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G1 w/ no data question.

I plan on buying a second hand G1 and rooting it and installing CyanogenMOD 4.0.1. I currently just have a HTC Juno (Shadow) with no data plan and I do not want to get one, is there a way I can disable data so I don't get charged? And do I have to change the APN to use MMS and or SMS with out a data plan? Thank you.
also, will T-mobile give me a unlock code if I didn't buy the G1 from them? (I am a subscriber for more than 90 days)

i have the same question.
thx 4 help.

Just disable the sync and your good to go. Also if u dont have data plan, they wont charge you because it will not work. Thats how Tmobile is anyways. FInally I dont think Tmobile will give you one, just go purchase off of the internet.

shaolinx said:
Just disable the sync and your good to go. Also if u dont have data plan, they wont charge you because it will not work. Thats how Tmobile is anyways. FInally I dont think Tmobile will give you one, just go purchase off of the internet.
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Ok, thanks. I didn't know if they would just start charging me per mb. And do you have to change the APN to get MMS with out data, cause I have unlimited messaging but I heard that MMS uses data on the G1?

shaolinx said:
Just disable the sync and your good to go. Also if u dont have data plan, they wont charge you because it will not work. Thats how Tmobile is anyways. FInally I dont think Tmobile will give you one, just go purchase off of the internet.
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Actually you have apps that go out and try to get updates and other info without you know, so just turning off sync won't work. There is an app on the market (can't remember the name) that stops all outgoing data.

Thx for the answers!
Could anyone tell us the name of this app?

If I remember right it's droid"something" or "something"droid, but of course without the "something"

And you will be charged if you don't have a data plan if you don't stop the data from going out.

here is the app!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541380
its called " droid wall"

Yep that's it. I knew it was droid somthing.

First, T-mobile WILL give you an unlock code for a secondhand G1 if you're not delinquent and have been a customer for 90+ days. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. You have that "feature" every 90 days.
Second, T-mobile tracks G1s (and I'm sure MyTouch3Gs) by IMEI on their network, so they DO KNOW what phone you have. I think you can circumvent the need to buy a data plan, but more than likely you'll receive a "upgrade" message every time your phone tries to download some data. Could just be annoying, but if you're not using data, you might be able to get away with it.
That being said, why buy a smartphone if you're not going to use it as one? I can promise, you won't enjoy your phone to the fullest without data. Sorry.

Thank you everyone for your help.
I know it seems dumb to have a smart phone w/o data, but I don't really wanna pay t-mobile for it. And I can just use wi-fi most of the time.

uansari1 said:
That being said, why buy a smartphone if you're not going to use it as one? I can promise, you won't enjoy your phone to the fullest without data. Sorry.
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Actually, I think that data is a waste of money. I survive and enjoy my android just fine without it. Most places that people visit and commute to everyday has access to WiFi(school,home,work,cafe,etc). There is no need to pay the double bill, unless the said places doesnt have wifi.

Currently getting 3G data WITHOUT a data plan? Great Bug? Reasoning?

Hey all,
i recently hopped over to sprint and now use and EVO instead of my old G1.
After i transitioned, i lent my G1 to a friend on TMobile.
He turned the phone on, logged into his Google account and is now receiving an active 3G signal.
But here is the thing...
He has NO data plan active with TMobile!
More info:
Before i gave him the phone, i took the SIM card out.
I did a full wipe and bought it back to factory settings.
The phone is rooted and it is currently running the final 1.6 Cyanogen ROM (NOT the newer 2.1 build)
I checked my TMo account, which is still technically active since i plan on fully canceling and porting my number to the new EVO next week. I see that i have no activity on the phone for calls or data.
He checked his TMo account and verified with me that he currently has no active data plan.
So what's the deal with that? It seems like some kind of bug that could be working out VERY much in his favor. We are hesitant to call TMo and ask them about this, for fear of him losing his free 3G service.
Any idea how or why this happened? We're both jazzed about it, but are curious if there is something that we might be missing that could entail him winding up paying for it in the long run.
Thanks for your help, all.

