Hi,
I've been going through the internet with this question and have always found the same answer: "it is not possibale to turn off the phone and have the alarm clock work". now most people say its because the phone is a smartphone confused: not so smart if you ask me) but i have a nokia x6 which is a smartphone and this option is included in this phone.
So i guess my question is : what the heck? how hard can it be? can anyone make an app that does this? i would gladly pay for this feature as will other users i guess...why didn't samsung think of this?
and by the way my friend which has an iphone says this option is available on the iphone so i don't really buy the "not optional on smartphones".
anyway would be glad if someone had an app that does this....
Same search happening here. I dont think it's possible though.
You mean off as in off dead not switched on and asleep i take it .
That would require an app to power the phone on and set off alarm i guess .
jje
And-roid said:
Hi,
I've been going through the internet with this question and have always found the same answer: "it is not possibale to turn off the phone and have the alarm clock work". now most people say its because the phone is a smartphone confused: not so smart if you ask me) but i have a nokia x6 which is a smartphone and this option is included in this phone.
So i guess my question is : what the heck? how hard can it be? can anyone make an app that does this? i would gladly pay for this feature as will other users i guess...why didn't samsung think of this?
and by the way my friend which has an iphone says this option is available on the iphone so i don't really buy the "not optional on smartphones".
anyway would be glad if someone had an app that does this....
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this is one of the better features of nokia, i don't remember what phone first introduced this, but is a shame that an android phone doesn't have this. try to put the phone into aerial mode, switch off wifi,and keep it on.that made the trick to save more the battery and have the alarm ringing at the proper time.
also the iphone,has got issues with alarms...
Smartphone does not need this features anymore
I had the same question! but now I understand that smartphone does not need this features anymore.
Try to make your phone idle in "Plan mode" for 10h the battery only drain 1%. So why did you need to turn it off during the night?
I suppose that your nokia x6 also eats battery (evens very little) while turning off to maintains this features.
As you cannot expect the battery life of a smartphone beat a regular phone.
At this point we can consider that the "Plan mode" of your smartphone equivalent to "turning off mode" of nokia x6 ^^
(Just my thought with my bad english)
Yeah I used to have a nokia 5800 running symbian and it would wake from off and activate alarms. Doesn't appear possible with android but I guess the question is why would you want to? It's bad practice to turn smart phones off all the time. As has been said the smart thing to do is to activate flight mode while you sleep. This is about you changing your behaviour - not your phones
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It's bad practice to turn smart phones off all the time.
Rubbish you don't leave A TV on day and night nor a car running without use .
If you do not need your phone for twelve hours turn it off .
jje
I bought new I9003 & have been looking for the same feature as my 6yr old moto L7 had this feature I somehow assumed that this should be a standard feature.
I think it should be easily possible to write an app which schedules the power on /off scheme, its very handy when you are in areas where charging the phone will not be possible, moreover I don't need the incoming phone at night.
Would be possible on a HTC desire or HTC desire z as they don't properly turn off but the galaxy s does a full shut down.
If it was built into a kernal battery drain would be a mass problem.
Airplane mode would be just as good.
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A smartphone is more a computer than a phone. If it's off, you want it to be off, not just to shut everything down unless X
Nokia probably builds it's hardware to support this. since the internal clock of any computer runs at any time they probably built a trigger into it to boot up the phone to ring. On setting the alarm you program it probably into the hardware.
I think that's pretty bad design.
Anyway to answer less confused:
Android wants to have any part interchangeable and it would be kind of dangerous to let every app that poses as an alarm access the hardware on such a level they did not build it in. And since it's not in android the manufacturers (as samsung) did not give a damn about it either.
I think its more to do with the android operating system which has to be loaded before the alarm turns on then samsung.
Annoying but highly useful during exams when your not too sure if your phone might ring or the alarm might go off.
But yh google should have solved this problem, Its been possible on the most basic of phones 6-7 years ago. My last 2 samsung phones that were basic (e900 and d600) both had this function.
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My nokia 95 could power on by alarm program if it was shut.
