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HCv4 or CM7??

just currious what folks who have run both think? which one performs better?

At this moment Cm7 off course. If we get an official fully working Honeycomb then off course Honeycomb.

CM7, easily.
The HC ROM is cool, but isn't from source. CM7 is your best bet for everyday use.

CM7 is working great as long as you don't use the built in video/music player(codec problems, rock player is a fix).
Full market access isn't working either and some apps too(pandora).
Flash websites work great and the rom itself is very smooth.

HCv4
For everything other than video (which doesn't work stock in CM7 either) I use the Honeycomb emmc install.
HC is fast and stable for general web browsing.
This is just my .02
Dan

Like everyone says CM7 is much more stable, and because of the nightlies we are likely to see most of the major issues resolved within a week, however once HC goes AOSP its a totally different ball game, for now CM7 is your best bet.

Admiral Shovel said:
Like everyone says CM7 is much more stable, and because of the nightlies we are likely to see most of the major issues resolved within a week, however once HC goes AOSP its a totally different ball game, for now CM7 is your best bet.
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CM have had Gingerbread for long enough to know how to tweak it, I'd expect it to take a while for Honeycomb to get up to the same level.

Any word on if there will be a version of CM7 that we can boot off the SDCard? Would be great for those who just want to check it out before flashing.

Another vote for CM7 or some type of froyo. HC ran waaaaaay to slow for me. Even non-technically savvy people were like "man, isn't that really slow..?"

bjitty said:
Any word on if there will be a version of CM7 that we can boot off the SDCard? Would be great for those who just want to check it out before flashing.
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I seriously doubt it. CM, as far as I know, is strictly off the emmc.

There probably won't ever be a CM7 from the nightly builds that you could write to a bootable uSD but it certainly should be possible to create one. It is even mentioned in the FAQ from the [USER] CM7 General Discussion thread.
Q: IS THERE AN SD-ONLY "BOOTABLE" VERSION?
Not from the nighty builds. However-- should someone want to create such a bootable SD-- (warning: Slightly technical answer all it would take to create one is a new uRamdisk file with the partitions in init.encore.rc pointing to the correct partitions on the SD card.
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I'd try creating one myself but I have too many projects going on and trying CM7 isn't really high on my list.

For right now, CM7 is fine. Once someone from this great community ports over the "real" HC, then I will be 3.0!!! Everything else will be obsolete!!!

byproxy said:
just currious what folks who have run both think? which one performs better?
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well my HC setup is about 95% complete(i have just a few market apps not showing up but its no bother) and a side from no HQ youtube and flash(which i can wait the xoom wont have flash support on release as well) it runs smooth off the emmc and its really stable so i recommend honeycomb

I have been running HC4 since it came out and love it. Quad scores of 1700. Same probs as other ROMs with no Flash and no HQ YouTube, but very stable. I haven't tried CM7 and prob wont just because I am at a good place witty my NC on HC. Can't wait for AOSP version! I don't think u can go wrong with either one, tho.
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I have spent the past couple days trying out all the available rom's that are in the dev section. I have tried HCv4, Froyo, CM7 and Stock.
I really liked honeycomb the best but for some reason a few apps I need were force closing on me, namely IMDB and Aldiko(yes I still use my nook primarily as a reading device.) I didn't spend too much time trying to figure out why they were closing, if anyone has an answer to that it would be appreciated as I will reinstall honeycomb in a heartbeat. At this point hopefully it won't be long until we see a new version based on the SDK so might be prudent to wait for that. I didn't run v4 long enough to judge battery usage so can't comment.
Next up CM7, I liked this rom as well but found it had high battery drain which kind of irked me a little, I guess not a huge deal but was annoying. I believe it is something to do with not going fully asleep from what I learned but reading through the threads, I am sure this will be worked out soon and this will be a viable option.
Next was latest version of the customized Froyo. This is another nice rom which I am currently testing out on my NC. All apps I have tried seem to work fine so far. It was a little tricky getting market working on the newest version. I think the problem is the newest version uses EXT4 for system/data but still wants to use EXT3 for cache and this seems to cause some initial issues. I think it could be resolved just by changing the cache mount command at startup to mount as EXT4, maybe this will be sorted in the next release. Other than that so far so good. Also I haven't been running it long enough to gauge battery usage yet. Also does anyone know if you can remove the softkeys app? Uninstall is greyed out for that app for some reason. I remapped my hardware volume keys to menu/back so I don't really need softkeys any more.
Lastly the stock rooted 1.1. I ran this for about a week(I have only had my NC for a little over a week). I liked the stock but found I didn't use the B&N factory apps much if at all so figured I may as well try some of the other versions out and this is what lead me on the adventure above. Battery usage seemed great on the stock 1.1 root. It would easily last me a 2-3 days with normal usage for me which includes a couple hours of reading during my commute to work and a little web surfing and such in the evening and possibly throughout the day at work.
For now I am going to run Froyo for a few days to see how I like it. If an SDK based Honeycomb comes out I will definitely try that and once the bugs are worked out in CM7 I may try it again as well.
Kevin

