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[Q] alarm clock while phone is off

Hi,
I've been going through the internet with this question and have always found the same answer: "it is not possibale to turn off the phone and have the alarm clock work". now most people say its because the phone is a smartphone confused: not so smart if you ask me) but i have a nokia x6 which is a smartphone and this option is included in this phone.
So i guess my question is : what the heck? how hard can it be? can anyone make an app that does this? i would gladly pay for this feature as will other users i guess...why didn't samsung think of this?
and by the way my friend which has an iphone says this option is available on the iphone so i don't really buy the "not optional on smartphones".
anyway would be glad if someone had an app that does this....

Same search happening here. I dont think it's possible though.

You mean off as in off dead not switched on and asleep i take it .
That would require an app to power the phone on and set off alarm i guess .
jje

And-roid said:
Hi,
I've been going through the internet with this question and have always found the same answer: "it is not possibale to turn off the phone and have the alarm clock work". now most people say its because the phone is a smartphone confused: not so smart if you ask me) but i have a nokia x6 which is a smartphone and this option is included in this phone.
So i guess my question is : what the heck? how hard can it be? can anyone make an app that does this? i would gladly pay for this feature as will other users i guess...why didn't samsung think of this?
and by the way my friend which has an iphone says this option is available on the iphone so i don't really buy the "not optional on smartphones".
anyway would be glad if someone had an app that does this....
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this is one of the better features of nokia, i don't remember what phone first introduced this, but is a shame that an android phone doesn't have this. try to put the phone into aerial mode, switch off wifi,and keep it on.that made the trick to save more the battery and have the alarm ringing at the proper time.
also the iphone,has got issues with alarms...

Smartphone does not need this features anymore
I had the same question! but now I understand that smartphone does not need this features anymore.
Try to make your phone idle in "Plan mode" for 10h the battery only drain 1%. So why did you need to turn it off during the night?
I suppose that your nokia x6 also eats battery (evens very little) while turning off to maintains this features.
As you cannot expect the battery life of a smartphone beat a regular phone.
At this point we can consider that the "Plan mode" of your smartphone equivalent to "turning off mode" of nokia x6 ^^
(Just my thought with my bad english)

Yeah I used to have a nokia 5800 running symbian and it would wake from off and activate alarms. Doesn't appear possible with android but I guess the question is why would you want to? It's bad practice to turn smart phones off all the time. As has been said the smart thing to do is to activate flight mode while you sleep. This is about you changing your behaviour - not your phones
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It's bad practice to turn smart phones off all the time.
Rubbish you don't leave A TV on day and night nor a car running without use .
If you do not need your phone for twelve hours turn it off .
jje

I bought new I9003 & have been looking for the same feature as my 6yr old moto L7 had this feature I somehow assumed that this should be a standard feature.
I think it should be easily possible to write an app which schedules the power on /off scheme, its very handy when you are in areas where charging the phone will not be possible, moreover I don't need the incoming phone at night.

Would be possible on a HTC desire or HTC desire z as they don't properly turn off but the galaxy s does a full shut down.
If it was built into a kernal battery drain would be a mass problem.
Airplane mode would be just as good.
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A smartphone is more a computer than a phone. If it's off, you want it to be off, not just to shut everything down unless X
Nokia probably builds it's hardware to support this. since the internal clock of any computer runs at any time they probably built a trigger into it to boot up the phone to ring. On setting the alarm you program it probably into the hardware.
I think that's pretty bad design.
Anyway to answer less confused:
Android wants to have any part interchangeable and it would be kind of dangerous to let every app that poses as an alarm access the hardware on such a level they did not build it in. And since it's not in android the manufacturers (as samsung) did not give a damn about it either.

I think its more to do with the android operating system which has to be loaded before the alarm turns on then samsung.
Annoying but highly useful during exams when your not too sure if your phone might ring or the alarm might go off.
But yh google should have solved this problem, Its been possible on the most basic of phones 6-7 years ago. My last 2 samsung phones that were basic (e900 and d600) both had this function.

