I haven't tried any of them yet, but it seems 2.2 or 2.3 or 3.0 have issues or are rough around the edges. It's understandable with honeycomb, but I thought by now there might have been a solid, stable 2.2 or 2.3.
Not complaining, but just thought something would be better than the stock 2.1 by this point. I was hoping for a speed increase with 2.2+ as there are some android git optimizations that 2.1 lacks, but yet I read that 2.1 for nc is still the most responsive.
Many people have reported much better bechmark scores with 2.2 and 2.3, and overall the feeling from those who run 2.2 or 2.3 is that they are more snappy than the stock 2.1. So far as being faster, the custom builds are probably generally better.
However, in terms of stability and compatibility it is my humble opinion that the stock 2.1 is still the winner. The CM7 build of 2.3 is getting pretty close, but still lacks some pretty important features. They will get there eventually...probably pretty soon....but I actually use my device quite heavily (at home and for work) and don't want to have to deal with 'minor' issues on a daily basis. I think that the Froyo build is going to fall out of favor - the CM7 build is better, more updated, and much more supported by the CM7 team with nightly builds. I am not sure about Honeycomb...haven't heard any real updates there in a while.
I am waiting for most of the wrinkles to get worked out for the CM7 version of 2.3. They do great work and if past performance is any indication once they get a solid and stable build it will be hard to beat. For now, my overclocked version of 2.1 does everything I want, is extremely stable, has very few software compatibility problems, and is certainly fast enough.
Thanks for the reply. You say the froyo build is probably going to fall out of favour over the cm7 build. Isn't the cm7 build based on froyo?
CM7 build is based on Gingerbread.
CM7 is based on 2.3 which is Gingerbread (Froyo is 2.2)
Confusingly, the upcoming 2.4 is also Gingerbread (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history)
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As of this time, for day to day stable use, stock rooted. That's my opinion. Too many quirks and resets and "can't boot again" and other misc stuff that seems to randomly happen on the rest.
That'll change eventually, hopefully soonish, I would really love me some solid Froyo.
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I think that the Froyo build is going to fall out of favor - the CM7 build is better, more updated, and much more supported by the CM7 team with nightly builds.
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But right now the Froyo build is where its at. CM7 lacks working Youtube among other things. With the current Froyo build you get speed, working Youtube, and many working apps.
Stock rooted has no Flash correct? I think I'll be waiting until CM7 is finalized before I start rooting anything.
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But right now the Froyo build is where its at. CM7 lacks working Youtube among other things. With the current Froyo build you get speed, working Youtube, and many working apps.
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I have plenty of speed on 2.1 overclocked at 1.1ghz, my YouTube works just fine (the app that is), and I have yet to find an app I want that doesn't work that would work on Froyo.
Yes...no Flash...but from what I have heard the Flash on Froyo is far from perfect...a bit choppy at best. Actually, no Flash is not quite correct...there is an older version of Flash that runs on 2.1 (Flash 9.something)...so you can veiw some older Flash content on the stock Eclair.
To each their own...
Can't fine that damn grail ANYWHERE
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Many people have reported much better bechmark scores with 2.2 and 2.3, and overall the feeling from those who run 2.2 or 2.3 is that they are more snappy than the stock 2.1.
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It amazes me that people say this. Not saying they are wrong, I just wonder what magic nooks they are using that I don't have.
I've tried two different cards (a class 4 and a class 10, which really is class 10 fast) on two different nooks (mine and my wife's) and almost a dozen different install attempts of 0.6.7. and 0.6.8 and they have all been less "snappy".
It took me quite awhile to even get decent wifi speeds, and I still don't know what I did differently to get it right on the last install (different cards, different nooks, different wifi routers, clear-market-caching and clear-framework-data-ing till I'm blue in the face didn't do it).
I get back on my rooted BN1.1 eclair and breath a sigh of relief at the improved responsiveness and usability. Does anyone know what the secret sauce is to get froyo to REALLY feel better?
That said, I'm more than happy with the 2.1 nook; it's a great tablet and loads of fun. The dev community is fantastic and I've had a ball with all of the experimentation. Keep it up!
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I have plenty of speed on 2.1 overclocked at 1.1ghz, my YouTube works just fine (the app that is), and I have yet to find an app I want that doesn't work that would work on Froyo.
Yes...no Flash...but from what I have heard the Flash on Froyo is far from perfect...a bit choppy at best. Actually, no Flash is not quite correct...there is an older version of Flash that runs on 2.1 (Flash 9.something)...so you can veiw some older Flash content on the stock Eclair.
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Can I ask whether a 10-min youtube playback is choppy in your nc? Cause mine is choppy sometimes...