I'm running CM7, I'd love it if I could get Youtube to work period. It would be nice if I could get apps to stop force closing on me all the time too. Once these issues can be fixed I'll love me some CM7.

Another vote here for CM7 on the SD card. I'm not yet completely comfortable with flashing my ROM on the Nook just yet and I like trying out different builds till I find the one I really want to stick with.
CM7 sounds pretty impressive though, I'll admit.

I can see that CM7 has a clear majority of votes...but HCv4 has work flawlessly for me. I run the 1.1 OC'd kernel, and it is very fast and very stable.
I suspect it depends on what apps you like to run, and while I have installed quite a few from the market, I spend most of my "nook time" using it as a reader. I use the B&N reader. Kindel and Aldiko, and all three work perfectly for me.
Having said that, I also understand that not everyone has had as satisfactory an experience as I have. While it was not all that hard to get up and running, it was also not a simple "press the button" install. I used the first version of the flashable eMMC package that samuelhalff put together a couple of weeks back, and "way back then" there were a number of small tweaks needed to get things like ADHOC wireless & Market running.

DeadlyDa said:
I can see that CM7 has a clear majority of votes...but HCv4 has work flawlessly for me. I run the 1.1 OC'd kernel, and it is very fast and very stable.
I suspect it depends on what apps you like to run, and while I have installed quite a few from the market, I spend most of my "nook time" using it as a reader. I use the B&N reader. Kindel and Aldiko, and all three work perfectly for me.
Having said that, I also understand that not everyone has had as satisfactory an experience as I have. While it was not all that hard to get up and running, it was also not a simple "press the button" install. I used the first version of the flashable eMMC package that samuelhalff put together a couple of weeks back, and "way back then" there were a number of small tweaks needed to get things like ADHOC wireless & Market running.
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Hmmm I tried out HCv4 last evening and had trouble with Aldiko force closing on me pretty much as soon as it started up. I got the Aldiko 2.0 logo and then it would FC. I tried both the Free and Paid versions. Did you have to do anything special to get it to work?? I also had the same trouble with the IMDB app. I would go back to HC in a heartbeat if I could get Aldiko working properly. I also use my NC primarily as a reader so Aldiko is very important.
Thanks.
Kevin

So is stock 2.1 + root still the best?

I haven't tried any of them yet, but it seems 2.2 or 2.3 or 3.0 have issues or are rough around the edges. It's understandable with honeycomb, but I thought by now there might have been a solid, stable 2.2 or 2.3.
Not complaining, but just thought something would be better than the stock 2.1 by this point. I was hoping for a speed increase with 2.2+ as there are some android git optimizations that 2.1 lacks, but yet I read that 2.1 for nc is still the most responsive.

Many people have reported much better bechmark scores with 2.2 and 2.3, and overall the feeling from those who run 2.2 or 2.3 is that they are more snappy than the stock 2.1. So far as being faster, the custom builds are probably generally better.
However, in terms of stability and compatibility it is my humble opinion that the stock 2.1 is still the winner. The CM7 build of 2.3 is getting pretty close, but still lacks some pretty important features. They will get there eventually...probably pretty soon....but I actually use my device quite heavily (at home and for work) and don't want to have to deal with 'minor' issues on a daily basis. I think that the Froyo build is going to fall out of favor - the CM7 build is better, more updated, and much more supported by the CM7 team with nightly builds. I am not sure about Honeycomb...haven't heard any real updates there in a while.
I am waiting for most of the wrinkles to get worked out for the CM7 version of 2.3. They do great work and if past performance is any indication once they get a solid and stable build it will be hard to beat. For now, my overclocked version of 2.1 does everything I want, is extremely stable, has very few software compatibility problems, and is certainly fast enough.

