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G2X / LG Optimus 2

http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-android-smartphone-hands-on/#
I can't wait for this phone I had my doubts until they announced the fact that its going to be vanilla android. None that mask crap to bog down the phone. This will make it easier to root and develope for. Also LG should be able to release timley Android updates such as 2.3 and 2.4.

wondercoolguy said:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-android-smartphone-hands-on/#
I can't wait for this phone I had my doubts until they announced the fact that its going to be vanilla android. None that mask crap to bog down the phone. This will make it easier to root and develope for. Also LG should be able to release timley Android updates such as 2.3 and 2.4.
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2.3 is almost finished, lg is on the process of testing it on the device already. I heard it somewhere. So cheers!

yep I've read that as well I can not wait for the phone to come out. Now ppl need to buy it so Cyanogen will adopt it.

Looking at the bands this phone will run on if I'm not mistaking it looks like it will work on both T-Mobile and AT&T's 3G service. Can anyone either confirm or deny this. Wouldn't that be great, not having to worry about the phone turning nto a paper weight after the buy out.

vinnyjr said:
Looking at the bands this phone will run on if I'm not mistaking it looks like it will work on both T-Mobile and AT&T's 3G service. Can anyone either confirm or deny this. Wouldn't that be great, not having to worry about the phone turning nto a paper weight after the buy out.
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Yeah ive noticed on a few Android websites and blogs that it does support both, havnt seen any official confimation though, that would be nice.

That would be great but I'm not giving attwireless any of my money. Let's just cross our fingers and hope the FCC shoots it down.

Specs and thoughts on new tmobiles phones
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...ture-proofing-their-new-phones-to-run-on-att/

Looks like it have a new model number
http://www.bgr.com/nggallery/page-320/album-all/gallery-130/image/1747/
Hope we can still use the same roms

dieseldk said:
Looks like it have a new model number
http://www.bgr.com/nggallery/page-320/album-all/gallery-130/image/1747/
Hope we can still use the same roms
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Me too! then the developer community will be greater

Do you think the G2x will ship with an unlockable bootloader (like the Nexus phones)? If I can flash ROMs and have full control of my phone, this will be my next device.

I'm thinking that anything "G" branded will be embraced by develpoer community.....Please cyanogen

Here's a great initial review by MobileTechReview of T-Mobile LG G2X. I can't wait to get my hands on it http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=40455

Any updates for GB??

Just curious if anyone has heard Anything at all about an Update to GB for this device. The battery life is horrendous on Froyo with this device.

malickie said:
Just curious if anyone has heard Anything at all about an Update to GB for this device. The battery life is horrendous on Froyo with this device.
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Nope.......been hammering AT&T and LG with no luck. Mum's the word I guess.
When the New Nexus comes out, this phone will just be more of a novelty item at that point for the 3D ability (for me). I'm sick of waiting on Vendors and Carriers to release updates.

I'm with Gr8 on this one. As soon as the prime shows up on at&t this phone will he a hand me down. I just needed a phone because my 4th captivate took a dump. So $79 I couldn't pass it up.

BigCiX said:
I'm with Gr8 on this one. As soon as the prime shows up on at&t this phone will he a hand me down. I just needed a phone because my 4th captivate took a dump. So $79 I couldn't pass it up.
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Just a little fyi, officially its the Samsung Galaxy Nexus as of right now.
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CallMeAria said:
Just a little fyi, officially its the Samsung Galaxy Nexus as of right now.
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Prime, Galaxy Nexus or whatever its called. This phone will be dumped for it.

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Prime, Galaxy Nexus or whatever its called. This phone will be dumped for it.
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This topic is getting so old already. Everybody wants what they want when they want it and it doesnt work like that unless you are willing to develope Gingerbread for your Thrill on your own. This device just came out September 4, so it is a new device. Owners of this powerful phone should feel good about the SPECS of it and the soon to come dev support. We have dev support now but very little. Trust me when I say that we will get all we need and then some once this device is fully studied by different devs. Remember that the phone is just over a month old.Give it some time people!

