Could someone give me the potential disadvantages of overclocking my rooted NC.
It is working well now.
Would I have to redo anything I have already done.
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Other than possibly shorter battery life? No downside at all...
Slightly shorter battery life. Create some profiles in setcpu and you won't even notice it.
The backside of the nook color will get warmer.
Could you tell an Android newbie what SETCPU is how to use it.
I'm a Windows and DOS expert but know nothing about Android systems.
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slightly lower battery life.. but otherwise, non really.. and it makes a huge difference.
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leorob said:
Could you tell an Android newbie what SETCPU is how to use it.
I'm a Windows and DOS expert but know nothing about Android systems.
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There you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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The way overclocking my original Touch helped with the lags due to the TouchFlo cube got me thinking: is it possible to overclock the Diamond beyond 528MHz? I heard before that Qualcomm processors were un-overclockable? Is this still valid? If not, how can I overclock my Diamond and what are the risks?
Blimey, how much hotter do we want the Diamond to get!
Methinks the battery isn't really up to it either...
It is hot but we need to acknowledge that it does lag sometimes.
A better battery is coming out in the near future (1350mAh) so I'm guessing we should consider overclocking.
I think the Processor is plenty fast enough . Its the operating system and a plugin that is causing the lag .
If you run the device without the 3d pluggin its very quick. Its just that the operating system is enhanced to the hardware but the pluggin is not as intergrated so will never run as fast
Count me in on anything that has the word:
Overclocking Like my insanely smoothly running Overclocked Vista Ultimate Machine!
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I think the Processor is plenty fast enough . Its the operating system and a plugin that is causing the lag .
If you run the device without the 3d pluggin its very quick. Its just that the operating system is enhanced to the hardware but the pluggin is not as intergrated so will never run as fast
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I understand that if WM 6.1 runs smoothly on a 201MHz TI-OMAP processor, it will fly on a 528MHz processor. The point is to get TouchFlo3D to integrate that greatly with the remainder of the OS since it is the most appealing feature of the device. I think that upping the processor to say 650MHz would largely facilitate this.
no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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I'm waiting for this option as well
is it ppossible to oc the touch diamond? and what program do i need?
i would really like to oc it!!
Bunch of fools :/ Overclocking a phone that already has overheating issues AND battery life issues.
Am I correct in thinking that there are other devices with the same processor running at 400mhz, if so the speed must be scalable? I agree that the diamond is quick already but if the speed was scalable like battery status with the TI omap I had in my old Artemis, then the battery should last longer since usually it would be running underclocked.
i will buy external bat. is there any program for oc touch diamond
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no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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Valid point. I guess the software that will overclock the Diamond will also allow underclocking so the goal is the same.
ljames28 said:
Bunch of fools :/ Overclocking a phone that already has overheating issues AND battery life issues.
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An extended battery is on the way and I haven't encountered any overheating issues yet. You better check your facts before calling everyone fools.
Apparently there isn't any such software available given that nobody has made suggestions concerning the availabilty of such software yet.
http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
so no software for now?
do you think it will be avilable one day?
I hope so but I think the problem is that most Qualcomm processors have fast enough clocks so the incentive for developers to look into the problem isn't that great.
Actually, how much resources are required to develop such an application? We could start raising funds to that end.
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http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
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Yeah. I know about this one but I also heard that GPS doesn't work well when it's on.
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are you joking I bought Diamond because of dims and weight...If I ll want thick basta*d I ll buy HTC touch Pro muhehe or better stay with my Kaiser
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I could have sworn that the processor in the diamond is UNDERCLOCKED as standard, and does not even run at 528Mhz..
If true, probably a decision to conserve battery since 900mAH is bugger all.
Also, again if this is true, you could probably assume it could at least be clocked to 528Mhz which would speed it up, at least make a difference from what were all used to.
Even with TouchFLO3D disabled, I find the Diamond to be not as responsive as other (much older) WinMo devices, this just does not seem to make any sense. An underclocked CPU would explain a lot of things, IMO.
The question is, how can we find out the truth?
with some software like cpu-z for pc.
are there programs for oc other htc products?
I was thinking about doin this but I have NO idea what would be a good/safe amount to undervolt/underclock. The main reason i want to do this is to get some more juice outta my battery but I'm not sure what a good amount is. Is there a way to keep performance and overall "snappiness" of the phone about the same and still get a good gain of battery life? Also is there anyway i can damage my phone by doing this? Sorry if these are stupid questions but i wanna be safe
I'm on CM 6 RC if that makes any difference. Thanks
Anyone? Using SetCPU btw
I used an 800mV kernel for a while and had SetCPU @ 806mhz -- battery life was insane.
