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Any chance at getting a flashable dual boot package with both stock 1.1.0 and NF or HC?
I cannot get ADB to work with my NC (tried all the tips and tricks I could find) except adb wireless, but I want to go dual boot with a non-rooted stock, so kinda hard to d/l the wireless adb (and not sure if it would work anyway).
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Any chance at getting a flashable dual boot package with both stock 1.1.0 and NF or HC?
I cannot get ADB to work with my NC (tried all the tips and tricks I could find) except adb wireless, but I want to go dual boot with a non-rooted stock, so kinda hard to d/l the wireless adb (and not sure if it would work anyway).
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You must be rooted to use adb thats one of the things rooting unlocks. You could just leave it stock and use a bootable NF or HC sd card.
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You must be rooted to use adb thats one of the things rooting unlocks. You could just leave it stock and use a bootable NF or HC sd card.
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I rather like running of the internal. Did a dual boot with HC and unrooted stock last weekend and it was ok, but not ideal.
I know you have to be rooted to use ADB, I can't get ADB to work, so I figured I would ask if it's possible to dual boot with an unrooted stock image and either NF or HC off the eMMC. I don't mind if it had rooted stock if that is the only way to dual boot, just thought it would be pointless to root with hc or nf loaded up.
Ok, so let's say I use ADB Wireless on a stock rooted NC running 1.1.0. Can I create the necessary partitions to allow a dual boot of HC? If so, How? Is there an easier way to do this (Root explorer, terminal emulator, etc)?
I put NF on my SD card for the time being, but cannot mount the SD partition in windows either by directly pluggin in the card or via USB on the Nook, so it's kinda a pain to work with. i also don't want to lose the stock nook OS for mag subscriptions, reading kids books, etc.
Does anyone know how to test if a bootable sdcard with nookie honeycomb actually works before you test it out on the nook color? thnx
btw i used the process that was on this site http://theunlockr.com/2011/02/07/how-to-load-honeycomb-android-3-0-on-the-nook-color-usd-method/
Not sure why you need to test it before putting it in the nook. If you're worried about doing any harm to the nook it's really not possible. Just put the card in and try to boot. If it doesn't boot take the card out and boot up normally, no harm no foul.
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Not sure why you need to test it before putting it in the nook. If you're worried about doing any harm to the nook it's really not possible. Just put the card in and try to boot. If it doesn't boot take the card out and boot up normally, no harm no foul.
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I second this. By default, all the Main Roms for Nookie Froyo and Nookie Honeycomb have no features enabled that will touch your Nook Color. The only thing it touches on the NC is the Cache Partition in order to prevent too many writes to the SD and to also speed things up. Anything done there won't screw up your NC in a Million years and Switching back to Stock and doing a few things will wipe any evidence. Or if really paranoid you can Flash back to Factory to ensure all is wiped.
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thnx u guys, But i have another problem. i succesfully installed the honeycomb and got it to work on the nook color. But when I go to my computer with the sd card plugged in, it says that i only have 115 mb of data on the card. I have an 8 gb card. It's not left on the card, it says 115 mb out of 115 mb of data, even after i deleted everything. Anybody know how to restore it back to the 8 gb data amount thnxx
NookColor Format and partition your SD card back to a usable state
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Since the OP seems to have been answered, I'd like to piggy back a bit
Been doing some reading on the forums and I have started to vision myself getting in to the nook color honeycomb idea.
But a few questions first...
How well has it worked for anyone who has tried, is it a daily driver yet or too many issues? I have a SGS captivate so I am not too worried about having to mess with it before it works and I can use my phone to access email and all that.
But is it quick and snappy or will I feel like i'm using an underpowered device after using my phone.
And battery life, is it good, acceptable, or what?
Sorry if these have been answered somewhere else i tried to find the answers, but it's getting late and I have work yet to do tonight.
I installed it to emmc..over clocked it's still sluggish. Kinda cool but not a keeper to me.my droid x blows it away on performance. I will be back on phiremod beta 2 soon. Honeycomb is fun to tinker but not primetime. Remember it is not from aosp..missing features. It is amazing how good it isconsidering.
Well...its very promising for being in the early stages of development
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Will i still have honeycomb on my NC if i format it?