Can samsung wake up by a alarm program if its poweroff?
It seeems not possible but who knows?
No its not possible on any of android smartphones I think its the android limitation.
I am sorry only nokia works . I never seen a android or wm phone works this way. I dont think it will unless some manufacture install additional chip to make this work
Alternative solution is to use tasker to shutoff all the application to save as much battery as possible and turn it back on on specific time.
yken said:
My nokia 95 could power on by alarm program if it was shut.
Can samsung wake up by a alarm program if its poweroff?
It seeems not possible but who knows?
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No, symbian will, android won't. Leave your phone on if you want it to wake you up....in flight mode if necessary
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neither iphone nor android can do this due manufacturing deficiency
Android needs some kind of hibernation ability which with a trigger event like alarm would wake up, as of now we don't have it.
None of the newer smart phones have this functionality. I don't understand why, but it seems like it was left out because most smartphone users dislike switching off their phones.... beats me.
My galaxy S won't do it, but my Samsung Jet will.....it's smarter than a smart phone, lol.
Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys
What do you mean you switch off? Do you lock it or turn it off. Because if you turn off your phone the alarm will not work.
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What do you mean you switch off? Do you lock it or turn it off. Because if you turn off your phone the alarm will not work.
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I meant while the mobile is turned off ! no way to turn on the alarm while the mobile is turned off.. I thought it's simple task available in most cheap mobiles though !
zqoot said:
Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys
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Looks like you need to choose, or to wake up or save battery...
No, the alarm doesn't work with the phone OFF
What phone do you have? There could be other issues so let's get all the facts first.
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What phone do you have? There could be other issues so let's get all the facts first.
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Well... being in the "LG Optimus 4X HD " I don't think he has a Samsung, iPhone, or any other...
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Well... being in the "LG Optimus 4X HD " I don't think he has a Samsung, iPhone, or any other...
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Sorry I'm using the xda android app and I saw this under latest and decided to help. I didn't see which main forum this thread is from.
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Another "iPhone doesn't have it, so it's not needed" feature, I guess.. :/ too bad, really. It's not extremely difficult to implement a function like that. Or implement something like a standby mode that can be woken up by some system command. Such as an alarm, a preset sync event to a calendar update, an event on a calendar.. Could make the device sleep again after checking as well. Say you'd wake it up every once in a while to check for missed calls (if.. service providers would have ever implemented something like that - you could maybe even let your phone be woken up by a call.. if a system start would take five-ten seconds, connecting through would work), or receive unfetched messages or e-mail from the network, that sort of thing.
zqoot said:
Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys
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Firstly, this is a QUESTION and should be in the Q&A forum. But anyhoo...
I'm not sure if the OP and a couple of the other posters are trolling or just being deliberately obtuse. Do you REALLY expect your alarm to work when you turn your phone OFF? I know, back in the day some of the simple phones would support this, but it was implemented in hardware. Your phone now requires Android to run - not going to happen when it's turned off.
I want my phone on all the time so people can contact me if they need to. At night it goes into Quiet Hours, so only a phone call or alarm will disturb me. It also only uses about 7% battery overnight, so I can't see the problem with that at all.
As for the comments about the phone waking itself up periodically tipi check on things, that means that it can't actually be fully turned off, and also that will use battery in the first place.
I'm still not sure if I'm being trolled or not... :banghead:
lol. Yeah, back in the day most phones had a function like that. ..pretty much all laptops actually have the same thing, but no one actually use it for anything. Wake from lan-poll, wake from activity on system-bus, wake on software counter. Practically all chipsets have that from ARM boards to the latest desktop motherboards. Different depths of sleep states makes it pretty easy to do implement any amount of functions from that.
The "hardware" poll isn't a whole bunch more complicated than preserving the clock when turning the power off. All phones do that.. keep the clock from stopping after you hit the power.. and literally all phones have a soft switch to turn the phone from that "standby" state to power on state. And that switch can be triggered by a routine on some cmos clock+ module. It's not complicated. For all we know it could be there on the chipset already, it just didn't seem very appealing to anyone to program an app in Android to communicate somehow with the hardware layer outside the Android interfaces.
