Such a cool Phone but why has it only 512 RAM? My next phone schould last for ~3 years and i doubt that 512MB ram will be enough
What are your opinions on this? Are 512MB enough today or should i look after another Phone with 1GB RAM??
On which Apps could 512 MB RAM have a negatively impact?
Greetz und Thanks
My Question about the RAM Issue:
- Can Swapper2 be used ?
- Can u use Swapper2 on many Applications (does it make sense)?
Thanks for your help!
512MB is enough..
Yeah i think it too, that first it will be enough.
But i'm not buying a new Mobile Phone every year. And i don't believe if it it's enough in 1 or 2 years. So it would be great it swapper works or sth like this.
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How much RAM do i effectively got. Cause i read that u have 512 MB minus 128 MB for the GPU minus 200 for the OS.
So there is perhaps 200 free for the apps?
Is this right ?
Ram in 2X:
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Root it, remove a few of the preinstalled apps or exchange them against some with lower memory usage or use a custom rom and you will even have more ram available. I think 512 MB will be enough...
You should also be able to lower the ram reserved for the gpu. It should be possible to free up to 100mb if you dont play many games otherwise up to 64mb.
According to some reviews it seems that the Optimus 2X reserves 128MB for the GPU. This would mean you only get a total of 512 - 128 = 384MB of RAM for Program Memory.
That's at least one thing HTC did well on their latest devices. Devices like the Incredible S and the Desire S ship with 768MB of RAM.
I think the RAM in the 2X is enough to work with the device but it sure ain't a lot.
Bill Gaits Believed that 640K RAM will be enough few years ago
But Yes so far (i am using android for 2 years now) it proved - 512MB are enough!
And if there only 2-3 devices with bigger RAM - so developers will stick with 512 for a while.
my opinion is that 512 mb is good for this time. i have a galaxy s with a custom Rom and i have 339 mb of ram and the device.work fine.
i see that i will use approx 20 mb of extra ram and(galaxy vs LG) and also you have a dual core.processor that optimize some operation.
well... i think that for this moment and for approx 1 year 512mb of ram will be a good choose!
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i just got the o2x yesterday. 1,5 gb og the 8gb are dedicated to android, so no worries, you can install all the apps you want
planetj said:
i just got the o2x yesterday. 1,5 gb og the 8gb are dedicated to android, so no worries, you can install all the apps you want
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That's not a question...
Got a o2x and can confirm you got 381mb of free ram for apps... that makes 128mb dedicated for gpu. Got around 110 mb free at the moment, and I have a lot of Apps running. When I get custom rom, some of the ram will be cleared, when removing unnecessary apps. I got adw launcher running on top of stock ui
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First, I won't buy it soon. Just looking for one to have ideia about what notebook to choose. So, being launched until end of 2013 isn't problem for me.
So, I want:
-Processor: Intel Core i5 or i7 (Ivy Bridge, if possible).
RAM: 6 to 8 Gb
HD: + or - 500 Gb, or a SSD with a big capacity.
Screen: 14 to 16 inches, maybe FullHD.
Keyboard: Not needed, but numeric keyboard is a good. A must is retro-iluminated keyboard. Maybe controls for music (Play/Pause, Backward (forgot the word!!!), Next and volume control.
Graphics Card: No need for the best, only something that can play games quite nice, as playing won't be the main use.
Weight: The less, the better.
Size: The thinest as possible.
Connectivity: 1 HDMI, 1 VGA, 3 or 4 USBs (preference for 3.0, at least 2.0), CD/DVD Reader/Recorder. Blu-Ray not needed, but optional. 1 SD/MicroSD (there is a notebook that hava Micro SD?). Don't use many others. Bluetooth not needed, but if possible, I want.
Color/Finish: Piano Black or something Grey. Suggestions accepted.
Another things I may have forgotten, please ask.
Use will be browsing, wathing movies/series, light to medium editior programs usage, gaming, songs (a lot) and, of course, Android user things.
Thanks for the help.
It will serve you well.
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Asus, just look at specification and price. Do we really need help you with that? We can only tell our opinions.
DexterMorganNL said:
Asus, just look at specification and price. Do we really need help you with that? We can only tell our opinions.
