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Recently, I've been considering getting a Nexus One, however, most of the reviews I read say that the N1's capacitive buttons are a little unresponsive. You must tap the upper half of the button as opposed to the bottom half of the button.
I've also read that some of the cyanogen roms have fixed this problem. Can anyone give me more insight on this issue?
I've never had a problem with mine.
I saw a review saying that they got in the way when typing w/ the onscreen keyboard, but I haven't even had that, and I'd like to think that I have pretty normal-sized fingers.
Some people have problems, others don't i personally haven't. I wouldn't consider it to be something important enough to sway me from a sale though.
Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
Im sure when 2.2 update comes out this fix will be passed on to the stock version too (at least as far as im aware it hasnt already!?). So tbh this isnt an issue for you not to get a nexus one...also, there's no point getting a nexus one if ur too scared to unlock the bootloader!!
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Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
Im sure when 2.2 update comes out this fix will be passed on to the stock version too (at least as far as im aware it hasnt already!?). So tbh this isnt an issue for you not to get a nexus one...also, there's no point getting a nexus one if ur too scared to unlock the bootloader!!
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Definitely! That's one of the biggest reasons why I want an N1. It has a good root and dev community and gets android updates first.
I just thought it'd be annoying to have to use a phone with crappy capacitive buttons, but I'm glad to hear that the problem has been fixed.
The only other thing I'm worried about is the dualtouch but it's most definitely going to get fixed in the next update.
Thanks to everyone for their input. I'll definitely be picking up an N1 soon
I have rooted and custom roms etc and I still hate the capacitive buttons with a passion. They are not nearly enough to topple the overall awesome that is the N1 but man I hate those things.
I only hate those buttons, when Nex is in my car mount!
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Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
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Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.
PrawnPoBoy said:
Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.
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I also haven't noticed any change in the sensitivity with different ROMs or kernels. For me though, sometimes if I hit right on top of the button it won't register. I am used to just tapping it a little above and it works everytime.
As others have said, this is definitely not a deal breaker for me or shouldn't be for any person IMO. This phone's pros far outweigh the cons.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
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When someone is doing that you should just say that it has Finger print authentication technology
absolutely true and this was my discovery today (day 4 with n1). the buttons work fine if you cheat towards the top of the button area and overlap into the screen area.
that solved it for me.
resolved for me for now...
xboomer55 said:
absolutely true and this was my discovery today (day 4 with n1). the buttons work fine if you cheat towards the top of the button area and overlap into the screen area.
that solved it for me.
resolved for me for now...
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Did you just buy your N1 from Google brand new?
Those buttons are a pain in the bum, but you get used to them, the bigger problem is if the phone gets too cold it starts mis-registering the touchscreen necessitating a reboot or a bunch of mucking around to fix it. This is the biggest annoyance with the phone for me, hopefully they fix the screen calibration in 2.2!
Almost swapped mine for a Desire, thinking less of doing so now, unless anyone can offer a good reason
I got my N1 straight from Google on day one, and I'm currently running CM 5.06
I find the capacitive buttons to be _awful_ if I tap directly on them it takes 2-5 attempts to get it to register.
However, I have found that if I swipe from the button down off the bottom of the button it registers ever single time.
I'm pretty convinced that the problem isn't the digitiser itself but in the driver that splits that section of the digitiser off. I believe it checks to see if there is upward movement before registering a button tap and if it does detect upward motion it cancels the tap event and forwards the event as a touch screen event. I also thing that because I have pretty big fingers any time I press the flattening of my finger registers as a slight upward motion.
If I could find the button "sub"-driver I'd be hacking at it right now.
Still, I wouldn't give up my N1.
SilentMobius said:
I got my N1 straight from Google on day one, and I'm currently running CM 5.06
I find the capacitive buttons to be _awful_ if I tap directly on them it takes 2-5 attempts to get it to register.
However, I have found that if I swipe from the button down off the bottom of the button it registers ever single time.
I'm pretty convinced that the problem isn't the digitiser itself but in the driver that splits that section of the digitiser off. I believe it checks to see if there is upward movement before registering a button tap and if it does detect upward motion it cancels the tap event and forwards the event as a touch screen event. I also thing that because I have pretty big fingers any time I press the flattening of my finger registers as a slight upward motion.
If I could find the button "sub"-driver I'd be hacking at it right now.
Still, I wouldn't give up my N1.
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Just realized that!!
It does not get the upward movement
It gets: right, left & down
So this means, one could set different options for different directions...
hacker01 said:
Recently, I've been considering getting a Nexus One, however, most of the reviews I read say that the N1's capacitive buttons are a little unresponsive. You must tap the upper half of the button as opposed to the bottom half of the button.
