1-1
This one is from Samsung's website, it's a little more expensive.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP300V4A-A02US
Any other suggestions?
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Whatever you do, get an HP laptop. They are the best. My extensive experience has shown that. I've had more trouble with Acer, Toshiba and others than I ever had with HP laptops. Right now I'm up to my 3rd HP laptop. My first one was a WinXP, which still is usable but need a new power socket. Number 2 is a Vista, which I am writing this on and number 3 is my newest Win7, which I reserve for coffee and breakfast in the morning at the table.

Show Us Your Rig....

On a forum I used to frequent back in my tech support days we had a thread called "Show us yer Rig"......
I'll start with my present one...
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An aging P4 3.2Ghz, Asus motherboard, XFX 9500GT, couple Tb drives, Win7 & Ubuntu 12.04 (Pangolin AFAIK) dual boot.
Plus, when I'm at home my A500 has a home on the desk as an aWARemote tool for Winamp etc...
Dont mind the mess, its the only place in the house I'm 'allowed' to be messy (damn these wifey characters!).
Direct full size image links...
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By all means say my computer sucks:
HP pavilion a6235
AMD x64 dual core @2GHz
2 GB RAM
Nvidia geeforce something
Windows 8
Screen: Samsung syncmaster p2370HD
Additional details when i get better access to my computer tomorrow.
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There is a thread on this already. I looked for it but got bored. But it is here.

Is there? Ah well theres two now unless someone wants to link me there... I like your rig LordManhattan..... Is that quad core?

stressfreesoul said:
Is there? Ah well theres two now unless someone wants to link me there... I like your rig LordManhattan..... Is that quad core?
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You're more showing pics of your desk rather than your PC
So here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554174&highlight=show+us+your+desk

Thanks! That's Octocore! I can run Minecraft on full settings and explode things in-game without any lag

boborone said:
There is a thread on this already. I looked for it but got bored. But it is here.
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Yes there is, but I tried and failed. I can't find it. If anyone finds it then a link here would be great, but until then it's a valid thread.
And to stay on-topic (which pains me to do so), you REALLY don't want to know my PC setup! Seriously

Show it! Is it a notebook or something like that? If so, don't be embarrassed, the only thing i have is a crappy laptop, but i don't need anything else. I don't play games, so i don't need a lot of power. SHOW IT, or tell us what you have

Lulz^^
This is why I love forums. I only use my desktop as a permanent media server, which it does just fine...
I posted in the other thread too

LordManhattan said:
Show it! Is it a notebook or something like that? If so, don't be embarrassed, the only thing i have is a crappy laptop, but i don't need anything else. I don't play games, so i don't need a lot of power. SHOW IT, or tell us what you have
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Since you asked so nicely
It's an "e-machine" custom built thing with a dual core 2.4GHz CPU (of some make or other - I think it's an AMD) and 4GB of RAM. I pretty much use it for browsing, DLNA streaming, software development and writing music. It doesn't need massive specs as I don't game on it that much. I've got a couple of Star Wars games, but they happily run at decent res as they're years old.
It suits my needs, but is by no means a powerhouse. I'm a console gamer, but if I wasn't then my PC would be pimped to the max as I'd game on that instead. I needs my games!

Same here, got a 360 but dont bother with that all the time either. Nice media extender though...

Thanks! Now, was that so hard? It's still better than my laptop. I have a Compaq Presario CQ62 with 2GB RAM. Not sure on the rest of the specs, but it's not fast at all. But it's OK for doing daily tasks like reading news and streaming/downloading things. If i want to game i'll power up the good ol' PS3.

Some of you have already seen these, but since it applies, here's my PC. I call her Cocaine.
I hope you like white haha.
And a cellphone pic to show s different color light behind the mobo.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Some of you have already seen these, but since it applies, here's my PC. I call her Cocaine.
I hope you like white haha.
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Thats an uber rig. I'm jealous. Doesnt often happen.... My old rig was nice too but I've lost the funding to keep up with the tech curve these days....
Whats the spec on that beast?

stressfreesoul said:
Thats an uber rig. I'm jealous. Doesnt often happen.... My old rig was nice too but I've lost the funding to keep up with the tech curve these days....
Whats the spec on that beast?
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Thanks, glad you like!
Here goes:
Lian Li a05n case
Asus p8p67 pro motherboard
Intel i7 2600k CPU clocked at 4.7ghz
Antec 620 liquid cooler
Pny gtx550ti gfx
Lite on bluray burner/reader
Nzxt sentry2 fan controller
Corsair 8gb xms3 memory
Crucial M4 64gb ssd
2x wd caviar blue hdd
Corsair tx650 psu
I think that's it haha
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Thanks, glad you like!
Here goes:
Lian Li a05n case
Asus p8p67 pro motherboard
Intel i7 2600k CPU clocked at 4.7ghz
Antec 620 liquid cooler
Pny gtx550ti gfx
Lite on bluray burner/reader
Nzxt sentry2 fan controller
Corsair 8gb xms3 memory
Crucial M4 64gb ssd
2x wd caviar blue hdd
Corsair tx650 psu
I think that's it haha
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U spent how much building that?
I love how it looks, so clean

davidrules7778 said:
U spent how much building that?
I love how it looks, so clean
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Thanks! Around $1500
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Wish I could fill the screen, I need a bigger room lol

cant decide which win7 tab to get...

