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maybe with imat they will get multitasking and flash

Mods, who do I make a new forum request to. I would like a " I have never used an Apple computer, but I hate them. I have never used an iPhone , But I hate it. I have know nothing about their products or their customer service, but they suck. " forum.
Just so we can consolidate the hundreds of " I hate Apple threads " here at XDA. Or why doesn't XDA just fire up their iphone-developers domain and we can stick them all there.
Apple is a great company, I have been using Apple/Macs for 30 years without a crash or hitch. I have 5 Macs, 2 iPods and an iPhone yet unlike most Windows users I don't feel the overwhelming need to bash M$ every chance.

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Mods, who do I make a new forum request to. I would like a " I have never used an Apple computer, but I hate them. I have never used an iPhone , But I hate it. I have know nothing about their products or their customer service, but they suck. " forum.
Just so we can consolidate the hundreds of " I hate Apple threads " here at XDA. Or why doesn't XDA just fire up their iphone-developers domain and we can stick them all there.
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Wow. I didn't know I had to taste sh*t to know that it's going to taste like sh*t. But yes, I somewhat agree, just because my thread was first! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624356
denco7 said:
Apple is a great company, I have been using Apple/Macs for 30 years without a crash or hitch. I have 5 Macs, 2 iPods and an iPhone yet unlike most Windows users I don't feel the overwhelming need to bash M$ every chance.
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Most of us have a complex that makes us not WANT to like them. So we ride out the put-downs that make us feel better about our loyalty. I don't want to like the Jonas Brothers, so I don't listen to them, turn them off whenever they come on, and make fun of those that like them. I'm sure that if I listened to all of their music, I'd fine at least ONE song I'd like, but then again, I'm also not interested in buying a dozen d*ldos to put up my a** either.

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They won't and you know it.

Very well said rory, especially the sh*t part was awesome
@denco7,
You should take a look at this before you reply further

You may laugh at me, but I actually think the iMat is a good idea. If designed right it could be used in multi-sensory rooms for people with disabilities

Fallen Spartan said:
You may laugh at me, but I actually think the iMat is a good idea. If designed right it could be used in multi-sensory rooms for people with disabilities
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I'm not laughing at you, but I wouldn't think it's a good idea. A large display for sensory needs is different than a large interface for sensory needs. Make the display on the floor and the interface on a 13" panel on the wall, then you have a nice setup.
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Fallen Spartan said:
You may laugh at me, but I actually think the iMat is a good idea. If designed right it could be used in multi-sensory rooms for people with disabilities
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Well if Apple do that they will probably sue The company in the link who made it and thought of the idea!
flyboy

denco7 said:
Mods, who do I make a new forum request to. I would like a " I have never used an Apple computer, but I hate them. I have never used an iPhone , But I hate it. I have know nothing about their products or their customer service, but they suck. " forum.
Just so we can consolidate the hundreds of " I hate Apple threads " here at XDA. Or why doesn't XDA just fire up their iphone-developers domain and we can stick them all there.
Apple is a great company, I have been using Apple/Macs for 30 years without a crash or hitch. I have 5 Macs, 2 iPods and an iPhone yet unlike most Windows users I don't feel the overwhelming need to bash M$ every chance.
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It's as simple as you see another Apple hate thread, DON'T click on it if it makes you butt hurt. No one is forcing you to click on the thread and read the posts.

denco7
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FAIL
Apple blows

rorytmeadows said:
I'm not laughing at you, but I wouldn't think it's a good idea. A large display for sensory needs is different than a large interface for sensory needs. Make the display on the floor and the interface on a 13" panel on the wall, then you have a nice setup.
Behavior Therapist for the DD population 5 years.
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Well yes, I knew it wouldn't work directly, hence why I said it would need to be designed differently, but yes your right

Being an MS person and bashing Apple (or vice versa) makes you feel like you are part of a community, and that people sitting on the fence will just get caught in the crossfire and drawn in at some point anyway.
I personally think that Apple products will continue to become more ridiculous. The iPad is pointless in my opinion. Tablet PCs aren't popular anyway. Next thing they'll probably do is give the iPad some kind of phone functionality!
Aesthetically Apple wins hands down I think, because they look so awesome. Although saying that there are some Android phones that look really really nice, so maybe its a sign that Apple may be threatened in the looks department!

Well, Apple...