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I mean, do you know any notebook that fill the requirements?
If not, leave it.
Xperia X10 Mini Pro with CM9 by paul-xxx
Felimenta97 said:
I mean, do you know any notebook that fill the requirements?
If not, leave it.
Xperia X10 Mini Pro with CM9 by paul-xxx
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Yes I know, got one myself. Asus K53SV-SX838V. It got an I7 2670QM 2.2Ghz, 8GB Ram, Nvidia GT 540M 1GB, 640GB HDD.
But well you got look for yourself, Asus K53 is the serie I have, they have them in several options, I got the better option. This one should fill your needs for sure.
sent you a PM.
I've always been partial to Toshiba. Never had any hardware related problems with them.
Here.
I have an HP, and although they aren't that reliable, their performance is outstanding, especially the dv7 series. Go for one of these, Toshibas are also extremely durable and reliable.
OK. Thanks for your help. I was just searching for ideas.
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Here.
I have an HP, and although they aren't that reliable, their performance is outstanding, especially the dv7 series. Go for one of these, Toshibas are also extremely durable and reliable.
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I haz TWO of those. (HP)
Core i7 2.5GHz processor
8GB RAM
2GB RADEON Graphics (switchable)
17.3in HD screen
Win 7 HP
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Yes you heard correct!
Check this out peoples. I was blown away at the specs of this thing. And really even if it was half of what they claim I am still very impressed especially with the price tag! Who's in?
Read more..
Soooooo who wants a cheap device?
Oh yeah and a GOOOOD cheap device? $49 Duel core.....1GHz AllWinner A10 Cortex A8 ARM processor, Mali 400 graphics, and 1GB of DDR3 RAM, HDMI 1080p output is part of the package as well, as are 100M Ethernet, 4GB Nand Flash, two USB hosts, one MMC slot, an IR sensor, and a SATA port. Can duel boot both Android and Linux, and allows for Android TV!!!
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...more_tiny_sub100_linux_pcs_join_the_fray.html
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If its legitly that cheap i might buy a few for my grandparents and maybe even as x mas gifts for some of my younger family members
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What nice man.for Christmas
droid razr
miui v4
the apples slicer lol
wouldn't this be breaking the rules because it is advertising?
gsrubi preparation
Good Stuff for that price.
This means the new era of PCs
Definitely gonna buy this. :laugh:
Jarmezrocks said:
Yes you heard correct!
Check this out peoples. I was blown away at the specs of this thing. And really even if it was half of what they claim I am still very impressed especially with the price tag! Who's in?
Read more..
Soooooo who wants a cheap device?
Oh yeah and a GOOOOD cheap device? $49 Duel core.....1GHz AllWinner A10 Cortex A8 ARM processor, Mali 400 graphics, and 1GB of DDR3 RAM, HDMI 1080p output is part of the package as well, as are 100M Ethernet, 4GB Nand Flash, two USB hosts, one MMC slot, an IR sensor, and a SATA port. Can duel boot both Android and Linux, and allows for Android TV!!!
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...more_tiny_sub100_linux_pcs_join_the_fray.html
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I'm assuming you don't mean dual core cpu? The a8 is single core unlike the mali gpu but still looks very good value.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
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This reminds me of the viewsonic gtablet I got for free, rooted it with hc and then gave away for free. It had decent hardware for how old it was, but weighed enough to kill someone if you needed to use it for self defense purposes
It wasn't "the hot thing" on the market though, so custom roms for it were rare because it'd be like putting a custom paint job on a Kia... fail.
If people buy these things and there is support in the dev community out there it could be good, but I keep hearing this voice in my head thats saying "you get what you pay for".
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Seems interesting, but may be too good to be true (especially the price)
If the price is legitimately that low, no hesitation purchase from me
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You post this in the member found deals section
Does anybody know the clockspeed and type of RAM used in the Xperia Z?
Is it GDDR2 or GDDR3 or another type?
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Does anybody know the clockspeed and type of RAM used in the Xperia Z?
Is it GDDR2 or GDDR3 or another type?
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Its not the GDDR type since that is used on graphics card and cost a fortune compared to normal DDR type.