I tried nookie froyo and it was really slow. Stock rom is much faster and reliable. I've heard honeycomb runs much better than froyo. I've seen videos and it looks good. The only think i can complain about stock rom is the lack of flash player
I've tried stock rooted, sdcard froyo, and emmc froyo, and I've run into minor issues/flaws with all of them, but the current emmc froyo (for me, at least) has the least amount of problems and the speed over slow eclair and my class 4 sdcard made it worth flashing. It's currently my daily driver.
If/when official CM7 comes out with, I'll probably give it a whirl, but I'm happy with my froyo build right now.
Maybe it'll bite me eventually... But i just put froyo 2.2 on my nook, and it runs so much better off the internal memory
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Can I ask whether a 10-min youtube playback is choppy in your nc? Cause mine is choppy sometimes...
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I don't use YouTube much...but when I have used it I do not notice any problems. I am sure that it depends on the quality of the video, but I have played cartoon episodes that are several minutes long without any delays or playback problems.
swoozle said:
It amazes me that people say this. Not saying they are wrong, I just wonder what magic nooks they are using that I don't have.
I've tried two different cards (a class 4 and a class 10, which really is class 10 fast) on two different nooks (mine and my wife's) and almost a dozen different install attempts of 0.6.7. and 0.6.8 and they have all been less "snappy".
It took me quite awhile to even get decent wifi speeds, and I still don't know what I did differently to get it right on the last install (different cards, different nooks, different wifi routers, clear-market-caching and clear-framework-data-ing till I'm blue in the face didn't do it).
I get back on my rooted BN1.1 eclair and breath a sigh of relief at the improved responsiveness and usability. Does anyone know what the secret sauce is to get froyo to REALLY feel better?
That said, I'm more than happy with the 2.1 nook; it's a great tablet and loads of fun. The dev community is fantastic and I've had a ball with all of the experimentation. Keep it up!
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I agree on all accounts. I also have played with Froyo and Honeycomb on SD and have not personally seen the speed improvements others have reported. Perhaps it is better if installed to internal memory.
Definitely better installed to emmc. Been through Stock rooted, nookie 0.6.8, and HC. HC is sweet, softkeys and interface are great. but lack of key apps in the market is a bummer. nookie 0.6.8 ver 3 has been my everyday driver, no complaints over here.
I'm using cm7, nightly 7 and I like it better than stock. It does feel a bit snappier (but honestly I never had any issues with speed on rooted 2.1 so it could be in my head.) I know there's no DSP, but I don't plan on watching movies any time soon so that's fine for me. I like the UI alot...I like having built in copy/paste, I like having flash, and I like not having to worry about BN pushing out updates that could screw up my root. I'm only a few days into having used CM7, but as of now I'm really happy with my choice.
I've been running Honeycomb v4 2ed on a development Nook for awhile. I think it shows great potential! But the Nook I take with me is 1.1.0 with a 1.1ghz kernel. Fast, stable & very reliable.
I have to say. I'm really looking forward to seeing the Honeycomb AOSP drop! This thing is going to be Great.
I'm really enjoying stock 1.1 rooted. It has everything I could ask for in a value tablet and more. (Browsing, video, music, apps) The stability has been great...knock on wood. I was hell bent on buying an iPad before I purchased the nook color. I dont think I'll need an ipad, or anything else for that matter anymore.
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Just want to see what everyone's take is with the battery life issues, etc
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If you guys seriously consider that either trolling or flaming, then your standards for such really are lackluster.
For the sake of the thread though, I went back to MCR r15. Runs amazing, and have much faster up and dl speeds. Paul said he will be releasing a ROM based on this soon anyway, so I can wait. FroYo was amazing though. Only real reason I went back was because of a wifi issue, LOL. Turns out it was just an IP address conflict. I reset the IP of my laptop and solved it, but only AFTER I'd reverted. Too lazy to go back again.
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If you guys seriously consider that either trolling or flaming, then your standards for such really are lackluster.
For the sake of the thread though, I went back to MCR r15. Runs amazing, and have much faster up and dl speeds. Paul said he will be releasing a ROM based on this soon anyway, so I can wait. FroYo was amazing though. Only real reason I went back was because of a wifi issue, LOL. Turns out it was just an IP address conflict. I reset the IP of my laptop and solved it, but only AFTER I'd reverted. Too lazy to go back again.
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Why MCR R15 over CM 5.0.7.1?
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Just want to see what everyone's take is with the battery life issues, etc
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I have great battery life with FroYo, running stock FroYo kernel, and all... I do have a few small bugs that were clear signs to me it was unofficial to begin with, and am excited for the official release to see if it polishes out those few minor issues.
All in all, though, 99.9% of if works perfect. Super fast, great battery life, and so forth. Radio seems to be about the same as all the others, I get good 3G when I have it, good EDGE when I am on that. I still say I get better reception than my G1 did, but that is just me and my testing at my Dad's house (death hole for cell phone coverage) and my basement (it is where my "man dungeon" is located). Beyond that, I always get good coverage no matter the phone, so it has been a moot point to me... speed wise, I always edit my GPRS and HSDPA to 12 and 2.