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jlt220 said:
Since the OP seems to have been answered, I'd like to piggy back a bit
Been doing some reading on the forums and I have started to vision myself getting in to the nook color honeycomb idea.
But a few questions first...
How well has it worked for anyone who has tried, is it a daily driver yet or too many issues? I have a SGS captivate so I am not too worried about having to mess with it before it works and I can use my phone to access email and all that.
But is it quick and snappy or will I feel like i'm using an underpowered device after using my phone.
And battery life, is it good, acceptable, or what?
Sorry if these have been answered somewhere else i tried to find the answers, but it's getting late and I have work yet to do tonight.
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i use honeycomb as a daily driver and if you install V2 on the emmc from samuallhaff(not 100% sure of his username off the top of my head) it runs smooth and it is really clean
i get the stock all day battery life(mainly it just sits in my bag when im in class but i have wifi always on so i dont disconnect from my schools wifi) and web browsing is amazing(it doesnt have flash though not a deal breaker though imo)
just dont use live wall papers and set CPU because they drain battery life faster and they diminish performance big time
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I installed it to emmc..over clocked it's still sluggish. Kinda cool but not a keeper to me.my droid x blows it away on performance. I will be back on phiremod beta 2 soon. Honeycomb is fun to tinker but not primetime. Remember it is not from aosp..missing features. It is amazing how good it isconsidering.
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if you have setCPU or a live wallpaper installed on honeycomb it diminishes performance by 100%
i noticed this performance boost after i uninstalled setCPU and removed my live wallpaper from my honeycomb install and so far it has been great
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i use honeycomb as a daily driver and if you install V2 on the emmc from samuallhaff(not 100% sure of his username off the top of my head) it runs smooth and it is really clean
i get the stock all day battery life(mainly it just sits in my bag when im in class but i have wifi always on so i dont disconnect from my schools wifi) and web browsing is amazing(it doesnt have flash though not a deal breaker though imo)
just dont use live wall papers and set CPU because they drain battery life faster and they diminish performance big time
if you have setCPU or a live wallpaper installed on honeycomb it diminishes performance by 100%
i noticed this performance boost after i uninstalled setCPU and removed my live wallpaper from my honeycomb install and so far it has been great
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I will remove set cpu and report back. I thought it was needed for oc.
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Will i still have honeycomb on my NC if i format it?
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I just realized that you are running HC from your SD card.
No, if you format that SD card, you lose HC. It actually mentions that in the procedure you linked in your original post.
The reason you only see 115MB on the card when you mount it on your Windows computer is because Windows can only see the first partition, the boot partition, that was written to that SD card as part of the procedure you followed. The rest of the space is taken up by partitions Windows can't see without help.
So if you want to continue to run HC off the SD card you have to dedicate that SD card just for running HC.
SD Card Partitions
while installing the image 3 patitions will be written on your sd-card.
1) root partition
2) honeycomb
3) fat32-partition
to use the full size of the sd-card use a partition manager to extend the fat32-partition.
installed apps can than transferred to the fat32-partition
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I just realized that you are running HC from your SD card.
No, if you format that SD card, you lose HC. It actually mentions that in the procedure you linked in your original post.
The reason you only see 115MB on the card when you mount it on your Windows computer is because Windows can only see the first partition, the boot partition, that was written to that SD card as part of the procedure you followed. The rest of the space is taken up by partitions Windows can't see without help.
So if you want to continue to run HC off the SD card you have to dedicate that SD card just for running HC.
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i was wondering if i put honeycomb on my nook color, not on the sdcard, how would i do it. The instructions on that site only says how to make a bootable sd card. And i was using HC on a level 4 sd card and it said that u need a level 6. But i was still able to get it to run. The honeycomb on the sd card level 4 was pretty slow. i was wondering if i got it on my NC, would it be faster. If it would, can someone show me how?
Just follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071
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I will remove set cpu and report back. I thought it was needed for oc.
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Nope lots of lag still. Its ok not complaining. Lots of fc in dolphin too. Back to phiremod 2.2 for awhile.
You have to remember that the Honeycomb that was Ported is the Preview Release, think Demo version. It wasn't ported from (pretty much)scratch like Froyo was. It is more of a Rom hack. For a better performing version we have to wait for Honeycomb's Official Full release. In perspective, it's amazing how much deeper-blue got done with just the Preview image.