I hear what you're saying, but many of us purchased the Thrill because of the promise to upgrade it to Gingerbread within a month of launch. I'm sure i'm not the only one, but if i had known it was going to be indefinitely postponed, I would have waited the extra month for the Galaxy S2. We as consumers shouldn't be lied to...if something is promised, it should be delivered.

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I hear what you're saying, but many of us purchased the Thrill because of the promise to upgrade it to Gingerbread within a month of launch. I'm sure i'm not the only one, but if i had known it was going to be indefinitely postponed, I would have waited the extra month for the Galaxy S2. We as consumers shouldn't be lied to...if something is promised, it should be delivered.
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No argument there. You are 100 percent right. But our device has one of a kind specs/hardware. No other device has the hardware setup that we have so you really cant discuss other phones having gingerbread while we dont. It makes sense that gingerbread has to be tweaked especially for the Thrill. Wouldnt want them to rush it and send out updates that dont fully support our device. Just my opinion.

Honestly I don't know why people are never happy with the Android version they have. Just because they're told about an update, they freak out and HAVE to have it right then, or they wanna jump ship. Half of them can't tell you what features the new Android version has. The only reason I'm working on GB and ICS is to fix the battery problem caused by froyo.
"Ask not what your Thrill can do for you, but what awesome things can you do with your Thrill!"

Well put.
I have no problems with my thrill at all. I KNOW that I have a POWERFUL device no matter what version of Android it is currently running. Come on people, DUAL CORE PROCESSOR, DUAL CHANNEL RAM(first and only of its kind), 1080p video recording and viewing, and not to mention the added luxury of 3D gaming, videos, and apps. what more could you possibly want your phone to do? I know that updates bring more functions as well as improves on hardware compatibility but my THRILL does enough for me to the point where I can wait for updates patiently and still enjoy my device.
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http://youtu.be/GjH4l52Dn90
DUAL CHANNEL will kill all other phones....at least until other companies implement the same technology with higher specs!

LG needs to start giving us information of the gb update. At least something so that we knowwhere this device stands as far as update.
Devine, as for no other device that has our features. How bout the EVO 3D. Similiar to this device and it came with gingerbread. Its just ashame that this is the only dual processing phone on the market with froyo.
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OK I just had a live chat with LG. He pretty much said LG has no part on updating their phones. Its all on Google and at&t. Both of those (Google & at&t) choose which devices get updated and when. So we should he hounding at&t.

Optimus 3d and LG thrill are the same. Only difference is the thrill is 4g and the o3d is 3g. Everything else is identical hardware wise.
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Evo 3d doesn't have dual channel ram.
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I guess I'm ok, with my thrill ..it is my first android phone (coming frm iPhone4), so I dont really know,what Gingerbread is? But I am disappointed in LG, for the very little support on the G slate....(updates)
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LG has nothing to do with the updates. It's all AT&T.
"Ask not what your Thrill can do for you, but what awesome things can you do with your Thrill!"

AzraelsVoice said:
LG has nothing to do with the updates. It's all AT&T.
"Ask not what your Thrill can do for you, but what awesome things can you do with your Thrill!"
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I wouldn't say ALL AT&T. In fact I would say LG has the biggest responsibility here. Its their device, their technology, they need to provide the drivers. LG has yet to give the Optimus 3D the GB update it promised [to release in October] for them in July. I heard it was pushed back to December. (Last Android Central podcast reported that.)
I agree AT&T could cause a large delay, but its not yet in their court. Right now LG is holding it up. When other non-branded versions see the update THEN you can start blaming AT&T.
That Android Central Podcast spoke a lot about this, and the Thrill was mentioned. LG is the newest manufacturer to the high-end android phone scene. Motorola and Samsung had their "growing pains" providing timely updates to phones, and have hopefully learned by this from their phones of last year.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)

quarlow said:
Motorola and Samsung had their "growing pains" providing timely updates to phones, and have hopefully learned by this from their phones of last year.
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Samsung hasn't learned at all. Take a look at their the captivate, fascinate, epic, vibrant, Droid charge and infuse. All lacking gb.