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Why MCR R15 over CM 5.0.7.1?
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Why CM over MCR? Or Enom over CM? and so forth... personal preference is the likely answer. I like MCR since I have a pay account over there and can use his kitchens, thus making a ROM that is lighter. I like Enom because it is rock solid, fast, and great battery life (1.8.1 is best IMHO). I like CM because it is bleeding edge, fast, and while has its moments of instability, is still the gold standard for a full feature custom ROM, especially with all the extras pre-baked in. Desire has only 1 real option, Modaco.
And I like FroYo the most because it is new, super duper fast, good battery life, and I like frozen yogurt.
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Why MCR R15 over CM 5.0.7.1?
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MCR r15 for me runs soooo much smoother. I love CyanogenMod, as my sign indicates. LOL. After trying out r15 though I was hooked.
The poll options seem to indicate a dislike of Froyo. Even the positive options imply that by using it you are putting up with tons of bugs or something. Are people really having trouble with Froyo?
It's been working well for me. My battery life has been worse but I thought it was just because I had turned Latitude back on about the same time I upgraded to Froyo.
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The poll options seem to indicate a dislike of Froyo. Even the positive options imply that by using it you are putting up with tons of bugs or something. Are people really having trouble with Froyo?
It's been working well for me. My battery life has been worse but I thought it was just because I had turned Latitude back on about the same time I upgraded to Froyo.
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I LOVE FroYo but can't tolerate the battery consumption. Sorry if it came off bias
I love FroYo and I want to keep it but... I have some problems that I can't live with.
1. Reboot phone, resets widgets and some installed programs on SD
2. Double messaging notifications (stock messaging app conflict with other apps, even if I disable notifications)
3. Miss the tweaks and stuff from CM
Still using it but urging to switch back until custom roms are out.
Not only am I keeping Froyo, I'm being FORCED to use my TMobile Nexus(2.2) instead of my ATT Nexus(2.1) because Froyo makes 2.1 feel like a slow crappy beta.
I cannot even get voice plus data at the same time with my TMobile Nexus, yet I use it because, imo, Froyo is that much better.
Going back to my 2.1 Nexus feels like a pre launch beta device that I yell at because it's so damn laggy compared to Froyo, which is fast as a bullet.
Please Google give us 2.2 so I can go back to my freaking ATT Nexus!
wish I could have two nexus ones, LOL.
Overall I loved FroYo, and had I realized the IP conflict before switching back to MCR r15, I would still be on it.
Well, I just solved two of my problems, it's not so bad now. Going to stick with it
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wish I could have two nexus ones, LOL.
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if I'd known the ATT version was going to follow so closely behind the Tmobile version, I would only have one as well. I just couldn't wait. I keep the Tmobile Nexus rather than sell it because if anything were to ever happen to my ATT Nexus, my GF will NEVER let me buy a third one. I've used up my smartphone quota for quite awhile
People get too caught up in the other ROMS when in all reality Froyo briings everything they need via a stock ROM but some folks would rather run Cyano or Modaco just to say they have have a custom ROM. In all reality if you install Froyo after a clean wipe the only real bug you will encounter is with some marketplace apps not showing up. A small price to pay considering they will eventually show up and life will be back to normal. The majority of ppl complaining about other bugs are folks who flashed froyo over a cyano or modaco etc.. rom and of course they are going to have problems as this update was obviously not tested with cyano or modaco as a base rom for obvious reasons. I'd say a good 90% plus of the problems some are experiencing are due to this and the rest of us are loving Froyo to death. I'm happy with it and anxiously awaiting the official release so I can reinstall those market apps that are missing as that's the only real bug I am encountering after a clean install of Froyo.
For everyday use I feel Froyo is definitely slower than CM5.0.7 with pershoot's latest kernel. I used CM's quick rooter with Froyo so I was also OC'd for a fair comparison. I'm still going to keep using Froyo because it's fun seeing optimizations and themes etc slowly tickle out for the new Android build.
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People get too caught up in the other ROMS when in all reality Froyo briings everything they need via a stock ROM but some folks would rather run Cyano or Modaco just to say they have have a custom ROM. In all reality if you install Froyo after a clean wipe the only real bug you will encounter is with some marketplace apps not showing up. A small price to pay considering they will eventually show up and life will be back to normal. The majority of ppl complaining about other bugs are folks who flashed froyo over a cyano or modaco etc.. rom and of course they are going to have problems as this update was obviously not tested with cyano or modaco as a base rom for obvious reasons. I'd say a good 90% plus of the problems some are experiencing are due to this and the rest of us are loving Froyo to death. I'm happy with it and anxiously awaiting the official release so I can reinstall those market apps that are missing as that's the only real bug I am encountering after a clean install of Froyo.
