I love this! I listened to all the "experts" on he board and ran CM7 on the SD since getting my Nook. I couldn't run it EMMC because I have to have NC Stock to read my books(my young daughter loves the interactive ones). I hated CM7! Not the OS itself just the fact that A: it saw sluggish and frustrating to use and B: my battery went down faster than Paris Hilton at Bike Week. The first I can see was simply a result of running an OS from the SD card, can't be avoided. The other, well, I guess full blown android just takes more battery. So for months I have barely used it as anything but a reader at all.
Then last week I decided to try ManualNooter just to see what all the fuss was about. WOW what a difference! THIS Is what I should have been using all along. I can run any app, use any launcher, use the OC/UN Kernal, and still get great battery life and do all of this from the on board memory without being tied to an SD card and I still get to use all my books. Perfect!
So for any of you who find tourself hating your grindy, sluggish SD card CM7, give this a try! You don't even have to wipe your data, it's painless and easy! Thanks whoever developed this thing!
Note this is not a bash on CM which in itself is a great OS i just think it's crap running from an SD or at least it was for me! But i loved it when it wasn't driving me to drinking and making me punch things.
I think if you had tried one of the recent nightly's you would have liked CM7 better - battery life to me seems about the same as stock. The quality of your SD card makes a huge difference on running CM7 from it. Basically if your SD card is Sandisk then it will run fairly well, if other brand then will be laggy. Most manufacturers work on fast large write speed, but Sandisk has fast small write speed which is what you need to run an OS from it.
Having said all that, manual Nooter is nice, I just prefer CM7, but I don't need the interactive books.
You fail to mention what brand your sd card and what version of cm7 you were using. Sandisk + latest nightly should fix your problems.
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You fail to mention what brand your sd card and what version of cm7 you were using. Sandisk + latest nightly should fix your problems.
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I was using my original SD from my Evo if that helps. Didn't look at the brand. It shipped with my Evo, which was bought in Jan of this year if that helps.
edit: Just had a look it's a Samsung 8gb that came with the Evo. And I was using the latest stable.
In the end, I fail to see how CM7 is better than what I have now. Maybe that's just my ignorance but Im not seeing the advantage. So far I haven't found anything that CM7 will do that Nook Stock rooted isn't. Can you mention a few things? I'd be interested to know, but as it stands everything works even Netflix, so for now at least I'm good. Haven't noticed anything not working.
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I was using my original SD from my Evo if that helps. Didn't look at the brand. It shipped with my Evo, which was bought in Jan of this year if that helps.
edit: Just had a look it's a Samsung 8gb that came with the Evo. And I was using the latest stable.
In the end, I fail to see how CM7 is better than what I have now. Maybe that's just my ignorance but Im not seeing the advantage. So far I haven't found anything that CM7 will do that Nook Stock rooted isn't. Can you mention a few things? I'd be interested to know, but as it stands everything works even Netflix, so for now at least I'm good. Haven't noticed anything not working.
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Better performance, tablet optimized full android experience, gingerbread compared to froyo, i believe stock also does not have Bluetooth support, new updates nightly, list goes on for awhile but I personally have no love for stock so my opinion might be a little one-sided.
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I was using my original SD from my Evo if that helps. Didn't look at the brand. It shipped with my Evo, which was bought in Jan of this year if that helps.
edit: Just had a look it's a Samsung 8gb that came with the Evo. And I was using the latest stable.
In the end, I fail to see how CM7 is better than what I have now. Maybe that's just my ignorance but Im not seeing the advantage. So far I haven't found anything that CM7 will do that Nook Stock rooted isn't. Can you mention a few things? I'd be interested to know, but as it stands everything works even Netflix, so for now at least I'm good. Haven't noticed anything not working.
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I run CM7 off an SD card (sandisk class 4) and it's smooth as silk - note that the latest nightlies are light years ahead of "stable". It's just able to get more out of the nook than rooted stock is and battery life is every bit as good if not better. What can it do that stock can't? Technically probably nothing, it just does it better.
Now, having said all that, I still love rooted stock. If you want a reader on steroids, then rooted stock is fantastic - and there are still some things about the stock reader app I like better than any of the other reader apps. If you want what amounts to full function 7" tablet, then CM7 is probably better for you. It kind of depends on your tastes. I have one of each in the house and can't say anything bad about either one.