It would be DDR2 or DDR3 but i think i read somewhere on the forums it uses DDR3
It uses the APQ8064 S4 pro, the chipset information states this in the memory section :
Dual-channel 533 MHz (8.5 GB/sec)
DDR3 it is.
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DDR3 it is.
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Wrong, its LPDDR2 I believe.
As far as I'm aware, S600 is the first to support DDR3.
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Wrong, its LPDDR2 I believe.
As far as I'm aware, S600 is the first to support DDR3.
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I saw it on xz vs all others thread and they said sony officially stated it.
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I saw it on xz vs all others thread and they said sony officially stated it.
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There is no mention on the White paper or the User manual or the website that the RAM is DDR3, so I would not think it was (considering afaik S4Pro supports only DDR2 ram).
If the Z was DDR3 they would tout it as a feature since it would be the first DDR3 phone.
Hence my belief it is not. If you find documentation that states otherwise then let me know. But for now I will believe it is DDR2.
Either way. for the 8.5 GB/sec its either using the high-end DDR2 memory or Low end DDR3, you cant go wrong with either.
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Either way. for the 8.5 GB/sec its either using the high-end DDR2 memory or Low end DDR3, you cant go wrong with either.
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Has nothing to do with high end or low end.
It simply means that the ram is at 5xxmhz
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Wrong thread.
The Xperia Z has LPDDR2 (LP = Low Power) like most smartphones today. No smartphones are using LPDDR3 today, but it is expected that Samsung will be the first (or one of the first) to use it this year (GS4 maybe?), and LPDDR4 for tablets will be on the market in 2014.
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Wrong thread again:banghead:
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LordManhattan said:
The Xperia Z has LPDDR2 (LP = Low Power) like most smartphones today. No smartphones are using LPDDR3 today, but it is expected that Samsung will be the first (or one of the first) to use it this year (GS4 maybe?), and LPDDR4 for tablets will be on the market in 2014.
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Yes, it has been confirmed that Galaxy S4 uses LPDDR3 RAM. It seems to be the first phone to use one, even though HTC One uses S600 but I read it somewhere that it uses LPDDR2. But for Xperia Z, it's a no go for LPDDR3 as the chip doesn't support it.
For me S4 is no CM friendly but you can expected long support from Samsung like S2.
One is CM friendly but software features and hardware specs are below S4.
Xperia Z is the least interesting of all both hardware and software but it can play with me in the bath. I might go with it.
Galaxy S4 does indeed use LPDDR3:
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it can play with me in the bath.
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Wow, does anyone know how you activate that function? Running the water right now...
Isn't this phone supposed to come with to two gb ram?
How come it says 1.5gb
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Weird. It shows 2gb in about>hardware but in apps it shows 1.5. Rom toolbox also shows 1.5.
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Perhaps 512MB dedicated to system RAM only
500 MB is probably being used by the GPU
1.5GB of RAM is available to these running applications. If you navigate to Settings > About> Hardware Information the 2GB value will be seen. 0.5 GB is dedicated to ensure the device software runs smoothly.
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https://support.htc.com/en-us/030-H...B_of_RAM_available_when_viewing_Running_apps?
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https://support.htc.com/en-us/030-H...B_of_RAM_available_when_viewing_Running_apps?
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All thats says is that its "used by something else". The question is what.
And judging from how its worded it seems like its referring to the 0.5 GB going to the GPU.
It actually says its used to make things run smoother. I don't know how much you know about hardware, but GPUs have their own ram. A phone GPU wouldn't share system ram. Ram is used to hold temporary files such as an open app. As soon as that app is force closed/force stopped then that information is flushed from ram. Think of it like having a dual core processor. One core of ram keeps the currently running app or apps in its memory. Meanwhile, the other 512 mb core holds just system software. That way your apps are never making your Sense/ROM/etc slow. Its pretty smart.
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Most devices do this. The reserved RAM is to store critical processes like the dialer, base Android process, and other related things.
The operating system requires ram to actually run, its no different than a pc, total ram is not the same as available ram.
I'm 99.999% sure that the ram you are not seeing is system/hardware reserved memory that would not report as available memory.