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while installing the image 3 patitions will be written on your sd-card.
1) root partition
2) honeycomb
3) fat32-partition
to use the full size of the sd-card use a partition manager to extend the fat32-partition.
installed apps can than transferred to the fat32-partition
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Not picking on you but it's actually 4 partitions.
1=Boot (Basically redirects to the Android on the SD)
2=System (Holds the main OS files of Honeycomb)
3=Data (Where all you're settings and other data are)
4=SDcard (This partition is used as a stand in for a Physical External SDcard)
Also the easiest/simplest way to access the 2, 3, and 4 partitions is to use linux. Burn a LiveCD if you don't want to Install, although Ubuntu can be Installed without Partitioning or other such normal 2nd OS needs. Just get the Windows installer from http://ubuntu.com
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SD Card and Honeycomb 3.0 v4 image
I've been looking for an answer throughout the forums on this question but can't seem to find anything. The problem: I used the Honeycomb v4 image with WinImage. The SD card was originally 8 GB. The image file is 4 GB with approximately 600 MB or so of free space. Missing: 4 GB that was on the card.
1. Can I use a utility under Windows to get the free space allocated on the SD card that remains? If so, how?
2. Is there an option with WinImage to allocate the additional space on the SD card as free space and include it as part of the image that is being written to the SD card?
3. If I need to restore my SD card back to 8 GB, can that be done in Windows Explorer (not sure that Windows will pick up the full 8 GB as I haven't tried that yet).
Thanks.
Ohh, you have that problem. Don't know where you've been looking but that has been asked and answered many times. The problem is that when you install Froyo or Honey to the SD it makes 4 partitions like I listed above, but Windows can only see the First Partition and only Formats the First partition. The easiest way to fix is to put it in UnRooted Stock and Format it from Settings. If you don't have that you can Burn a Linux or GParted Live CD and Format it from their.
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I would have posted this question on the developer board, but I am too much of a noob. I am wary that my question will sound like jibberish, but I am really confused about dual booting and the special files that are necessary.
I am using rooted 1.1 stock and have got it customized about as far as I can go. I want to run CM7, but the one app that keeps me tied to the Eclaire OS is the original B&N reader app that allows downloading of magazines and newspapers. From what I gather, the standard Market Nook app does not allow magazines and newspapers to be downloaded. I saw that some on this board are trying to port the original stock reader to Froyo and CM7, but they are not there yet.
Because I want to keep 1.1 and still try out CM7, I am looking to either boot CM7 off an SD card or dual boot 1.1 and CM7 in eMMC. I have yet to see a solution for booting CM7 off SD, so I have turned my attention to dual booting.
There are threads and files on the development board that allow for dual booting, but I can't quite figure them out. If possible, I would like to have the current 1.1 placed in the "alternative" partition (Power+n) and CM7 in the main partition (Power). Here are my questions:
Can I dual boot my existing 1.1 and the latest version of CM7 (14)?
Can I do this without any specially modded ROMs?
Does running the partitioning program destroy the existing 1.1 setup?
There is also a "script" to move the current setup to the new partition. Does that mean that my exising 1.1 setup will be left intact after the partitioning and can be moved without any alteration?
If so, do I need a special version of CM7 or will it automatially flash to the proper partition?
Assuming this is all possible, how do I use adb with all of the partitions?
And lastly, is CWM still usable in this type of arrangement?
I am sorry for all of these questions and I hope they kind of make sense. Thanks very much in advance for any help.
All good questions. I can only answer number 3. the partitioning zip will not destroy the BN install. Just makes the free space on the emmc smaller. Well it does more then that, but that is what you'll notice when using the BN install. I successfully used it to dual boot with HC. There is a bug with CWM 3005 that you'll run into if you follow the HC dual boot instructions from addictivetips. Use CWM 3010 or look for the shell script you have to ADB onto the CWM to allow CWM 3005 work with the dual boot script.
I'd love the answers to the other questions as well.
This is the fastest and easiest way I found to Dual Boot. Works flawlessly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941883
Hi all,
After reading all the great stuff about the NC recently, CM7, Phiremod and the honeycomb releases Ive convinced a mate of mine in California who's visting the UK to bring me one over to tinker with..
Now.. After doing some research Im overwhelmed with info and thought Id ask for "up to date" pointers..