SetCPU doesn't make a difference in battery life, it can only shorten it. The kernal already has the best settings for CPU speed built in.
The main function of SetCPU is to overclock.
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SetCPU doesn't make a difference in battery life, it can only shorten it. The kernal already has the best settings for CPU speed built in.
The main function of SetCPU is to overclock.
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Ah did not know that thank you
So with that in mind, is there any kernel you would recommend? Or am i just better off with what's already installed
Stock (cyan's) works fine for me. Try them and find out which works best for you.
Thankfully people stopped releasing their own kernals in masses... but they were replaced by winzip roms...
Hi, so after cm rooting i noticed there is also an ext4 upgrade...is this worth it and will I have data lose during the change? Im on 2.3.3 and am wondering if it is really worth it! Ed
are you kidding me?
besides that this post should not even be in this forum (try Q & A) there are hundreds of other posts and threads discussing this topic if you only use your -(0-0)- !
Yes and no
It may have some advantages but as for what I'm not sure but as for nay major advantages I would say no. I'm still using EXT2 and my benchmarkes are still 1900+. I've tried almost all the other lagfixes and found no real advantage. The only thing I hate about custom kernels with lagfix is the secondary samsung splash screens and custom splash screen. They kill the post time.
I would say it isn't as worth it as what people say. First thing most people do after converting their filesystem is run quadrant. It's possible that improved quadrant scores don't translate to real world performance though.
Even worse, running quadrant actually engages the placebo effect so you walk in with a more positive impression. Meanwhile, I don't recall ever seeing anyone from the EXT4/EXT2 i9000 community running blind tests, and neither development community has actually shown any evidence formal testing has been performed. All the arguments seem to be based around quadrant and PC testing. If methods like this were applied to clinical testing, every drug would pass
Honestly, give both a try, but do it blindly.
Why Quadrant may be wrong
This is just a bit of background why Quadrant's scores may not reflect real life performance. Until we check the actual ratio's of Quadrant, and compare with actual usage ratio's though, we can't identify how "real" it's scores are.
Consider a benchmark which produces 1 final score. It may be calculated by:
[MAX TIME - Time to read 1000mb] + [Max time - time to write 1000MB]. In this case, both scores contribute to 50% of the final score, which can be worth 2x MAX Time.
Scenario 1: Time to read/write is both the same
Scenario 2: Read time is 1% shorter than Scenario 1, but write time is 1% longer. Both will have the same score in Quadrant..
Scenario 3: Read time is 5% longer than Scenario 1, but write time is 50% shorter. Scenario 3 will get the best score
Which one is ACTUALLY faster though. The benchmark-toting individuals will claim Scenario 3 is faster, because of the score. HOWEVER, that may be incorrect. Consider the following:
If a user reads 100x more data than they write:
1) Clearly, faster read scores are more important.
2) The BEST filesystem will be Scenario 2, despite being equal last.
3) Scenario 1 will be mid place
4) The scenario with the best score, will actually have the WORST performance.
5) A drop in 1% read performance would need a HUGE increase in write performance to actually be faster.
Until we have an idea of how accurate Quadrant REALLY is, run your own tests, and do so without knowing which filesystem is running. High quadrant scores may boost your e-penis size, but as you can see, it is theoretically possible for the scores which are produced to score slower performing filesystems more highly than faster ones. Disappointingly though, a decreasing number of users/developers at XDA these days are actually interested in the truth, and simply in not being wrong.
Even worse, the community for some reason seems VERY anti-RFS, and wont give it a chance regardless. It might be a LOT better than it used to be. Either way, it seems to be good enough for me.
Ignore the theatrics and run a blind test. That's the only way to determine what is ACTUALLY faster.
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Hi, so after cm rooting i noticed there is also an ext4 upgrade...is this worth it and will I have data lose during the change? Im on 2.3.3 and am wondering if it is really worth it! Ed
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I guess you mean CF root right? Will just answer the data loose question. No you shouldnt. But do a backup before. Its fast and easy (if you are on CF root that is)
If its worth depends on you? You experience any lag on rfs? Phone slow?
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It may have some advantages but as for what I'm not sure but as for nay major advantages I would say no. I'm still using EXT2 and my benchmarkes are still 1900+. I've tried almost all the other lagfixes and found no real advantage. The only thing I hate about custom kernels with lagfix is the secondary samsung splash screens and custom splash screen. They kill the post time.
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@ramrod54 , where did you get ext2 support on JVK? And what the?
What samsung splash screens and custom splash? What rom and kernel are you on? And what lagfixes? And we both know quadrant score doesnt matter does it ?
