G2X / LG Optimus 2 - LG Optimus 2x

http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-android-smartphone-hands-on/#
I can't wait for this phone I had my doubts until they announced the fact that its going to be vanilla android. None that mask crap to bog down the phone. This will make it easier to root and develope for. Also LG should be able to release timley Android updates such as 2.3 and 2.4.

wondercoolguy said:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-android-smartphone-hands-on/#
I can't wait for this phone I had my doubts until they announced the fact that its going to be vanilla android. None that mask crap to bog down the phone. This will make it easier to root and develope for. Also LG should be able to release timley Android updates such as 2.3 and 2.4.
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2.3 is almost finished, lg is on the process of testing it on the device already. I heard it somewhere. So cheers!

yep I've read that as well I can not wait for the phone to come out. Now ppl need to buy it so Cyanogen will adopt it.

Looking at the bands this phone will run on if I'm not mistaking it looks like it will work on both T-Mobile and AT&T's 3G service. Can anyone either confirm or deny this. Wouldn't that be great, not having to worry about the phone turning nto a paper weight after the buy out.

vinnyjr said:
Looking at the bands this phone will run on if I'm not mistaking it looks like it will work on both T-Mobile and AT&T's 3G service. Can anyone either confirm or deny this. Wouldn't that be great, not having to worry about the phone turning nto a paper weight after the buy out.
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Yeah ive noticed on a few Android websites and blogs that it does support both, havnt seen any official confimation though, that would be nice.

That would be great but I'm not giving attwireless any of my money. Let's just cross our fingers and hope the FCC shoots it down.

Specs and thoughts on new tmobiles phones
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...ture-proofing-their-new-phones-to-run-on-att/

Looks like it have a new model number
http://www.bgr.com/nggallery/page-320/album-all/gallery-130/image/1747/
Hope we can still use the same roms

dieseldk said:
Looks like it have a new model number
http://www.bgr.com/nggallery/page-320/album-all/gallery-130/image/1747/
Hope we can still use the same roms
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Me too! then the developer community will be greater

Do you think the G2x will ship with an unlockable bootloader (like the Nexus phones)? If I can flash ROMs and have full control of my phone, this will be my next device.

I'm thinking that anything "G" branded will be embraced by develpoer community.....Please cyanogen

Here's a great initial review by MobileTechReview of T-Mobile LG G2X. I can't wait to get my hands on it http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=40455

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Who else is ditching their Incredible for this phone:)

