I'm in the US and want to buy an unlocked, international version of the I-9000, probably from Singapore, probably on AT&T.
Will Samsung release "generic," non-carrier specific ROMS? Or will that be all from the excellent developer community?
I'm hoping it would still do high-speed 3G because it covers some of AT&T's 3G bands???
Thanks!
Eh. You cant get a international version in usa. If you get one from singapore it will be international ver. It will have problems on at&t as they use 850/1900 mhz for 3g while international ver uses 900/2100mhz. Before you buy a device please make sure the 3G radio will work with your telco. If you are in usa then buy one from the telco you will be using as it will be set up right. But for rest of world we can get away with standard international gsm ver
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Looks like the HD7 is such a popular and desired phone that AT&T now wants it.
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd7-coming-to-att
Oh... that would be sooo nice. I love my HTC HD7 (T-Mobile branded) but I'm on FIDO and can't get 3G speed with T-Mobile version. AT&T in the USA and Rogers/FIDO in Canada have same 3G bands so this would be great. Even more reason to sell my HTC HD7. Any takers in Toronto wanting to use phone on Wind Mobile or Mobilecity ? PM me
I just bought a T9193 version of the phone from an eBay seller in Australia and while I wait for it to arrive here in Delaware, I want to order some accessories that I know I need. (extra battery, desktop cradle, car cradle, etc.)
Now, when I'm browsing the 1,000's of ads on eBay, some of them specify that their product (cradle for example), only works with a particular model, and NOT the TMoUS version. That being said, there would have to be a PHYSICAL difference between all of the device models. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
SportbikeRiderXX said:
I just bought a T9193 version of the phone from an eBay seller in Australia and while I wait for it to arrive here in Delaware, I want to order some accessories that I know I need. (extra battery, desktop cradle, car cradle, etc.)
Now, when I'm browsing the 1,000's of ads on eBay, some of them specify that their product (cradle for example), only works with a particular model, and NOT the TMoUS version. That being said, there would have to be a PHYSICAL difference between all of the device models. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
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The t9193 is the Austrailian version and uses 850/2100 mhz band. Afaik from a quick google AT&T use 850/1900 mhz so the 3g will work fine in most places but not all, see here for coverage:
http://cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
As for desktop cradle and car cradle the they both have micro usb ports and require the same voltage so will both work with the same cradles.
dowlinr said:
The t9193 is the Austrailian version and uses 850/2100 mhz band. Afaik from a quick google AT&T use 850/1900 mhz so the 3g will work fine in most places but not all, see here for coverage:
http://cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
As for desktop cradle and car cradle the they both have micro usb ports and require the same voltage so will both work with the same cradles.
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The T9193 uses 850MHz for HSPA..., so I'll be able to access AT&T's 3G data, but thank you for your concern.
I'm asking about the PHYSICAL size/shape of the device. Some items offered for the HD2 on eBay (an Otterbox for example) specify that it will only work with the International version of the phone, and NOT the US (T-Mobile USA) version of the device. There must be SOME difference to warrant that...
SportbikeRiderXX said:
The T9193 uses 850MHz for HSPA..., so I'll be able to access AT&T's 3G data, but thank you for your concern.
I'm asking about the PHYSICAL size/shape of the device. Some items offered for the HD2 on eBay (an Otterbox for example) specify that it will only work with the International version of the phone, and NOT the US (T-Mobile USA) version of the device. There must be SOME difference to warrant that...
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The TmoUSA HD2 is T-mobile branded. because its branded it's 1.5mm(i think that's the right number but you can check comparison charts online) taller than any other version of the phone. That's way they're clarified as either US or International. Either way the TmoUSA is taller and therefore the two types can't use the same cases because it wont wit 'perfectly' like for example:Otterbox's
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The TmoUSA HD2 is T-mobile branded. because its branded it's 1.5mm(i think that's the right number but you can check comparison charts online) taller than any other version of the phone. That's way they're clarified as either US or International. Either way the TmoUSA is taller and therefore the two types can't use the same cases because it wont wit 'perfectly' like for example:Otterbox's
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Thanks, googlesax. That's the type of answer I was looking for.
The 9193 and 8585 are same size, the T-Mo US version is the only one that is sized differently, and it's 1.5mm taller, like the poster above said. Anything that works with euro hd2 (t8585) will work with yours. Have fun with your new hd2, it's a great device.
More than one version of T9193?
I'm shopping for a T9193 to use on AT&T's 3G network in Arizona. I came across several websites that list both a 'T9193 T-Mobile' version and a 'T9193 Unlocked' version. I assume one is branded for T-Mobile, while the other is not, however I thought the T-Mobile version is the T8585. Are there two T-Mobile versions? If so, do they both receive the 850 MHz 3G band, or just the Telstra version? Aside from 3G bands, are there any other hardware differences (amount of RAM for instance) between the models, or just the fact that they are branded/locked?