I've also read that some of the cyanogen roms have fixed this problem. Can anyone give me more insight on this issue?
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I have noticed no issues when holding the phone in my hands but the responsiveness is not that great if the phone is flat on a desk or a similar surface. I wonder what if anything the accelerometer may play a factor.
PrawnPoBoy said:
Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.
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I dunna man, my 3-year-old daughter figured it out within a minute of getting my phone. I set her up in a game and she decided she wanted something else, so she messed with the capacitive buttons until she got out of the game. Once she had it once or twice (~5-10 seconds for her to figure out each time) it was pretty much instant after that. If a 3-yo can figure it out, I'm pretty sure it's not THAT difficult. Annoying, sure....but not difficult.
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Did you just buy your N1 from Google brand new?
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Yes. Direct from Google.
Wow there's definitely a good mix of answers. I thought that the newer batches of N1's fixed the capacitive button problem, but apparently not.
I guess there's not a definite answer. It seems the only conclusion you can make is that some N1's may still have the problem, some may not. Some can be fixed with custom roms and unlocking the bootloader and some cannot. Your results may very.
EDIT: After rereading some of the previous posts (more carefully. excuse my sleep deprived state lol), the capacitive button issue might actually be more of a feature than an issue. I've read similar posts about the capacitive buttons having that sort of "motion detection" thing to prevent accident presses. Hopefully for anyone still having the problem, you can reread some of the posts on this page and give their methods a try
I haven't had a problem with mine but I haven't had the problems most people say they have with the phone so I would recommend this phone to anyone that wants an android phone
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I haven't seen this addressed here, but is anyone else experiencing flakey Nook Color touch screen behavior?
Sometimes it seems like there are random "ghost" touch/taps to the screen. It's very annoying, but power cycling or just locking and unlocking the device (by pressing power and getting back to lock screen) seems to fix it.
Here's a YouTube video which appears pretty close to what I'm experiencing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiHH6mdH0WU&feature=related
Any insight would be appreciated. I've only had the Nook Color for 3-4 days, so if it is a problem specifically with my unit, I'm thinking I may need to exchange it.
I seem to be having the same problem, too. I DO hope it's the software and not the digitizer, though.
Oh, look further down this forum section. There's another thread about it and it has a recalibration procedure.
Its definitely the software. I was having issues and recalibrated and it works a lot better now.
I almost think b&n screwed up the edges on purpose to make page turning easier... seemed to be black holes around the screen edges and those seem to be gone now. Tested with a touch test app and it works correctly now (although I didn't test before the calibration so I can't confirm that didnt work fine before the calibration...)
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how did u recalabrate it
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how did u recalabrate it
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http://www.nookdevs.com/Recalibrate_the_NookColor_touch_screen
Additionally, I went ahead and sent back to factory defaults for the 1.0.1 update and I tested the screen before recalibrating.
Exactly as I thought, the edges of the screen are calibrated so that when you get near the edge of the screen, it essentially "rolls" all the way to the edge... so there's a very strong "gravity effect" near the edges of the screen until you run the reconfiguration steps as posted above.
It seems that corner touch screen sensitivity issues are prevalent among all nook color users. What I'm wondering is, does nookie Froyo have this issue as well?
Yes, or at least for me.
No difference on nookie froyo for me either. I'm pretty sure its a hardware defect and not a software one.
I'm on a rooted stock, but my edge sensitivity issues went away when I loaded one of the overclock kernels. I don't know how the two could be linked, but it is the only explanation I have for the difference. I'm not sure if that's been explored on Nookie, but I thought I would share since that would point to a software issue rather than hardware.
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I'm pretty sure its a hardware defect and not a software one.
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That I'm not so sure of. Using "Touch Test" I see all touches, but they seem to get shifted slightly when I press near the edges. Maybe this could get solved in the driver (maybe with some help of calibration tool). I hope to have time to play with this sometime soon.
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No difference on nookie froyo for me either. I'm pretty sure its a hardware defect and not a software one.
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How can you be so sure?
If i use google market, sometimes the search button is hard to press,
but using appbrain market it works 100% of the time without problems.
No its not H/W I think, run some tests and corners work fine.
Its certainly something else, I also have better response after loading OC.
I've seen the same thing (I would bet every nook owner has.) The Market Search especially takes *%)(!%&! forever to get to work for me.
I've seen the same behaviour as well, some apps the corners take 18,013,108 tries to get to work, other apps I'm all "Whoa, first try and it worked?!".