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I agree, to a degree, but there is no way most people are just caught up in the hype of a ROM. The assumption and assertion that custom ROMs are pointless is unjustified, and bias to your needs. I find the the enhancements custom ROMs bring can drastically alter my user experience in many ways. For example, MCR r15 runs circles around my stock ROM, in terms of speed, performance with games, battery life, etc. Prior to FroYo, these ROMs added the wifi/wired tethering, lower capacitive button fix (thanks kmobs), better battery life, smaller file sizes for installed system, homescreen rotation (which FroYo still doesn't do), trackball colors, and various other small tidbits. Now that FroYo is out (I wonder how much of what's in FroYo only came about due to the Dev community putting it out there, and Google taking notice.. hmm), I can only imagine what the Devs will cook up to enhance it even further.
Looking forward to the future Cyano ROMS based on Froyo no doubt but at this point in time Froyo brings everything I ever rooted for and gives me better battery life to boot. The dev community certainly had some influence in the features we see today in Froyo and for that I am thankful, don't mean to sound like i'm coming down on the devs. I just don't see much point in running anything other than Froyo right now but will consider it once I see what the devs can add to it.
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I just don't see much point in running anything other than Froyo right now but will consider it once I see what the devs can add to it.
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Well, if you want a good example - I want the option to have sd-ext partition (custom, pre-Froyo Apps2SD). Firstly because many apps I have currently don't support moving to SD - and I'm "overbooked" by at least 50MB that I have to offload to SD card to have some space left on the device, and also because I like the ability to mound SD card without loosing access to applications.
I also hate it that I don't have direct access to hidden system menus, and even for changing the browser user agent I need to write "about:debug".
Those things keep me with CM5.0.7.1 until better times.
so which one do you currently prefer any why?
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so which one do you currently prefer any why?
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I like Honeycomb on my Tablet because i have Cyanogen on my Phone.
My favorite option isn't listed.
Froyo gives you Flash and working DSP video, something no other option has.
phi303 said:
so which one do you currently prefer any why?
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If you look at the signatures of most Mods on Nook Color Forums, almost all of them are using Nookie Froyo - probably for the reasons mentioned by the poster just before me.
(In fact, it is rumored than B&N will release an update for the stock NC to Froyo at the end of March, and it will include Flash support.)
Does anyone know if there is still the problem with mounting your sd card in HC after installing internally? the reason i as is because the Nook app its self will not work unless a SD card is inserted and mounted. Making the whole original point to the nook color pointless... lol even though it does make an amazing android tab. with 3.0 it would be INCREDIBLE!!! I had 3.0 installed internally but i switched back to autonooter just because i couldn't read any books because of the sd card mount issue. wasn't sure if they had fixed this in Honeycomb V4 version 2 or not. I would love to know if they have.
If so, we know who will installing it tonight! I got a whoppin 1430 Quadrant score when HC was installed. pretty impressive, better than my Droid Inc. running gingerbread lol
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Does anyone know if there is still the problem with mounting your sd card in HC after installing internally? the reason i as is because the Nook app its self will not work unless a SD card is inserted and mounted. Making the whole original point to the nook color pointless... lol even though it does make an amazing android tab. with 3.0 it would be INCREDIBLE!!! I had 3.0 installed internally but i switched back to autonooter just because i couldn't read any books because of the sd card mount issue. wasn't sure if they had fixed this in Honeycomb V4 version 2 or not. I would love to know if they have.
If so, we know who will installing it tonight! I got a whoppin 1430 Quadrant score when HC was installed. pretty impressive, better than my Droid Inc. running gingerbread lol
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i currently am using ver2 and internal memory and SD card both read/write fine =]
neidlinger said:
I like Honeycomb on my Tablet because i have Cyanogen on my Phone.
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same for me - i was just wondering what most people use
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My favorite option isn't listed.
Froyo gives you Flash and working DSP video, something no other option has.
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hmmm thnx for the input - video and flash aren't important to me as i use the nook as a comic & magazine reader... very interesting results so far =P
Yeah FroYo if you want Flash and DSP video. Otherwise CM7 since it runs a little smoother than HC as of right now.
i liked honeycomb becuase of the easy way to switch btween stuff but i am enjoying cm7 most cause it runs really nice
Using CM7 on eMMC until HC AOSP comes out and gets a few releases (figuring there will likely be some annoying bugs in the first couple). I liked the HC interface much more, but it was not as responsive and too many apps didn't run properly. My fiancee and lots of other friends/family play Words with Friends constantly as well, and it doesn't work in HC properly, but it does work flawlessly in CM7 from my experience. I'm not a huge fan of the game, but it is one I would much rather not see broken.
has it been working pretty well for you then?!
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i currently am using ver2 and internal memory and SD card both read/write fine =]
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i like roms with lots of updates and currently that only includes cm7.
may switch back to froyo for awhile though... it was nice being able to watch movies.