geez, i have FREE sms/text messages on att!
i got no ATT sms/text plan!
wait, they charging me 20cents per texts! haha
yea, your friend has no data plan!
they going to charge him by the MB!
i think each mb is like 1$.
so you use 100mb, they going to charge him 100$ ! haha

really? even if he never registered any 3G data plan of any kind?
Once again, this isn't SMS data or the old school 'download' data.
This is straight up 3G Connectivity.
Also keep in mind that on his online account info, it is showing no information regarding 3G data usage.
I remember when i first got the phone, it wouldn't even let me register my google account on the G1 until i called and fully activated 3G service.

bweisholtz said:
Also keep in mind that on his online account info, it is showing no information regarding 3G data usage.
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sometime it takes up to 72 hours for account to update.
just dont use too much internet until the next billing cycle!

netnerd said:
sometime it takes up to 72 hours for account to update.
just dont use too much internet until the next billing cycle!
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cool. thanks for the info.
we dug a little deeper and found that he HAS been monitored as using 0.15mb in the last 3 days. so it looks like TMo does have it on record.
It's very interesting that they have made it default to per-megabyte even if you don't choose to use it.
He'll just have to call and ask them to shut off data altogether.

I plugged my friends tmo sim into a g1 I had and the net worked.. Seems his old free wap web feature worked .. But supposedly tmo will notice and cut you off ..
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You don't need a data plan to use data. He'll be getting charged for the data services he has used. The same applies to SMS - if you don't have a text message plan then you pay for incoming and outgoing SMS.

its pay per use data....ur getting charged for it

WOW you guys are lucky.
Here in Canada, the pay-per-use data rate is 5 cents /kB. That comes out to $51.20/MB

He will get caught using the data and either be charged for the data, or be charged with a data plan on his next bill.
I am in the same situation, where I don't use data, so I downloaded APNdroid from the Marketplace. This will deactivate all data (other than wifi). If he doesn't want to be charged, I strongly suggest he gets this program ASAP!

Apndroid doesn't work with 2.1 roms though, so another alternative is the apn widget by curvefish, it does the job too.

mejorguille said:
Apndroid doesn't work with 2.1 roms though, so another alternative is the apn widget by curvefish, it does the job too.
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I'm running the latest Cyanogen on my G1 and APNdroid works fine.

I am not sure this is a big deal. I chose to go with what was called a flexpay account when I signed up for T-mobile two years ago because I was terrified of overages. When I lost my job, my phone bill was not on the top of my priority list. With flexpay, you can have your account suspended 45 days before it gets cancelled completely. The entire time it was suspended, I had 3G. Full internet use. Very awesome, because I use my Google voice number for about everything. I just was unable to make or receive voice calls or send and receive sms. They can't charge you for something you haven't signed up for.

anyone on ATT having data problems?

I've tried various different ROMs but it seems since installing the latest releases of Froyo I can't seem to get any kind of consistent data speeds any more.
One minute I'm getting 2mb the next I'm getting 200 or no connection at all. I've tried going back to other roms even 2.1 (cyanogen) but still have the issue. I don't know if it's network related or something is messed up on my phone.
I'm going to go back to completely stock everything (including radio) and see if I still have problems but just wanted to post here to see if anyone else has seen issues.
Thanks

Before you resort to messing with your device you might want to call AT&T and ask them whats up with you area. I found that 16 out of 20 towers in my arean were down and that was the problem. I continued to question them about what they were doing about it and found that the answer was nothing. The towers are Verizon owned and they cant do anything about it. They gave me a $280.19 credit on my account which almost pays next months bill.
I saved myself from the trouble and got next months bill paid.
Now, thats killing 2 birds with 1 stone

Yeah I've been having absolutely terrible data all day. I got on here looking for a thread about this. I'm also on AT&T. It has pretty much stopped working completely for the last two hours.
I read there was a nationwide outtage and people thought it was T-Mo but they claimed it was HTC.
Not real sure what the issue is but it's getting annoying.

vwauditech said:
Be you might want to call AT&T
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ya... I ended up calling them... they said not having my IMEI # on my account would cause strange things eventually when the system does it's scans or whatever... they added the # to my account and data seems fine now... well, fine within ATT standards lol

I have been having big issues with the data connection since froyo came out.
Data will get "stuck" on sending and no program (browser, sync, market, ...) will be able to send or receive data ... they all time out or give a network connection error.