I put the 950 OC on my autonoot but then I started playing with Froyo on a C10 SD card (very quick) so I don't know if the OC's actually helped with the corners or not. And of course this is the one day I leave it at home since I got it.
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I've seen the same thing (I would bet every nook owner has.) The Market Search especially takes *%)(!%&! forever to get to work for me.
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Use Menu>Search instead of trying to touch the top magnifying glass.
Happens to me with Froyo. I seriously doubt its hardware related. Seemed to work fine on the stock B&N.
It is common for digitizers to be less accurate along the edges but the Nook Color seems worse than normal. I've noticed the problem regardless of kernel or rom used.
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the LCD Density. All buttons/elements are a lot easier to press when I switched to 240-250. It does look ugly though, it'd be a lot prettier when we get a custom rom running.
Sigvard is right. Fixed for me by chaging my LCD Density. I set it to 200, which is a little too large for me, so I may lower it. But since doing that I have had no problems at all.
Guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889951&highlight=LCD+Density
Ha! I have the exact problem even with stock rom. I though it was the problem of the particular corner of the unit I got! It is much easier to press the button in landscape view.
I dont believe its the screen. Download AppBrain and tap the search button. it works 100% of the time
It is the screen. Use a drawing program and notice how it is easy to draw a straight line in the middle and not as easy on the sides and corners. Note, you need to drag your finger slowly or else you will see more interpolation.
Raising the LCD density just hides the problem by making the hit zone bigger. Fortunately, I can live with the it.
Is there any programme to for screen calibration? So part of the screen seems not responsive.
That is a hardware issue not a Calabration issue..
does somebody know if this "hardware issue" is present at all note's?
i found that my screen is a bit unresponsive at the top right corner. i cant draw about 2mm to the border of the screen (with the pen)!
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That is a hardware issue not a Calabration issue..
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However when I flash a new rom the screen get responsive for a short while. After that I need to press the screen harder. On the bottom right hand corner has this problem.
helmetbox said:
However when I flash a new rom the screen get responsive for a short while. After that I need to press the screen harder. On the bottom right hand corner has this problem.
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Did you ever solve this problem? Mine started doing it after it updated KL7 OTA.
Well guys I'd like for someone to chime in on this. I thought for sure this was a hardware issue. I'm on my second note now. My first note seemed like it was having issues with the lower right corner of the touch screen. I thought maybe it was a rom issue. I flashed clean KL7 and it seemed to suddenly be better then after a little bit it got worse. I have my second note and I flashed KL7 right away on it. Now after a little bit it seems to be getting less responsive, still better than my first, but I'm beginning to think this is a software issue. Any of you having these issues what Rom are you on? Should I try changing out this note for a third and see what happens? I may flash to some other firmwares to see too.
my top right is a bit unresponsive as well. . it works but seems a bit off. .
I used swipepad , really useful taskswitcher
It does not work when phone is connected any charger.
I've definitely noticed the phone being less responsive when on the charger, but this seems to lose responsiveness over time off charger and on battery.
I've had other phones that from time to time would act a little wonky when using them while charging.
Hey,
I've had some display problems, both with regards to calibration and also when it's charging.
I have made this video to demonstrate a problem I have of calibration. Watch how the display detects a signal at a point offset from where I press with the pen.
For me the problem I saw using the *#*#2664#*#* test is that the last 10 pixels or so on the 2 end sides of the screen don't respond.
For the pen offset is cause of the left or right handed settings, I find that holding the pen and rotating it so that my thumb presses the button of the pen instead of the indicator finger gives pretty good accurate results.
I'm definitely thinking this is at least more software related than hardware. I don't remember noticing any problems when on KJ1 or KK1. So I flashed back to KK1. It started it up and then I did a quick factory reset. This is completely stock/unrooted. Anyway bottom right corner seems to be having no problems detecting my touch now. I'll leave it on this for a few days and play around and see if it seems to lose sensitivity again. If it does I'll let you guys know, but for this to be a hardware problem I can't imagine it being this intermittent. Any of you on KL7 that mentioned this issue, are you guys completely stock KL7 or using the CF-Root Kernel? I know someone mentioned losing functionality in music player and torch and it seemed to be an issue with an alternate kernel.
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Hey,
I've had some display problems, both with regards to calibration and also when it's charging.
I have made this video to demonstrate a problem I have of calibration. Watch how the display detects a signal at a point offset from where I press with the pen.
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That´s normal - pen is calibrated to use it at a certain angle - try to change the setup from right handed to left handed and you will see a different offset if you make the same test again.