[Q] Alarm doesn't work while phone is off ?

Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys

What do you mean you switch off? Do you lock it or turn it off. Because if you turn off your phone the alarm will not work.
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T3CHW0LF said:
What do you mean you switch off? Do you lock it or turn it off. Because if you turn off your phone the alarm will not work.
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I meant while the mobile is turned off ! no way to turn on the alarm while the mobile is turned off.. I thought it's simple task available in most cheap mobiles though !

zqoot said:
Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys
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Looks like you need to choose, or to wake up or save battery...
No, the alarm doesn't work with the phone OFF

What phone do you have? There could be other issues so let's get all the facts first.
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T3CHW0LF said:
What phone do you have? There could be other issues so let's get all the facts first.
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Well... being in the "LG Optimus 4X HD " I don't think he has a Samsung, iPhone, or any other...

RuedasLocas said:
Well... being in the "LG Optimus 4X HD " I don't think he has a Samsung, iPhone, or any other...
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Sorry I'm using the xda android app and I saw this under latest and decided to help. I didn't see which main forum this thread is from.
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Another "iPhone doesn't have it, so it's not needed" feature, I guess.. :/ too bad, really. It's not extremely difficult to implement a function like that. Or implement something like a standby mode that can be woken up by some system command. Such as an alarm, a preset sync event to a calendar update, an event on a calendar.. Could make the device sleep again after checking as well. Say you'd wake it up every once in a while to check for missed calls (if.. service providers would have ever implemented something like that - you could maybe even let your phone be woken up by a call.. if a system start would take five-ten seconds, connecting through would work), or receive unfetched messages or e-mail from the network, that sort of thing.

zqoot said:
Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys
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Firstly, this is a QUESTION and should be in the Q&A forum. But anyhoo...
I'm not sure if the OP and a couple of the other posters are trolling or just being deliberately obtuse. Do you REALLY expect your alarm to work when you turn your phone OFF? I know, back in the day some of the simple phones would support this, but it was implemented in hardware. Your phone now requires Android to run - not going to happen when it's turned off.
I want my phone on all the time so people can contact me if they need to. At night it goes into Quiet Hours, so only a phone call or alarm will disturb me. It also only uses about 7% battery overnight, so I can't see the problem with that at all.
As for the comments about the phone waking itself up periodically tipi check on things, that means that it can't actually be fully turned off, and also that will use battery in the first place.
I'm still not sure if I'm being trolled or not... :banghead:

lol. Yeah, back in the day most phones had a function like that. ..pretty much all laptops actually have the same thing, but no one actually use it for anything. Wake from lan-poll, wake from activity on system-bus, wake on software counter. Practically all chipsets have that from ARM boards to the latest desktop motherboards. Different depths of sleep states makes it pretty easy to do implement any amount of functions from that.
The "hardware" poll isn't a whole bunch more complicated than preserving the clock when turning the power off. All phones do that.. keep the clock from stopping after you hit the power.. and literally all phones have a soft switch to turn the phone from that "standby" state to power on state. And that switch can be triggered by a routine on some cmos clock+ module. It's not complicated. For all we know it could be there on the chipset already, it just didn't seem very appealing to anyone to program an app in Android to communicate somehow with the hardware layer outside the Android interfaces.
..I don't know. I have this feeling that in 20 years, when people are asked to program something and the Microsoft tools break - then people can't do it. "Original Code" becomes a religious object that people worship and call the divine wisdom of God, and things like that.. And no, you're not being trolled.

[Q] Lumia 920 low battery

Hey guys,
i got yesterday my Nokua Lumia 920 and i have some problems with my new baby.
The battery life is not really the best with normal usage for me (Music+Whatsapp and reading news) i got about 6-7h.
do u have some tips how i can save more energy ? I turna always my mobile data off and ofc my wifi and gps. Do u recommend the "Windiws Phone Power Safvr Mode"? Does it help ?
Thanks

I know NFC/wireless charging is a huge feature of the new Lumia, but everyone that I've seen complain about battery life says that turning NFC off saves a lot. You can always charge with the usb cable/adapter.