The did do an IMEI scan. They shut off my data because I had an iPhone plan.
I just hulked out at the ATT store for half an hour.
I'm still using a GSM carrier because I want to switch phones whenever I please.
They put me on the smartphone data plan. What happens if I want to grab an iPhone 4 and switch back and fourth?
So Angry. Don't Tread on Me!

Well I feel like an asshole. SwitchPro Widget disabled my data connection.
**** it I'm getting an iPhone.

cstcyr said:
Well I feel like an asshole. SwitchPro Widget disabled my data connection.
**** it I'm getting an iPhone.
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f**kin troll...
anyways i always seem to have some issue with AT&T data. mostly 3G. i could be doing fine at one point and then a few minutes later, i cant load pages or do anything data wise and then im forced to turn the 3G off or connect to wifi if its around. $30/month for this crap?

xXJay_RXx said:
f**kin troll...
anyways i always seem to have some issue with AT&T data. mostly 3G. i could be doing fine at one point and then a few minutes later, i cant load pages or do anything data wise and then im forced to turn the 3G off or connect to wifi if its around. $30/month for this crap?
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If you look around, there's a broad array of AT&T data problems the last 2-3 days... So something is going on, and I highly doubt it has anything to do with any hardware, software, etc, except for specific examples of course.
Perhaps all the ipony 4 lusers downloading new fart apps?

Zenoran said:
ya... I ended up calling them... they said not having my IMEI # on my account would cause strange things eventually when the system does it's scans or whatever... they added the # to my account and data seems fine now... well, fine within ATT standards lol
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Crock'o's###e (it's an Irish crock, so there's an "e" at the end). All they need is the SIM card #, or ICCID, to authenticate the user. The IMEI is irrelevant and if the network needs it, it's auto-pulled from the switch (GSM phones always broadcasts the IMEI when they connect, it's how they nab people for the data plans). What the rep is doing with the IMEI is just updating the billing system, not anything network related (again, since the network already has your info). Now...what happens is that whenever you change the SIM or IMEI in the billing system, it orders the network to push out an OTA SIM update. There is,however, an option to simply send the OTA without fudging with the numbers.

Oddly enough, I ran the "mark the spot" application and at the end, it asked me if I wanted to run a diagnostic test. I selected yes and then about 10 minutes later it sent me a free text message acknowledging that they received my issue.
Now i'm testing my speeds and everything seems back to normal!
I'm getting consistent 1.5 up and 1.5 down whereas I was getting < 100 each way a couple of hours ago.
I'm in MD btw.

ATnTdude said:
Crock'o's###e (it's an Irish crock, so there's an "e" at the end). All they need is the SIM card #, or ICCID, to authenticate the user. The IMEI is irrelevant and if the network needs it, it's auto-pulled from the switch (GSM phones always broadcasts the IMEI when they connect, it's how they nab people for the data plans). What the rep is doing with the IMEI is just updating the billing system, not anything network related (again, since the network already has your info). Now...what happens is that whenever you change the SIM or IMEI in the billing system, it orders the network to push out an OTA SIM update. There is,however, an option to simply send the OTA without fudging with the numbers.
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Ya I've always been thinking the same thing but was rather desperate to get better results after a week of poor performance and, surprisingly, after updating the IMEI # I was getting full speeds again. It could be purely coincidental but I guess there's absolutely nothing wrong with having the correct IMEI on file.
ATT has been sucking lately. I don't know if it's the froyo radio or what but I have been experience a lot of lag when the phone has been off for a bit then trying to initiate a data connection. ATT's data network can be absolutely awesome or absolutely SUCK, depending on the time of day and network utilization. I think I'm ready to jump ship to sprint (apparently they've really cleaned up their network problems in central ohio) or verizon but the Nexus has me stuck to ATT until something significantly better comes a long to switch into.
Too bad all newer phones on other networks all have those craptastic sudo layers like sense and blur... that crap and the "personal touch" of the carrier to android releases always ends up in it being a small eternity before you actually get the latest android. This is why the Nexus stays in my hand... I sure hope someone else releases a vanilla android phone that's support as widely as the Nexus.