Dear Apple,
I was talking to a friend and she solely bought Apple products because they were branded "Apple" despite the ridiculous price and low specs. Call me a hater/whatever but I still don't like Apple for this sole reason.
I saw this in the funnies today from the newspaper and I had to wake up early to post this before school..
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lol!
I agree with you, but there are many more reasons to add
Just wait a bit that off topic addicts see your thread!

I have heard that apple products are getting a new kind of wireless charging system that runs off the smug and hot air coming from the owners mouths!

Awww, the little dog is wearing glasses. Funny strip.
good day.

That's what my whole family does.
Me: I got a new phone.
Aunt: What kind Apple?
Me: No. Samsung Vibrant
Aunt: What is that? I never heard of it. It must not be good since it's not an iPhone.
Me: No. It's better than the iPhone. It's android.
Aunt: Well, it's not apple so it's not GOOD at all.
Blah blah I asked her why the iPhone was so great, she said it's APPLE. blah blah blah.
I hate people that just buys thing because it's the latest trend.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=7680638
Apple customers just like being abused.

I hate apple because the metal on teh side of my ipad is chipped and i cut my thumb on it
The word sue comes to mind

The only reason why apple is so successful is its (blame me for being a hypocrite if you feel like it):
1) propaganda (oh apple is cool and all that crap)
2) amount of dev's coding apps for it
3) low specs (haha), but great software utilization...[one part that htc fails at])
4) (redundant) but it's immense amount of apps.. again..

LOL. Reminds me of the argument I had with my co-worker when I got my Incredible. He was telling me that the iPhone was the best phone out there. When I asked him why, he says because of the nice icons.
I didn't know how to respond but to laugh.
This video is an accurate portrayal of him and a lot of iPhone guys I know. lol

If all the apps ever made for iphone were ported to android , this will create the most humongous market for android any phone company has ever seen ..
Android is the new green guy on the block, give it a year more, the app world will blow iphone away .
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I had to buy a MacBook pro recently, not because its better (although the build and quality is top notch and just about unmatched) but because I needed it for iOS development. I hated how expensive it was for so little spec wise. $400 for the 8GB upgrade WTF! If it wasn't for me requiring OSX, I'd probably never would own a Mac computer.
That said, their phone's are great no matter how you look at it. Antenna **** up aside, most of the drop call blame should squarely be attributed to AT&T. It's a AT&T/US issue.
Now dont get me wrong, I don't blame anyone for hating the US iPhone due to its crappy service because IT IS a legitimate issue. I also don't blame anyone for hating the Apple brand because of it's positioning (style over utility). But when it comes to the iPhone, they got it right.
I was a Palm OS and WinMo user long before all of this, and many of you probably were too. But the original iPhone was such a huge leap forward in terms of what a smart phone user experience should be like. It wasnt as versatile as WinMo but what it made up for in day to day experience was well worth sacrificing some of the utility.
Today iOS 4 has progressed to a state where you pretty much can't complain. The user experience is still top notch and only matched (and maybe even succeeded) by WebOS, and the utility that used to be missing is now there. The phone itself is quality (of course with its issues like almost any other phone). The specs are aggressive, competitive and well priced unlike their other products.
What made the iPhone good is now being matched or exceeded by others (Android/Web OS). But like I said, it has progressed and still is one of the best mobile OSs out there. Hell even the jail breaking community is not much different than what goes on here.
I own both the EVO and a iPhone 4, and if there's one thing that the iPhone still does better, it's giving a amazing experience straight out of the box. I have to spend hours and hours to get the EVO running competively, and I'm still waiting on some things to come through via the amazing developers here, and while I could (and probably should) jail break my iPhone 4, I haven't yet. It runs great as is. And that's a large part of what's keeping the iPhone slightly ahead with non techies.
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Ohhh my Godddd ! :-0
Lol perfect portrayal of the ppl who want iphone. Haha! And don't know why ...
rice247 said:
LOL. Reminds me of the argument I had with my co-worker when I got my Incredible. He was telling me that the iPhone was the best phone out there. When I asked him why, he says because of the nice icons.
I didn't know how to respond but to laugh.
This video is an accurate portrayal of him and a lot of iPhone guys I know. lol
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Why iPhone 4s sells to almost 2 million over the weekend?

How that happened? 2 million or 5 million? If that is true Android is way out of Apple's league.

dude.. it didn't sell about 2 million... iPhone 4S sold more than 4 million units in the first 3 days..
see here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_and_samsung_break_their_own_sales_records-news-3277.php

I have no idea what that first post is even supposed to mean.