..I don't know. I have this feeling that in 20 years, when people are asked to program something and the Microsoft tools break - then people can't do it. "Original Code" becomes a religious object that people worship and call the divine wisdom of God, and things like that.. And no, you're not being trolled.
Hey, Group...
Got my Gear 2 Neo a few months ago....I expected some "growing pains" out of a new system (and I haven't been disappointed)...but I guess my first question is:
Where The Aitch-Ee-Double-Toothpicks are the *SECONDS*?
Whose Bright Idea was it to eliminate those nasty, useless seconds from the Clock? (same people that want to get rid of the Penny, I'm betting)
This is a *WATCH*...not a *Sundial*!
I want to use one of the basic clocks...they are clean and easy to read...but unless I get some weird Retro LCD Clockface...or an Analog...I can't seem to get *seconds*....It's obviously possible *to* display them (other faces have 'em)...why not the Stock Clock? What gives??? (*pant*pant*pant*)....okay...I'm a little better, now.
But seriously...I repair Medical equipment for a living; that often relies on synchronized data.....I need to be able to set those devices *accurately*...not "Aww...plus-or-minus a couple of minutes is fine!"
So...that's the first question (okay...I guess it was more of a Rant *blushes*)....the Second Question is.....is there anyplace to actually *interact* with the Tizen Devs? I went to the Tizen site...and I thought they made it pretty clear that if you're not a Dev...they really don't want to hear from you.)
Ive got nothing against Hacking (running People's ROM on my Galaxy S3)...but if you don't *need* to hack it...why bother?
Okay...next ones are regarding Apps (or the lack thereof):
Does anyone know of an App that will turn *off* the Inertia Sensor for a specific period of time? Specifically, I'd like to wear my Neo to bed...but every time I move in my sleep, it turns on, and ticks my wife off...so turning the Intertia sensor off between, say, 10PM and 6AM would be *awesome*! (Obviously, turning it on from the "Home" Button would still work)
And...I know this is an Issue...because I've seen some other posts about it, but no Solutions....is there a way to make the Weather app update more than twice a day? I flat *cannot* force it to update, unless I reset *everything* (Watch and phone)
I guess the corollary to that question is: Do any of you guys know of anyone Developing a Weather App *besides* AccuWeather? (I'd *love* to see WeatherBug do one...but that prolly won't happen...they can't fit Ads onto the Watch face...)
Thanks in advance, guys (and gals)...I'm really not a raving lunatic (most of the time) :silly:
I can't address all these issues but generally seconds are left off of stock watch faces to save battery. I just turned off the motion action altogether because the watch turned on at very weird times whether I was sleeping or not. I got used to using the button to see the time very quickly.
I know that is not a help but there you are.
Fred
The Weather channel has an app for the watch, although it doesn't have the option of adding it to the clock "window".
I use the sleep tracker at night and it has an option to have it turn on Block mode and that keeps the watch from coming on when moving in your sleep, as well as coming on for any notifications from your phone.
not sure on the Tizen development question though.
Hi all,
I just upgraded to KitKat and was really disappointed to notice the alarm won't work any more when the phone is OFF.
That was a great feature, something I've always missed since I moved from Nokia to Android smartphones...
Is there a way to restore this functionality?
algiogia said:
Hi all,
I just upgraded to KitKat and was really disappointed to notice the alarm won't work any more when the phone is OFF.
That was a great feature, something I've always missed since I moved from Nokia to Android smartphones...
Is there a way to restore this functionality?
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Did you try Airplane mode....?
I wonder why, WHY, in every thread about the alarm there is someone coming out with "Why don't you use airplane mode?"
Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to be rude, but airplane mode and OFF are not the same thing.
The phone is still doing stuff, app are still running in background, power is used.
"But in airplane mode the battery usage is almost null..." yep, almost...
People get mad about the TV's LED staying on but then it's ok for the phone...
I think (as many other people do) that the alarm working when the phone is off is a great feature.
