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[Q] Gorilla Glass = who said its unscratchable!?

Hey y'all
i have an at&t Samsung Captivate,
its really a great phone,i also use an Samsung Wave which has the same
Spec and the same glass.
i have the Captivate for 2 days and allready have scratches,really tiny one's.
i used the Samsung Wave for 6 month's and dont have 1 scratch at all!
how can it be?? the same glass (the Wave's glass feel's much more thicker then the Captivate's glass)

buy a cheap screen protector on ebay if you do care ...

I don't think that anyone said it was 'unscratchable'. If they did, they don't know what they were talking about, I mean Corning doesn't even claim that:
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/characteristics
It is more resistant to large scratches and pitting because it's produced more like a ceramic composite than soda glass.
Little scratches won't impact functionality, but I'm surprised people don't use cases and screen protectors these days. I have a full body ZAGG AND an Otterbox Commuter on mine. I find even the silicone cases can rub the finish off of phones a little bit.

The thickness of the glass won't affect how well it resists scratching. It should help prevent it from cracking though.
GUARDIANBD said:
(the Wave's glass feel's much more thicker then the Captivate's glass)
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I beat the living crap out of my phone when its in my pocket (change, keys, etc..) and my screen is fine. You putting it in your pocket with sand paper or something?
And I agree this thing is a bit slippery if it doesn't have a case on it.. but the one I had was too bulky.

I don't have a screen protector, I don't have a case. Had a screen protector, it was alright, but I removed it; prefer the feel of the naked glass. I would not even consider destroying the sleekness of my phone by putting it in some gross case.
I have a pocket that's dedicated to my phone. I don't drop it. I clean the screen with a fog of breath on the left shoulder of whatever sweatshirt I'm wearing. It has no scratches and is pure as hell.
My general theory is that if you don't want to treat your phone well and want it jangling around in backpacks, laptop cases and/or and pockets full of junk, by all means cover it up. Otherwise, treat it well and you won't have to worry.

just orderd ZAGG screen protector (10$) and Otterbox (13$) for the Captivate via Ebay
hope it works...

GUARDIANBD said:
just orderd ZAGG screen protector (10$) and Otterbox (13$) for the Captivate via Ebay
hope it works...
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what were you doing to that phone, had mine for a long time and the screen is still in mint condition, and i cant stand screen protectors, so its a good thing this screen is tough

ballz0iron said:
what were you doing to that phone, had mine for a long time and the screen is still in mint condition, and i cant stand screen protectors, so its a good thing this screen is tough
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nothing...just sitting in my pocket without any sharp thingys :\

I have had 2 captivates. One with a full Zagg which covers every inch of the phone with clear plastic of some kind, and just the screen protector on the other.
I have ORD (Obsessive Romming Disease and can be found on this site if you need to admit your disorder, lmao) and the full skin started peeling off because I was taking it out of my case so much. The screen protector itself is not completely smooth or very slick, but it seems that small scratches seem to repair themselves. I am a pipefitter so that should tell you how rough I am on phones hanging on my pocket everyday. weld splatter, dust, dirt, scrapes, rolled over on, so it must be a tough phone. I had to replace the other one because of the random shutdown issue of Captivates made before November.
My Captivate is so fast I need a seatbelt!!!
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How reliable is the gorrila glass?

Hey guys, I just took my screen protector off today because it was getting dirty. But im wondering, can I really just go without the screen protector? How reliable is the gorrilla glass on this thing? I wonder if Rogers even put gorilla glass on the captivate phones. Anyway, what are peoples experiences without using a screen protecotr?

I have never had an issue other than fingerprints.
I am careful though and do not put it in a pocket with anything metal.

i was wondering the same thing a while back then i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912515
Lots of people sharing their experience.
I always use a screen protector because I know one day I will get rid of this phone and I want it looking perfect. The gorilla glass will scratch.

No protection on my cappy. Been in my pocket with keys. Looks brand new.
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Nelimungous said:
No protection on my cappy. Been in my pocket with keys. Looks brand new.
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Lol i dont get it, people are saying they do get screatchs from keys and some people dont. Anyway somehow I reached into my desk and discovered I had saved 2 extra screen protectors.....so i guess im gonna use them anyway.