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I run CM7 off an SD card (sandisk class 4) and it's smooth as silk - note that the latest nightlies are light years ahead of "stable". It's just able to get more out of the nook than rooted stock is and battery life is every bit as good if not better. What can it do that stock can't? Technically probably nothing, it just does it better.
Now, having said all that, I still love rooted stock. If you want a reader on steroids, then rooted stock is fantastic - and there are still some things about the stock reader app I like better than any of the other reader apps. If you want what amounts to full function 7" tablet, then CM7 is probably better for you. It kind of depends on your tastes. I have one of each in the house and can't say anything bad about either one.
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Maybe I will try CM7 now again. After all I can still use the CM7 SD card concept since my rooted ROM is actually on EMMC. I never tried one of the nightlies. Maybe I should.
Landara,
I'm with you on this. I had been running CM7 and MIUI off the emmc than decided I wanted to try the stock 1.3 software. I found that really liked the clean lines and simplicity of the stock UI but missed the ability to install market apps so I kept 1.3 on the emmc and set up a CM7 sd card. Used a Patriot Class 6 card and it ran ok when I first booted up but as I added apps it slowed down to a snails pace. I decided to install ManualNooter (which does work with 1.3 for those that have wondered). This ran great! Smooth as silk with market access but I still couldn't side-load apps so I flashed MiniRooter right on top, which now enables installation of non-market apps. Overclocked to 1.2 and man....does this thing fly. In my opinion, this is the best setup for me.
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Landara,
I'm with you on this. I had been running CM7 and MIUI off the emmc than decided I wanted to try the stock 1.3 software. I found that really liked the clean lines and simplicity of the stock UI but missed the ability to install market apps so I kept 1.3 on the emmc and set up a CM7 sd card. Used a Patriot Class 6 card and it ran ok when I first booted up but as I added apps it slowed down to a snails pace. I decided to install ManualNooter (which does work with 1.3 for those that have wondered). This ran great! Smooth as silk with market access but I still couldn't side-load apps so I flashed MiniRooter right on top, which now enables installation of non-market apps. Overclocked to 1.2 and man....does this thing fly. In my opinion, this is the best setup for me.
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FYI there is an app called Nook Color Tools created here by the XDA cooks which allows you to do several good things one of which is sideload apps provided you move them to a certain folder. It also allows you to change keyboards.
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Landara,
I'm with you on this. I had been running CM7 and MIUI off the emmc than decided I wanted to try the stock 1.3 software. I found that really liked the clean lines and simplicity of the stock UI but missed the ability to install market apps so I kept 1.3 on the emmc and set up a CM7 sd card. Used a Patriot Class 6 card and it ran ok when I first booted up but as I added apps it slowed down to a snails pace. I decided to install ManualNooter (which does work with 1.3 for those that have wondered). This ran great! Smooth as silk with market access but I still couldn't side-load apps so I flashed MiniRooter right on top, which now enables installation of non-market apps. Overclocked to 1.2 and man....does this thing fly. In my opinion, this is the best setup for me.
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Manual Nooter comes with Nook Color Tools, so you can choose non market from there and side load away.
From what I've read, the only thing you can't do when you use MN on 1.3 is move apps to SD. It can cause corruption of app, but I'm sure that will be fixed soon.
I was rooted with MN 1.2 (LOVED IT), and occasionally ran cm7 nightlies off SD(Sandisk 8gb class4). Just got zapped with the 1.3 update, so I'm waiting a few days to see what happens to MN, before rerooting.
I agree with OP Manual Nooter is way better for me, battery, + Netflix, Nook Reader, and no hang.
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Hey Guys
Just installed Honeycomb with the marketplace for a couple days now. The most frequent problems that i run to are:
1. Web Browser: really slow. the pinch and zoom function takes a while to respond.
2. Youtube - still no worky? any ideas?
3. alot of my programs randomly and often forces closes on me.
any help is appreciated!
Thank you!
Go into the thread titled something about cm gapps.. flash it through a cwr card. That fixed tons of my issues. I was benching 500's oc'd and now im at 1500+. It runs a bunch smoother too... i think its the gingerbread framework
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Its a pretty decent hack that's based on the emulator images...
I'm honestly pleasantly surprised that it works for anyone...
From my experience, and from what I understand,
you cannot expect HC to be a daily ROM yet. There WILL be FC's and other issues until we have a custom HC ROM built specifically for the Nook.