I already know this phone was leaked a while back...but here's new pics...I'm amazed aside from the coloring...but thatll probably change...cuz we all know what the Incredible looked like before it was released.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/04/htcs-dual-mode-cdma-gsm-android-slider-hits-the-fcc-decked-out/
Can't imagine getting a phone now days with a physical keyboard.
krelvinaz said:
Can't imagine getting a phone now days with a physical keyboard.
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The main reason i want the physical keyboard is for gaming..i hate using an on screen controller for the Snes Emulators...and playing replica island sucks on the incredible as well...but for texting, i have mixed feelings about a physical keyboard, because its nice and i used to be a beast at texting when i had the Lg V...but for the past 3 years i have been using virtual qwerty keypads and while i still have a bit of trouble with them, its easier for me to use them than physical ones...and besides the stuff about the keyboard...this phone will probably come pre loaded with Gingerbread and have a amazing processor...i like the Snapdraggon...but the GPU sucks and also i tried to load 720p movies onto my phone and it couldnt process them...Also im guessing this screen will have a higher resolution...sorry for the long post, lol...just wanted to explain myself a bit
I'm waiting for this:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/27/evo-ish-htc-device-verizon/
Berzerker7 said:
I'm waiting for this:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/27/evo-ish-htc-device-verizon/
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But it has the same insides as the Incredible...and the screen is way too big...4in is the sweet spot for me
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I really don't see the need for another phone until the LTE phones come out. As a matter of fact, I may not switch until an LTE version of the incredible is released.
I like the phone the OP posted minus the keyboard.
I wish verizon had a phone like the incredible (maybe a bit bigger) but that was dual-mode capable since I travel overseas a lot and they dont have many CDMA networks over there.
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I really don't see the need for another phone until the LTE phones come out. As a matter of fact, I may not switch until an LTE version of the incredible is released.
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QFT/Amen. Agreed.
-1 here. Not getting any phones until LTE enabled devices are released.
Not me, I'm waiting for the Incredible HD. Basically a Verizon version of the EVO.
This phone is definitely fine for now.. like stated when LTE is availabnle I'm hoping for an Incredible 2!
I won't be getting a new phone for the next two years
Hatt said:
I won't be getting a new phone for the next two years
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Well luckily my parents are eligible for upgrades next year and i doubt either them is going to want to use it....so im going to sell my Incredible and use one of their upgrades
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I'm waiting for this:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/27/evo-ish-htc-device-verizon/
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same here!!!!!! keyboard suck it brings more problems . more ways to brake
Berzerker7 said:
I'm waiting for this:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/27/evo-ish-htc-device-verizon/
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Yeah, this is the one I want as well, I can't wait and I would assume this one is coming before Christmas, I hope it really does
LTE for me...
jc
Berzerker7 said:
I'm waiting for this:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/27/evo-ish-htc-device-verizon/
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Yeah man! Thats the beast I'm holding my upgrade for!
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This phone is definitely fine for now.. like stated when LTE is availabnle I'm hoping for an Incredible 2!
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agree totally
Probably will be LTE, testing now.
Hey guys, I would be willing to bet that the mystery device with the 4.3 screen will be LTE. The reason I say this is because we (VZW) are testing and building LTE in the Ohio market where I am working now. I am not sure when the scheduled punlic release is because that is not my end of things, but the vast majority of sites have been converted from T1s to EBH (Ethernet Backhaul), had the antennas installed for LTE (700MHZ), and many have the LTE BTS product powered up and on air now. The testing is with a USB device now but I see no reason for them to deploy a shiney new phone months from now that would not have LTE in it. The VZW plan is to phase out CDMA voice, much like analog was over time, thus freeing up XCEM slots in the BTSs for DOM-A cards and adding more EVDO carriers (what I am doing as I am typeing this post). Pre-15xx NBSS release on the Nortel platform you could only have DOMs in slots 3,8, and 10, but now all are ok. The end goal is IP based voice on EVDO-A and data on LTE. Just my opinion from the network side.
madman34 said:
Hey guys, I would be willing to bet that the mystery device with the 4.3 screen will be LTE. The reason I say this is because we (VZW) are testing and building LTE in the Ohio market where I am working now. I am not sure when the scheduled punlic release is because that is not my end of things, but the vast majority of sites have been converted from T1s to EBH (Ethernet Backhaul), had the antennas installed for LTE (700MHZ), and many have the LTE BTS product powered up and on air now. The testing is with a USB device now but I see no reason for them to deploy a shiney new phone months from now that would not have LTE in it. The VZW plan is to phase out CDMA voice, much like analog was over time, thus freeing up XCEM slots in the BTSs for DOM-A cards and adding more EVDO carriers (what I am doing as I am typeing this post). Pre-15xx NBSS release on the Nortel platform you could only have DOMs in slots 3,8, and 10, but now all are ok. The end goal is IP based voice on EVDO-A and data on LTE. Just my opinion from the network side.
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The first 30 markets to get LTE will the the already released list of "NFL Cities" before the year's end. Verizon also stated the only devices they will release at first in LTE are mobile network cards. the first LTE phone won't be released til Q1 2011. So neither of these phones will be LTE ready.
The phone with the qwerty keyboard will NOT have gingerbread.
It's the HTC 'Merge', please don't call it the 'Incredible HD'. That just makes it sound stupid. It's not even anything like the Incredible. The internals are supposed to be completely different.
And if anyone is seriously gonna ditch a phone they just got 4 months ago for a phone that STILL doesn't have LTE, at the LOW price of $500, you're only gonna punch yourself in the face when the first LTE devices do get released months later. and then probably throw another $5-600 in the trash to get it.