BigCiX said:
Samsung hasn't learned at all. Take a look at their the captivate, fascinate, epic, vibrant, Droid charge and infuse. All lacking gb.
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"Phones of last year" meant the Galaxy S variants, charge and Infuse are not even 6 months old. All those phones have GB ROMs. This IS a case where the blame lies in the carrier. Samsung has built GB updates for all these phones. Some official for phones outside the US, some leaks. Either way Samsung has put in the work.
Have a Captivate, and want gingerbread? Blame AT&T for not having an "official" update, then blame yourself for not following the countless guides on xda.
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Even unbranded versions are altered I can assure you this from building the LG source code. It is completely different than any of the carrier releases. LG more than likely has already released the GB update... just to the carriers. LG has done their part, its the carriers we are waiting on. LG isn't going to tell you the ins and outs of the contracts they are bound to and when you email them there is probably hundreds of people that answer those questions. They are probably told not to give too much info so they make a guess based on what info the carrier has given them. Att makes an estimate as to when it will be done but it isn't a set in stone date and LG can't give you more info than what they have. If the carriers are going to have the GB update out soon then they HAVE to have the update from LG already otherwise how can they be testing it? LG is probably under contract to NOT release any source code until all carriers release their versions. The carriers have manufacturers by the balls, they either do what they say or find someone else to sell their product. This is all because of business and the horrible american business practice. Notice how limited our phones are compared to other countries... they already have the 3D converter because their carriers released it before america did. Its not LG holding things from us... now don't be quoting me this is just my speculation based on what I have learned in my years of working in IT. You would be amazed at how much a contract with a company can screw everything up. Blame ATT not LG... LG more than likely came out with the update exactly as promised, now it is up to the carriers to give us that update, once that is done LG can legaly release the source to the public.

quarlow said:
"Phones of last year"
Have a Captivate, and want gingerbread? blame yourself for not following the countless guides on xda.
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First of all the EVO 4G, Motorola Droid 2 and the Droid X were all flagship phones of last year that have been officially updated to 2.3.x. You see two companies not listed out of these devices......yeah, the Korean companies Samsung & LG.
As for rooting, not everyone's wants to root so you can't blame users for not rooting.

All Android devices need continued os and bug fix updates

http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them

Why are we discussing/petitioning something that we don't know? Has it been set in stone that manufacturers will not support us anymore or is this all stemming from paranoia?

Because it is the trend. And the atrix 2 has been released already. All the manufactures with the exception of sammy have been doing this more and more lately abandoning. Devices. And pumping out new ones. At a very fast pace

So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.

Kailkti said:
So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.
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Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.

Papi4baby said:
Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.
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No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.

I think for every $10 a phone costs over $50 on launch day (on contract) is how many months it should be updated for. So a $300 phone should be kept updated for 25 months. So this would either keep phone prices lower or keep them updated.

Facebook is a poor way of getting the attention of corporations. You want them to change? Buy a nexus phone. Money talks.

Kailkti said:
No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.
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I think ICS only has support for Armv7 currently, so phones with those SoCs will get updated. However, phones using custom UIs will experience a longer waiting time, maybe around early Q1 of 2012. HTC has released like 1000 phones in the last few months and I doubt most will get ICS soon, not sure if Moto will bother at all. But it might be better to wait and actually see what goes down, like you said.

Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.

Handsome Rob said:
Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.
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HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.

Papi4baby said:
HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.
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As I understand it, you lose all ROM related warranty, so for instance if your screen fails then you're still covered.

Motorola unlocking bootloaders ??
you should check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316722

I had a motorola xt720.... not the best phone..but was ok. Motorola decided to stop supporting it within 4 months of launch or something stupid like that. No new updates no nothing. And still insisted on the bootloader staying locked so the dev's found it alot harder to do their job for them.
I will never ever buy a motorola product again.
The market is fairly competitive ... don't buy from companies that pull this crap

Droid 4 in 2.5 weeks? Are you ******* kidding me?

http://www.zimbio.com/New+Mobile+Ph...Verizon+Leaks+Support+Motorola+Droid+4+Launch

No wonder Hashcode is like the ONLY Dev working on CM7 for this phone. I can't believe they'd release the D4 6 months after the D3. Such BS.

.... That is why a Verizon stuff sell me his droid 3 last week ......