All of your problems could stem from your SD Card. I've heard a lot of issues happen because yours isn't fast enough, is too fast, wasn't built during the right phase of the moon....
pretty much all my issues were resolved (market still wont show all apps) by flashing it to emmc. I would highly suggest flashing to emmc when the sd card causes the fc issues, i have a card that does this no matter which version of android i boot, and its supposedly class 6. my class 2 (smaller) card is faster.
so, I would say get a dedicated card for backup/restore purposes, back up what you have if you don't want to lose it, then flash it to emmc to resolve FC issues.
worked for me.
thanks for the replies guys.
i wonder if its my sd card.. it is an A-data 8gb class 6 card.
im thinking of going to Froyo for a more stable Operating system.
ive found the samsung units that come stock with the motorola droid (16gb) class 2 work really well... But honestly use the flashable emmc version and call it a day. I did it and love it.. Yeah a few of my apps don't work but the bulk are awesome and the new ui and email app are really great. For me the pros far outweigh the cons... Honey nook is really a great port
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Ok, here's the deal.
Fiancee got me a NC for my birthday because she read that it can be rooted and made into a formidable tablet. I agree with her and am stoked.
I don't have any dev experience, but I'm very familiar with rooting and flashing ROMs to our EVO 4Gs.
However, after reading through the developmental forum, I'm confused as to what steps I need to follow to turn my NC into a CM7 tablet.
Do I run autonooter? (The B&N store updated my NC to the 1.1.0 software yesterday in-store) Which one? Do I run it first?
After that, how do I flash CM7? Is there a more stable system\ROM\build?
With dealing with SD cards, I know this will be a bit against the grain for me because Rooting\Flashing the EVO is so easy and simple.
Any and all help will be appreciated.
(Side note question: Has anyone used a Steinheil Screen Protector on their nook? I see that SGP makes one for the Galaxy Tab, which has similar dimensions as the NC. Anyone?)
This seems like easiest to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9816724&postcount=64
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This seems like easiest to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9816724&postcount=64
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Awesome.
So that "roots" the nook, like SimpleRoot does to my EVO?
And then I go through the process in the CM7 Phiremod post in the Dev forum?
Also - should I go buy a second MicroSD card to use, leaving the current one in the nook as a clean backup?
It's useful to have multiple microSD. I have a couple 2GB microSD for nootering and flashing new rom. I use a 16GB for main use as backup and data storage.
If you're new to Android, I recommend just nootering your stock 1.1 NC because it's most stable. Froyo, Honeycomb, and Gingerbread built are still in development and are being tested.
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I'm not new to Android, as I've been using various CyanogenMod and MIUI builds on my EVO since I bought it last year.
What I am new to is the use of SD cards for flashing. That's where I'm a bit shaky on the steps.
Before you can get a good answer we need more infromation.
1) do you care about the B&N stuff that your Nook came with?
2) what is your goal?
a) e-reader that can do tablet functions
b) Tablet that can do e-reader functions
Do you want to run the alt OS from the SDcard or from the flash memory?
So far there are 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, and 3.0 ROMS for the Nook. Where do you want to be?
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Before you can get a good answer we need more infromation.
1) do you care about the B&N stuff that your Nook came with? - Not really. As long as I have a way to read books that I get off demonoid.
2) what is your goal?
a) e-reader that can do tablet functions
b) Tablet that can do e-reader functions Preferably this.
Do you want to run the alt OS from the SDcard or from the flash memory?
So far there are 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, and 3.0 ROMS for the Nook. Where do you want to be?Are there advantages\disadvantages? Which is the most stable solution to rooting\flashing? I have CM7 on my EVO now, though I'll probably be switching over to the latest MIUI later tonight. I wouldn't mind something similar to CM7 on my NC.
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Does the above help at all?
Bump for some help. Thanks guys.
I've only been a NC owner for a week. From my experience, you need to play a bit. Usual disclaimers apply:
1. spend time playing with the default B&N config. Enjoy. Ok, for me that got boring after about 1 hour.
2. Autonooter 3.0 (since you are on 1.1.0). Then just play with your rooted NC. Enjoy. I was amazed at what this little guy could do after only a root. Test a bunch of apps. Read a bunch on this website. Test more apps that you read about. Try different backup software. Get comfortable with Eclair. Run Quadrant. Enjoy.
