Hi, I'm new here. *waves*
I'm trying to unlock my HTC Touch Diamond on Bell Mobility in Canada and I've run into a couple questions.
1. How do I tell if my phone is CDMA or GSM?
I know for a FACT it doesn't have a sim card (which I believe is the defining factor between the two)... but for some reason the search results I've been getting just fail to clarify whether or not Bell Canada is GSM or CDMA. I believe they went GSM in 2010 but since my phone is pre-2010 I'm not entirely sure.
2. Is my phone even really a Diamond?
For a while I was wondering if my phone was actually a victor p3702, (I know... same $#!+ different pile, right?) but in the images I got from Google I became VERY confused as my phone has a 3.2mp camera and the flat backing, and has that subtle slight curve to the bottom of the screen and says Touch Diamond when I boot it up. All the images I can find are of phones with a 3.1mp camera.
3. Do I even need to do this?
All I want to do is get custom ROMS for the phone. I heard in my internet travels that for a CDMA phone you don't need to unlock for new ROMs... just roaming and all that jazz.
4. WTF!?
Apparently the only unlocker for CDMA diamonds in existance is on the PPCGeeks site, but it gives me a damn 502 every time I go to check it out. Are there any others out there?
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I hate to post topics that might have been covered...but i've searched and searched until i got a headache and figured I'd just ask....
From what I understand, from a t-mobile representative I know, there is a download able patch for the wing that will allow you to use hotspot @ home (that is use your mobile phone and mobile phone number to place calls through ANY active wifi network you can connect to) and also one for the sidekick..which is irrelevant considering the platform...
Anyways, I have a wing and went to t-mobiles site and see nothing about downloading this fabled update but haven't found anything.
Long story short: does this exist, and if it does, has anyone tried messing with it (i.e. cooking something up) so it works for the MDA?
I love my MDA and the wing is really..well...the same thing, with a few new lame features.
I, too, have a T-Mobile MDA and REALLY want to use this service. I can't understand why I wouldn't be able to utilize the MDA's built in WiFi features with the service. Anyone done found any helpful hints since this thread was originally posted?
I understand this thread is old, but wanted to chip in and voice my curiosity for this as well.
I have the MDA and have been very happy with T-Mobile. But after moving to a new place recently, I have NO coverage inside my home.
The MDA is a very capable phone and I'm sure that [email protected] is usable on it with just a software installation. Although, does anybody have a clue as to how to make that happen?
xdamaddy said:
I understand this thread is old, but wanted to chip in and voice my curiosity for this as well.
I have the MDA and have been very happy with T-Mobile. But after moving to a new place recently, I have NO coverage inside my home.
The MDA is a very capable phone and I'm sure that [email protected] is usable on it with just a software installation. Although, does anybody have a clue as to how to make that happen?
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The only WM phone that I'm aware of that can possibly be used with [email protected] is the Hp IPAQ 510 that has not been provosioned for AT&T.
There are two SKU's for this phone-one for AT&T, and one that is unlocked.
Hey guys on my 6800 when dialing a number it says what state the area code is, how can i get this feature on my Tilt?? thank you
and is it possible to have it while calling in?? thanks
I think that's just a Sprint feature.
I used to have it on my cell phone with Sprint, and you say you have it on your Mogul now. I've had Windows Mobile phones on T-Mobile and now AT&T, and neither has it.
Someone correct me if you've ever seen the state name displayed next to a phone number on the screen of any phone other than Sprint.
Yeah almost all my sprint phones had that feature, damnit i find it rather usefull sometimes when i refuse to answer a call and find out who it can possibly be.. Well if anyone knows how to get this on our phones, i know they have it for the mogul, so it must be somewhere in the rom...
Sometimes I am amazed at the lack of applications for WM5/WM6 versus the Palm. I had a Treo before the Tilt and no matter what, there seemed to be a program for everything, including AreaCodes. When I cam to Windows, I assumed there would be 1,000's more, but it is simply not true!
Sorry for that......
You would think it would be pretty simple... just have the phone display the state name matched from a list of all the area codes and their states...
Maybe someone can cook a cab? I would if i know how to do it
Hi guys...sorry if this is already answered here, but I just got a supposedly 'unlocked' AT&T Tilt from eBay and put in my Rogers SIM card. It seems to work OK on the data side of things - gleefully accessing the internet and even syncing my email, but I can't get the voice calls to work. Even shows '3G' for the data connection.
Whenever anyone calls me, they get a couple of rings and it goes to my voicemail. If I try to call out, it dials, then immediately ends the call when it tries to connect.
The SIM card is OK I know, since it works in my Eten X500 just fine.
Do I have to do something to the phone to completely remove the AT&T stuff?
Help...I love the phone, but if it won't make voice calls....
Thanks.
/drt
I had this same problem on ATT in the US. They kept trying to tell me it was a problem with my phone, although I knew this wasnt the case because I had 2 tilts in a row that did this. I called them and eventually got through to a higer level tech, tier 2 I think. I'm not completely sure what he did but he fixed it. It was a problem on their end.