T-Mobile getting the 2X as the G2x

ABOUT TIME TMO!! I cant wait for this. I definitely would pay top dollar for this phone.
http://androidapproved.com/item/tmobile-getting-the-lg-optimus-2x-as-the-tmobile-g2x/
2X.
Frankly, G2x should blow Atrix out of the space.
I think it does!! hopefully they remove lg's UI and keep it stock!! either way, its still better than motoblur!!
felix.akinyemi said:
I think it does!! hopefully they remove lg's UI and keep it stock!! either way, its still better than motoblur!!
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What is the difference to the normal 2X ????
FILLY86 said:
What is the difference to the normal 2X ????
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Well from what I heard this version will have 4G.
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What is the difference to the normal 2X ????
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Probably just HSPA+ (4G) and maybe vanilla android and hopefully gingerbread!!
Nice
A lot of people are speculating that T-Mobile changed the name to G2X to match the other "G" series phones. The same people have inferred that this means te phone will be stock Android. Hopefully this is the case! I will definitely pick it up.
Currently using the Nexus One and MyTouch 4G, I would jump on this new phone in a heart beat. I hope the LG doesn't have that cheap plastic feel, I enjoy a quality built device, good hardware goes a very long way in the way I choose my phones. The Nexus One to date has the best feeling in your hands, I still use it as my daily phone. HTC builds quality phones, I have sent my N1 back to HTC several times for the screen issue, they fixed it, changed the mother board and many other parts. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase another device from HTC.
now the question is when is the release date?
I heard later this month. I hope so, I am trading out my Nexus S to get the cash together and will be using an iPhone 4 till its released. :-( I plan on getting it on day one.
how does it take to get the unlock code from the website services?
can anyone give me an estimated time for that?
guyz i ll be in us between 12-18 march, hope it ll be released and get the code in very soon, dont want to buy an atrix
News form AndroidAndMe:
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...-revive-the-g-series-with-lgs-g2x-optimus-2x/
Awesome that TMo is picking up O2X as their next G-series device.
Hope it will be launched with stock Android - porting that ROM to European device will be a piece of cake!
O2X + stock Gingerbread = total win
Some Tmobile reps over at Tmonews have posted that the LG reps have come to their stores to demo the phone and that is stock android, has 4G and it is fast! Also the release date is supposedly April 20th alongside the G-slate. Heh can't wait to get this.
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Some Tmobile reps over at Tmonews have posted that the LG reps have come to their stores to demo the phone and that is stock android, has 4G and it is fast! Also the release date is supposedly April 20th alongside the G-slate. Heh can't wait to get this.
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Awesome! You American people are lucky
I made summary of current informations about TMo G2X, visit my blog if you wish to read it
http://mobileboard.blogspot.com/2011/03/more-informations-about-tmobile-g2x.html
I spoke to a Tmo rep yesterday...and probably the first guy who was totally knowledgeable about HD2 and its capabilities and such. I've asked several reps about the G2x and none of them seem to be even remotely aware. But after talkin for a while with this guy, I asked him about the G2x...and he said since I know this much, there's no harm confirming the arrival of the G2x...he said the launch shud be with 3-4 weeks after the launch at UK. More than likely, the speculated April 20th seems plausible. Can't wait!!
Is 4g confirmed? Would really suck if this phone had everything but 4g speeds

All Android devices need continued os and bug fix updates

http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them
Why are we discussing/petitioning something that we don't know? Has it been set in stone that manufacturers will not support us anymore or is this all stemming from paranoia?
Because it is the trend. And the atrix 2 has been released already. All the manufactures with the exception of sammy have been doing this more and more lately abandoning. Devices. And pumping out new ones. At a very fast pace
So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.
Kailkti said:
So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.
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Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.
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Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.
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No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.
I think for every $10 a phone costs over $50 on launch day (on contract) is how many months it should be updated for. So a $300 phone should be kept updated for 25 months. So this would either keep phone prices lower or keep them updated.
Facebook is a poor way of getting the attention of corporations. You want them to change? Buy a nexus phone. Money talks.
Kailkti said:
No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.
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I think ICS only has support for Armv7 currently, so phones with those SoCs will get updated. However, phones using custom UIs will experience a longer waiting time, maybe around early Q1 of 2012. HTC has released like 1000 phones in the last few months and I doubt most will get ICS soon, not sure if Moto will bother at all. But it might be better to wait and actually see what goes down, like you said.
Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.
Handsome Rob said:
Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.
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HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.
Papi4baby said:
HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.
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As I understand it, you lose all ROM related warranty, so for instance if your screen fails then you're still covered.
Motorola unlocking bootloaders ??
you should check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316722
I had a motorola xt720.... not the best phone..but was ok. Motorola decided to stop supporting it within 4 months of launch or something stupid like that. No new updates no nothing. And still insisted on the bootloader staying locked so the dev's found it alot harder to do their job for them.
I will never ever buy a motorola product again.
The market is fairly competitive ... don't buy from companies that pull this crap