3. Dahlingren's OC kernel. Make sure you get the Eclair kernel. I installed the 1100 MHz one, and monitored for overheating and random reboots/force closes etc. This one worked well for me, and amazed me again at how much faster it was (run Quadrant again). Get comfortable with the procedure to flash a rom with CWR. Enjoy.
4. CM7 with OC kernel. Play, test, enjoy. If the current bugs are deal breakers, revert back to Eclair, or try Froyo or some other flavour. Enjoy.
It seems to be darn near impossible to brick this guy, so I haven't worried too much. Worst case scenario is I have a $250 paper weight, but the best case has been worth the risk to me.
Enjoy.
so which one do you currently prefer any why?
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so which one do you currently prefer any why?
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I like Honeycomb on my Tablet because i have Cyanogen on my Phone.
My favorite option isn't listed.
Froyo gives you Flash and working DSP video, something no other option has.
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so which one do you currently prefer any why?
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If you look at the signatures of most Mods on Nook Color Forums, almost all of them are using Nookie Froyo - probably for the reasons mentioned by the poster just before me.
(In fact, it is rumored than B&N will release an update for the stock NC to Froyo at the end of March, and it will include Flash support.)
Does anyone know if there is still the problem with mounting your sd card in HC after installing internally? the reason i as is because the Nook app its self will not work unless a SD card is inserted and mounted. Making the whole original point to the nook color pointless... lol even though it does make an amazing android tab. with 3.0 it would be INCREDIBLE!!! I had 3.0 installed internally but i switched back to autonooter just because i couldn't read any books because of the sd card mount issue. wasn't sure if they had fixed this in Honeycomb V4 version 2 or not. I would love to know if they have.
If so, we know who will installing it tonight! I got a whoppin 1430 Quadrant score when HC was installed. pretty impressive, better than my Droid Inc. running gingerbread lol
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Does anyone know if there is still the problem with mounting your sd card in HC after installing internally? the reason i as is because the Nook app its self will not work unless a SD card is inserted and mounted. Making the whole original point to the nook color pointless... lol even though it does make an amazing android tab. with 3.0 it would be INCREDIBLE!!! I had 3.0 installed internally but i switched back to autonooter just because i couldn't read any books because of the sd card mount issue. wasn't sure if they had fixed this in Honeycomb V4 version 2 or not. I would love to know if they have.
If so, we know who will installing it tonight! I got a whoppin 1430 Quadrant score when HC was installed. pretty impressive, better than my Droid Inc. running gingerbread lol
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i currently am using ver2 and internal memory and SD card both read/write fine =]
neidlinger said:
I like Honeycomb on my Tablet because i have Cyanogen on my Phone.
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same for me - i was just wondering what most people use
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My favorite option isn't listed.
Froyo gives you Flash and working DSP video, something no other option has.
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hmmm thnx for the input - video and flash aren't important to me as i use the nook as a comic & magazine reader... very interesting results so far =P
Yeah FroYo if you want Flash and DSP video. Otherwise CM7 since it runs a little smoother than HC as of right now.
i liked honeycomb becuase of the easy way to switch btween stuff but i am enjoying cm7 most cause it runs really nice
Using CM7 on eMMC until HC AOSP comes out and gets a few releases (figuring there will likely be some annoying bugs in the first couple). I liked the HC interface much more, but it was not as responsive and too many apps didn't run properly. My fiancee and lots of other friends/family play Words with Friends constantly as well, and it doesn't work in HC properly, but it does work flawlessly in CM7 from my experience. I'm not a huge fan of the game, but it is one I would much rather not see broken.
has it been working pretty well for you then?!
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i currently am using ver2 and internal memory and SD card both read/write fine =]
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i like roms with lots of updates and currently that only includes cm7.
may switch back to froyo for awhile though... it was nice being able to watch movies.
snives said:
Using CM7 on eMMC until HC AOSP comes out and gets a few releases (figuring there will likely be some annoying bugs in the first couple). I liked the HC interface much more, but it was not as responsive and too many apps didn't run properly. My fiancee and lots of other friends/family play Words with Friends constantly as well, and it doesn't work in HC properly, but it does work flawlessly in CM7 from my experience. I'm not a huge fan of the game, but it is one I would much rather not see broken.
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Really? words with friends has never worked properly for me... It just does not scale properly on any ROM i've tried... ie the letter tabs are half-off the screen, and refuse to be dragged.