Fun With Drugs said:
I know NFC/wireless charging is a huge feature of the new Lumia, but everyone that I've seen complain about battery life says that turning NFC off saves a lot. You can always charge with the usb cable/adapter.
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thanks mate, i´ll give a try. i turned the nfc off. lets see does it work.

NFC off helped mine. Since I don't need the NFC all the time I don't leave it on. No big deal if you ask me. Also check your background tasks.
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How is the performance on your new phone? What have you used before?
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[email protected] said:
How is the performance on your new phone? What have you used before?
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The performance is very good. Not simular to android, but great with the animations and without any lags. The worst thing is that wp8 closes automaticly your apps when u hit on the home button. So i always have to start whatsapp over and over again.
I´m coming from Samsung Galaxy S II with Android 4.1 CyanogenMOD 10 aka Siyah Kernel

LudoGris said:
NFC off helped mine. Since I don't need the NFC all the time I don't leave it on. No big deal if you ask me. Also check your background tasks.
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What do u mean with background tasks ? Push mail is on and WhatsApp.
I turned NFC off as well.

Windows Phone does *not* close apps when you press the Start button. Instead, it suspends them; they receive no CPU time*, so they don't drain the battery, but they can be resumed exactly where they were left whenever you want, instantly (although if the phone gets low on RAM, it will start to "tombstone" the apps to persistent storage and then remove them from RAM, which causes the resume to take a moment).
However, the general requirement for third-party apps on WP7 was that they must always launch clean when launched from the Start screen (including app list). The OS could either resume them or do a clean launch, and it was technically up to the app developer to choose, but MS would reject apps from the store that resumed instead of launching cleanly. In WP8, that restriction is removed (or so I've heard), but the apps need to be updated to take advantage of it.
To get back to a suspended app, you use the Back button. Either tap on it to go backward one level in the navigation history (for example, if you accidentally hit Start, you would hit Back to get back where you were), or press-and-hold it for a moment to open the task switcher, which allows you to jump into and resume any app that is resident in memory.
* Some apps are designed to continue running in the background, and will consume power. However, very much unlike Android where almost everything seems to enjoy sitting in the background gnawing on the battery, an app must be specially coded to do this, and for the store to approve it there must be a valid reason for the behavior.

[Q] 4.4 Alarm when phone is OFF

Hi all,
I just upgraded to KitKat and was really disappointed to notice the alarm won't work any more when the phone is OFF.
That was a great feature, something I've always missed since I moved from Nokia to Android smartphones...
Is there a way to restore this functionality?

algiogia said:
Hi all,
I just upgraded to KitKat and was really disappointed to notice the alarm won't work any more when the phone is OFF.
That was a great feature, something I've always missed since I moved from Nokia to Android smartphones...
Is there a way to restore this functionality?
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Did you try Airplane mode....?

I wonder why, WHY, in every thread about the alarm there is someone coming out with "Why don't you use airplane mode?"
Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to be rude, but airplane mode and OFF are not the same thing.
The phone is still doing stuff, app are still running in background, power is used.
"But in airplane mode the battery usage is almost null..." yep, almost...
People get mad about the TV's LED staying on but then it's ok for the phone...
I think (as many other people do) that the alarm working when the phone is off is a great feature.
People have been complaining for years about the lack of this on Android. Some dug deep into hardware spreadsheets to prove it was possible while Google and the producers kept blaming each other.
Finally HTC made it, and now, no one knows why, with Android 4.4 they've removed the feature.
I don't want other "solutions", I'm asking if there is a way to restore the Alarm-when-the-phone-is-off functionality on 4.4.

