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[Q] Should I get a Tab 1 now that 2 is 10"

Just saw the news that the Tab 2 is 10.1". I had been waiting to buy a tablet for the Tab 2 with hopes of the upgraded hardware and still a 7" screen. I don't want a 10" screen for a tab.
I guess i'm just looking to see if the hardware on the Tab 1 is good enough for most things.
Guess I'm just disappointed in a 10".

Will you be using it as a phone? If yes, I would ask to re-think it twice about 10" for a phone lol
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.

Or you can just wait until Honeycomb will be released, at that time you will have an upgrade in your GT 7" from Samsung or from XDA.
At the moment the Hardware is capable enough to make everything you want, record video at 720, watch HD movies or play HD Games...
Personally, I would not move to a 10" Tab, as a 7" fits my needs.

I'm not moving. I don't have 1.
I was waiting to buy a tab till the 2, but it's 10". I've played with my friends Ipad, besides being locked down, I don't like how big it is. I really like the 7" size.
I don't think in NA I can use it as a phone. PLus I don't think I want a CDMA tab even tho My cell is Verizon.
I'm using it mainly as GPS, Game, email, hopefully Skype, etc. All over wifi. I travel for my job and would like to have this, and wherever I go I have wifi, and refuse to pay ~30-40/month for a data plan or w/e.
So was just looking to see if people felt I should get the 7". I mean I know it's my decisions, I guess I just want to know based on what I want to use it for, does it do it well.
I do plan on rooting it and stuff, I heard some of the ROM's actually remove a ton of the lag, and I doubt samsung will release HoneyComb so was hoping a xda developer would for the Tab, and the Tab would be powerful enough to run it.

The 10" was a big downer. I dont see any real use for a tab just in the home and a 10" is to big to have with you all the time plus its heavy for the hands/wrists to use longer times.
Now when im running Rotos JMI ontop a 1,4GHz ext4 kernel i cant realy ask for much more. The tab works great and are quick in the perfect format.
Would be fun if hc get ported to the sgt. But i will never buy a 10" when they are almost completly useless in my eyes.
EDIT: And i use my sgt as phone so i have it on me all the time. It fits in my front pockets on my pants without problems, but im a big dude so i have big pockets

robertsydbrink said:
The 10" was a big downer. I dont see any real use for a tab just in the home and a 10" is to big to have with you all the time plus its heavy for the hands/wrists to use longer times.
Now when im running Rotos JMI ontop a 1,4GHz ext4 kernel i cant realy ask for much more. The tab works great and are quick in the perfect format.
Would be fun if hc get ported to the sgt. But i will never buy a 10" when they are almost completly useless in my eyes.
EDIT: And i use my sgt as phone so i have it on me all the time. It fits in my front pockets on my pants without problems, but im a big dude so i have big pockets
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I got big pockets too, the 7" fits.
I thought the tab 1 was 1GHZ not 1.4?. But you like it alot?
I don't think I can get calling in USA.

I'm glad the Tab 10.1 turned out to be a larger device. Now i can stop trying to figure out how to afford to upgrade, and stay with the Tab1 with its 7" of goodness.

dardack said:
I got big pockets too, the 7" fits.
I thought the tab 1 was 1GHZ not 1.4?. But you like it alot?
I don't think I can get calling in USA.
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He's flashed it with a custom kernel to run at 1.4.
If you buy the AT&T version, you can indeed get voice calling in the US, after you flash it with Euro firmware and insert a SIM from a voice plan device. You can also get it with the T-Mobile version, but there's a few issues with that. Good news is that both versions can use international firmware no problem, even if you don't want/use voice calling.
I'd stay the hell away from the Sprint and Verizon devices for a couple of reasons. The first is that they have less internal memory (2Gb vs 16Gb), and the other is that neither unit can use international firmware, leaving you almost entirely at the mercy of the carriers for upgrades.