HoneyComb has a far superior UI, but CM7 has far fewer bugs. Eclair was never really stable for me, I've gone to flash Froyo a few times, but the page for the download is really pessimistic and turns me off.
I would really REALLY prefer a stable HoneyComb build. That would be amazing...
the tablet apps are so much better than the default. Plus CM7's notifications pull-down menu really annoys me and should go away. So much wasted screen space...
EDIT: and WHY are the back and menu buttons in the top right? really? pretty much EVERY app has a button right next to them. I try to hit the menu button, and the notification window pulls down. Either that or i push an app button by accident.
I love CM7, and I REALLY appreciate all the work that's been done, but these guys obviously aren't UI guys...
I have had my nook for all of 4 days, but i really like cm7, hc appeared to be too unresponsive for now. I fly a lot and videos are important however moboplayer and or rockplayer between them seem to handle anything i throw at them (divx etc) smoothly. I had an iPad (jailbreak hell) then a g tablet (screen sucks, heavy, cm7 was not nearly as stable as on nook, fast but i don't seem to see much difference browisng/scrolling etc with cm7 experience) and for some reason this nook is by far and away my favorite.
It seems that Honeycomb runs a bit slow on the sd card (haven't tried it running it from eMMC). Right now it seems that Froyo works the best. If they don't come up with a less sluggish HC, I might stick with Froyo.
I may be in the minority but I like the stock rom rooted. Primarily because of the control buttons B&N coded into the task bar, and I don't much care about flash anyway.
I like the Honeycomb UI. I tried the SD version and it's pretty remarkable how well they got that build running. If I were to replace the stock rom it'd be with some version of Honeycomb. Actually I would prefer if B&N just skipped froyo and gingerbread and went straight to Honeycomb for their upgrade (if they are indeed planning an upgrade at all).
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Froyo gives you Flash and working DSP video, something no other option has.
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what rom you have installed? I had nokie froyo on internal memory and it was reaaally slow. Right now im on 1.1 stock rom and its noticeable much faster.
I prefer Cyanogen. I've read too much about issues with application compatibility with Honeycomb to load it right now. When the developers start pushing out ROMS based on the actual source, I'm sure I'll switch over and try it out.
Right now I have CM7 running with dalingrin's overclocked kernel and this thing FLIES. I'm actually trying to sell my ipad now as I would much prefer to use the nook as my tablet.
I like rooted stock. Was trying nookie froyo in my class 10 sd really smooth. After some customization I will be using NF if I can fix the wifi issue.
Hey,
So I know there are a bunch of ROMs around for the Nook Color, but I was curious if anyone had a recommendation for a stable one for my wife's Nook Color? I was looking at Phiremod (both CM7 and MIUI Versions), MIUI, and CM7. So far the problem I am running into with all of them is the screen resolution/density as well as the sleep of death. What is a good stable ROM I can run on there? I don't need bells and whistles.... just something stable that can run android apps (including the Nook and Kindle Apps). Thanks.
-Eric
I'm on nightly 212 (CM7.1 stable will work just as well) and it has.been.by far the most stable ROM I've ever used for any device. I'm running it from the SD Card, and I would surely recommend it.
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I agree.. but be sure to notice in several other posts.. the brand and type of microSD card DOES matter.. Use a Sandisk class 2 or 4.
Before I got a Sandisk, it wasn't very stable. Afterwards.. like a rock.
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Hey,
a recommendation for a stable one for my wife's Nook Color? I was looking at Phiremod (both CM7 and MIUI Versions), MIUI, and CM7.
-Eric
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I have had my Wife's NookColor on MiUi for more than a month. Not one single hang or freeze.
Recovery CWM 3.2.0.1
ROM MIUI v 1.9.23 from MIUI.US
Kernel Dalingrin-OC-emmc-090111
Nook Color Tweaks Dalingrins NookColor Tweaks Audio Setup very useful.
Swype Beta Installer
From the Market:-
zMooth Lite to replace the included "Button Savor" App. Which I leave minimized, because it is difficult to hack out.
Titanium Backup
Rom Manager
Opera Mobile Browser
Replacement Apps from Market for Notes, Pictures, Music, Performance, Synchronizing of Stuff, document Editors, Kindel, Google Books etc.
Interface Launcher has Widgets, Folders and customize-able task-bar.