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Using CM7 on eMMC until HC AOSP comes out and gets a few releases (figuring there will likely be some annoying bugs in the first couple). I liked the HC interface much more, but it was not as responsive and too many apps didn't run properly. My fiancee and lots of other friends/family play Words with Friends constantly as well, and it doesn't work in HC properly, but it does work flawlessly in CM7 from my experience. I'm not a huge fan of the game, but it is one I would much rather not see broken.
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Really? words with friends has never worked properly for me... It just does not scale properly on any ROM i've tried... ie the letter tabs are half-off the screen, and refuse to be dragged.
HoneyComb has a far superior UI, but CM7 has far fewer bugs. Eclair was never really stable for me, I've gone to flash Froyo a few times, but the page for the download is really pessimistic and turns me off.
I would really REALLY prefer a stable HoneyComb build. That would be amazing...
the tablet apps are so much better than the default. Plus CM7's notifications pull-down menu really annoys me and should go away. So much wasted screen space...
EDIT: and WHY are the back and menu buttons in the top right? really? pretty much EVERY app has a button right next to them. I try to hit the menu button, and the notification window pulls down. Either that or i push an app button by accident.
I love CM7, and I REALLY appreciate all the work that's been done, but these guys obviously aren't UI guys...
I have had my nook for all of 4 days, but i really like cm7, hc appeared to be too unresponsive for now. I fly a lot and videos are important however moboplayer and or rockplayer between them seem to handle anything i throw at them (divx etc) smoothly. I had an iPad (jailbreak hell) then a g tablet (screen sucks, heavy, cm7 was not nearly as stable as on nook, fast but i don't seem to see much difference browisng/scrolling etc with cm7 experience) and for some reason this nook is by far and away my favorite.
It seems that Honeycomb runs a bit slow on the sd card (haven't tried it running it from eMMC). Right now it seems that Froyo works the best. If they don't come up with a less sluggish HC, I might stick with Froyo.
I may be in the minority but I like the stock rom rooted. Primarily because of the control buttons B&N coded into the task bar, and I don't much care about flash anyway.
I like the Honeycomb UI. I tried the SD version and it's pretty remarkable how well they got that build running. If I were to replace the stock rom it'd be with some version of Honeycomb. Actually I would prefer if B&N just skipped froyo and gingerbread and went straight to Honeycomb for their upgrade (if they are indeed planning an upgrade at all).
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My favorite option isn't listed.
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what rom you have installed? I had nokie froyo on internal memory and it was reaaally slow. Right now im on 1.1 stock rom and its noticeable much faster.
I prefer Cyanogen. I've read too much about issues with application compatibility with Honeycomb to load it right now. When the developers start pushing out ROMS based on the actual source, I'm sure I'll switch over and try it out.
Right now I have CM7 running with dalingrin's overclocked kernel and this thing FLIES. I'm actually trying to sell my ipad now as I would much prefer to use the nook as my tablet.
I like rooted stock. Was trying nookie froyo in my class 10 sd really smooth. After some customization I will be using NF if I can fix the wifi issue.
Ok, I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of nook roms out there, and I would like to know what everyone uses and why.
I've tried 2, and they all have benefits/negatives and I'm trying to figure out which to be my daily driver, while we wait for the next generation of roms to come about.
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Ok, I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of nook roms out there, and I would like to know what everyone uses and why.
I've tried 2, and they all have benefits/negatives and I'm trying to figure out which to be my daily driver, while we wait for the next generation of roms to come about.
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well which 2 have you already tried?
I personally use CyanogenMod 7, but that's because I use it on my Droid, and that's because it's the first ROM I found when I got my droid.
I haven't had it crash on me yet, but there was a Wi-Fi problem I had to fix through ADB. (Link) Otherwise, it's been more than good enough for a daily driver. I really haven't had experience with other ROMs. I just flashed the thing with CM7 while I was still in B&N. I would recommend a Honeycomb ROM, but that's not very "complete" yet.
Sorry I can't say much else (), but I gave my $.02.
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I wasn't going to mention them so I could hear everyone's full opinion despite what I've tried and not hold back because I've tried it.
However, I don't want to be a **** so it's cm7 and HC v.4 now don't let that sway your opinions!
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I personally use CyanogenMod 7, but that's because I use it on my Droid, and that's because it's the first ROM I found when I got my droid.
I haven't had it crash on me yet, but there was a Wi-Fi problem I had to fix through ADB. (Link) Otherwise, it's been more than good enough for a daily driver. I really haven't had experience with other ROMs. I just flashed the thing with CM7 while I was still in B&N. I would recommend a Honeycomb ROM, but that's not very "complete" yet.
Sorry I can't say much else (), but I gave my $.02.