I purchased the Droid3 on the day it was released in July and I'm furious. I'm sure people who purchased it a month ago are going ballistic now that they are out of the return window. Can't believe this is being released in two weeks. I'm about 90% ready to pay the ETF and switch to Straight Talk and get out of contracts for good. I can get practically any phone available US or imported and use it on ST.
I know the service probably pales in comparison to Verizons but at $80/month for 24 months, there should be more of a protection in future-proofing phones. Checked on Verizon for trade-in value, $80...

Looks like a razor with a keyboard, kinda ugly imho, i can't see this coming out too soon.
Anyways locked bootloader which will take even more months to be come usable, same specs as the droid 3 with maybe 1gb of ram and a 1.2 cpu, not worth an upgrade at all.
-smc

I find it amusing that people are surprised by this. As soon as the Droid 3 came out I knew it would be followed by a 4g version not long after. I also don't understand why people are upset about it. Your phone doesn't automatically become worse when this phone launches. And anyone who thought the Droid 3 was going to get good dev support was out of their minds. We're super lucky to even have hash. Either way I can't wait to get a Galaxy Nexus. Totally done with Motocrap. 32gb card still doesn't work for music.

People, it's Motorola. Like any other corporation, they want some way to get more money, and if they need to release the first 4G/LTE slider phone, then they want to do it as fast as they can..
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i4mt3hwin said:
I find it amusing that people are surprised by this. As soon as the Droid 3 came out I knew it would be followed by a 4g version not long after. I also don't understand why people are upset about it. Your phone doesn't automatically become worse when this phone launches. And anyone who thought the Droid 3 was going to get good dev support was out of their minds. We're super lucky to even have hash. Either way I can't wait to get a Galaxy Nexus. Totally done with Motocrap. 32gb card still doesn't work for music.
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I'm in the same boat. I've had a DX and now a D3. Screw Moto, I'm going to break the keyboard mapping file, take this piece back as my 2nd return, pull the same shenanigans for a 3rd return, and then flip $#!+ about this phone being a turd and get a GNex. I want pure Android from it's creator, not this MotoBull.

I knew this would happen.. I was pissed that much better phones were released within a week after this phone was released... Personal preference is now key to buying phones these days. Technology is only advancing FASTER meaning something twice as good will be released within weeks of what the best is now. 2 years ago we had a 550mhz D1, year later the speed and ram doubles with the D2, not quite a year passes and now dual core is standard. Less than 6 months and quadcore phones will make the D4 comparable to owning a D1. All I have to really say is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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and if they need to release the first 4G/LTE slider phone, then they want to do it as fast as they can..
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They already did, same release date as our XT862, its called the Motorola XT860 4G, AKA Canadian Bell Droid 3...
http://developer.motorola.com/products/xt860-4g/

So what it's ugly and battary not portable. They must keep supporting the droid 3 with updates though

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Wasnt this supposedly the leaked image of the razor, like 2 months ago????? lol

Luckily we still have Hash;who is btw doing an awesome job. Another thing we have in our favor is that the D3 & Bionic are so similar, so hopefully we can piggyback alot of ROM's, Mods, & Themes.

Oh men. I buy Droid 3, four days ago...

Of all the people with a D3 pissed that the D4 is being released....do you even have 4G service where you live? I don't so I could give a **** less.
*I love my Droid3..f'off Samsung Captivate*

Are you really care?
I bought D3 because it's a global phone. But the D4 is NOT.
It's CDMA and 4G only.

arthurcorell said:
Are you really care?
I bought D3 because it's a global phone. But the D4 is NOT.
It's CDMA and 4G only.
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Specs I saw is that the D4 is the first LTE Global Phone
(I'm too new to post links)
Zoom in to the specs, QuadBand GSM

tila11 said:
Oh men. I buy Droid 3, four days ago...
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Assuming you bought from VZW, you have a 30 return period. You're in luck.