I was able to use data as well, just no calls. It would drop them as soon as I made them.
Call Rogers, they will probably work it out.
You need to flash your tilt with a different version of radio and it will work.
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You need to flash your tilt with a different version of radio and it will work.
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Thanks... any particular suggestions? I'm thinking of flashing the unit with QMobile 1.2, but I don't think that comes with a radio ROM...I guess I should pick one up from the Upload area?
Thanks again for the help.
/drt
xconradx said:
I had this same problem on ATT in the US. They kept trying to tell me it was a problem with my phone, although I knew this wasnt the case because I had 2 tilts in a row that did this. I called them and eventually got through to a higer level tech, tier 2 I think. I'm not completely sure what he did but he fixed it. It was a problem on their end.
I was able to use data as well, just no calls. It would drop them as soon as I made them.
Call Rogers, they will probably work it out.
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I may give that a try, but Rogers doesn't provide support for phones they don't sell. I think I will be SOL once they find out I'm connecting with a 'non-standard' phone.
/drt
drtolson said:
I may give that a try, but Rogers doesn't provide support for phones they don't sell. I think I will be SOL once they find out I'm connecting with a 'non-standard' phone.
/drt
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rogers is really bad when it comes to supporting phones they don't have. You may want to call them and lie, and say you and a TYTN instead of a Tilt, and see if they will try to help.
That being said, I know about 3 guys that have gotten either a TYTN II or a Tilt in the Vancouver area and have popped in their SIM card and everything has worked just fine, including myself. Have you tried flashing a different radio - I am using 1.27.12.17 - perhaps the At&T radios don't work in Canada?...just a thought
here is a link to the radio thread, where you can download the 1.27.12.17 radio...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
zakhir_n said:
rogers is really bad when it comes to supporting phones they don't have. You may want to call them and lie, and say you and a TYTN instead of a Tilt, and see if they will try to help.
That being said, I know about 3 guys that have gotten either a TYTN II or a Tilt in the Vancouver area and have popped in their SIM card and everything has worked just fine, including myself. Have you tried flashing a different radio - I am using 1.27.12.17 - perhaps the At&T radios don't work in Canada?...just a thought
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OK, the radio I currently have is 1.27.12.11. Do I have to HardSPL before I install the new radio? Also, I notice you've SuperCID unlocked as well... do I need to do that also?
Thanks for the link to the radio file.
/drt
Well, I got it to work, but...
The ongoing saga continues....
a) HardSPL'd and Flashed in a new radio 1.27.12.17. No change.
b) Played with the network settings a bit, and could occassionally get the phone to 'downgrade' to an Edge cx, and voila! the phone started working. But AT&T's software doesn't give me the option to 'hold' it there.
c) Talked to Rogers tech support -- pretty helpful really. They asked for the # of my SIM card and said it wasn't a '3G' card (it IS pretty old) and suggested I get a new one from the local guys. Went up, got one for free (since I gave them my old one) and tried it -- No luck, same problem.
d) Flashed QMobile 1.2 ROM -- still getting the at&t screen on initial startup, but everything else seems good and the HTC-ish stuff it's supposed to be.
e) Went to configure the phone band settings. If I leave them on 'Auto', it finds the Rogers 3G network and hooks up, but the same problem arises -- when it finishes dialing and tries to connect, it just ends the calls. And incoming calls go directly to my voicemail. HOWEVER, if I specifically configure it for GSM network and the 1900+850 bands, then it locks onto Edge and the phone works fine.
I guess it's back to tech support with Rogers to see what they have to say about my account, etc.
Very Weird.
/drt
similar looking thread here which might be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Im personally still using the original at&t tilt radio ver 1.27.12.11 on Rogers and haven't had problems with voice on 3G. I haven't ever used a data connection with Rogers however..
Comatose said:
similar looking thread here which might be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Im personally still using the original at&t tilt radio ver 1.27.12.11 on Rogers and haven't had problems with voice on 3G. I haven't ever used a data connection with Rogers however..
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Yup...from that thread, the description sounds EXACTLY like the difficulties I'm experiencing. It appears to be a hardware failure... Unfortunately, I bought from a guy on eBay, so I'm not sure I can send it in for repair. It works on Edge though, and that will be good enough for now.
Thanks everyone for the help.
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Hello all!
Just to start things of, I have read trough the forum and I've googled around alot about this but it doesn't look like anyne has ever posted what worked to fix this.
If there's someone that has sent in their kaiser to have the mb replaced could you please send me some sort of email where they state it is a factory problem? the warranty is out and I really don't want to pay for a new mb on this 2 year old phone.
I've tried several different radios and none of them work, currently using wm6.1 downloaded from htc.com.
Problem is as the topic states it doesn't work in 3g. As it tries to connect to the 3g network it just searches, but never connects.
Some of the threads I've read says that the ppl get it working sometimes, but for me it never happens.
I have got a working 3g simcard, and I've tried the card in another telephone and there it workds perfectly.
The phone is a HTC Tytn II
Anyone that can help me? thanks
It still just sounds like a radio problem. Have you tried the whole list of radios? Trying "several" might not be enough. As long as you have hardSPL'd your device there's no harm in trying the whole list of radios from here, starting with newest first and working your way up the list.