algiogia said:
I wonder why, WHY, in every thread about the alarm there is someone coming out with "Why don't you use airplane mode?"
Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to be rude, but airplane mode and OFF are not the same thing.
The phone is still doing stuff, app are still running in background, power is used.
"But in airplane mode the battery usage is almost null..." yep, almost...
People get mad about the TV's LED staying on but then it's ok for the phone...
I think (as many other people do) that the alarm working when the phone is off is a great feature.
People have been complaining for years about the lack of this on Android. Some dug deep into hardware spreadsheets to prove it was possible while Google and the producers kept blaming each other.
Finally HTC made it, and now, no one knows why, with Android 4.4 they've removed the feature.
I don't want other "solutions", I'm asking if there is a way to restore the Alarm-when-the-phone-is-off functionality on 4.4.
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Ok first off for the alarm to ring the phone is not fully off. IT is nothing more then being in airplane mode with the screen blacked out. As HTC removed it and Sense is closed sourced (this is fast boot related) there is no option to return it.

zelendel said:
Ok first off for the alarm to ring the phone is not fully off. IT is nothing more then being in airplane mode with the screen blacked out.
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Do you have any source for this?

algiogia said:
Do you have any source for this?
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You would have to search deep as this is old knowledge from when it was first done on dumb phones back around the motor razor. It is not a new feature in the least. I am sure you can search around and dig up the info. You can test it yourself by running a logcat while you charge with power off.

My phone vibrates for no 'reason'

Greetings all,
I have a new Note5 and overall I like it.
As you might expect I have been working feverishly to find up to date app solutions for my usage model and that will work on an unrooted device. I despise all that conspire to force this upon us! Anyway I have been testing loads of apps and somewhere along the way something has been set to vibrate to indicate something. It is happening at fairly random intervals and nothing shows on screen or in the pull down that accounts for it.
I have looked for events that are pending, past due, etc. I don't get many texts. So, it isn't that. I have even turned on airplane mode which should prevent any kind of updaes or pushes that might trigger an notice.I have checked all of the apps I am using and none are set to vibrate only. From the initial turn on of this phone I have run package disabler pro for Samsung. Using a basic list from this xda thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563. I have restarted the phone several times as well
Can anyone suggest some kind of system monitor/logging app that I can load that will allow me to find out which application is triggering this? Is there some other way I can find out what is triggering this event? I expect that a logging app will eat battery more but on a temp basis that would be ok.
Thanks all and here's to someone finding a way for us to root our notes without messing up our warranty and secure payment...
p

If you are talking about how it vibrates when you first pick it up for seemingly no reason, then that's a feature. It's to let you know you have notifications. It's called smart alert, you can disable it in the gestures menu.

vibrate (and sound) for 'no reason'
Thanks _MetalHead_
But no. This happens when it is sitting undisturbed. I will check and turn off that feature if it isnt already so it isnt adding to the confusion.
If I didnt say, I find no idication of active alarms or notifications.
P

Do you have any Bluetooth devices connected? I had a smart watch with my S5. Every time it connected or disconnected, the phone would vibrate. This was especially annoying when I left the watch in the bedroom while sitting in the living room with my phone. Every few minutes it would connect/disconnect and the phone would vibrate.

STM8
Not clear if this is contributing. Will turn BT off to be certain.
Actually, I think I can say for certain no. This has happened in airplane mode.
That is why I am looking for a system logging application or some equivalent method.
P
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pwhalley said:
STM8
Not clear if this is contributing. Will turn BT off to be certain.
Actually, I think I can say for certain no. This has happened in airplane mode.
That is why I am looking for a system logging application or some equivalent method.
P
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Hi, Go to settings and go to S Pen Option, and turn off all S Pen alerts, including power saver one.

pwhalley said:
STM8
Not clear if this is contributing. Will turn BT off to be certain.
Actually, I think I can say for certain no. This has happened in airplane mode.
That is why I am looking for a system logging application or some equivalent method.
P
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Yeah, I re-read your OP, and noticed you said it was happening in airplane mode.
The S-Pen suggestion above seems worth pursuing.
Good luck!

I have the same problem. It would just randomly vibrate. I think is something to do with Google notifications.
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