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I was having the wifi issues to (Atleast I assume it's the same, I would just lose connection and have to reconnect pretty consistently) the thing that actually bothered me most about it was the back and menu buttons up at the top right. To small, wanted a different more tablety layout.
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I was having the wifi issues to (Atleast I assume it's the same, I would just lose connection and have to reconnect pretty consistently) the thing that actually bothered me most about it was the back and menu buttons up at the top right. To small, wanted a different more tablety layout.
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Oh, no the Wi-Fi issue was much worse. I couldn't get the chip to activate! At least the fix worked, though.
If "too small" is the problem, increase the LCD Density.
If you want a more tablet-like layout, you will have to deal with Honeycomb in its current state.
If you don't like the CM7 buttons, use SoftKeys or Button Savior.
(I would post links, but I can't.)
I tried soft keys, but I haven't tried button savior. and didn't know about lcd density. If I go back (which isn't in my nature with roms) I may try it out.
I'm really liking honeycomb especially as far as layout, but I would like a bit more stability. But really I Can live with whatever, the nook is really my fourth internet device and currently just a toy.
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I tried soft keys, but I haven't tried button savior. and didn't know about lcd density. If I go back (which isn't in my nature with roms) I may try it out.
I'm really liking honeycomb especially as far as layout, but I would like a bit more stability. But really I Can live with whatever, the nook is really my fourth internet device and currently just a toy.
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The solution is patience, then.
Wait for the Google to give us the source, and all your problems will be solved.
(Don't forget that HC is a port of the SDK emulator image.)
well I knew that, that's why I wanted to know what everyone else is using so maybe I could try some other things out... during that wait it out time
Well... if you want to try a Galaxy Tab-like experience, try this:
Install Nookie Froyo
Set LCD Density to 250
Install ADW and set the app drawer to paged.
(Continue with other minor tweaks here)
i'm rolling nookie froyo 0.6.7, but i'm going to move up to 0.6.8 soon. i like it, but i'm sure honeycomb is much better. since the bugs in hc for the nook color are still being hammered out, though, i'm going to stick with the stable froyo rom for the time being.
dkabot said:
Well... if you want to try a Galaxy Tab-like experience, try this:
Install Nookie Froyo
Set LCD Density to 250
Install ADW and set the app drawer to paged.
(Continue with other minor tweaks here)
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Is this rom an actual port of the tab, or is it just made to look like the tab?
droiddoes69 said:
i'm rolling nookie froyo 0.6.7, but i'm going to move up to 0.6.8 soon. i like it, but i'm sure honeycomb is much better. since the bugs in hc for the nook color are still being hammered out, though, i'm going to stick with the stable froyo rom for the time being.
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Yeah this is kind of the info I was looking for, trying to see which roms had what features and still had the best stability.
HC is awesome, but not yet a daily driver (unless you're the adventurous type) I have a friend who is about to buy a nc for himself and he wants me to root it for him. I have no problems with a buggy rom for me, but for him I need stable yet best.
not sure where you are getting the idea that there are so many roms to choose from.
We have stock rooted, nookie froyo, honeycomb v3 and cyanogenmod (gingerbread).
there is one modified version of cyanogenmod -- firemod and one customized nookie froyo build. thats about it as far as i know... am i missing a bunch of roms somewhere?
you can try all of them out relatively quickly and form your own opinion but if you insist....
stock rooted is the most functional option at the moment. oc to 1100mhz for speed and other tweaks. nookie froyo is second with faster overall 'smoothness' but still has some bugs to work out. third is cyanogenmod which is quickly catching up to froyo and is my personal favorite. just needs video acceleration at this point. last is honeycomb but very fun to play with.
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not sure where you are getting the idea that there are so many roms to choose from.
We have stock rooted, nookie froyo, honeycomb v3 and cyanogenmod (gingerbread).
there is one modified version of cyanogenmod -- firemod and one customized nookie froyo build. thats about it as far as i know... am i missing a bunch of roms somewhere?
you can try all of them out relatively quickly and form your own opinion but if you insist....
stock rooted is the most functional option at the moment. oc to 1100mhz for speed and other tweaks. nookie froyo is second with faster overall 'smoothness' but still has some bugs to work out. third is cyanogenmod which is quickly catching up to froyo and is my personal favorite. just needs video acceleration at this point. last is honeycomb but very fun to play with.
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That might be all of them, it seems a bit more for anyone walking into this dev thread, with the internal and on sdcard roms.
But seeing them listed out like this is very helpful thank you!