I've dropped my phone and had it in my pocket with keys and coins. Just a cleaning with a cloth to clear finer prints and smudges and the screen looks brand new.
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After almost 14 months use including dropping it on pavement several times (always find your phone before you get out of your truck ), throwing it in my front pocket with keys, etc., I have two or three tiny scratches that you have to look for.
Pretty impressed with the durability but I also consciously avoid doing the previously mentioned "oops" actions.

Never have used a screen protector, throw it into my pocket - "usually" without keys or coins. My screen looks the same as the day I brought it home - wonderful stuff this gorilla glass.
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i have used the generic screen protectors, that are super cheap but dont cover the entire front of the screen just fits over the display area, i took that off a few days ago cause i realized the ares not covered (the top and bottom) are completely new looking. finger prints and smudges a a P.I.T.A. but the glass feels SOOO smooth compared to the protector...
btw this is a question...they usually go in the Q&A section....

I took scissors to my screen.. Pretty good, too.. Scratched that thing, and even heard some 'scratching' 'oh no, I musta scratched it' sounds while doing it.. It came out completely clean.
I have also dropped it from about 6 feet, having it land on a corner.. and all it did was put a dent in the corner.. (This happened a couple of times)
This phone is almost indestructible.

No screen protecter here and has been threw some crap and.looks.brand new...my sis had one but in my own opionion it took away from the badass display
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Scratch resistant not scratch proof.

jack man said:
i was wondering the same thing a while back then i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912515
Lots of people sharing their experience.
I always use a screen protector because I know one day I will get rid of this phone and I want it looking perfect. The gorilla glass will scratch.
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That OP is the man.
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I stopped using screen protectors on my cappy almost a year ago
I have one SLIGHT scratch that you really have to look for.
Don't set it on table tops screen faced down(that's just dumb)
Make it a rule of thumb to keep your phone in a pocket for itself with nothing else in it
Just take care of it, the rest takes care of itself.

I've had mine almost a year without a protector and it looks brand new. And I'm kinda hard on my phones.

Almost been a year now with no screen protector just some surface scratches but nothing major. As for screen protectors go i hate them. They collect dust and scratch super easily well worth it if you dont have a phone with gorilla glass but not worth it with the captivate.
Just wish they had made the body out of something else because it scratches real easy but a simple $1 case fixed that

Can't stand screen protectors. Have had no scratches yet. I work construction often digging trenches, and have pulled my phone our of my pocket that was full of sand and rocks. Still looks brand new.
I do use a body glove case because without it, I have a hard time holding the phone
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Mine's naked too and it looks brand new. But there are scratches nevertheless. Micro ones that most lighting doesn't seem to reveal. It's weird but here in the office, I can't see any scratches at all. Good lighting. But when I use it at church, for some reason, the overhead lights show tons of scratches.

No screen protector, just the Body Glove Mirage skin shown here: http://www.amazon.com/Body-Glove-Mirage-Samsung-Captivate/dp/B0040M7H96
I generally throw it in the pocket opposite the one with my keys, but it does get thrown in with other stuff, like sunglasses, usb sticks, etc. Had it for over a year now and no scratches. Very resilient. Protectors definitely take away from the beauty of the screen, but it really depends on how hard you are on your phone.

No screen protector here. I somehow have a scratch on the screen though. Not sure how that happened but it isn't too noticeable and life goes on.

Scratches! help!

Ok am really! careful with my screen! but some how i have some little hair line Scratches! on my screen.. is there any way i can remove them safe? cheers

Should've put a screen protector immediately when you got it.
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you may find adding a protector now will hide the scratches if they are small enough

They may be superficial. Did you try some good rubbing with a lint free cloth. I had no sp for the longest with no scratches
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crackster said:
Ok am really! careful with my screen! but some how i have some little hair line Scratches! on my screen.. is there any way i can remove them safe? cheers
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sadly NO, If it makes you feel any better my Note always has a case on and just once i removed it for 5 minutes, I manage to drop the phone on a concrete now my screen is scratched thank good the glass didn't break.

I have a scratch on my Galaxy Note also :/ I've only just had it for a week. I only noticed the scratch when I was about to put the screen protector on. I think it happened due to me showing my sister my phone, and she gave my phone to my TWO year old niece to draw on :/ I'm so upset and angry about it. I've dropped my HTC Desire HD many times and not a single scratch.