khaytsus said:
If you look around, there's a broad array of AT&T data problems the last 2-3 days... So something is going on, and I highly doubt it has anything to do with any hardware, software, etc, except for specific examples of course.
Perhaps all the ipony 4 lusers downloading new fart apps?
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lol +1
but yea i hope it has nothing to do with hardware. i was just fine with my nexus one using 3G up until a few days ago. i hope this is AT&T's way of fixing their 3G. this better get cleared up soon cuz im sooo ready to jump onto Verizon's Droid X or jump on T-Mobile's Galaxy S (while still being able to use my sim card on my nexus). i always had issues with AT&T and i just tried to ignore it while i was on the iPhone 3Gs/Nexus One but now this is ridiculous. i have had a few nights were i would get no data service at all. i was scared as sh*t thinking i messed something up while i was flashing (i happened to have flashed something the night i had no data) but when i woke up the next morning, i had data again. im almost fed up with AT&T. im paying $175 a month for two lines and this is the crap i get?

iboj007 said:
Oddly enough, I ran the "mark the spot" application and at the end, it asked me if I wanted to run a diagnostic test. I selected yes and then about 10 minutes later it sent me a free text message acknowledging that they received my issue.
Now i'm testing my speeds and everything seems back to normal!
I'm getting consistent 1.5 up and 1.5 down whereas I was getting < 100 each way a couple of hours ago.
I'm in MD btw.
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what does that do? does it help AT&T find the spotty service areas?

[Q] I have tmobile, with Data plan, but does not work on my G1

So I've done plenty of searching, enough so that I was able to unlock my phone without the data working, rooted my phone, flashed and modded it, successfully running newest Biffmod.
That being said, i'm 100000% sure I have a working data plan, my plan is unlimited everything.
Works fine in any of my other phones, Dash 3G, HTC HD2, Unlocked Samsung blackjack i607.. The difference, those are all windows mobile phones?
But the HTC HD2 Dual boots android 2.2 froyo and data works there.
Yup, same sim I'm talking about, same plan, just different phones.
Any Idea why my data plan is not working with the G1? Am I doing something wrong? It worked when i FIRST got this phone (ordered it off ebay not that long ago to play with).. After factory reset/wipe before modding is when it all went sour.
Was stuck on log in screen so I had to do the work around to get into the phone, obviously not with Biffmod I can skip.. But I cant use market place, check e-mail, ANYTHING data related. Yet my Icon says 4 bars, 3G and I even see the "up" and "down" data xfer arrows giving me activity.
It's as if it's "there" just not working.
Any help would be great appreciated, I plan to go to T-mobile and hopefully one of the people there will actually have some tech savvy.. Wishful thinking.
Long story short, I just want my data to work. Please, and thank you.

Do a search on here for the correct APN setings for your provider.
edit: here's the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475564

Read the thread, it's for ATT users trying to use a T-Mobile phone.
The issue is that I actually have T-mobile.

I'm fairly sure I saw the apn settings for t-mo in there too. That's probably what you should be checking first.
Sent from my G1 using XDA App

Just google Tmobile's US apn settings or grab them from another of your devices, then it will work.

Perfect, I'll give that a shot when I get home from work today, thanks for all the help so far.