Is there large differences between the customized roms and their noncustomized origins?
personally id recommend rooted stock rom. Ive tried nookie froyo and honeycomb v4. Froyo was really slow. It was really frustrating browsing with it. Honeycomb is much faster than froyo but a lot of apps dont install. Stock rom was stable and I wasnt able to install just a couple of apps that I tried from the android market
personally, i'm only adventurous to the point of rooting. after that, i want stability. i don't mind staying a release or 2 behind the most recent releases just so i know the issues are being dealt with.
with froyo, i'm able to use my own launcher and customize pretty much to my liking. i still don't see all the apps i want in the market, but there are enough forum posts here and on android central that link you to apk downloads so that you can install them through adb. i've seen some fixes for this, but it seems to be an issue on both froyo and hc. hope this helps!
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personally id recommend rooted stock rom. Ive tried nookie froyo and honeycomb v4. Froyo was really slow. It was really frustrating browsing with it. Honeycomb is much faster than froyo but a lot of apps dont install. Stock rom was stable and I wasnt able to install just a couple of apps that I tried from the android market
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I didn't like how much the stock rom seemed like, well a nook color which is great but in this instance I wanted to get a tablet!
droiddoes69 said:
personally, i'm only adventurous to the point of rooting. after that, i want stability. i don't mind staying a release or 2 behind the most recent releases just so i know the issues are being dealt with.
with froyo, i'm able to use my own launcher and customize pretty much to my liking. i still don't see all the apps i want in the market, but there are enough forum posts here and on android central that link you to apk downloads so that you can install them through adb. i've seen some fixes for this, but it seems to be an issue on both froyo and hc. hope this helps!
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With my phone, I'm less adventurous, I have calmed down to where now I only put release candidate and stable cm roms.
However I got this nook for a really really great deal (100$ plus the cover) and I want to try out whatever I can (and if possible help, though I have little to none coding skills) I might have to try the froyo build out since it's technically the only one I Haven't tried based on the above list (minus the 2 custom roms)
I kinda wish there was a customized version of the stock rom.
I guess the oc kernel counts?
zealious said:
I kinda wish there was a customized version of the stock rom.
I guess the oc kernel counts?
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I actually just bought setcpu to try overclocking the kernals a little bit on my NC.
What would You customize about stock?
after flashing back to froyo i must say it is far better then I remembered.
maybe it's the newer kernels but it is fast and smooth. hardware video works which i was missing on cm7.
so i change my (current) order to nookie froyo, then stock rooted, followed by cm7 and then honeycomb. i would try them all though and see for yourself.
Hi,
Im looking for a cheap tablet to gift. After considering the choices, i see nook color fits the bill...
However, i noticed people complaing about some problems like choppy youtube, sleep of death problems, etc with cm7.. I want to know how bad it really is? is it worth buying over regular tablet? Thing is I'm prepared to take a chance, but im gifting it to someone who wont update to latest ROM by himself..so i want to know if cm7 is stable on NC for regular stuff like games browsing, youtube etc...
Also how is the impact of overclocking on battery..is it able to give 6-7 hour runtime on 1.2ghz on interactive governer?
Mafioso said:
Hi,
Im looking for a cheap tablet to gift. After considering the choices, i see nook color fits the bill...
However, i noticed people complaing about some problems like choppy youtube, sleep of death problems, etc with cm7.. I want to know how bad it really is? is it worth buying over regular tablet? Thing is I'm prepared to take a chance, but im gifting it to someone who wont update to latest ROM by himself..so i want to know if cm7 is stable on NC for regular stuff like games browsing, youtube etc...
Also how is the impact of overclocking on battery..is it able to give 6-7 hour runtime on 1.2ghz on interactive governer?
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I have absolutly no problems with CM7 on the NC. I have oc'd to 1.1 and can run 9 hours with the screen on. I use it for everything, and would have no problems giving it as a gift to my gf to use as such.
Although, if you are going to give it and never update it, or be there to fix something if anything happens to have, I would buy an android tablet. Not the off name cheepy ones.
If it has to do with funds, I would choose the NC in the end.
It's a good tablet and performs quite nice on cm7. Have it clocked to 1GHz and it stays stable.
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It works fine for the most part. Some people do have trouble with sleep but not me. It does have performance problems with Flash video but I think that's due to Flash being very demanding.
YouTube works fine. Netflix does too. Those are my sources of video. Although I use my Nook mostly for web and reading.
The Nook Color is a good cheap tablet with CM7. The best part is the IPS LCD you get for this cheap price.
thanks for the feedback....NC it is then
I forgot to mention that with YouTube you need to run an older version than the one in the market. For some reason the latest version won't play HQ. Just search for YouTube 2.1.6 apk.
Or here is my backup.
Why wouldn't the person you're gifting it to ever update it?
It's pretty simple through Rom Manager, and as long as they just do it like once a week/once every other week to whichever nightly has the most stars in the list... They'd probably be alright.
Yoinx said:
Why wouldn't the person you're gifting it to ever update it?
It's pretty simple through Rom Manager, and as long as they just do it like once a week/once every other week to whichever nightly has the most stars in the list... They'd probably be alright.