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I have a tiny little scratch on my note as well. Its no big deal because it can't be seen unless you direct it to the light at a certain angle but it still bugs me.
It seems like the scratch was made with the s pen as it has the pattern of something I had drawn when I was trying out the s pen.
I'll be getting a screen film soon to avoid any further scratches.
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I got a 1mm deep scratch on my screen to
again always had a cover on it and when i took the cover off ... guess what .. it fell on its face and got the scratch.
Now i have the flip cover on it and wouldn't risk taking it off again.
As they mention : Gorilla grass is scratch resistant only.

Look up 'Displex' - it's the best scratch remover there is, and it's cheap too.
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This isn't for the faint of heart....
I built scale plastic model airplanes for 30+ years until the bifocals & carpel tunnel made it impossible to hold an airbrush.
The clear plastic "glass" parts, if not packaged in a bag, can get scratched, screwing up a good looking model.
For starters, try some mild toothpaste. DO NOT rub very hard. It's glass, but you don't want to really screw it up...just in case. After toothpaste, try buffing it with a sheep skin cloth (chamois). Now this one will sound silly, but it works on plastic, clear future floor wax. I used it from time to time to fill the spider cracks where they didn't get the mold clean when they injected the plastic.
I haven't had to fix a gorilla glass/hardened glass screen, but I've used these tricks on my old windows phones & pda's after too many uses of the stylus.
I don't use a protector on either my streak, for over a year, or my note for the last 3 months. I don't understand how they are getting scratched.

p51d007 said:
This isn't for the faint of heart....
I built scale plastic model airplanes for 30+ years until the bifocals & carpel tunnel made it impossible to hold an airbrush.
The clear plastic "glass" parts, if not packaged in a bag, can get scratched, screwing up a good looking model.
For starters, try some mild toothpaste. DO NOT rub very hard. It's glass, but you don't want to really screw it up...just in case. After toothpaste, try buffing it with a sheep skin cloth (chamois). Now this one will sound silly, but it works on plastic, clear future floor wax. I used it from time to time to fill the spider cracks where they didn't get the mold clean when they injected the plastic.
I haven't had to fix a gorilla glass/hardened glass screen, but I've used these tricks on my old windows phones & pda's after too many uses of the stylus.
I don't use a protector on either my streak, for over a year, or my note for the last 3 months. I don't understand how they are getting scratched.
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Clear floor polish works on harder clear plastic. Never tried on glass. WOrth trying for $10 from local supermarket. And then put a cover on it
I'm lucky so far - only scratches have been on the screen protectors. But then I need to replace them - used up two so far, and good quality 6H ones too! Better than a scratched glass though - sorry to hear about that!

New Type Screen Protector

Has anyone yet tried out this "new type" of screen protector yet?
http://www.cultofandroid.com/26901/...or-borrows-technology-from-bulletproof-glass/
Doc

Sounds neat, but anyone describing a screen protector as 'magic self healing' as a technology makes me skeptical.
I look forward to someone else reviewing it!

My screen is so hard it doesn't pick up scratches. Extra layers are just extra junk. Now if it provides some protection from breakage that would be useful. If I drop it on the ground is it any less likely to crack?
I don't disbelieve the article though. They have been working on self healing films for a few years. You can get self healing clear coat and paint on some cars. Maybe this would be useful for a construction worker who has to touch his screen with abrasive sandy grit. That WILL scratch our screen even though car keys and normal handling doesn't.
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I'd be interested to see how it heals scratches after some real abuse, like sandpaper. Keys and such are a worthless test at this point. It seems everyone has moved to something that can prevent scratching from those. But even the best current screens can't stop being scratched by a single grain of sand in your pocket. That alone is why I use screen protectors. It's not like I roll around in a sand dune then put the phone in my pocket, but even being VERY careful with a prior "Gorilla Glass" type screen, I got a couple scratches on it from sand. The only "glass" I know of that can prevent that is the Sapphire crystal that you can get on nicer watches. Those are probably far too expensive to use on phones.
For now, I'm using a Clarivue glass protector. It's really nice, but does have some tiny lifting at the top corners. And it will scratch from sand, like any glass. But it's a lot cheaper and easier to replace the protector than the phone screen.

This is the only video of it I can currently find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hosHv5k0IKI&feature=player_detailpage#t=764s
Not much of a review but it does show the "self healing" capability against a wire brush.
I'm considering getting one as I haven't yet bought a screen protector for my phone but feel I should do at some point.