People have been complaining for years about the lack of this on Android. Some dug deep into hardware spreadsheets to prove it was possible while Google and the producers kept blaming each other.
Finally HTC made it, and now, no one knows why, with Android 4.4 they've removed the feature.
I don't want other "solutions", I'm asking if there is a way to restore the Alarm-when-the-phone-is-off functionality on 4.4.
algiogia said:
I wonder why, WHY, in every thread about the alarm there is someone coming out with "Why don't you use airplane mode?"
Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to be rude, but airplane mode and OFF are not the same thing.
The phone is still doing stuff, app are still running in background, power is used.
"But in airplane mode the battery usage is almost null..." yep, almost...
People get mad about the TV's LED staying on but then it's ok for the phone...
I think (as many other people do) that the alarm working when the phone is off is a great feature.
People have been complaining for years about the lack of this on Android. Some dug deep into hardware spreadsheets to prove it was possible while Google and the producers kept blaming each other.
Finally HTC made it, and now, no one knows why, with Android 4.4 they've removed the feature.
I don't want other "solutions", I'm asking if there is a way to restore the Alarm-when-the-phone-is-off functionality on 4.4.
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Ok first off for the alarm to ring the phone is not fully off. IT is nothing more then being in airplane mode with the screen blacked out. As HTC removed it and Sense is closed sourced (this is fast boot related) there is no option to return it.
zelendel said:
Ok first off for the alarm to ring the phone is not fully off. IT is nothing more then being in airplane mode with the screen blacked out.
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Do you have any source for this?
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Do you have any source for this?
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You would have to search deep as this is old knowledge from when it was first done on dumb phones back around the motor razor. It is not a new feature in the least. I am sure you can search around and dig up the info. You can test it yourself by running a logcat while you charge with power off.
http://tomhorsley.com/rants/doze-mode.html
I'm definitely reverting back to 5.1.1 when I get the time and energy to fool with it .
sounds like that was written by someone who hasn't even tried marshmallow yet. I have yet to experience any missed notifications, alarms or any issues relating to time in any way. If some apps are being affected by this then its a sign to the developer to fix their ****ty code because all of my apps relating to time at all have been working just fine and alot of them are still the same version they were on lollipop. Doze has improved my batter significantly. It sounds like this article was probably written by a developer who cant code properly and instead of improving his skills he'd rather complain and convince everyone to stay away from updates because he is unwilling to evolve. Even the article looks like it was written in paint...
I had indeed a wrong time bug some days ago...really strange and worrying, a reboot fixed it. First time ever since Android Froyo that I experienced something like that.
That author seems to think that Marshmallow's Doze is a horrible thing that breaks all apps that rely on background services, namely alarms and notifications, and couldn't possibly be fixed in 10 years (rather than a few months) due to Google's horrible mistake (rather than devs not fixing their code).
Frankly, it sounds like a bunch of hyperbole.
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He's wrong about how doze works. And if he's in the camp that doesn't understand it nor wants to rewrite his app. Then yeh he's the idiot group that Google is targeting and was writing garbage code anyway.
lol complete nonsense, my alarm has worked everyday since i flashed M, even on dev previews...the only issues i have with M are really the "slow to connect wifi when using toggles" and the weird wifi consumption on battery stats
Another annoying issue on M is that if your leave your phone longer in standby mode (display off), wifi turns off and you stop recieving notifications until you turn your phone on again. This is with wifi set to "never turn off", etc.
Kustaa said:
I had indeed a wrong time bug some days ago...really strange and worrying, a reboot fixed it. First time ever since Android Froyo that I experienced something like that.
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This actually happened with me a couple of days back, I was travelling, so I put my phone connected to a power bank and went for a nap, woke up to see phone switched off, switching it on throws me a 2nd September date set on my device. Had to manually set the date as no network was available to automatically set the date from servers.
Ubichinon said:
Another annoying issue on M is that if your leave your phone longer in standby mode (display off), wifi turns off and you stop recieving notifications until you turn your phone on again. This is with wifi set to "never turn off", etc.