1. Is there a straightforward guide to rooting and installing the NC, as I live in the UK Im not fussed about the original NC rom. I've seen Cyanogenmods wiki entry http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide is this the best approach?
2. Which rom is best? Plain CM7, Phiremod or Honeycomb as posted by deeper blue?
3. Any other pointers?
Sorry for such basic questions, im just overloaded and not 100% sure which is the best process to take.
thanks all in advance
Angelo
Take a look in the stickies, there are comprehensive guides to root....just make sure you're using the correct version. If your mate is buying a brand new one for you, you'll most likely need the version for rooting with partitions. I have used all 3 of the roms you mentioned and my personal preference is CM. Phiremod is just a heavily themed version of CM and the honeycomb build is ok, but it lacks some features and is still a bit buggy because the source code has not been released for honeycomb
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If you decide on CM7 (which I personally recommend), I would look for "How to Install CynaogenMod 7 on the Nook Color" (can't post links) on YouTube. I personally found it very useful. If something seems off, make sure you look at the description and read some user comments. With the way this guy explains it it's practically idiot proof and it's unlikely you'll mess anything up.
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Thanks Guys,
I've been doing more reading and yeah looks straightforward..
Considering Im not interested in the core B&N OS, I was thinking of installing CM7 to the internal memory and then perhaps installing Honeycomb (deeperblue version) on a memory stick to "play with".
From what I can tell the HC port is nice as a toy but not robust enough considering HC hasnt been released to AOSP.
Makes sense?
If you are looking to 'play with' honeycomb on a MicroSD install, check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
You get Honeycomb and Phiremod in a dual-boot image tailored for a MicroSD install.
Read through the thread and see if it's to your taste.
For the most usable ROM, go with CM7. Just follow this guide in this post. Very simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post.
After you get this running, you can read up a little more and create a SD card w/ Honeycomb or Phiremod to play around with. But CM7 is the most stable out there (well, I guess Phiremod is good to, because it is a customized CM7).
Good Luck.
Use CM7, it's the best for now.
HC is beauty but still a lot of work to be done.
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For the most usable ROM, go with CM7. Just follow this guide in this post. Very simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post.
After you get this running, you can read up a little more and create a SD card w/ Honeycomb or Phiremod to play around with. But CM7 is the most stable out there (well, I guess Phiremod is good to, because it is a customized CM7).
Good Luck.
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+1 for this guide!
"The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post."
For some reason I thought that statement was obsoleted, am I wrong?
It was valid if you have v1.2 NC and flashing with CwM Recovery prior to v3.2.xx.
But since the instructions do indicate using v3.2.0.1 CwM, then why care about blue-dot or not since it has been taken care off unless v3.2.x.x not properly does the job.
Maybe because you have a choice in partition schemes?
You really will want to repartition the new nook. 1 gb is a very small partition for your programs. 5gb works much better and the change is fairly painless.
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IFLATLINEI said:
Maybe because you have a choice in partition schemes?
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That's a reasonable reason but again, it shouldn't be highlighted in RED, ORANGE at best
In fact, since it's a choice of good, it should be in GREEN.
thanks guys
Thanks guys, Im in awe with all the feedback and comments this thread is getting..
yes, Ive received the NC today and its charging Also doing loads and loads of reading
My nook does have a bluedot so my partitions are 5gb Data/1Gb Media.
I'll probably leave it like so, considering CWM supports this now its ok, and put most of my media on an external 16gb microsd card..
If Im right I can still install apps into the 5gb partition right?
Also , if I understand it correctly I can actually install CM7 onto a microSD and simply boot from this right ,without rooting/installing CWM... ?
Angelo
asantaga said:
If Im right I can still install apps into the 5gb partition right?
Also , if I understand it correctly I can actually install CM7 onto a microSD and simply boot from this right ,without rooting/installing CWM... ?
Angelo
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You can still install apps into the /data partition but pls note: if your NC isn't rooted, you can only install apps that offered by B&N. You do not have full access of Android Market.
About CM7, yes, you can run CM7 off uSD and not touching the eMMC (aka internal memory) at all. Be considered getting a Sandisk (class 2 or class 4)
B-i-g thanks
All,
BIG Thanks to everyone,
I've successfully (actually flawlessly), repartitioned my nook to the old standard and installed CM7 into the internal memory..