Thanks for the reply. You say the froyo build is probably going to fall out of favour over the cm7 build. Isn't the cm7 build based on froyo?

CM7 build is based on Gingerbread.

CM7 is based on 2.3 which is Gingerbread (Froyo is 2.2)
Confusingly, the upcoming 2.4 is also Gingerbread (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history)
EDIT: What he said! ^

As of this time, for day to day stable use, stock rooted. That's my opinion. Too many quirks and resets and "can't boot again" and other misc stuff that seems to randomly happen on the rest.
That'll change eventually, hopefully soonish, I would really love me some solid Froyo.

xdajunkman said:
I think that the Froyo build is going to fall out of favor - the CM7 build is better, more updated, and much more supported by the CM7 team with nightly builds.
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But right now the Froyo build is where its at. CM7 lacks working Youtube among other things. With the current Froyo build you get speed, working Youtube, and many working apps.

Stock rooted has no Flash correct? I think I'll be waiting until CM7 is finalized before I start rooting anything.

poofyhairguy said:
But right now the Froyo build is where its at. CM7 lacks working Youtube among other things. With the current Froyo build you get speed, working Youtube, and many working apps.
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I have plenty of speed on 2.1 overclocked at 1.1ghz, my YouTube works just fine (the app that is), and I have yet to find an app I want that doesn't work that would work on Froyo.
Yes...no Flash...but from what I have heard the Flash on Froyo is far from perfect...a bit choppy at best. Actually, no Flash is not quite correct...there is an older version of Flash that runs on 2.1 (Flash 9.something)...so you can veiw some older Flash content on the stock Eclair.
To each their own...

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Many people have reported much better bechmark scores with 2.2 and 2.3, and overall the feeling from those who run 2.2 or 2.3 is that they are more snappy than the stock 2.1.
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It amazes me that people say this. Not saying they are wrong, I just wonder what magic nooks they are using that I don't have.
I've tried two different cards (a class 4 and a class 10, which really is class 10 fast) on two different nooks (mine and my wife's) and almost a dozen different install attempts of 0.6.7. and 0.6.8 and they have all been less "snappy".
It took me quite awhile to even get decent wifi speeds, and I still don't know what I did differently to get it right on the last install (different cards, different nooks, different wifi routers, clear-market-caching and clear-framework-data-ing till I'm blue in the face didn't do it).
I get back on my rooted BN1.1 eclair and breath a sigh of relief at the improved responsiveness and usability. Does anyone know what the secret sauce is to get froyo to REALLY feel better?
That said, I'm more than happy with the 2.1 nook; it's a great tablet and loads of fun. The dev community is fantastic and I've had a ball with all of the experimentation. Keep it up!

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I have plenty of speed on 2.1 overclocked at 1.1ghz, my YouTube works just fine (the app that is), and I have yet to find an app I want that doesn't work that would work on Froyo.
Yes...no Flash...but from what I have heard the Flash on Froyo is far from perfect...a bit choppy at best. Actually, no Flash is not quite correct...there is an older version of Flash that runs on 2.1 (Flash 9.something)...so you can veiw some older Flash content on the stock Eclair.
To each their own...
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Can I ask whether a 10-min youtube playback is choppy in your nc? Cause mine is choppy sometimes...

I tried nookie froyo and it was really slow. Stock rom is much faster and reliable. I've heard honeycomb runs much better than froyo. I've seen videos and it looks good. The only think i can complain about stock rom is the lack of flash player

I've tried stock rooted, sdcard froyo, and emmc froyo, and I've run into minor issues/flaws with all of them, but the current emmc froyo (for me, at least) has the least amount of problems and the speed over slow eclair and my class 4 sdcard made it worth flashing. It's currently my daily driver.
If/when official CM7 comes out with, I'll probably give it a whirl, but I'm happy with my froyo build right now.