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It seems pretty easy for us...but for a person who isn't technologically savvy or lacks interest in it, its a big deal...Most people are fine as long as it does basic things right and don't care much for new enhancements...
It's entirely possible to never flash again once you have a stable release running. If Android 4 works out on Nook Color maybe that will be worth upgrading too. Otherwise we are pretty much past the teething problems of getting a decent kernel for 2.3, for example. 7.1.0 is a huge improvement over 7.0.3 primarily because of the kernel improvements that arrived since May.
I suggest you explore the stock firmware too. Maybe root it so you can install the market. The stock firmware has official support and you might appreciate that.
The stock firmware has official support and you might appreciate that.
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Not once you root it. It would have to be restored to unrooted stock if any official support was needed.
swaaye said:
It's entirely possible to never flash again once you have a stable release running. If Android 4 works out on Nook Color maybe that will be worth upgrading too. Otherwise we are pretty much past the teething problems of getting a decent kernel for 2.3, for example. 7.1.0 is a huge improvement over 7.0.3 primarily because of the kernel improvements that arrived since May.
I suggest you explore the stock firmware too. Maybe root it so you can install the market. The stock firmware has official support and you might appreciate that.
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Well I have tried using the nook on stock firmware, on B&N itself...but It didn't feel very snappy as other android devices...maybe rooting helps...
But that is why I am interesting in putting cm7 on it before gifting it..
BTW have ordered the nook, its on its way..
Yea there's no doubt that Dalingrin's Nook Color kernel in CM7 is a lot nicer overall than the stock software. That's where most of the speed comes from. Although he used their code, he tweaked it and threw in some enhancements.
If you want the most speed be sure to run 16bit transparency color. You can find that in the CM7 settings under performance. It speeds up scrolling considerably.
Hi Guys,
I'm planning to install my first custom ROM on nook color. However, I am wondering how good is honeycomb port on nook. Ideally and I know the right answer is to try it out myself both and find out, but I don't have enough time to try out both since I have to give away the nook to someone.
I have honeycomb on my EEE transformer and really love it...that's why i'm favoring for HC but still if anyone can anyone details pros and cons for both HC and CM7, regarding stability, battery life and overall quirks, bugs and performance, it would be really helpful..
Regards,
HC isn't really ready for the NC.. its very buggy and still has several issues running on the NC. cm7 is very stable and well running few problems at all. just my 2 cents
Since honeycomb isnt open source, the Nook port is made from the SDK rather than source. As such, its incredibly buggy and very slow. Dont get me wrong, its impressive that it works in the first place. But by no means is it a daily driver.
CM7 is the way to go unless you absolutely must have HC app compatibility. Even if you do, we'll have ICS in a few months.
Another vote for CM7. I tried an older release of the Honeycomb port and it was pretty bad -- very laggy and a lot of stuff didn't work. Several people have said that it's not really much better even now since we don't have an official release of HC's source. I ended up going back to stock for a long time until I tried CM7. They have done great work, and even though it's based on a "phone OS" (Gingerbread), it's adapted very well to the Nook.
Thanks for reply guys..
Actually I just saw some videos of NC running HC, so I got excited..didn't know it was that buggy..i'll put CM7 on it today
Mafioso said:
Thanks for reply guys..
Actually I just saw some videos of NC running HC, so I got excited..didn't know it was that buggy..i'll put CM7 on it today
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HC may be buggy, but some of the lag that a lot of people experience is because they install it to SD and their SD card is a low class giving it lower read speed. And the default launcher is terribly slow and buggy. If you decide to use it, use a lightweight launcher like zeam.
If you're still interested in trying it out, look into dual booting it and cm7. That's what I currently have set up.
I know this ROM was not included in your original question buy I highly recommend MIUI. I have found it to be incredibly stable and fast and the UI just looks great on the NC. I have tried CM7, Phiremod, and Honeycomb and to me the look and feel of MIUI just seems to fit the NC. Anyways, just my two cents : )
when i used to have my NC dual booted with Phiremod and Honeycomb i hated using the Honeycomb because it was glitchy and slow.. i went to using CM7 Nightly 150 and havent looked back.. it runs smooth as can be, is overclocked to 1.2 ghz, and battery life is with reading alot and searching the web ( 2-4 hrs of usage a day ) i can get a solid 4-5 days on one charge... if i only use it for an hour or so a day easily 9 days.. CM7 works great and you can theme it to look like honeycomb in alot of ways..
It's not even close. Honeycomb is pathetic. Go with CM7.
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I have a Transformer too and would love to see Honeycomb on the Nook but I'd rather wait for ICS on both
I have a feeling that ICS will run better on the Nook than HC does but that is just speculation.
These developer at XDA rock so I have faith they'll make it happen as soon as Google releases the code. Yeah, I believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy
I have a feeling that ICS will run better on the Nook than HC does but that is just speculation.
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Of course it will as long as the source code is available.