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This I had been noticing these days just because of WhatsApp Web. When in standby, WhatsApp Web shows phone not connected error. Just waking the phone reconnects to the WiFi, but happens every 30-40mins.
I have a feeling that folks who never see these problems have their phones charging at night and doze mode doesn't happen when you are charging. I have no convenient way to charge my phone near my bed, so it is not charging and totally idle all night. Email and messaging completely stops. Only the stock alarm clock works. My medication reminder stops working. It might as well be turned off completely. Plus when you do wake up and turn on the phone, all the pent up alerts come through and scare the hell out of you. I hate doze mode.
Settings -> Battery -> ... (menu)-> Battery Optimization --> All apps --> Select whatsapp, etc... and select not optimized.
Test again.
You're welcome.
I already disabled optimization in the battery settings for all the apps that weren't working. They still don't work after sitting overnight. It looks as if that setting has absolutely no effect.
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I already disabled optimization in the battery settings for all the apps that weren't working. They still don't work after sitting overnight. It looks as if that setting has absolutely no effect.
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This is a real problem. I tested this on a Nexus 5. The device seems to enter Doze after about 1 hour and this is what happens.
What does work in Doze mode:
- Telephone: call can be heard.
- Alarm: alarm can be heard
What does NOT work in Doze mode:
- Receiving mail notifications directly: it seems to wait for the maintenance window. There is no "ping" from my GMail. No lock screen notification until I picked it up. I turned off battery optimalization as suggested. Like Claghorn says, it doesn't make a difference. When I was sleeping, the time difference between sending the mail and getting a notification can be hours. That is not acceptable: I want to determine whether or not I get a message. I got no control over Doze, except plugging it in. Also, when it sits on the desk at work I need to pick it up or turn the screen on every so often, because I don't know if it "dozed" off again.
Works partially:
- Notification light: It works once mail passes through the maintenance window. It does NOT work before the maintenance window.
I tested all of this with a unrooted, updated Nexus 5. Topic Starter and Claghorn have good points. Why can't I turn this off? I don't want this. I want notification on time, with ping, right now. If I don't I will turn the volume off or set priorities. They could have told me this behavior in a mail or during the update. Important mail from work, family comes in hours late. Not happy with this at all.
Tried all sorts of things, nothing seems to help. And no, battery optimalization is either not enough or has nothing to do with it. I love the Nexus 5. Marshmallow seems to be much smoother than Lollipop. I was happy with the update until I discovered this. Now, I am fustrated. I expect the phone to inform me when I need to be informed. Most days I don't need to save 10% of power anyway. For the first time I want to either root the phone and go back to Lollipop or even Kitkat. I don't know what else can be done. Fustrated.
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This is a real problem. I tested this on a Nexus 5. The device seems to enter Doze after about 1 hour and this is what happens.
What does work in Doze mode:
- Telephone: call can be heard.
- Alarm: alarm can be heard
What does NOT work in Doze mode:
- Receiving mail notifications directly: it seems to wait for the maintenance window. There is no "ping" from my GMail. No lock screen notification until I picked it up. I turned off battery optimalization as suggested. Like Claghorn says, it doesn't make a difference. When I was sleeping, the time difference between sending the mail and getting a notification can be hours. That is not acceptable: I want to determine whether or not I get a message. I got no control over Doze, except plugging it in. Also, when it sits on the desk at work I need to pick it up or turn the screen on every so often, because I don't know if it "dozed" off again.
Works partially:
- Notification light: It works once mail passes through the maintenance window. It does NOT work before the maintenance window.
I tested all of this with a unrooted, updated Nexus 5. Topic Starter and Claghorn have good points. Why can't I turn this off? I don't want this. I want notification on time, with ping, right now. If I don't I will turn the volume off or set priorities. They could have told me this behavior in a mail or during the update. Important mail from work, family comes in hours late. Not happy with this at all.