By the way, I have spoken with several AT&T reps and they will be getting rid of the Edge & GPRS data services in the next frew months (which are on the 1900 MHz frequency) and moving to 850 MHz nationwide by the end of 2011, so if you want the HD2, you're only bet is the T9393. If you buy a T-Mo US HD2 and want to use it on AT&T it will be useless in a matter of months.
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I'm shopping for a T9193 to use on AT&T's 3G network in Arizona. I came across several websites that list both a 'T9193 T-Mobile' version and a 'T9193 Unlocked' version. I assume one is branded for T-Mobile, while the other is not, however I thought the T-Mobile version is the T8585. Are there two T-Mobile versions? If so, do they both receive the 850 MHz 3G band, or just the Telstra version? Aside from 3G bands, are there any other hardware differences (amount of RAM for instance) between the models, or just the fact that they are branded/locked?
By the way, I have spoken with several AT&T reps and they will be getting rid of the Edge & GPRS data services in the next frew months (which are on the 1900 MHz frequency) and moving to 850 MHz nationwide by the end of 2011, so if you want the HD2, you're only bet is the T9393. If you buy a T-Mo US HD2 and want to use it on AT&T it will be useless in a matter of months.
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There's only one hd2 with the 850 3g band, and that's the t9193 telstra branded phone. The T-Mobile phone is not a t9193 and does not have 850 band.
Gprs and edge work on the same frequency as their voice service... even if they drop the 1900 MHz frequency, they will still have edge and gprs. It doesn't make sense that they could get rid of it altogether... that would ruin a ton of their old phones people are still using on their service. They wouldn't do that.
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Thanks for the info .... that's what I thought too, that there was only the T9193 for Telstra, and then T8585 for T-Mobile.
Making things even more confusing, apparently both the T8585 & T9193 have the same amount of RAM on-board, but the T-Mobile one has more RAM available, while the T9193 has a portion of it locked. Is there anyway to unlock the RAM to bring it in par with T-Mobile? I'd hate to spend so much on a phone and have it crippled like that.
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Thanks for the info .... that's what I thought too, that there was only the T9193 for Telstra, and then T8585 for T-Mobile.
Making things even more confusing, apparently both the T8585 & T9193 have the same amount of RAM on-board, but the T-Mobile one has more RAM available, while the T9193 has a portion of it locked. Is there anyway to unlock the RAM to bring it in par with T-Mobile? I'd hate to spend so much on a phone and have it crippled like that.
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The T-Mobile US is not a t8585... the t8585 is the European model and has same size and specs as t9193. The T-Mobile US is a third model that came out months later than the other 2 models. It is slightly taller and had 1gb of ROM (internal NAND memory) while the 8585 & 9193 have 512mb ROM. The RAM size is actually the same on all the models, but on the 8585&9193 you must unlock part of it by flashing a more recent radio. So basically, all the models are the same except that the T-Mobile USA HD2 has double the ROM size, which is nice, but isn't that big of a deal.
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Thanks for the info .... that's what I thought too, that there was only the T9193 for Telstra, and then T8585 for T-Mobile.
Making things even more confusing, apparently both the T8585 & T9193 have the same amount of RAM on-board, but the T-Mobile one has more RAM available, while the T9193 has a portion of it locked. Is there anyway to unlock the RAM to bring it in par with T-Mobile? I'd hate to spend so much on a phone and have it crippled like that.
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Hey just so you know, AZ does not have 850mhz for AT&T 3G. I have a T9193, and it only obtains Edge connectivity, even with the proper radio. I have contacted AT&T in regards to this, and they stated they do not own the 850mhz band for AZ and have no plans to use it in the future. Just figured I'd tell you so you don't waste money expecting 3G.
Here is a decent map of their network:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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Hey just so you know, AZ does not have 850mhz for AT&T 3G. I have a T9193, and it only obtains Edge connectivity, even with the proper radio. I have contacted AT&T in regards to this, and they stated they do not own the 850mhz band for AZ and have no plans to use it in the future. Just figured I'd tell you so you don't waste money expecting 3G.
Here is a decent map of their network:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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I'm in Delaware and I'm getting really good 3G coverage. My only regret is not getting this phone sooner.
Doesn't the T-Mobile version have the HSDPA 1700/2100MHz band and the initial HTC HD2 has HSDPA 900/2100Mhz band? Because the trouble i am getting in New Zealand is that i get poor reception indoors with the T-mobile variant which i got from the states which is what i suspect to be the missing 900mhz band which is supposed to be able to penetrate better through walls hence giving better indoor reception.