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My screen is so hard it doesn't pick up scratches. Extra layers are just extra junk. Now if it provides some protection from breakage that would be useful. If I drop it on the ground is it any less likely to crack?
I don't disbelieve the article though. They have been working on self healing films for a few years. You can get self healing clear coat and paint on some cars. Maybe this would be useful for a construction worker who has to touch his screen with abrasive sandy grit. That WILL scratch our screen even though car keys and normal handling doesn't.
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I think that it is great that you don't pick up scratches but some people keep the phone in their pocket with keys, coins and other crap so something like this does make sense. I may try to go to a T-Mobile store and check it out.

DocEsq said:
I think that it is great that you don't pick up scratches but some people keep the phone in their pocket with keys, coins and other crap so something like this does make sense. I may try to go to a T-Mobile store and check it out.
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So do I of course.
Keys and coins don't hurt this screen.
They haven't hurt most screens the last few years. My og evo after 2 years of rough careless handling with no case or screen protector was scratched up but only lightly and not enough to matter. That is, a lot of fine scratches but none of them deep, and the screen is still clear so they don't matter in any functional way. And it took 2 years to even get that way and it's not worth anything by then to try to sell it even if it were new and never used. My evo lte after 1 year of the same did even better and is almost unblemished. Only 1 year but it looks better than the og evo did at 1 year. My girlfriends iphone4 after 2 years of the same looks almost unblemished, although she handles hers a little more carefully than I do, but still, no screen protector and it rubs up on keys and hair clips and paper clips and coins in her purse and in the cup holder in the car.
The lest few years of hard glass screens are very hard just for this reason and they work pretty well.
The reason I mentioned sand is that sand or other hard mineral abrasive will scratch it. Most metals won't. Especially not chrome plated brass keys or copper/silver alloys in coins. My stainless steel multitool doesn't even. The tungsten carbide cutting wheel of a glass cutter would with enough concerted pressure.

screen protectors

who's using them? i horribly failed at putting one on today (a free one that came with my case..looked crappy though with tons of bubbles between the 3 layers before i even put it on lol) but yeah, i'm real bad at putting protectors on tablets because it kept coming out crooked because of that damn home button etc.
anyway, i've got a pack of 5 coming in the mail sometime this week, and i'm wondering if i should even bother attempting again, or just use it naked. it feels so good without a protector, but i'm afraid of scratching the screen. i've been using screen protectors since 2011 with my HTC Rezound, so idk what to do. i always end up with tiny scratches on my protectors, so i'm thinking i'll end up scratching the screen..

jayochs said:
who's using them? i horribly failed at putting one on today (a free one that came with my case..looked crappy though with tons of bubbles between the 3 layers before i even put it on lol) but yeah, i'm real bad at putting protectors on tablets because it kept coming out crooked because of that damn home button etc.
anyway, i've got a pack of 5 coming in the mail sometime this week, and i'm wondering if i should even bother attempting again, or just use it naked. it feels so good without a protector, but i'm afraid of scratching the screen. i've been using screen protectors since 2011 with my HTC Rezound, so idk what to do. i always end up with tiny scratches on my protectors, so i'm thinking i'll end up scratching the screen..
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I was thinking about picking up some myself. Which ones did you order?

Put one on but spend at least 10 bucks for a decent one. Illunisheild thats the one I got from amazon for the 8.4 its pretty good.

I got these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161361388722?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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I always put screen protectors on all of my phones and tablets. I've just put one on my Tab S 8.4, had a few dusts under the protector. usually I would rip it out and try again, but I thought not today! Because fortunately the screen protector came with some stickers to help get rid of the dust.
Happy to say it is dust and bubble free now. Although it is not one of those fancy screen protectors, just a cheap one called elec shield.

invisible shield is the best.

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Put one on but spend at least 10 bucks for a decent one. Illunisheild thats the one I got from amazon for the 8.4 its pretty good.
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I ordered these from Amazon as well. Should be in today.
I'll give it a try and see if I like it. Probably gonna feel weird at first though.