Maybe it'll bite me eventually... But i just put froyo 2.2 on my nook, and it runs so much better off the internal memory

wintwelve said:
Can I ask whether a 10-min youtube playback is choppy in your nc? Cause mine is choppy sometimes...
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I don't use YouTube much...but when I have used it I do not notice any problems. I am sure that it depends on the quality of the video, but I have played cartoon episodes that are several minutes long without any delays or playback problems.

swoozle said:
It amazes me that people say this. Not saying they are wrong, I just wonder what magic nooks they are using that I don't have.
I've tried two different cards (a class 4 and a class 10, which really is class 10 fast) on two different nooks (mine and my wife's) and almost a dozen different install attempts of 0.6.7. and 0.6.8 and they have all been less "snappy".
It took me quite awhile to even get decent wifi speeds, and I still don't know what I did differently to get it right on the last install (different cards, different nooks, different wifi routers, clear-market-caching and clear-framework-data-ing till I'm blue in the face didn't do it).
I get back on my rooted BN1.1 eclair and breath a sigh of relief at the improved responsiveness and usability. Does anyone know what the secret sauce is to get froyo to REALLY feel better?
That said, I'm more than happy with the 2.1 nook; it's a great tablet and loads of fun. The dev community is fantastic and I've had a ball with all of the experimentation. Keep it up!
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I agree on all accounts. I also have played with Froyo and Honeycomb on SD and have not personally seen the speed improvements others have reported. Perhaps it is better if installed to internal memory.

Definitely better installed to emmc. Been through Stock rooted, nookie 0.6.8, and HC. HC is sweet, softkeys and interface are great. but lack of key apps in the market is a bummer. nookie 0.6.8 ver 3 has been my everyday driver, no complaints over here.

I'm using cm7, nightly 7 and I like it better than stock. It does feel a bit snappier (but honestly I never had any issues with speed on rooted 2.1 so it could be in my head.) I know there's no DSP, but I don't plan on watching movies any time soon so that's fine for me. I like the UI alot...I like having built in copy/paste, I like having flash, and I like not having to worry about BN pushing out updates that could screw up my root. I'm only a few days into having used CM7, but as of now I'm really happy with my choice.

I've been running Honeycomb v4 2ed on a development Nook for awhile. I think it shows great potential! But the Nook I take with me is 1.1.0 with a 1.1ghz kernel. Fast, stable & very reliable.
I have to say. I'm really looking forward to seeing the Honeycomb AOSP drop! This thing is going to be Great.

I'm really enjoying stock 1.1 rooted. It has everything I could ask for in a value tablet and more. (Browsing, video, music, apps) The stability has been great...knock on wood. I was hell bent on buying an iPad before I purchased the nook color. I dont think I'll need an ipad, or anything else for that matter anymore.

What's the best internal rom?

Ok, I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of nook roms out there, and I would like to know what everyone uses and why.
I've tried 2, and they all have benefits/negatives and I'm trying to figure out which to be my daily driver, while we wait for the next generation of roms to come about.

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Ok, I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of nook roms out there, and I would like to know what everyone uses and why.
I've tried 2, and they all have benefits/negatives and I'm trying to figure out which to be my daily driver, while we wait for the next generation of roms to come about.
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well which 2 have you already tried?

I personally use CyanogenMod 7, but that's because I use it on my Droid, and that's because it's the first ROM I found when I got my droid.
I haven't had it crash on me yet, but there was a Wi-Fi problem I had to fix through ADB. (Link) Otherwise, it's been more than good enough for a daily driver. I really haven't had experience with other ROMs. I just flashed the thing with CM7 while I was still in B&N. I would recommend a Honeycomb ROM, but that's not very "complete" yet.
Sorry I can't say much else (), but I gave my $.02.

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well which 2 have you already tried?
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I wasn't going to mention them so I could hear everyone's full opinion despite what I've tried and not hold back because I've tried it.
However, I don't want to be a **** so it's cm7 and HC v.4 now don't let that sway your opinions!

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I personally use CyanogenMod 7, but that's because I use it on my Droid, and that's because it's the first ROM I found when I got my droid.
I haven't had it crash on me yet, but there was a Wi-Fi problem I had to fix through ADB. (Link) Otherwise, it's been more than good enough for a daily driver. I really haven't had experience with other ROMs. I just flashed the thing with CM7 while I was still in B&N. I would recommend a Honeycomb ROM, but that's not very "complete" yet.
Sorry I can't say much else (), but I gave my $.02.
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I was having the wifi issues to (Atleast I assume it's the same, I would just lose connection and have to reconnect pretty consistently) the thing that actually bothered me most about it was the back and menu buttons up at the top right. To small, wanted a different more tablety layout.

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I was having the wifi issues to (Atleast I assume it's the same, I would just lose connection and have to reconnect pretty consistently) the thing that actually bothered me most about it was the back and menu buttons up at the top right. To small, wanted a different more tablety layout.
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Oh, no the Wi-Fi issue was much worse. I couldn't get the chip to activate! At least the fix worked, though.
If "too small" is the problem, increase the LCD Density.
If you want a more tablet-like layout, you will have to deal with Honeycomb in its current state.
If you don't like the CM7 buttons, use SoftKeys or Button Savior.
(I would post links, but I can't.)