I had a little trouble during the first setup stage while familiarizing with "Button Savior". In particular the x key means hide the virtual keys, which get in the way of the keyboard. These Buttons serve as virtual "Android Buttons" The virtual buttons slide in from the right edge of the screen. They include all the usual Android Buttons. on, Back Button, Search Button, etc. Actually re-started re-flashed once I got the hang of it. and had no problems. Getting past the stage of entering data into the first few fields was the only frustration. After one installs zMooth you can ignore Button Savior and let it remain minimized, or kill it with a automated task killer.
The Rom has Working Bluetooth with an add-on to Astro File Manager, and also most of the other file managers.
I must have 25 apps of which I use 10 quite often. So far no problems with resolution etc.
Updated Market, and Cloned the whole thing with nandroid backup so that my wife's and my Nooks are identical. Only problem with this is that the Market thinks the two devices are one. It all works, but anything I download from Web Based Market via Web, goes to both devices.
If you know how to redo the Market initialization steps, to trigger a new signature creation step for each device I would be grateful.
I like running CM7 from the EMMC -- I find it's the fastest and most stable. I tried MIUI but I had issues with it and missed my app drawer. I use to run CM7 from the sd card and find running it straight from memory is more reliable.
She's going to love having a tablet! So much more than ereader... love my Nook!
EMMC CM7 had been the best in my experience as will.
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markusrow said:
I have had my Wife's NookColor on MiUi for more than a month. Not one single hang or freeze.
Recovery CWM 3.2.0.1
ROM MIUI v 1.9.23 from MIUI.US
Kernel Dalingrin-OC-emmc-090111
Nook Color Tweaks Dalingrins NookColor Tweaks Audio Setup very useful.
Swype Beta Installer
From the Market:-
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Thanks for the info.
Just a question, what exactly does Kernel Dalingrin-OC-emmc-090111, does on the device?
As i installed yesterday the CM7, after being on Manual Nooter, and i was wondering what are the benefits of Dalingrin, and if i have any implications if i install this through recovery...
Fekish said:
Thanks for the info.
Just a question, what exactly does Kernel Dalingrin-OC-emmc-090111, does on the device?
As i installed yesterday the CM7, after being on Manual Nooter, and i was wondering what are the benefits of Dalingrin, and if i have any implications if i install this through recovery...
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You are most welcome.
All ROMs include / require a Kernel (foundation layer - a Linux kernel). This is the software that is specifically tied to the particular hardware and bridges between the hardware and the body of the ROM. Current CM7.1 and MIUI both include / use Dalingrin's Kernel, which is in turn derived from B&N's kernel. MIUI is a branch of CM7.1 with work in creating a consistent and pleasing interface and removing aspects not required for this platform. The Dalingrin Kernel link is included so that you can follow what Dalingrin offers / updates in the future and flash it independently of the ROM if you wish to do so. Also Dalingrin and CyanogenMod developers deserve credit and thanks for the work in developing CM7 which MIUI have leveraged for their ROM.
The implication is that you can change / update Kernels for the NOOKColor (independently with care), (i.e. flash kernel over the delivered ROM Kernel,) and Dalingrin's Tweaks App works with the Rom and you can donate to Dalingrin by purchasing his App. Enable Under Volting save battery, and Over Clocking improve performance. Also as stated before, very very useful for setting the Audio gains in the best possible combination.
FYI, Dalingrin's kernel is included in the nightlies (has been for a while), so if you installed CM7 it's already there. It opens up a lot of features as well as the ability to Overclock for extra performance. It seems like most everyone has OC'd up to the max allowed by default which is 1.2ghz I think. It definitely makes the Nook a lot snappier with little trade-off.
Another vote for CM7.1 stable on eMMC. Solid as a rock.
davidr415 said:
I agree.. but be sure to notice in several other posts.. the brand and type of microSD card DOES matter.. Use a Sandisk class 2 or 4.
Before I got a Sandisk, it wasn't very stable. Afterwards.. like a rock.
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Did I miss something? I was always under the impression that you should not use anything less than a Class 6 SD card, especially if your running the ROM from the SD instead of EMMC.
Class 2/4 are too slow...
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Did I miss something? I was always under the impression that you should not use anything less than a Class 6 SD card, especially if your running the ROM from the SD instead of EMMC.
Class 2/4 are too slow...