I too would like to buy one. I asked ismooth on twitter but they are not gonna make one for the tab S (I have one for my note 3 and it's just perfect).
I think I'm gonna go Invisibleshield. It's not cheap but I've only heard good things about their products :good:

anyone have any tricks as to how to get it on nice and straight on the tablets? I'm bad at tablets for protectors but decent at phones. I saw one idea where you place it down on the screen then tape the sides like a hinge, then you flip it over, peel it off, and just flip it back and lay it on the tablet and it should line up perfectly. wonder if it works.
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anyone have any tricks as to how to get it on nice and straight on the tablets? I'm bad at tablets for protectors but decent at phones. I saw one idea where you place it down on the screen then tape the sides like a hinge, then you flip it over, peel it off, and just flip it back and lay it on the tablet and it should line up perfectly. wonder if it works.
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That's exactly what I did. Works perfectly. The screen protector I bought even came with the positioning tape and stickers for dust removal. But you can just use Scotch tapes.

Mr shield
I have used many different screen protector products. I like spigen and I just installed the Mr shield ones. The are two finishes. Clear and matte. The matte finish cuts a lot of glare but impacts out door viewing. I now have the clear and love it. No bubbles. I have several videos on screen protectors that show tips on install . Herr is my initial install http://youtu.be/NHzarYjTtzE

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That's exactly what I did. Works perfectly. The screen protector I bought even came with the positioning tape and stickers for dust removal. But you can just use Scotch tapes.
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sweet! i'll give it a try when they come in

Putting on a screen protector reminds one of what a dirty filthy planet we live on. There is dust EVERYWHERE. One tried and true method is to run a hot shower in your bathroom for 10 minutes with the door closed until the room steams up. This pulls all of the airborne dust from the air. Turn the shower off, and use the tape hinge method to apply the protector.
Despite your best efforts you are likely to STILL get that ONE DAMNED PIECE OF DUST FROM HELL that manages to somehow get on the screen. If that happens, DO NOT TRY TO PEEL THE PROTECTOR UP FROM THE EDGE because if you bend it at all it will never seat again properly and you'll have a bubble that won't go away. Use tape to stick to the outside near the corner and gently lift that way, then use another piece of tape to grab the dust particle.
One negative of putting a screen protector on a tablet this size. Unless the protector is tempered glass, you are likely to feel a bit of drag as you swipe the screen - no plastic will ever feel as smooth as glass - and because the area is larger than your phone, you'll notice the resistance more. Also, unless the screen protector has an oleophobic coating, it will be harder to clean greasy fingerprints of it than from glass. Last point, most screen protectors are actually softer than glass so you are likely to get it pretty scratched up which, while saving your glass, leaves you with a scratched up viewing surface you have to look at. The alternative is to buy a screen protector with a hardness of 9 or above with an oleophobic coating but those tend to be a lot more expensive.
Get a pack of 3 or more if you can. You WILL screw it up a few times and you WILL want to replace them occasionally as they get scratched up pretty easily depending upon how anal you are about such things.

good advice, thanks! but do you guys think this thing needs one in the end? I know gorilla glass is pretty soft and scratches easily so idk..
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good advice, thanks! but do you guys think this thing needs one in the end? I know gorilla glass is pretty soft and scratches easily so idk..
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I don't believe this tablet has Gorilla Glass, at least I don't believe the specs say so (could be wrong?). So yes, it could scratch easily. You can try and be careful but all takes is a tiny bit of grit on your finger, stylus or wiping cloth and you are done, Gorilla Glass or no.

Actually you know, skip the steamy bathroom. Just do it in a dry room but use a strip of masking tape and screen until every bit of dust is gone. Also remember, after you place the protector on the screen with the taped hinge, make sure you clean the screen again because it will get dust on it from the bottom of the protector.
Mr Shield makes very good inexpensive protectors.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KATOH2S/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
perfect install on first one using the painters tape technique.
heres how
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPqDwVZzzM

Why put a cheap screen protector on a premium device like the tab s. The best deserves the best or better. my screen protector cost 2 for 13 and a tempered glass on is on its way for $18. You cant even tell there on when installed correct.

will6316 said:
Why put a cheap screen protector on a premium device like the tab s. The best deserves the best or better. my screen protector cost 2 for 13 and a tempered glass on is on its way for $18. You cant even tell there on when installed correct.
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Be very careful with the tempered glass protector. NEVER left it up by the edges - use tape. They bend VERY easily and once bent will never lay down flat properly again. Every tempered glass protector I've ever used developed sealing problems along the edges, especially near the home button. YMMV but that is my experience.

There aren't good selection of screen protectors in the UK. Looked in Amazon, Ebay, Google, nothing with quality. So I only got the Elec shield.
I'd get tempered glass if I could, but as long as I screen is protected for now, then I'm happy enough.