Tried all sorts of things, nothing seems to help. And no, battery optimalization is either not enough or has nothing to do with it. I love the Nexus 5. Marshmallow seems to be much smoother than Lollipop. I was happy with the update until I discovered this. Now, I am fustrated. I expect the phone to inform me when I need to be informed. Most days I don't need to save 10% of power anyway. For the first time I want to either root the phone and go back to Lollipop or even Kitkat. I don't know what else can be done. Fustrated.
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A quick suggestion -
You may use Doze Mode Editor and edit the script so that your phone never enters Doze mode.
That way you can enjoy Marshmallow without Doze.
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A quick suggestion -
You may use Doze Mode Editor and edit the script so that your phone never enters Doze mode.
That way you can enjoy Marshmallow without Doze.
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Thanks, I will look into that. I'd like to keep Mashmallow as a whole if possible. I think it is a good update in general.
OK, I've looked at the doze mode editor thread and I find that the descriptions of the parameters I can set to be totally confusing, however, the flowchart pointed at in that thread seems to indicate that if I set the "inactive_to" value to something like 24 hours, then all the other doze mode nonsense is unlikely to ever happen (because I'll probably turn on my phone at least once every 24 hours). Does that seem like the best way to essentially turn off doze mode?
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OK, I've looked at the doze mode editor thread and I find that the descriptions of the parameters I can set to be totally confusing, however, the flowchart pointed at in that thread seems to indicate that if I set the "inactive_to" value to something like 24 hours, then all the other doze mode nonsense is unlikely to ever happen (because I'll probably turn on my phone at least once every 24 hours). Does that seem like the best way to essentially turn off doze mode?
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I will look into this over the weekend. I find it odd that there isn't simply a switch to turn Doze off, which is a pity. It seems to me it's part of saving energy in general. A switch under Battery would do nicely. It should not be this complicated. That said, I think the UI of Marshmallow is silky smooth, much better than Lollipop. Marshmallow in general in good. It' just this that annoys me.
i'm baffled by google's aversion to end user config. This kind of b.s. is how I found xda and drove me to become a chronic flashaholic. All or nothin I guess.
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i'm baffled by google's aversion to end user config. This kind of b.s. is how I found xda and drove me to become a chronic flashaholic. All or nothin I guess.
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I get the feeling Google assumes the customer is a developer. A few examples:
- The Nexus 5 does have a notification light: I didn't know until I read 5 reviews and even then I couldn't find any documentation on it. Needed an external app to get it working.
- Battery indicator: I like to have small numbers indicating battery charge: it could be done by hacking KitKat and Lollipop I think. Then at Marshmallow finally there's a (hidden) switch.
- I don't recall having any user guide in the Nexus 5 package. Not that I needed one. But some landing page doing a walkthrough would have been nice. Although there are some walkthroughs in every app
Not fatal flaws, but you wonder why does it need to be that difficult. It scares people away. Not me. I handed the Nexus 5 to some friends on numerous occasions and most found it too "empty". As for me, I want all developer stuff on. So it suprised me, there is no Doze fine tuning. Again, overall I give the Nexus a 8 or 9 out of 10. It fits me. In general I like it. So it's just constructive criticism. The empty layout and raw speed of the Nexus 5 works good in development of apps afterall.
Last night I ran an adb command (generated by the doze mode editor app) to set inactive_to to 24 hours (86400000 milliseconds). I then set an alarm for the next morning in the "Alarm Clock Plus" app (which completely ceased to function after Marshmallow showed up). This morning, the alarm actually went off on time, but the big "Dismiss" button it draws on the screen was totally non-functional. I had to hit the power button to get control (which then caused a popup saying alarm clock plus was non-responsive). I have no idea what caused all that behavior, but at least the alarm actually went off.
Also, with doze mode essentially disabled (in theory anyway), the power dropped from 100% in the evening all the way down to 97% in the morning.
With the exception to facebook and game type apps, Google's apps are the only ones I find that excessively waste resourxes and need to be forced to sleep. If they would get off the constant location polling, media scanning, and logging or at least tone it down a bit some they wouldnt need to implement thier half baked versions of solutions that they hijacked from xda devs