before you say it, yes i know win7 isnt a good tablet os. i know. i dont care i still want one. lol.
anyway here is what im looking at:
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my arguments for gigabyte:
much faster cpu (atom equivalent of an i3)
standard 2.5" hdd allows more and cheaper upgrade options (hybrid hdd anyone?)
dual usb with one superspeed
mouse pad, mouse buttons and scroll buttons make it much easier to navagate freely, also certain combos will send certain commands like C+A+D
looks really sexy, pretty much like the hp slate
thoughts: if it had atleast 720p resolution and atleast dx10 supported gpu id be all over this thing
summary: has ehh hardware compared to msi but ease of use seems exponentially better​my arguments for msi:
slightly cheaper
ips display at 720p+ (you sexy beast)
lower tdp cpu
radeon 6 series gpu with dx11 absolutely OBLITERATES any atom gma (the ability to do some light gaming like bejeweled and heavy weapon would be nice, at more than 15 fps would be even better)
double the ram at a higher data rate
msata insures low power consumption
dual cameras
gps (cuz why not)
slightly bigger battery
dedicated C+A+D button can be pretty useful
tpm security module
thoughts: if i could find a better cpu to upgrade to i could live with everything else and would buy this thing in a heartbeat but lack of mouse controls, super slow cpu and lack of i/o ports are a real turn off
summary: has some fairly impressive hardware for a tablet, but the ease of use seems lacking compared to the gigabyte​

I can see where this will end up, so ib4l

ha ha ha! way to be productive bro.

Some people here judge everyone by their own standards

yeah... just go ahead and delete the thread im sure everyone is gonna bypass it anyway

m1l4droid said:
I'd say wait for surface. It's worth the wait. Even I'm ditching Android as a tablet OS for that device.
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^^^ that.
Unless there's a specific reason for wanting W7 on it (maybe you just want it now, rather than waiting), go for W8 - looks much better.

daktah said:
yeah... just go ahead and delete the thread im sure everyone is gonna bypass it anyway
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I'll close it if you really want me to, but not everyone in here's a troll. Some will actually read your post and answer constructively.

Archer said:
^^^ that.
Unless there's a specific reason for wanting W7 on it (maybe you just want it now, rather than waiting), go for W8 - looks much better.
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i know i probably should but im not looking to spend a ton of money on this thing as i already have a $2300-something sager gaming rig (the one good thing about deploying: the redonk amount of cash you make). i just wanted this as a small cheap portable solution.and plus i can jusp upgrade when w8 is released if i wanted.
Archer said:
I'll close it if you really want me to, but not everyone in here's a troll. Some will actually read your post and answer constructively.
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oh yes i know ive been here since i found the place back when the og evo came out so i know that people can be really helpful... when it comes to phones. other things tend to be not so much. atleast in my experience.

I had no intention of being a troll - it was early in the morning here, I briefly skimmed the OP and had visions of it going exactly the same way the recent Mac thread has gone, turning into a haters vs fanboys outing.
To be honest, I would also recommend waiting for one of the 'Surface' tablets running Windows 8. 7 just isn't designed for tablets and is still really difficult to utilise without a keyboard - I speak from experience as I am an EPoS engineer by trade and spend half my life using both XP & Win 7 based touch-screen PC systems in my job.
I have played with 8 and it just looks much better designed and far more ideal for the Tablet market.

The arm version of the surface would have a processor that is similar to those of android tablets and the ipad right now. You wont be able to run any current windows programs on it. However the pro version of the surface should run older windows programs, in addition to the metro apps. The pro version will most likely be a bit pricey though.

yosterwp said:
The arm version of the surface would have a processor that is similar to those of android tablets and the ipad right now. You wont be able to run any current windows programs on it. However the pro version of the surface should run older windows programs, in addition to the metro apps. The pro version will most likely be a bit pricey though.
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Yes I just looked it up and saw that and that is my problem with new Surface machines. RT is supposed to start out at $600 but basically is a glorified WinMob/WinPhone, and since its ARM it will most likely use SOCs which means no CPU or RAM expansion options. On the other hand 8/Pro will be fully compatible with everything and use standard mobile components, but starting at $1000+ is way out of my price range. Again, I have an expensive ass laptop for the power computing area of my life, I just wanted this as a thing that is more mobile and just to mess around with it. And as far as the keyboard thing, SimonTS, a $15 generic mini USB keyboard case from Amazon can easily solve that problem.
I guess when I end up being able to buy something Ill go for the Gigabyte because of the body, ports, and the couple of accessories offered by Gigabyte compared to the... nothing that MSI offers (that Im aware of at least). I bet I can replace the screen on it too hopefully.