I tried soft keys, but I haven't tried button savior. and didn't know about lcd density. If I go back (which isn't in my nature with roms) I may try it out.
I'm really liking honeycomb especially as far as layout, but I would like a bit more stability. But really I Can live with whatever, the nook is really my fourth internet device and currently just a toy.

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I tried soft keys, but I haven't tried button savior. and didn't know about lcd density. If I go back (which isn't in my nature with roms) I may try it out.
I'm really liking honeycomb especially as far as layout, but I would like a bit more stability. But really I Can live with whatever, the nook is really my fourth internet device and currently just a toy.
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The solution is patience, then.
Wait for the Google to give us the source, and all your problems will be solved.
(Don't forget that HC is a port of the SDK emulator image.)

well I knew that, that's why I wanted to know what everyone else is using so maybe I could try some other things out... during that wait it out time

Well... if you want to try a Galaxy Tab-like experience, try this:
Install Nookie Froyo
Set LCD Density to 250
Install ADW and set the app drawer to paged.
(Continue with other minor tweaks here)

i'm rolling nookie froyo 0.6.7, but i'm going to move up to 0.6.8 soon. i like it, but i'm sure honeycomb is much better. since the bugs in hc for the nook color are still being hammered out, though, i'm going to stick with the stable froyo rom for the time being.

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Well... if you want to try a Galaxy Tab-like experience, try this:
Install Nookie Froyo
Set LCD Density to 250
Install ADW and set the app drawer to paged.
(Continue with other minor tweaks here)
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Is this rom an actual port of the tab, or is it just made to look like the tab?
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i'm rolling nookie froyo 0.6.7, but i'm going to move up to 0.6.8 soon. i like it, but i'm sure honeycomb is much better. since the bugs in hc for the nook color are still being hammered out, though, i'm going to stick with the stable froyo rom for the time being.
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Yeah this is kind of the info I was looking for, trying to see which roms had what features and still had the best stability.
HC is awesome, but not yet a daily driver (unless you're the adventurous type) I have a friend who is about to buy a nc for himself and he wants me to root it for him. I have no problems with a buggy rom for me, but for him I need stable yet best.

not sure where you are getting the idea that there are so many roms to choose from.
We have stock rooted, nookie froyo, honeycomb v3 and cyanogenmod (gingerbread).
there is one modified version of cyanogenmod -- firemod and one customized nookie froyo build. thats about it as far as i know... am i missing a bunch of roms somewhere?
you can try all of them out relatively quickly and form your own opinion but if you insist....
stock rooted is the most functional option at the moment. oc to 1100mhz for speed and other tweaks. nookie froyo is second with faster overall 'smoothness' but still has some bugs to work out. third is cyanogenmod which is quickly catching up to froyo and is my personal favorite. just needs video acceleration at this point. last is honeycomb but very fun to play with.

lafester said:
not sure where you are getting the idea that there are so many roms to choose from.
We have stock rooted, nookie froyo, honeycomb v3 and cyanogenmod (gingerbread).
there is one modified version of cyanogenmod -- firemod and one customized nookie froyo build. thats about it as far as i know... am i missing a bunch of roms somewhere?
you can try all of them out relatively quickly and form your own opinion but if you insist....
stock rooted is the most functional option at the moment. oc to 1100mhz for speed and other tweaks. nookie froyo is second with faster overall 'smoothness' but still has some bugs to work out. third is cyanogenmod which is quickly catching up to froyo and is my personal favorite. just needs video acceleration at this point. last is honeycomb but very fun to play with.
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That might be all of them, it seems a bit more for anyone walking into this dev thread, with the internal and on sdcard roms.
But seeing them listed out like this is very helpful thank you!
Is there large differences between the customized roms and their noncustomized origins?

personally id recommend rooted stock rom. Ive tried nookie froyo and honeycomb v4. Froyo was really slow. It was really frustrating browsing with it. Honeycomb is much faster than froyo but a lot of apps dont install. Stock rom was stable and I wasnt able to install just a couple of apps that I tried from the android market

personally, i'm only adventurous to the point of rooting. after that, i want stability. i don't mind staying a release or 2 behind the most recent releases just so i know the issues are being dealt with.
with froyo, i'm able to use my own launcher and customize pretty much to my liking. i still don't see all the apps i want in the market, but there are enough forum posts here and on android central that link you to apk downloads so that you can install them through adb. i've seen some fixes for this, but it seems to be an issue on both froyo and hc. hope this helps!