I'll try them all.. back in an hour .
There.. tried them all.
It connects to a 3g network, then when I try to make a phonecall or data session it just disconnects.
the closest I got was with the neon 1.58.25.17 where it was still connected even after the failed phonecall. It just beeps a couple of time and then it says I'm not connected to any network.
Just a little thought...
I've read that wcdma here in europe is at 2100 / 900.. but in my phone I can only choose between UMTS 2100, 1900+850 and 2100 + 800.
No I'm just dumb sorry..
Why not get it checked out professionally?
Maybe it's a damaged tracer inside the antenna sticker. It shouldn't cost much to get an HTC service centre to access what's wrong (although if it does require a new motherboard and they don't cover it under warranty, it'll probably be uneconomic to repair. Make sure it's fully reverted to a from the factory state (no hardSPL and original ROM/Radio/SPL) before taking it in though.
Well, that is the next logic step.
As I said in my first post, I have read on other forums aswell as this where people have had problem with this exact same thing and if anyone of them had it fixed with software I'd like to know.
You could buy a broken one on ebay for parts and just swap out that motherboard for your own instead of sending it to HTC. Its fairly straightforward to replace it.
Regards
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As I said in my first post, I have read on other forums aswell as this where people have had problem with this exact same thing and if anyone of them had it fixed with software I'd like to know.
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If you've restored it back to an as from the factory state (with all original ROM/Radio and SPL) and it's no longer behaving as it did when it was new (test with the memory card removed) then that proves the difference must be due to hardware changes/failures if you test it in areas where there's known good 3G coverage and the same sim gets good 3G coverage in another phone. If you haven't done this yet, I'd suggest you do (you didn't say if you changed back from hardSPL to OEM, it shouldn't make a difference but at least you'll know it's 100 % original). Preferably test it with an HTC WM 6.0 ROM/Radio/SPL. If that doesn't make a difference, before rushing out and spending money on motherboards etc, get it checked out by an HTC professional - the small cost of such testing may save you more money in the long run on parts that aren't actually needed. A work-around that's been used to get reception (although not in 3G) is to change the band just to GSM from Auto.
Good luck finding someone who's been through your exact scenario but this is something you can do in the mean time.
Hi ldjocke, I live in Italy and my Kaiser works fine with 3G (checked with Vodafone, TIM and 3 operators...)
Looking at band selection in phone settings, I can found:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Choosing Auto it succesfully connects...
In Italy GSM uses 900 and 1800 and UMTS uses 2100...
Where do you live?
Hello Ppelleg.
I'm in sweden, and got thesame settings as you on my phone.
Afther reading through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074 I'm confident that it's a hardware issue. Sending it in and will be back with information.
Just wanted to close this thread.. I sent it in for repair and as everyone said in the thread that I linked to in an earlier post it was the 3gcircuit that was burned.
But.. the price it cost me to fix it is the same as buying a brand new HTC HD2 (6880sek) and that's just not right.
Still looking for anyone that has gotten it in written from htc that the tytn had a couple of faulty boards. There should be some way around this massive amount..
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Just wanted to close this thread.. I sent it in for repair and as everyone said in the thread that I linked to in an earlier post it was the 3gcircuit that was burned.
But.. the price it cost me to fix it is the same as buying a brand new HTC HD2 (6880sek) and that's just not right.
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What did the the HTC repair centre had caused the board to fail? What did they say when you questioned them about having heard of such an issue with older models of the phone? If the price was going to be astronomical, they should have contacted you to get the go-ahead first (unless you'd given them authority to go ahead no matter what the cost).
Some points to put to them.
First off, thanks for all the great info on this site! I've used it quite a bit before registering (yeah, I'm a bit of a lurker), but now I need to see if I can get a few opinions on some items with my Atrix HD.
First off, I have T-Mobile and the phone is set for At&t. I contacted At&t and they gave me the unlock code for the phone. Here's the first strange thing: When I put in my T-Mobile SIM card, I do not get the unknown SIM error. I have to type in #073887* to get to the SIM unlock dialogue. When I put in the code though, it states "Network Unlock Request Unsuccessful". I'm not sure what is going on, the phone says it's on T-Mobile's network, but I'm lucky to get a 10% signal (my WP8 got 100% LTE at my house). I also still get the At&t startup screen and the system version is from ATT (98.5.38.MB886.ATT.en.US). Could I be doing something wrong or is this expected behavior? Is there a ROM that it could be flashed to in order to eliminate all of the At&t sections?
The second question, again being a total noob to Android (I was a WP8 user, smack me now), is there any solid guides on how to optimize this handset for T-Mobile as well as use in general? I see a lot of rooting software and ZIP files, but it gets to be a bit of a wash after a few hundred posts!
Some additional info:
I'm well into a 4G LTE range
Android version 4.1.1
Baseband version MB886_BP_100740.071.65.04P
Kernel version 3.0.42-gebf622c
Build date 04/28/14
Thanks in advance!