I have an unlocked 02 HD7 which I brought with me before emigrating from the UK.
I am currently using it on Rogers, however I am thinking of upping sticks and moving to windmobile which is AWS. I know that the HD7 was sold be TMO US so it is AWS compatible but was this a different hardware to the O2 version or is there a way to get it to work on AWS (radio rom flash etc.)
Thanks
Tim
Shameless bump, anyone know the answer. Or alternatively know if you can use a Euro HD7 on TMo US?
Tim
From what i know about O2 is that they don't use the same frequencies as such changing the radio version won't do any good as the physical antenna design wont work with the AWS frequencies. your best bet would be to sell the HD7 and buy a new one a Tmo version. I bought mine about a week ago for $425CAD in Toronto and am now using it on Wind.
They're different hardware. The Bell HD7 doesn't work on WIND for the same reason.
Thanks for you help, hoped it wasn't the answer but guess I will sell up and move on.
Tim
Currently running a ICS rom on my Galaxy S i9000
Bell canada is getting way to greedy... so i was thinking to switch over to
http://windmobile.ca/en/Pages/default.aspx
unlimited everything... 40$ (i live in Toronto)
question is can i get the Galaxy S to work on the Wind Mobile network?
and does anyone have experience with wind mobile?
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currently using JVO
if flashing a new modem is all i have to do ill be cancelling my contract today!
thanks for the quick reply...
i see you are with bell are you happy with em?
I'm actually with Virgin, same network as Bell but much cheaper. You could check out what they have on offer.
So I checked online, Wind uses UMTS band 4 (1700mhz) while Bell uses Band 5.
I switched over to Wind about a week ago ($29 unlimited talk/text/data) and I can assure you that your Bell Vibrant I9000m will not work on Wind's network (I tried with my Wind SIM card). The frequency bands that Wind uses (AWS 1700/2100) are not compatible with the Bell Vibrant I9000m handset. If you had a T-Mobile Vibrant I9000m however, then it's possible to have it work with Wind's network, but definitely not if you have the Bell SGS.
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I switched over to Wind about a week ago ($29 unlimited talk/text/data) and I can assure you that your Bell Vibrant I9000m will not work on Wind's network (I tried with my Wind SIM card). The frequency bands that Wind uses (AWS 1700/2100) are not compatible with the Bell Vibrant I9000m handset. If you had a T-Mobile Vibrant I9000m however, then it's possible to have it work with Wind's network, but definitely not if you have the Bell SGS.
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Whoops. hopefully tb5 dodged a bullet there.
Thanks for the info!
@snehasish
yea went into the Wind Mobile store today and tried to put 2 sim cards in, a screen came up 'sim pin lock code' for both i dismissed that screen but the phone didn't work.
had the jvo modem running Onecosmic's ICS Port Android 4.0.3 RC2.1
@adslee
that's pretty disappointing... i had high hopes guess ill have to sell it, or get bell to give me a 40$ unlimited everything plan...
Wind uses AWS and that's why it doesn't work. Our phones are GSM quad band.
Did you take a look at what plans Virgin has?
flash a bell modem.. or... in your dialer type, *#2263#* and under multi band make sure 850 is selected... also you will need Wind mobile APN... furthermore...your phone has to be UNLOCKED to use another SIM card...
wow, so much misinformation!
as mentioned before, you can NOT use bell's i9000m on the wind/mobilicity home network.
for UMTS (aka 3G, 3G+, or whatever they are calling it now)
wind/molicity/t-mobile uses 1700/2100 mhz
big 3:telus, rogers, bell (including it's child company, virgin) and att uses 850/1900 mhz
yes, "our phones are GSM quad band" (aka 2G, edge...).
in canada, only rogers has 2G towers. wind uses this rogers 2G for roaming, so yes, you can use your bell i9000m with wind... but only for roaming on 2G.
and no, you can not just "flash a different" modem to make this work.
and no, wind does not use CDMA.
thus, short answer, don't use bell's i9000m on wind.
yea currently looking to buy out a T-mobile device...
on GSM ARENA filtered out 1700 / 2100 mhz phones.
just need to sell my galaxy s as most phone will be $500+
tb5... said:
yea currently looking to buy out a T-mobile device...
on GSM ARENA filtered out 1700 / 2100 mhz phones.
just need to sell my galaxy s as most phone will be $500+
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you can try looking for "t959" (t-mobile version of galaxy s) on ebay. I see quite a few used ones around $200 + ~$20 shipping (Canada), which is probably around the same amount that you'll be able to sell your i9000m for.
Good luck.
yea i saw that might move up to the SGS2 since i have to sell this phone.