Nexus 6 5.1.1- Cannot Use Data While In Phone Call

Nexus 6 not multitasking?
I just purchased a Nexus 6 that I'm using on Verizon. The phone is completely stock(5.1.1). I've noticed that when I'm on a phone call, I'm unable to use Google maps or anything else that involves data. I was also listening to Sirius radio via the ap. When I tried reading a text, the Sirius player would stop playing. It's as if I'm unable to mulitask at all with the Nexus. Is this the case with this particular phone? I never had an issue with my Note 3? Thanks for any input...

Do you have advanced calling on your account? If so then it should work as it will use 3G data when your using VoLTE.
It's free, so if that's not already on the account add it and then it will work.

iRub1Out said:
Do you have advanced calling on your account? If so then it should work as it will use 3G data when your using VoLTE.
It's free, so if that's not already on the account add it and then it will work.
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I have no idea. I never had a problem before the Nexus so I assume I do. I'll check though. Thanks!

Yup - Just log into the account and go to features - add that feature and then on the phone under cellular networks check the "advanced calling" thing (it might turn on by itself) - then it's for sure working.

why does verizon do tbeir system like this? lol. for nearly every other network, once you connect, everything works properly. oh well, i guess thats one reason that im not with verizon

simms22 said:
why does verizon do tbeir system like this? lol. for nearly every other network, once you connect, everything works properly. oh well, i guess thats one reason that im not with verizon
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Because not every phone has this ability - so why would they offer it or implement it on devices that can't use it? Then they would expect it to work, but since the device can't, it doesnt work - then the customer is all pissed. I agree that it's kind of dumb that you have to add it to the account prior to it working on the phone - I feel like if the phone can do it, and it's free anyway, why wouldn't it just add it from the git-go? That's kinda stupid.
They don't do it any weird or unusual way. The devices that CAN use it, have the option to use it, those that dont...dont.

simms22 said:
why does verizon do tbeir system like this? lol. for nearly every other network, once you connect, everything works properly.
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Because not every phone has this ability - so why would they offer it or implement it on devices that can't use it? Then they would expect it to work, but since the device can't, it doesnt work - then the customer is all pissed. I agree that it's kind of dumb that you have to add it to the account prior to it working on the phone - I feel like if the phone can do it, and it's free anyway, why wouldn't it just add it from the git-go? That's kinda stupid.
They don't do it any weird or unusual way. The devices that CAN use it, have the option to use it, those that dont...dont.
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they could do it the way GSM carriers do - if you have a device that supports that capability, it works. If not, it doesn't work. User doesn't have to go change any settings, or call carrier to change something on account etc.

iRub1Out said:
Because not every phone has this ability - so why would they offer it or implement it on devices that can't use it? Then they would expect it to work, but since the device can't, it doesnt work - then the customer is all pissed. I agree that it's kind of dumb that you have to add it to the account prior to it working on the phone - I feel like if the phone can do it, and it's free anyway, why wouldn't it just add it from the git-go? That's kinda stupid.
They don't do it any weird or unusual way. The devices that CAN use it, have the option to use it, those that dont...dont.
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every phone does have the ability, just not on verizon. my first smartphone i bought in 2003, and have been using data on voice calls with tmobile since then. the problem is that verizon isnt a gsm carrier but a cdma carrier. sprint has the same issue with vouce and data(at least verizon offers Volte), but not as much as verizon. att and tmobile never had the issue. many phones dont have this issue on verizon anymore because now they add two different radios to verizon phones, to catch a voice signal, and a data signal. on tmobile and sprint, they have one radio, because you can have voice and data on a gsm provider.

I was just speaking on a per-verizon service situation - since that's what the OP has. I know it has worked for a long time on other carriers.

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I was just speaking on a per-verizon service situation - since that's what the OP has. I know it has worked for a long time on other carriers.
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ahh.. well then it makes more sense :angel:

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Yup - Just log into the account and go to features - add that feature and then on the phone under cellular networks check the "advanced calling" thing (it might turn on by itself) - then it's for sure working.
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I just activated it, thanks!!!!!