Because its a great device that meets and surpasses the needs of many... can't believe that's a serious question. .trollololol.

Why when someone mention iPhone android owner bash them. But clearly iPhone is better than android?

Excellent branding and customer loyalty!
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It's a functional device out of the box. The general population doesn't have the time to root and customize their device and flash ROMs. They don't care about "making it their own". They just want a fast and functional device without any tweaking.
It's a walled garden...sure...but most people don't care.

It sells 2 million in a weekend for many reasons. First. and foremost it has a large fan population, hence a population who are dedicated to the iOS. Two. the delaying of announcement has increased the fan base's anxiety and desire for the iPhone hence sudden burst in demand.
And why do Android users hate iPhone users? From the same reason you think iOS is the best. The same mindless people in both groups. It is the most narrow minded and uninformative statement which shows your level of knowledge and understanding of software or comparing things at hand.
No software is the best, best is dependent on the situation at hand. Yes they may have an advantage over another in certain areas, but it ends there, still a stalemate. You think i should get a cashier or a barcode scanner system for a lemonade stand because it offers the best management system on stock? No im wastingmoney on something I'm only doing today, get the point? f not I'll elaborate even more with my post below. Btw english does not seem to be your first language so I apologize if you cannot understand it.
Oki so now lets put iOS in the hands of someone who knows his way around UIs. Think he's gonna enjoy the simplicity iOS over the functionality of Android? Why not ask the forum if you can't think of the answer.
Now do you think a beginner computer user would prefer android? Judging from your perspective you'd say no, and I completely agree with you. A beginner would not even think of pressing a arrow pointing up or a three row and column square as the app drawer. All from my experience with my friends.
Get the point now?

Because they all are islaves man! There coming to get the rest of the world! Lol
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Because women and children like phones?

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Because women and children like phones?
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+ 1. Lol
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To circumvent stupidity I'm just reposting the post I made in a similar thread.
Just because you're fanboys doesn't justify blindness... Unless you're blind fanboys and in that case why do you have a touch screen phone?
jokes aside, iPhone doesn't sell strictly by brand. It is a device who's hardware (not internals but aesthetics) are unrivaled aside from a tiny screen. The build quality is superb and doesn't feel like it was haphazardly glued together like HTC devices or like Mattel built them like Samsung devices. The only hardware company that rivaled iphone's build quality is Nokia and they're onboard with WP7. Next, the OS is infinitely more fluid than android. On average an android device on the UI runs around 22-27 fps where iOS is a steady 60 as far back as the 3gs. It's optimized for it's superb hardware and it shows. Next, fragmentation isn't an issue. I can play infinity blade on a 3gs just as well as a 4gs and 2 years in the real world is like a century in the tech world. Overall it is a higher quality product for gaming, media, and basic phone functions. If you only get your phones to mod then android is for you but for quality, WP7 or iOS.
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spirikitik said:
How that happened? 2 million or 5 million? If that is true Android is way out of Apple's league.
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It's probably due to this...
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I think there are 2 reasons why Iphone 4s sell like hot cakes...
1) Many royal users had been waiting to upgrade their iphone 3GS/4.....that's why Apple miss their Q3 forecast ;-)
2) Steve Job sad news - created some impact also.....
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Arsaw said:
I think there are 2 reasons why Iphone 4s sell like hot cakes...
2) Steve Job sad news - created some impact also.....
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Some impact? It's supposed to be serious dude...
And Steve jobs is like a god and Apple is it's heaven, don't be surprised that there are idiots that formed a cult...
A meteor fell down, and cracks open to send you this message!

It's not really surprising.
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who cares why they sold more. Who cares why they are considered best. Lets allow windows and and android to exist. I have my reasons for preferring android. but lets consider for a moment how many jobs These devices create. Lets also consider the choices the devices provide.
If the iphone and Ios are the best why doesnt every other maker give up. We really only need one phone right. Cases will make them look different and Apple can decide when we upgrade. Sounds like a great idea to me.

Are all iPhone users kind of uppity? My neighbors just upgraded and think their crap smells sweeter than most.

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Why iPhone 4s sells to almost 2 million over the weekend?
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I'll tell you why. Who cares. That's why.

hey op, why isheep like you trolling around ot?
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Anybody else see VHS VS. Betamax parallels to Android VS iPhone?