No unlock coming from HTC

Still trying to get then to publicly announce this, but my contact within HTC (my business buys hundreds of devices a year) says its all AT&T. He said maybe someday, but chance it'll happen within 3 months is zero. Take it for what you will.
gtkansan said:
Still trying to get then to publicly announce this, but my contact within HTC (my business buys hundreds of devices a year) says its all AT&T. He said maybe someday, but chance it'll happen within 3 months is zero. Take it for what you will.
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Who is your contact? Can he leak the info we need for an unlock?
He doesn't have the needed codes. Or even the key signer. I asked. Said to say he wished he could help. Been working with me for 4 years, I believe him
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He doesn't have the needed codes. Or even the key signer. I asked. Said to say he wished he could help. Been working with me for 4 years, I believe him
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He doesnt know anyone that can help?
I got the direct line to some vp's. Calling in a bit to complain directly.
This was predictable. AT&T are a bunch of a$$es and HTC are a bunch of idiots to let AT&T do this to them.
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This was predictable. AT&T are a bunch of a$$es and HTC are a bunch of idiots to let AT&T do this to them.
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Well, guess that solved my issue. Exchanging for a white Skyrocket now.
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slapshot30 said:
This was predictable. AT&T are a bunch of a$$es and HTC are a bunch of idiots to let AT&T do this to them.
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I've been hypothesizing that it was moreso AT&T's fault, as compared with HTC's, as they've been relatively responsive about getting their other carrier bootloader unlocks out relatively promptly.
AT&T's had it against Android from day 1, choosing not to carry high-end devices, then lagging behind on updates on high-end devices, then not letting us sideload apps, and now this. It really wouldn't surprise me that AT&T is the primary culprit.
Look, the international Raider and the Bell/Rogers variants all got their dues very quickly; HTC is clearly not holding back on their part in terms of getting these devices unlocked. Since our hardware is literally identical to the Rogers one (radio bands and all), I don't see why there's any reason to keep ours locked while Rogers doesn't have this issue. There's only one variable here, and it's clearly the carrier.
Wasn't Rogers part of an ATT venture at one point? They're worthy of commendation that they didn't inherit these ridiculous business practices.
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I've been hypothesizing that it was moreso AT&T's fault, as compared with HTC's, as they've been relatively responsive about getting their other carrier bootloader unlocks out relatively promptly.
AT&T's had it against Android from day 1, choosing not to carry high-end devices, then lagging behind on updates on high-end devices, then not letting us sideload apps, and now this. It really wouldn't surprise me that AT&T is the primary culprit.
Look, the international Raider and the Bell/Rogers variants all got their dues very quickly; HTC is clearly not holding back on their part in terms of getting these devices unlocked. Since our hardware is literally identical to the Rogers one (radio bands and all), I don't see why there's any reason to keep ours locked while Rogers doesn't have this issue. There's only one variable here, and it's clearly the carrier.
Wasn't Rogers part of an ATT venture at one point? They're worthy of commendation that they didn't inherit these ridiculous business practices.
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I think that would be Bell, but they are still really good to Android. Anyways, only Samsung from now on, since Samsung has the balls to tell them off.
Sent from HTC Vivid!
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Well, guess that solved my issue. Exchanging for a white Skyrocket now.
Sent from HTC Vivid!
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Really?
you waited until after EvilDevnull decides to help before you bail?