Yes, it's worth it. Some things (Android Market, Gmail) works really MUCH faster then on rfs.
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Yes, it's worth it. Some things (Android Market, Gmail) works really MUCH faster then on rfs.
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Hrm, I've never noticed a difference. Market is slow on any room, hell market.android.com is slow too. Gmail always worked fast for me, on any rom.
Personally, I don't see or feel the point in using anything but rfs, but I suppose if someone has half a bazillion apps installed, then maybe an alternative filesystem might be better.
I say try it. If you notice a difference, good for you. If you don't, then stick with rfs.
What about battery performance ? from what I have read, battery performance is also better with RFS.
I always use ex4, its not as needed now on gingerbread but I just prefer the file system...it is better than RFS...but RFS has improved a great deal so you may not noticed that much difference, the rom may become a little smoother..You wont get data lose because of ex4, maybe the way the kernel is built...dont forget that 2.3.3 gingerbread is still beta and without the source code for the kernel you cant expect great things yet, although chainfire has done some amazing work and now we can change the file system using his app....works really well.
Also regarding battery, the difference in performance is such a small margin that its not even an issue.
What alot of people aren't aware of is that the Nexus S for example uses ex4 file system as default straight out of the box
Its not just a lagfix for the galaxy s, its a very good file system too...
Just a side note on Quadrant, ex4, ex2 will trick the app...if you buy the pro version, you will see how much the file system stretches on the bar...Quadrant is more for fun....or HTC
Think it´s worth cause rfs slow down your system after a while
Hey I'm new to this undervolting thing. I believe I just undervolted by -25 globally using kernel auditor but my mV numbers in the boxes don't match the ones in this video(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8THaPMp2ao). For example my bottom box 1040mV but the video's is 1010mV. Can someone please tell me what I did wrong and how to fix it?
Not everyone's voltages are necessarily the same.
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Not everyone's voltages are necessarily the same.
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is there anyway to tell how much you've undervolted by?
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is there anyway to tell how much you've undervolted by?
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If the app doesnt tell you, Wipe data on the app and reboot. Stock voltages are applied every reboot, until the app applies custom.
find out what you devices bin number is, then youll know what voltage chart your device should use.
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find out what you devices bin number is, then youll know what voltage chart your device should use.
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Do all custom kernels pay attention to the bin for voltages?
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Do all custom kernels pay attention to the bin for voltages?
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Hey I've been experimenting on my kernel mostly based off another youtube video and i've been getting systemui closes after I reboot. I know it is either lmt launcher or kernel auditor that has been causing it. Do you think kernel auditor is the culprit?
it has something to do with lmt . I figured it out.
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Do all custom kernels pay attention to the bin for voltages?
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as far as i know, yes.
Undervolting isn't going to do much of anything for long term battery life. CPU's are very minimal battery users for most day-to-day operations, so your actual battery life gains are going to be minimal, <5%, if you notice anything at all.
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Undervolting isn't going to do much of anything for long term battery life. CPU's are very minimal battery users for most day-to-day operations, so your actual battery life gains are going to be minimal, <5%, if you notice anything at all.
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I'd say even less than 5%, more along the lines of less than 1%. but its decent for lowering temps slightly as well. me, I dont undervolt at all, yet see from 5.5-6.5 hours screen on.
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I'd say even less than 5%, more along the lines of less than 1%. but its decent for lowering temps slightly as well. me, I dont undervolt at all, yet see from 5.5-6.5 hours screen on.
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Because you sir, are a wizard.
Hi guys
I was pondering weather or not to lower the resolution on my Nokia 8 in the favour of a better life? Has anyone made an attempt ? You think it will make a difference ? You can do it with with root and without apparently. Food for thoughts, ideas comments are all welcomed.
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Hi guys
I was pondering weather or not to lower the resolution on my Nokia 8 in the favour of a better life? Has anyone made an attempt ? You think it will make a difference ? You can do it with with root and without apparently. Food for thoughts, ideas comments are all welcomed.
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I've done it/am doing it.
Day to day there isn't much increase in battery life (that I noticed anyway).
I game a fair bit though and have noticed the battery lasts a bit longer with the display set to a lower resolution.
I haven't measured/documented any of this so your milage may vary.
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I've done it/am doing it.
Day to day there isn't much increase in battery life (that I noticed anyway).
I game a fair bit though and have noticed the battery lasts a bit longer with the display set to a lower resolution.
I haven't measured/documented any of this so your milage may vary.
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How are you doing it?
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How are you doing it?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/how-to/change-display-resolution-2k-to-fhd-t3836974