I've also read about this yesterday, it appears that the gsm and removable back had been removed as well. Guess tone to move to a bionic
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I wont have 4G service where I am for a while, so having a 4G radio is more of a hassle at the moment. I refuse to buy a phone with a non-removable battery, its one of the reasons I stay away from the iPhone. The Droid 4 looks like it still has Gingerbread on it. I'm not so sure what people are mad over.

i just GOT my Droid 3, WTF motorola

New LG Flagship

So... I was on the Negri Electronics site about to buy this beast of a phone and I think, maybe I'll look at one more review. So I pull up the verge and I see this:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/9/3146268/lg-subsidiaries-quad-core-smartphone
So they are planning on releasing a new quad-core 10+ megapixel phone in September?... Bgr reported essentially the same thing. Thats only two months away! I hate to be a spoiler of sorts but this is crazy. I can't believe that weeks after they finally release their new flagship they drop this bomb on us. I'm glad I didn't buy it but at the same time it makes me kind of sad because I really wanted to love an lg phone again. Guess I'll have to wait until September
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So... I was on the Negri Electronics site about to buy this beast of a phone and I think, maybe I'll look at one more review. So I pull up the verge and I see this:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/9/3146268/lg-subsidiaries-quad-core-smartphone
So they are planning on releasing a new quad-core 10+ megapixel phone in September?... Bgr reported essentially the same thing. Thats only two months away! I hate to be a spoiler of sorts but this is crazy. I can't believe that weeks after they finally release their new flagship they drop this bomb on us. I'm glad I didn't buy it but at the same time it makes me kind of sad because I really wanted to love an lg phone again. Guess I'll have to wait until September
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It is RUMORED to be announced in September. When do you think you'll be able to buy it given that the Optimus 4X HD is not even released in more than half of the world?

colts187 said:
So... I was on the Negri Electronics site about to buy this beast of a phone and I think, maybe I'll look at one more review. So I pull up the verge and I see this:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/9/3146268/lg-subsidiaries-quad-core-smartphone
So they are planning on releasing a new quad-core 10+ megapixel phone in September?... Bgr reported essentially the same thing. Thats only two months away! I hate to be a spoiler of sorts but this is crazy. I can't believe that weeks after they finally release their new flagship they drop this bomb on us. I'm glad I didn't buy it but at the same time it makes me kind of sad because I really wanted to love an lg phone again. Guess I'll have to wait until September
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HEY...that's too cool, honestly I thought I'd never see this kind of 'argumentation' again...but here we are. During the 80's we had this running gag 'Don't buy today, tomorrow it's twice the power for half the money!'
I really advice u to wait. Not until September because I heard a rumor that in December...or perhaps January... Stay tuned!

Quad core Krait S4 Sounds nice but i'll stick to the 4x for now. This won't make it into store till December at least IMHO.

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HEY...that's too cool, honestly I thought I'd never see this kind of 'argumentation' again...but here we are. During the 80's we had this running gag 'Don't buy today, tomorrow it's twice the power for half the money!'
I really advice u to wait. Not until September because I heard a rumor that in December...or perhaps January... Stay tuned!
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Totally agree.

zerooonekenobi said:
Quad core Krait S4 Sounds nice but i'll stick to the 4x for now. This won't make it into store till December at least IMHO.
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Yes this is a great phone for all matters. 4g is nice but only a concern if your carrier provides it. Only one here in Australia does, and they would not be my first choice of carrier based on previous experience.
On another note: How is LG in regards to rooting and and flashing custom roms? Coming from an older Galaxy S and first generation tab, I would ask for a comparison in regards torooting and flashing Samsung devices. I know how valuable good dev support is.

charmthief88 said:
Yes this is a great phone for all matters. 4g is nice but only a concern if your carrier provides it. Only one here in Australia does, and they would not be my first choice of carrier based on previous experience.
On another note: How is LG in regards to rooting and and flashing custom roms? Coming from an older Galaxy S and first generation tab, I would ask for a comparison in regards torooting and flashing Samsung devices. I know how valuable good dev support is.
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Easier than Samsung but do not expect development by lg at all. So that's the advice and ask all the lg owners, I got 6 different lg phones non of them lg update released yet, custom roms on every one. Of them or I'll still be in 2 with 1.6, or 2.2 in the others it sucks but is easier than Samsung for sure no counters or any other weird stuff
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LG already released an Update for the 4x, it was 2 weeks after i bought this phone.
And they are working on the next Update (V10c).
So i think LG want to make things better, and so far they do!