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Really?
you waited until after EvilDevnull decides to help before you bail?
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Uh Evil has been 'on the verge' of unlock for the 3D and Rezound for weeks and weeks that I have been following. Can never tell up from down, cant wait on a chance in case it never comes.
Truthfully all things considered you can't say it will Never happen because someone some where will come with a way to unlock the device. Whether it winds up being HTC themselves that leak something just to get sales up or some dev doing it there will be an unlock method sooner or later, just a matter of time and patience. Have yet to see any android device that exists that has not been able to be rooted and get the Bootloader unlocked.
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Really?
you waited until after EvilDevnull decides to help before you bail?
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I tweeted him long before people found out. He said he's going to do a few devices after the Rezound, then us. Sure, we can probably do something with the Rezound, but I'm not used to HTC devices anyways, kind of a brand thing.
Anyways, enjoy your Vivid, I know I will until my Skyrocket gets here.
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AT&T's had it against Android from day 1, choosing not to carry high-end devices, then lagging behind on updates on high-end devices, then not letting us sideload apps, and now this. It really wouldn't surprise me that AT&T is the primary culprit.
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Yup, every time I'm in an Att store all they talk about is the iphone and apple.
Even back when the HD2 came out and had a processor twice the speed of the the iphone at that time they were still touting it's superiority.
I was a bit surprised to see everyone in the att store when I went in to pick up my vivid with one. Apparently the store in my area were switching their employee phones from windows phones to Android phones and they were all going nuts and excited about the Vivid.
Anyways, I knew it was att that was preventing the unlocking, they have pretty much always been sticklers about things like this especially if it can insure their bloatware staying on our phones.
Sounds like we should keep up the pressure.
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Yup, every time I'm in an Att store all they talk about is the iphone and apple.
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Isn't that the truth. When I told them I was considering the 4s or an Android phone they said 99% of the people who were using Apple and went to android end up bringing the phone back and switching to the 4s.
I couldn't believe how much bashing they gave to android. If I ever hear one of them saying anything again I am going to politely explain: "Does the iPhone come with any AT&T bloatware installed? No? Does every Android device? Yes. Remove your **** apps and people will like android more and the phones will run better."
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Nowadays you can uninstall the bloatware AND sideload apps.
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Uh, what?
The former, not without aftermarket tweaks. The latter, yes.
Don't try to praise AT&T here, it's not going to fly. They still are monumentally iBiased.
EDIT: I just checked Evil's site on this. Regardless of his accomplishments, I don't think I'd ever consider donating to him. He carries himself like a total <insert expletive here> as the most important developer in the world. Reading the thread was painful.
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Uh, what?
The former, not without aftermarket tweaks. The latter, yes.
Don't try to praise AT&T here, it's not going to fly. They still are monumentally iBiased.
EDIT: I just checked Evil's site on this. Regardless of his accomplishments, I don't think I'd ever consider donating to him. He carries himself like a total <insert expletive here> as the most important developer in the world. Reading the thread was painful.
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If he is the guy who gets s-off for the vivid.... He IS the most important developer in the world as far as I am concerned
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[Q] Droid 4 in Canada (Rogers?)