All flawlessly. Also ordered a sandisk 16gb memory card from amazon.co.uk, so that will hold most of the media..
I was considering making the main partition >1Gb (1.9Gb) but decided to leave it as it is for now.. It was so easy yo tweak I thought Id try it vanilla and then grow if I need to..
Awesome-ness
ok wheres my 5gb?
ok got one question now..
/media is supposed to have 5gb available..
CM7 doesnt appear to allow me to use it as a SD card.. but ive found it mounted as /mnt/emmc
How does one use it ??? I tried downloading pdfs and I was told that an SD card was required for this... :-( when i get home I was going to try mounting it via usb to a computer but is that the only way?
There are 2 things you need to know
1. If you're running CM7, you MUST have a uSD. "MUST" does seem to be a strong word but for some reason, that I still try to figure out, an external uSD is required. W/o it, you can still using it but there's some apps won't run if no uSD plugged. It means the NC works 99.9% w/o uSD. I guess I should take the "MUST" back, ehhh
2. If you're running the recently nightly-build CM7, the USB storage utitlity should already be implemented within the ROM. All you need to do is
1. Connect NC and PC via USB cable
2. by this time, the usb indicator should be appeared on the NC, tab on it
3. Tab on Connect USB to transfer .......
4. Turn USB Mass Storage on
5. by this time, PC should recognize the /media on the NOOK
6. do what you want to do
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There are 2 things you need to know
1. If you're running CM7, you MUST have a uSD. "MUST" does seem to be a strong word but for some reason, that I still try to figure out, an external uSD is required. W/o it, you can still using it but there's some apps won't run if no uSD plugged. It means the NC works 99.9% w/o uSD. I guess I should take the "MUST" back, ehhh
2. If you're running the recently nightly-build CM7, the USB storage utitlity should already be implemented within the ROM. All you need to do is
1. Connect NC and PC via USB cable
2. by this time, the usb indicator should be appeared on the NC, tab on it
3. Tab on Connect USB to transfer .......
4. Turn USB Mass Storage on
5. by this time, PC should recognize the /media on the NOOK
6. do what you want to do
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Wicked, yeah didnt see the little icon down below
thanks
Hey Angelo, I just wanted to share my experience.
I love gadgets, and tinkering with gadgets. I am an IT manager/minor programmer/webmaster, etc. etc... so no surprise that I feel right at home here BUT, I also love to read and I think that the Nook app for Android is bunk (e.g. "poor") compared to the stock NC experience.
I decided pretty early on that I wanted to keep the NC stock (partially due to warranty) and have a dual boot option for CM7. I had initially installed CM7 on my NC, replacing the stock rom all together. I ended up putting the stock ROM back on.
Here is a post from another thread where I outline that experience...and the guides that I use.
I talk about partitions in that post, since you have a new NC, don't even bother yourself with that...just note the guides there that will get you where you want to go, either way....
asantaga said:
ok got one question now..
/media is supposed to have 5gb available..
CM7 doesnt appear to allow me to use it as a SD card.. but ive found it mounted as /mnt/emmc
How does one use it ??? I tried downloading pdfs and I was told that an SD card was required for this... :-( when i get home I was going to try mounting it via usb to a computer but is that the only way?
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Many (older) apps in on Android are designed to ONLY look for storage called "sdcard". So your 5gb of internal (emmc) called "Media" will not be able to be utilized by those Apps.
Apps that are better programmed and designed can access the memory called "Media".
I've just recently purchased the Nook HD and I did not know I was going to dislike the B&N system it runs on. I just want to run the Android system off of it and it is very difficult. I researched plenty of ways to do it, but they are all very complicated. I have an SD card. Is there an easier way to put the Android system onto my Nook?
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I've just recently purchased the Nook HD and I did not know I was going to dislike the B&N system it runs on. I just want to run the Android system off of it and it is very difficult. I researched plenty of ways to do it, but they are all very complicated. I have an SD card. Is there an easier way to put the Android system onto my Nook?
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No, if you want something besides stock you must use an SD.
I have a simple description on how to install the hybrid on the HD+ linked in my signature. I know you have an HD, so you need to follow my guide but use the files from the HD Hybrid thread. Also on the HD, the converter zip is not necessary. Just skip that step.
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