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personally id recommend rooted stock rom. Ive tried nookie froyo and honeycomb v4. Froyo was really slow. It was really frustrating browsing with it. Honeycomb is much faster than froyo but a lot of apps dont install. Stock rom was stable and I wasnt able to install just a couple of apps that I tried from the android market
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I didn't like how much the stock rom seemed like, well a nook color which is great but in this instance I wanted to get a tablet!
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personally, i'm only adventurous to the point of rooting. after that, i want stability. i don't mind staying a release or 2 behind the most recent releases just so i know the issues are being dealt with.
with froyo, i'm able to use my own launcher and customize pretty much to my liking. i still don't see all the apps i want in the market, but there are enough forum posts here and on android central that link you to apk downloads so that you can install them through adb. i've seen some fixes for this, but it seems to be an issue on both froyo and hc. hope this helps!
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With my phone, I'm less adventurous, I have calmed down to where now I only put release candidate and stable cm roms.
However I got this nook for a really really great deal (100$ plus the cover) and I want to try out whatever I can (and if possible help, though I have little to none coding skills) I might have to try the froyo build out since it's technically the only one I Haven't tried based on the above list (minus the 2 custom roms)

I kinda wish there was a customized version of the stock rom.
I guess the oc kernel counts?

zealious said:
I kinda wish there was a customized version of the stock rom.
I guess the oc kernel counts?
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I actually just bought setcpu to try overclocking the kernals a little bit on my NC.
What would You customize about stock?

after flashing back to froyo i must say it is far better then I remembered.
maybe it's the newer kernels but it is fast and smooth. hardware video works which i was missing on cm7.
so i change my (current) order to nookie froyo, then stock rooted, followed by cm7 and then honeycomb. i would try them all though and see for yourself.

ManualNooter

I love this! I listened to all the "experts" on he board and ran CM7 on the SD since getting my Nook. I couldn't run it EMMC because I have to have NC Stock to read my books(my young daughter loves the interactive ones). I hated CM7! Not the OS itself just the fact that A: it saw sluggish and frustrating to use and B: my battery went down faster than Paris Hilton at Bike Week. The first I can see was simply a result of running an OS from the SD card, can't be avoided. The other, well, I guess full blown android just takes more battery. So for months I have barely used it as anything but a reader at all.
Then last week I decided to try ManualNooter just to see what all the fuss was about. WOW what a difference! THIS Is what I should have been using all along. I can run any app, use any launcher, use the OC/UN Kernal, and still get great battery life and do all of this from the on board memory without being tied to an SD card and I still get to use all my books. Perfect!
So for any of you who find tourself hating your grindy, sluggish SD card CM7, give this a try! You don't even have to wipe your data, it's painless and easy! Thanks whoever developed this thing!
Note this is not a bash on CM which in itself is a great OS i just think it's crap running from an SD or at least it was for me! But i loved it when it wasn't driving me to drinking and making me punch things.

I think if you had tried one of the recent nightly's you would have liked CM7 better - battery life to me seems about the same as stock. The quality of your SD card makes a huge difference on running CM7 from it. Basically if your SD card is Sandisk then it will run fairly well, if other brand then will be laggy. Most manufacturers work on fast large write speed, but Sandisk has fast small write speed which is what you need to run an OS from it.
Having said all that, manual Nooter is nice, I just prefer CM7, but I don't need the interactive books.

You fail to mention what brand your sd card and what version of cm7 you were using. Sandisk + latest nightly should fix your problems.
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koopakid08 said:
You fail to mention what brand your sd card and what version of cm7 you were using. Sandisk + latest nightly should fix your problems.
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I was using my original SD from my Evo if that helps. Didn't look at the brand. It shipped with my Evo, which was bought in Jan of this year if that helps.
edit: Just had a look it's a Samsung 8gb that came with the Evo. And I was using the latest stable.
In the end, I fail to see how CM7 is better than what I have now. Maybe that's just my ignorance but Im not seeing the advantage. So far I haven't found anything that CM7 will do that Nook Stock rooted isn't. Can you mention a few things? I'd be interested to know, but as it stands everything works even Netflix, so for now at least I'm good. Haven't noticed anything not working.