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When using the SD to run the OS off of, the random access speed is what makes the difference. There were tests down before, but iirc the Sandisk cards showed the best random-access speed despite having a slower class (which measures sequential writes).
ponyboy82 said:
When using the SD to run the OS off of, the random access speed is what makes the difference. There were tests down before, but iirc the Sandisk cards showed the best random-access speed despite having a slower class (which measures sequential writes).
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Not to get off topic, but does that apply to higher class Sandisk as well? Basically, a Class 6 Sandisk will outperform a Class 2/4 Sandisk in the Nook? I can't recall seeing the tests, this is why I ask.
You have received a lot of good advice here and I'm just going to throw my two cents' worth in.
I am a 53 year old woman who has tried every rom out there. I have settled on the Miui rom. #1 because it just looks nicer to my eyes than CM7. Fonts and icons are larger and 'prettier.' #2 because this rom has the most zip on my nook.
Right now I'm running 1.9.23. A week ago I restored my Nook to stock, installed Miui and installed my apps from the market - not from a backup and I have had zero freezes or SODs. I run over 150 apps, use launcher pro, with Facebook, gmail, calendar and pulse news reader updating frequently.
I also went into the spare parts app and set my wifi to sleep never.
Everyone has their favorite, but Miui wins my vote hands down.
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nismopc said:
Not to get off topic, but does that apply to higher class Sandisk as well? Basically, a Class 6 Sandisk will outperform a Class 2/4 Sandisk in the Nook? I can't recall seeing the tests, this is why I ask.
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I think this is the test I was thinking of... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102704
If I'm reading it correctly, the class doesn't seem to make a huge difference. I would think higher classes would be faster for at least some operations though.
nismopc said:
Not to get off topic, but does that apply to higher class Sandisk as well? Basically, a Class 6 Sandisk will outperform a Class 2/4 Sandisk in the Nook? I can't recall seeing the tests, this is why I ask.
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Check my sig for the links to see what the deal is.
Basically, class 2 or 4 SanDisk is what you want, 8 gig minimum, with better performance gains the higher the capacity of card. 16 gig performs better then 8, and 32 better then 16.
The reason is the level of attention manufacturers pay to small block read/write data pathways physically inside the card itself. Running android from the sdcard doesn't matter so much about large-block file transfer, it's all the small writes to and from memory that are important.
That kinda ties in with what I was gonna say to the OP, though, consider this:
I just bought my lady a Nook Color for her birthday, and set it up with the latest stable cm7 (7.1.0) and had it set to the internal memory. I figured, what the heck...she's not gonna do anything else with it.
Wrong move. Putting the finishing touches on it the night before I her birthday, I saw a problem with the screen, I pressed the app drawer icon and a wave of liquid flowed halfway across the screen. As the night wore on over the next hour or so, it got worse and started to become unresponsive.
Obvious hardware failure.
I spent the rest of the night setting up one of my good SanDisk memory cards with her installation on it, and wrote everything (pictures, icons, etc...) to the memory card and nothing to internal memory.
Now she has all her apps, custom icons I made for her, boot screens, albums of pictures from the time we spent together and so forth all on the MicroSd card.
When B&N opened the morning of her birthday, I took it back and exchanged it for a new one. Popped the memory card in, and it was good to go.
Now if her Nook Color ever fails her again (which is very infrequent, was just a bad one out of the factory) all she has to do is pop out her memory card and put it in another one, and it's like nothing ever happened.
Using verygreens installer, and the latest release of CM7, it's a seamless, fantastic setup. Honestly, i'll never install to internal memory again. I never did on my Nook Color, and given what happened there I can't see a reason to ever do so again.
From a dev standpoint, leaving the Nook Color stock on emmc has many advantages, and from a user standpoint the same can be said but for different reasons.
To each their own, but I spent a lot of time figuring out how to make it run well from the MicroSD card, and why some things didn't work as well.
The bonus is you don't void your warranty, and the stock Nook Color software will format any MicroSD card you put in it once it's booted, regardless of what the partition table on the card itself is like.
Just my .02 cents, best of luck with the Nook Color for your wife.
Edit to add:
If you do make an sd-card install and restore the emmc to stock, then keep this in mind:
I used to recommend the app "sd speed increase" made by a member here at xda, because it helped considerably with running from the sd-card.
Not anymore. The newest version of cm7 stable incorporates that fix into the build, and trying to run the app over it actually presents a decrease in performance.