I don't know where this thought line came from but I just started thinking and I'm seeing a surprising amount of parallels between the "Videotape format war" and the current Android vs. iPhone war.
Here are just a few (that I'm sure people will be able to add to) :
1.VHS was the cheaper format which was a big factor in it's dominance; Android has gotten on to so many devices in so many different price ranges just about anyone can afford a Smartphone. Betamax was the choice of people with disposable income and videophiles; iPhone is sold at a significant markup for people with excess money to buy as a status symbol.
2. VHS and Betamax entered a sort of race to fit as much video recording space on their respective format; Android and iPhone are engaged in a crazy war of features one-up-manship (coining the word now).
3. VHS won because it was the cheaper and more available format; Android is dominating as far as marketshare for being cheaper and far more widespread (just about anyone can have an Android phone, even people with older WinMo phones, looking at HTC HD2).
Anybody else see anything or am I just making connections that aren't there?

I thought we weren't allowed to have android vs apple threads because they would lead to too much flaming
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It's not an Apple vs Android thread. It's a comparison between format wars in the 80s to the current Smart Phone war. If the mods don't see any potential for actual discussion here they can and should close it.

Isn't point 1 and point 3 the same point?.

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Isn't point 1 and point 3 the same point?.
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Good point. I see them as different because 1 is just a comparison of what the formats have become from a consumer standpoint and 3 is a comparison of the winner of the Format war and what appears to be becoming the winner of the Smart Phone war.
I would consider it pretty accurate to say that price is going to be the deciding factor. The Nexus 7 has been a massive success for Google and I think it's going to represent a paradigm shift in the tablet market.

VHS vs betamax is completely different to the phone market. Different phones have different price points, hardware and software. VHS vs betamax is similar to HD vs Blueray. And in those situations there can only be one winner for mass production and international exports, so companies will make it so there is only 1 winner. There will never be 1 phone manufacturer there are too many variables, target market groups and consumer preferences.
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VHS vs betamax is completely different to the phone market. Different phones have different price points, hardware and software. VHS vs betamax is similar to HD vs Blueray. And in those situations there can only be one winner for mass production and international exports, so companies will make it so there is only 1 winner. There will never be 1 phone manufacturer there are too many variables, target market groups and consumer preferences.
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Tripe. Your comparison shows a total lack of understanding. I can only assume that you have never watched a betamax video.......
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I see Apple as Laserdisc - beefy, better sound quality, first consumer disc based format, goes out of style real fast.
I see Android as DVD - more streamlined, easier to transport, better use of space for the money.
I loved my laserdiscs for the novelty, but I'll stick with DVD any day of the week.
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OP analogy is pretty bad.

Were there lawsuits out the wazoo in the Betamax wars?

Trolling wasn't invented yet.
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What about HD DVD and bluray?
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That wasn't even a war, that was a skirmish between a first-world power and three kids from down the street with supersoakers. HD DVD never stood a chance with only one studio and a paltry number of manufacturers backing it. Bluray had Sony and Panasonic on board off the rip and pretty much every major studio except for MGM I believe. I didn't pay that much attention except to not that HD DVD was going to go down hard so if nothing else had decided me on a PS3 over XBox 360 that would have.

I can't believe I still have a betamax machine, with tons of vhs video... but no vhs player or betamax tapes.
Does this mean I will end up with an iphone that has no apps, and lots of android software?

Absolutely!
Hey, I googled "iPhones and android like VHS and Beta". and your comment here was second on the Google search page, so I had to join to agree. Iphones are too exclusive and a nightmare doing most things that are not with Apple compatible software (like trying to download gmail). It will be there downfall.

Never heard that argument comparison. It's not a great one tbh. It's incredibly favorable to have a Universal media format (i.e. bluray hd dvd), not so much for phones.

I know this is an old post, but still relevant in 2017
Virgin Mobile U.S.A. just went all Apple, no more android phones. Another pet peeve: the usb ports. We had Mini-B and went to Micro-B. USB ports should have all been standardized in my opinion. I have older chargers with with mini-b usb type that are useless now because most electronics are using the micro-b type.
I sort of understand the Blu-ray vs Dvd and at least most players can use both.