I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
As of right now, no.
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As of right now, no.
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
demungtoe said:
Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Currently GSM support is disabled in the firmware and AFAIK it will stay that way until Verizon releases an update to enable it.
Was a bit disappointing they do not have the global services available on the Droid 4. If your looking for a device with keyboard right now you may be able to pick up a used Droid 2 Global. I know those work up there as I had one when I was in Canada last year.
All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
The SIM Unlock codes are usually given by the carrier to their paid customers. Verizon will give them out if you have had an account in good standing for 6 months if I recall right.
As for sites to get the unlock codes, I cannot make any recommendations due to I have never paid for them. I have however seen on sites like deals extreme unlocker SIMs that go between the phone and the SIM but have no idea if or how well those work.
Also if you buy a used device you may be able to get one that has been SIM unlocked already. The SIM unlock is a one time task, even if the phone gets wiped or reset it will remain SIM unlocked.
I still keep my G1 as a spare. My next step from that was a TouchPro2 - it comes with WindowsMobile, but I'm running XDAndroid on it. It has an excellent keyboard. I think I still like the TP2 keyboard better than my D4's keyboard.
But, the TP2 has the exact same processor as the G1, and only a tiny bit more RAM. It has a much higher screen rez (800x480) but no faster hardware, so it is noticeably slow.
If I were you I'd look at picking up a used Droid3. I was considering the D3 as my next phone from the TP2, but waited instead for the D4 to come out. As it is, I'm finding that Verizon's 4G service is cutting out all the time on me, so it's still better as a 3G phone. And I'm heading off to Europe in a couple weeks, and will have to bring my G1 or my TP2 on the trip anyway.
Curses to Qualcomm, Motorola, and Verizon. Verizon for their stupid policies and selling a phone with full-featured hardware and intentionally crippled software. Motorola for their locked firmware that prevents end-users, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the damn hardware, from installing software on it as they see fit. Qualcomm for preventing end-users (again, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the hardware) from even seeing the specifications so that they can provide their own software.
demungtoe said:
All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
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Bell sells the Motorola XT860, I'm currently using it unlocked on Rogers without a hitch. The only issue, I'm not sure if this phone will get official ICS support... The devs are hacking away at getting all of the cool ICS features up and running though
You can probably find an XT860 on Kijiji, Craigslist or even eBay for a lot cheaper than the full Bell price... heck they were giving them away on 3 year contracts during xmas. You might want to check out the Droid3 forums in the meantime to get some more info on XT860
Fwiw, i'm in Ireland now and popped an Irish SIM into the phone. Interestingly enough, you can swap the SIM while the phone is powered on, in Airplane mode. It still didn't work, but the phone didn't complain about any SIM lock. But when I rebooted the phone, it complained then.
There are properties in /system/build.prop for enabling world-mode. I turned these on, but looking at the radio logcat, it seems that our current libril-xxx.so just doesn't support any GSM commands.
The interesting thing is that the Motorola Atrix has the same Qualcomm MDM6600 radio modem as this phone. I'm going to look for an Atrix ROM and see if I can kang some libril files from there to see if I can get any further. (Btw, I wrote the multimode RIL for the XDAndroid ROM; this sort of investigation is my specialty...)
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I hope they hurry with this. I want this phone now. Its ridiculous that users outside USA cannot use this phone.
Bump, any development?
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Bump, any development?
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
Dave Lister said:
Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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And it's still not stable from what I've read...
This phone is too early to jump into for me. I'll stick to my 4G Slide for now and check back on this device in a few months. Maybe development will pick up by then and they'll have the GSM thing sorted out
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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danifunker said:
The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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OK guys this is perfect timing.. and i dont have much support for th eextra tweaking issues we have in Canada, with some of these phones and roms..
Anyhow. Heres my story.. You will like the ending!!
Ive owned a Droid 3 (XT860-BELLMOBILITY) for over a year now.. I came from the original Milestone 1 from Telus Mobililty.
4 weeks ago I had my Droid 3 stolen from me in the laundry room of my condo.. Well it was more.. forgotten by me (i think it was lost there.. for sure!!) and some lucky sole got their hands on it.. I can now use google and its cached pages of kijiji to see that it wass posted the day of.. lol ive got the kid selling other goods so its only a matter of time before i force karma upon him
I took a risk, but being desperate QWERTYDROID junkies like we are, and bought an American Verizon Droid 3 (XT862)
--Keep in mind that i knew nothing about unlocking, rooting, restoring, and doing the whole ROM/Bootstrap/TWRP/SAFEBOOT etc.. Im 35, been into pc's since i was 15, but never into MAC or LINUX.
At this point ive bricked these phones and the next one i speak about dozens of times, while attempting to do the practice makes perfect sort of journey to see what works, what doesnt, what sometimes does, etc.. Its always ended up being able to use the original stock rom's with no problems. (sometimes bloatwear was anoying) but not much support for our radios and etc.
So i had a bit of trouble getting this verizon droid 3 up and running as verizon themselves gives us extra work by trying to secure the load up of the activation process. Either way.. it worked, and still does, and ive gotten a few roms working on it like all SteelDroid, CM10.1, MiniMoto, and possibly a couple others. but these were the ones that can and will work, with a bit of trial and error.
shoot gotta run for a few minutes. so i wanna post this so i dont lose it all.
PART 2 of this story to follow within an hour!! But ill give you a bit of a spoiler.
I am using a Droid 4 now.. as a poster said justr before me, he had many issues to get past, well so did I, but them came the huge hurdles to get over also..
Still have my droid 3 xt862 that was wanting to sell. though,, im still not for certain ready to part with it..
be back shortly sorry about this..
next part in next post
What happened????
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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As far as I'm aware, there shouldn't be any problem getting this to run on a GSM network outside the United States. If the phone is on ICS or JB the GSM is unlocked already. If you use any of the ROM's, there's a thread in the "Droid 4 Android Development" called "Enable GSM on any ROM Patch" which should fully enable it.
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demungtoe said:
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
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I have a Droid4, updated with android 4.1, and I can confirm you that it works with Rogers

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