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It actually says its used to make things run smoother. I don't know how much you know about hardware, but GPUs have their own ram. A phone GPU wouldn't share system ram.
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Most phone GPU's dont have dedicated memory and would in fact share system memory much like most laptops graphics cards.
Pretty sure if you cat /proc/iomem you'll see the addresses of the ram that has been reserved by the system.
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I'm 99.999% sure that the ram you are not seeing is system/hardware reserved memory that would not report as available memory.
Most phone GPU's dont have dedicated memory and would in fact share system memory much like most laptops graphics cards.
Pretty sure if you cat /proc/iomem you'll see the addresses of the ram that has been reserved by the system.
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I echo this. Basically it is just all a matter of how the system is reporting the memory. On my Note II, it shows almost all of the 2GB, on my HTC One, it excludes the system reserved memory.
I have a note 9 512gb variant with 8gb ram. However when I go to apps in settings none of the apps report full 8gb ram. See the attached screenshot. Storage is reported correctly by apps but not ram.
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ankydu said:
I have a note 9 512gb variant with 8gb ram. However when I go to apps in settings none of the apps report full 8gb ram. See the attached screenshot. Storage is reported correctly by apps but not ram.View attachment 4614341
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That's because all the running and cached apps take up an enormous chunk of the ram, I have the 6gb version and barely have 2gb available ram, shocking really, I am pretty disappointed, you should be even more so haha.
I even have over 100 apps disabled which did free up a bit, but not much.
I have a le eco le max 2 with 6gb ram with a custom pie rom on it, with almost 5gb free at all times.
I see no performance issues on the note 9 but it seems daft to advertise a phone with 6 gb of ram where barely 2 is ever available. Obviously any operating system and running/cached apps are going to take up some of that ram...but really over %60?
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I have a note 9 512gb variant with 8gb ram. However when I go to apps in settings none of the apps report full 8gb ram. See the attached screenshot. Storage is reported correctly by apps but not ram.
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2GB of RAM are eaten up by "SWAP" on this phone.
I'm no expert on the subject or a developer, so, here's a thread that touches on the subject:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-swap-torpedo-run-faster-reliably-t3766883/page1
Verify it for yourself with the app RAM TRUTH:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sa.ramtruth
Unless you're rooted, (AFAIK) there's nothing you can do to change how RAM is used.
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But does it really matter day to day? I honestly don't notice any lag with my N9 (6GB). I wonder what kind of paces some of y'all are putting your N9 through that makes negative RAM performance actually noticeable. But I guess I'm not really that kind of user?
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But does it really matter day to day? I honestly don't notice any lag with my N9 (6GB). I wonder what kind of paces some of y'all are putting your N9 through that makes negative RAM performance actually noticeable. But I guess I'm not really that kind of user?
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Same here, but, I'm glad I opted for the 8/512 version.
After experiencing 8G RAM on a few phones (BlackShark/OnePlus 5T/RazerPhone), I wasn't about to pass up the option, especially on a Samsung device, running a much heavier skin than vs the abovementioned. Out of all of those (Note9 included), I'd have to say the RazerPhone seemed smoother/faster, but not by very much.
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remember the Android Mantra; "unused ram is wasted ram"..
forget about how much free ram is "available"; it means absolutely nothing on a modern Android Phone..
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That's because all the running and cached apps take up an enormous chunk of the ram, I have the 6gb version and barely have 2gb available ram, shocking really, I am pretty disappointed, you should be even more so haha.
I even have over 100 apps disabled which did free up a bit, but not much.
I have a le eco le max 2 with 6gb ram with a custom pie rom on it, with almost 5gb free at all times.
I see no performance issues on the note 9 but it seems daft to advertise a phone with 6 gb of ram where barely 2 is ever available. Obviously any operating system and running/cached apps are going to take up some of that ram...but really over %60?
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The RAM usage is different. Android works accordingly to what is available.
4GB, 6GB, 8GB.
It actually utilizes what is available. The more RAM you have the more it will use
Well... Running Bitdefender in the background and my phone is not even reaching 4GB.
Anyway more is better than less, I'm sure some future version of Android will take full advantage of that RAM