Landara said:
I was using my original SD from my Evo if that helps. Didn't look at the brand. It shipped with my Evo, which was bought in Jan of this year if that helps.
edit: Just had a look it's a Samsung 8gb that came with the Evo. And I was using the latest stable.
In the end, I fail to see how CM7 is better than what I have now. Maybe that's just my ignorance but Im not seeing the advantage. So far I haven't found anything that CM7 will do that Nook Stock rooted isn't. Can you mention a few things? I'd be interested to know, but as it stands everything works even Netflix, so for now at least I'm good. Haven't noticed anything not working.
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Better performance, tablet optimized full android experience, gingerbread compared to froyo, i believe stock also does not have Bluetooth support, new updates nightly, list goes on for awhile but I personally have no love for stock so my opinion might be a little one-sided.
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Landara said:
I was using my original SD from my Evo if that helps. Didn't look at the brand. It shipped with my Evo, which was bought in Jan of this year if that helps.
edit: Just had a look it's a Samsung 8gb that came with the Evo. And I was using the latest stable.
In the end, I fail to see how CM7 is better than what I have now. Maybe that's just my ignorance but Im not seeing the advantage. So far I haven't found anything that CM7 will do that Nook Stock rooted isn't. Can you mention a few things? I'd be interested to know, but as it stands everything works even Netflix, so for now at least I'm good. Haven't noticed anything not working.
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I run CM7 off an SD card (sandisk class 4) and it's smooth as silk - note that the latest nightlies are light years ahead of "stable". It's just able to get more out of the nook than rooted stock is and battery life is every bit as good if not better. What can it do that stock can't? Technically probably nothing, it just does it better.
Now, having said all that, I still love rooted stock. If you want a reader on steroids, then rooted stock is fantastic - and there are still some things about the stock reader app I like better than any of the other reader apps. If you want what amounts to full function 7" tablet, then CM7 is probably better for you. It kind of depends on your tastes. I have one of each in the house and can't say anything bad about either one.

doncaruana said:
I run CM7 off an SD card (sandisk class 4) and it's smooth as silk - note that the latest nightlies are light years ahead of "stable". It's just able to get more out of the nook than rooted stock is and battery life is every bit as good if not better. What can it do that stock can't? Technically probably nothing, it just does it better.
Now, having said all that, I still love rooted stock. If you want a reader on steroids, then rooted stock is fantastic - and there are still some things about the stock reader app I like better than any of the other reader apps. If you want what amounts to full function 7" tablet, then CM7 is probably better for you. It kind of depends on your tastes. I have one of each in the house and can't say anything bad about either one.
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Maybe I will try CM7 now again. After all I can still use the CM7 SD card concept since my rooted ROM is actually on EMMC. I never tried one of the nightlies. Maybe I should.

Landara,
I'm with you on this. I had been running CM7 and MIUI off the emmc than decided I wanted to try the stock 1.3 software. I found that really liked the clean lines and simplicity of the stock UI but missed the ability to install market apps so I kept 1.3 on the emmc and set up a CM7 sd card. Used a Patriot Class 6 card and it ran ok when I first booted up but as I added apps it slowed down to a snails pace. I decided to install ManualNooter (which does work with 1.3 for those that have wondered). This ran great! Smooth as silk with market access but I still couldn't side-load apps so I flashed MiniRooter right on top, which now enables installation of non-market apps. Overclocked to 1.2 and man....does this thing fly. In my opinion, this is the best setup for me.

tsg2513 said:
Landara,
I'm with you on this. I had been running CM7 and MIUI off the emmc than decided I wanted to try the stock 1.3 software. I found that really liked the clean lines and simplicity of the stock UI but missed the ability to install market apps so I kept 1.3 on the emmc and set up a CM7 sd card. Used a Patriot Class 6 card and it ran ok when I first booted up but as I added apps it slowed down to a snails pace. I decided to install ManualNooter (which does work with 1.3 for those that have wondered). This ran great! Smooth as silk with market access but I still couldn't side-load apps so I flashed MiniRooter right on top, which now enables installation of non-market apps. Overclocked to 1.2 and man....does this thing fly. In my opinion, this is the best setup for me.
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FYI there is an app called Nook Color Tools created here by the XDA cooks which allows you to do several good things one of which is sideload apps provided you move them to a certain folder. It also allows you to change keyboards.