Android and iPhone

Alright, I'm sure some people will get a little crazy about this subject but I'm just wondering what others think...
We all love our Android devices and how open and free they feel but some of us like the "quality" of an iPhone..
I've been debating whether to stick to android or try out iOS. Now I know how great android is and how limited iOS can be but I haven't been able to find anything where someone talks about rooted android devices vs JB'd iPhones.. we all the android is better than an iPhone when they are both not hacked or rooted but what do you guys think is the better device for development and features after its been hacked?
I've seen some pretty cool stuff on iPhone but I also love how we can replace our stock apps to have different themes or better functions,etc.
I basically just want to know what everyone's thoughts our about this.
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Moved to OT, go ahead OT´ers!!

Android > iPhone
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Android still has more features/customizability/ whateveryouwannacallit after it's been 'hacked'. And a lot of the newer Android phones have just as good build quality as the iPhone.

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Alright, I'm sure some people will get a little crazy about this subject but I'm just wondering what others think...
We all love our Android devices and how open and free they feel but some of us like the "quality" of an iPhone..
I've been debating whether to stick to android or try out iOS. Now I know how great android is and how limited iOS can be but I haven't been able to find anything where someone talks about rooted android devices vs JB'd iPhones.. we all the android is better than an iPhone when they are both not hacked or rooted but what do you guys think is the better device for development and features after its been hacked?
I've seen some pretty cool stuff on iPhone but I also love how we can replace our stock apps to have different themes or better functions,etc.
I basically just want to know what everyone's thoughts our about this.
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Android OS is superior regardless if it is Rooted or iOS is Jailbroke or not. From what I hear JBing an iDevice makes it slow and unstable, whereas rooting and Android device can only improve its performance. Jailbreaking doesn't get you out of the garden, it only puts a hole in the wall you can look out. Now if you were to say you would like to carry both I can understand, but just trading from Android to iOS is a bad idea development wise.
Edit: I am Android biased of course, but long story short you can see from my sig I do have some value for iOS. If I had to choose only one it would be Android, easy choice. But I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy owning both. Although I think an iPhone over an Android phone would be a huge mistake for anybody except older people that are unfamiliar with tech.

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I just can't put my finger on it, but this thread seems strangely familiar...

xaccers said:
I just can't put my finger on it, but this thread seems strangely familiar...
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This thread was moved here from elsewhere.
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OP...I'm not seeing the need to get an iPhone other than buying into the hype about Apple products. You know darn well that Android devices can do the same and more. If you want the iPhone look, use a MIUI rom.
There's tons of threads in this forum alone comparing Apple vs. Android and the consensus most of the time is Android devices are better.
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vanessaem said:
There's tons of threads in this forum alone comparing Apple vs. Android and the consensus most of the time is Android devices are better.
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That'll be why it seems so familiar, because it's been covered umpteen dozen times before!

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That'll be why it seems so familiar, because it's been covered umpteen dozen times before!
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True but this time it's not the OP's fault. This thread came from a different forum.

I had the chance to use both of them and prefer android devices for a long list of reasons. I bought an ipad because well everyone on teh interwebs said it was best and that android tablets were not ready yet. after 2months i sold it, i wouldve sold it earlier but i wanted to wait for the ipad 2 jailbreak in case it improved anything. indeed it could add some features at the cost of stability and speed. at tnis time i already had an android phone and knew that android was moar capable especially when rooted, and so i sold my ipad to get a galaxy tab plus, and i would never switch back.
reasons for idevices were the higher density of high quality apps, which by now isnt true anymore. spontaneously i would say, unless you really really need that one app which is ios only, dont get an idevice.
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True but this time it's not the OP's fault. This thread came from a different forum.
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You're far too nice

I know there are other post like this but they haven't helped me in any way...yea I would love to carry both devices...if I could then I wouldn't have created this thread..I had an itouch before and I enjoyed it for a very long time...but when your look at iOS it seems more complete. Yea I love android and if I were to switch it would be difficult...another reason, look at the support for jb'd idevices...with android phones if u want good development then your selection of phones is really slimmed down.....for example, at Verizon they have a lot of cool phones, one of the best out now is the razr, but there's crappy development because of a locked bootloader...so its like if you don't get a nexus( or similar device) then your basically s.o.l. when it comes to development.. I think most people can agree that it sucks that u can't get the phone that you really want because you know there isn't great support behind it
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WP
I prefer windows.

Windows phone also looks very nice to...but Idk if its as looked down as what I think it might be lol
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