The offset should be the same on each area. Only if this is not the case i would say, there is an issue with the screen.
Hey, ok so it is a deliberate software decision. Kinda sucks- I'd think I'd sooner like to have it type directly below where I write. I'm guessing it is an attempt to account for the fact that the glass has a finite thickness. Sooooo does anybody fancy writing a kernel alteration for this...?
i also find it more annoying than useful
Couple days on KK1 and what I thought was a hardware problem still seems to be fine. It's detecting much better in the bottom right corner where I was having issues on KL7.
I am having the same issue with the reduced responsiveness of the bottom right corner. I've noticed it after updating to KL7. Maybe is the driver of the screen.
Is there any way we could report this back to Samsung?
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Hello.
I have the same problem ate bottom right side of the screen. I am ate LA4.
what should I do?
Although the problem was nearly imperceptible some days ago, while the note was connected to the charger, I've noted a very small area near the bottom right side of the screen where it was difficult to write using the stylus with SMemo. On the opposite side the loudspeaker is present; and so I've thought it might be correlated with the magnetic field of the loudspeaker. Today I've performed the *#*#2664#*#* test with and withouth the charger, but the problem is not occurred. Because of these devices are always more complex I prefer snap closures for my cases.
I've started to have touch screen issues the past few days.
Any idea what may cause it?
Sometimes, when I touch the screen, say in settings, I touch one item, but a different item is selected somewhere randomly on the screen.
Happens in TWRP as well. If I select options to wipe, it will select others, and then it doesn't swipe over to execute the action.
No ideas? What would make touches appear where I don't touch, even on TWRP?
I tried the keyboard calibration on HTC's keyboard.
Any ideas? Screen protector?
It comes and goes.
I can't believe no one else is having this issue now.
I don't do stupid things with my phone, like drop it, put it in my pocket and sit on it, and wash it with soap and water.
Since I've started running Lollipop, it appears that my case is causing this issue. I've never had this problem before.
However, I updated my wife's phone to Lollipop Sense and now she is having the same issues with a different case.
Take the cases off, and they work more responsively.
I can only chalk this up to being a Lollipop issue, and hope it will be fixed soon.
mcwups1 said:
I can't believe no one else is having this issue now.
I don't do stupid things with my phone, like drop it, put it in my pocket and sit on it, and wash it with soap and water.
Since I've started running Lollipop, it appears that my case is causing this issue. I've never had this problem before.
However, I updated my wife's phone to Lollipop Sense and now she is having the same issues with a different case.
Take the cases off, and they work more responsively.
I can only chalk this up to being a Lollipop issue, and hope it will be fixed soon.
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I opened another thread about a similar issue I'm having after Lollipop. My gesture launch randomly stops working and I have to reboot. No other issues for me though. I have an anti-glare screen protector on mine, but had no issues before the update. I've thought about a factory reset to see if that would cure what ails.
I'm on tmo but have the same exact issues. This is what i've found so far...
I turned on the developer options and turned on show pointer. This will show you where the touches are landing.
If you scroll down slowly, you can see most of the touches are in line (up and down) and not random on the screen.
I've removed all programs that have screen overlays (screen filter, twilight etc)
I've removed the cases thinking they might be causing the issue, but removing them only slightly improved the issue I thought...
Sometimes its hard to reproduce the effect, its not consistent. So this leads me to believe that it could be a process that's running in the background that calls attention at the moment you're touching the screen, and then refocuses the screen to your point of contact. And in between it thinks you're moving your finger when you really aren't.
In any event, I can't find the exact cause of this. But, it definitely started after the update to lollipop. I had none of these issues before. I even got the phone exchanged because I believed the digitizer went bad or something. But this issue exists on my original phone, its replacement, and now on my wife's current phone and that phones replacement (across 4 phones).
I'm currently working on my wife's replacement (4 or 5 non-oem programs installed) and continue to have the problem. But it is not consistent as I can't readily reproduce it.
What i've done to try and learn more is when I see the screen pointer light up in random places, I keep pressure on the screen so I can observe where the screen is registering contact. It almost looks as if it's trying to pull down the shade. Whether it be because of the dual points of contact and it thinks we're swiping down, or because of another program that is stealing focus for whatever reason.
If anyone else has insights into this, please let us know as this is more than frustrating! I keep calling people in hanouts with a lot of people and they aren't happy about it lol.
Also for reference, we're using ADW ex launcher instead of Stock HTC Sense. But even when I remove ADW (uninstall) and run sense, it continues to happen. So it's not that.