CM7.1.0 is pretty optimized for sd-installs, in addition to running fantastically on internal memory (from what I hear anyways, i'll never know!)
Thanks for the info all. I just installed CM7 Stable on hers... seems to be running nicely.
k8108 said:
You have received a lot of good advice here and I'm just going to throw my two cents' worth in.
Right now I'm running 1.9.23. A week ago I restored my Nook to stock, installed Miui and installed my apps from the market - not from a backup and I have had zero freezes or SODs. I run over 150 apps, use launcher pro, with Facebook, gmail, calendar and pulse news reader updating frequently.
I also went into the spare parts app and set my wifi to sleep never.
Everyone has their favorite, but Miui wins my vote hands down.
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Currently MIUI gets my vote.
MIUI 1.9.23 with a clean install and app load was a huge improvement.
Cyanogen is constantly moving forward. I will try it from time to time, using Nandroid backup and restore to flip back - update - then see what I am missing.
It is a pitty that the two cannot coexist in a complementary way. No winners no loosers. I don't think that MIUI makes its features and customizations available so cannot be incorporated (on a selective merit basis) back into Cyanogen. They are not open like Cyanogen. So in the end Cyaongen may well win base on its support from community.
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Thanks for the info all. I just installed CM7 Stable on hers... seems to be running nicely.
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Awesome. By the way, despite the name, the nightlies are often very stable these days. I forget when the fixes were put in, but there have been a bunch of improvements including better battery life while sleeping since one of the main "stable" milestone builds. If you find some issues, it may be worth trying a nightly.
Also, you should backup your rom using Rom Manager and/or apps using nandroid or titanium backup. That has saved my butt a few times.
Good luck!
A few posts down is one titled [GUIDE] CM7.1... I followed that one from a factory restored firmware 1.0.0 and am more than pleased. I would give that a shot if I were you. Seems very stable and you shouldn't have to worry about upgrading for a while.
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For now, I'm done with CM9 on my NC. I really love it, and will probably come back to it if it ever gets a stable version. I can't stand the Deep Sleep issues, horrible battery life, and slow response. I mainly use it as a e-reader anyway, so for now... I'm going to give up the multi-functionality of CM9 and use the B&N stock.
Unless someone can talk me off the ledge...
Go to CM7 instead of CM9
Just go to CM7 .... the Mirage build is rock solid.... and then when CM9 gets to that point or close move back .
I am running dual boot CM7.2 and Stock 1.4.1 ... Loving it
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I'm flashed to EMMC and running CM7 and it's the cats meow. Super smooth like salted buttah. It is absolutely easy to back up your current ROM in CWM and flash the current CM9 to see how things have progressed. Don't like it....wipe and restore. Total time....oh, maybe an hour. I say CM7 till the great Dev's get the kinks worked out.
Now that racks' triple boot wil take latest updates, you can run the very stable CM7, still play with latest CM9, and always have the basic B&N available on emcc. Like having your cake and etc...
Not to hijack OP thread, but are you going back to stock from flashing to the Nook or did you use the SD Card method? I have a Nook Color that I installed CM7.2 onto the SD Card and I keep getting force closes and other issues. I want to try to install to the actual Nook, but don't want to risk losing the warranty if I can avoid it.
Really like CM7.2 just didn't run as smooth as what I expected compared to my other tablet or my phone.
Thanks!
What kind of SD card do you have?
It's a 4 gig transcend class 4 card.
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First thing to do is replace that with a Sandisk class 2 or 4. Well known issue.
I wondered if it was the card. I thought I seen others using the Transcend cards and not having problems. I'll order a Sandisk and try again.
Thanks!
I spent the weekend with 7.2 Mirage, and so far... I'm impressed. It's smooth, solid, and battery life is impressive (compared to CM9). I'll use this as my daily driver for now and periodically check for ICS updates.
Also... I tried the whole "hard boot 8 times" trick to restore back to factory, but it didn't work. I'm running CWM Universal Boot. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it not working for me.
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I spent the weekend with 7.2 Mirage, and so far... I'm impressed. It's smooth, solid, and battery life is impressive (compared to CM9). I'll use this as my daily driver for now and periodically check for ICS updates.
Also... I tried the whole "hard boot 8 times" trick to restore back to factory, but it didn't work. I'm running CWM Universal Boot. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it not working for me.
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8 failed boots doesn't work if you have clockworkmod on your Nook. Only the stock recovery has that feature.
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