tsg2513 said:
Landara,
I'm with you on this. I had been running CM7 and MIUI off the emmc than decided I wanted to try the stock 1.3 software. I found that really liked the clean lines and simplicity of the stock UI but missed the ability to install market apps so I kept 1.3 on the emmc and set up a CM7 sd card. Used a Patriot Class 6 card and it ran ok when I first booted up but as I added apps it slowed down to a snails pace. I decided to install ManualNooter (which does work with 1.3 for those that have wondered). This ran great! Smooth as silk with market access but I still couldn't side-load apps so I flashed MiniRooter right on top, which now enables installation of non-market apps. Overclocked to 1.2 and man....does this thing fly. In my opinion, this is the best setup for me.
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Manual Nooter comes with Nook Color Tools, so you can choose non market from there and side load away.
From what I've read, the only thing you can't do when you use MN on 1.3 is move apps to SD. It can cause corruption of app, but I'm sure that will be fixed soon.
I was rooted with MN 1.2 (LOVED IT), and occasionally ran cm7 nightlies off SD(Sandisk 8gb class4). Just got zapped with the 1.3 update, so I'm waiting a few days to see what happens to MN, before rerooting.
I agree with OP Manual Nooter is way better for me, battery, + Netflix, Nook Reader, and no hang.

Honeycomb v3.1 vs CM 7.1.0 for nook

Hi Guys,
I'm planning to install my first custom ROM on nook color. However, I am wondering how good is honeycomb port on nook. Ideally and I know the right answer is to try it out myself both and find out, but I don't have enough time to try out both since I have to give away the nook to someone.
I have honeycomb on my EEE transformer and really love it...that's why i'm favoring for HC but still if anyone can anyone details pros and cons for both HC and CM7, regarding stability, battery life and overall quirks, bugs and performance, it would be really helpful..
Regards,

HC isn't really ready for the NC.. its very buggy and still has several issues running on the NC. cm7 is very stable and well running few problems at all. just my 2 cents

Since honeycomb isnt open source, the Nook port is made from the SDK rather than source. As such, its incredibly buggy and very slow. Dont get me wrong, its impressive that it works in the first place. But by no means is it a daily driver.
CM7 is the way to go unless you absolutely must have HC app compatibility. Even if you do, we'll have ICS in a few months.

Another vote for CM7. I tried an older release of the Honeycomb port and it was pretty bad -- very laggy and a lot of stuff didn't work. Several people have said that it's not really much better even now since we don't have an official release of HC's source. I ended up going back to stock for a long time until I tried CM7. They have done great work, and even though it's based on a "phone OS" (Gingerbread), it's adapted very well to the Nook.

Thanks for reply guys..
Actually I just saw some videos of NC running HC, so I got excited..didn't know it was that buggy..i'll put CM7 on it today

Mafioso said:
Thanks for reply guys..
Actually I just saw some videos of NC running HC, so I got excited..didn't know it was that buggy..i'll put CM7 on it today
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HC may be buggy, but some of the lag that a lot of people experience is because they install it to SD and their SD card is a low class giving it lower read speed. And the default launcher is terribly slow and buggy. If you decide to use it, use a lightweight launcher like zeam.
If you're still interested in trying it out, look into dual booting it and cm7. That's what I currently have set up.

I know this ROM was not included in your original question buy I highly recommend MIUI. I have found it to be incredibly stable and fast and the UI just looks great on the NC. I have tried CM7, Phiremod, and Honeycomb and to me the look and feel of MIUI just seems to fit the NC. Anyways, just my two cents : )

when i used to have my NC dual booted with Phiremod and Honeycomb i hated using the Honeycomb because it was glitchy and slow.. i went to using CM7 Nightly 150 and havent looked back.. it runs smooth as can be, is overclocked to 1.2 ghz, and battery life is with reading alot and searching the web ( 2-4 hrs of usage a day ) i can get a solid 4-5 days on one charge... if i only use it for an hour or so a day easily 9 days.. CM7 works great and you can theme it to look like honeycomb in alot of ways..

It's not even close. Honeycomb is pathetic. Go with CM7.
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I have a Transformer too and would love to see Honeycomb on the Nook but I'd rather wait for ICS on both
I have a feeling that ICS will run better on the Nook than HC does but that is just speculation.
These developer at XDA rock so I have faith they'll make it happen as soon as Google releases the code. Yeah, I believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy

I have a feeling that ICS will run better on the Nook than HC does but that is just speculation.
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Of course it will as long as the source code is available.