Croak said:
He's flashed it with a custom kernel to run at 1.4.
If you buy the AT&T version, you can indeed get voice calling in the US, after you flash it with Euro firmware and insert a SIM from a voice plan device. You can also get it with the T-Mobile version, but there's a few issues with that. Good news is that both versions can use international firmware no problem, even if you don't want/use voice calling.
I'd stay the hell away from the Sprint and Verizon devices for a couple of reasons. The first is that they have less internal memory (2Gb vs 16Gb), and the other is that neither unit can use international firmware, leaving you almost entirely at the mercy of the carriers for upgrades.
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This is the kind of information I was looking for. TY for taking time.
What about the Best Buy / Amazon version? Yea I was staying away from Verizon/CDMA. I have verizon for my phone cause of work, and not a huge fan.
However, I won't need calling on the Tab.
Does it function OK OC"d at 1.4? It doesn't get too hot? Stability issues?
Yea I don't want to be at mercy. I want to put honeycomb on it if I do get it. I probably will now that 2 is 10, so I'll get 1. Just gonna wait and see if price comes down to like 400 or somethign hopefully.

I am 7" fan, too. Would love to see a SGT with the specs of the new 10.1" SGT 2 (or xoom), but with 7" screen. I am not big man, but "rounded in middle" (spare tire). I can fit my SGT in back pocket, nicely. It has fully replaced my Nexus 1.
For the 7" fans, the question maybe to stick with SGT 1 or maybe look at Acer a100 (http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=13010) -- appears to be 7" but with Tegra 2 (and a bump in a few other areas). The 7" form factor may have been validated with rumors about a 7" ipad (but those rumor seem unsubstantiated) -- so that might make more manufacturers take notice.
What would be really intersting, IMHO, 6", or 6.5" with SGT (or better) specs. I am not sure a 5" with 1024x600 would work..
LG has an 8.9" odd ball too.....
I think there is some more to come from MWC...maybe sammy has a refresh for the 7" sgt too?

Don't forget Dell has a 7" tablet too and it has dual core CPU (unlike our SGT 7"). The only downer is screen size is 800x480.
I don't think you could buy a SGT (no contract) lesser than $450 unless used. Streak 7" is $450 no contract.

I was in the same boat - bought my GT two weeks ago on T-Mobile, hoping that if there is an announcement about GT2, I can take a look at it before my return window closes. And at 10" no thank you. I actually had an iPad for few months (my wife wanted it more than me...) but just sold it, because it kept sitting unused, as it was too big for a book reader or to take it with me everywhere, but too small for good browsing (have a 14.1" laptop with 1680x1050 res for that).
I looked at the Dell Streak 7, but that screen just plain sucks. It looks like Dell was trying to build something nice, then just decided last minute that 7" won't work, so they found the cheapest LCD they could lay their hands on. Not to mention the battery life...
While it would be nice to have a GT with dual-core, 1Gb RAM and all that, I think the current hardware is more than capable, and will run Honeycomb just fine. My next tablet would have to be a lot more powerful, and have higher res screen.

i will stay with my 7'' tab
the best thing about the tab is it's size and the cell phone. i dont want to go back walking around with two devices in my pocket, i used to have an iphone & a big ass ipad so i know what is like to walk with two devices not cool lol.who ever makes the next 7'' tab with all the good stuff and a cell phone included i'm buying that.

quattr0 said:
Will you be using it as a phone? If yes, I would ask to re-think it twice about 10" for a phone lol
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
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AFAIK the tab 10.1 can't be used as a phone

quattr0 said:
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
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Well i came to the tab from a dell streak and i'll tell ya the tab does everything way better than the streak, except fit in your pocket...... i wont be going back to the streak.

Yea I've read about the Dell 7", not getting that for sure. Screen rez alone plus battery life, no TY.
So there is another 7" Tab coming?
EDIT: That Ace 7" seems nice, plus a WIFI only version. No word on release in USA tho, only Europe.

FYI: HTC annouced the 'flyer' at MWC. This is a 7" too. 1.5ghz, 1024x600, cameras, android 2.4 (?) or honeycomb, etc. GSM voice support unknown.

fwelland said:
FYI: HTC annouced the 'flyer' at MWC. This is a 7" too. 1.5ghz, 1024x600, cameras, android 2.4 (?) or honeycomb, etc. GSM voice support unknown.
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I think i may return my GT and wait for this. I will only be buying one Tab, so I gotta make the right choice.

Here is a decent comparison matrix of the newly announced Android tablets
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/1...-lg-g-slate-vs-samsung-tab-10-1-vs-htc-flyer/
no mention of phone/voice on any of these; this is a deal breaker for some of us.

It's a deal breaker for me as i was a "one gadget man"
my main reason i go with samsung was because it can be used as a phone
if it isn't i'd go with htc already
if flyer can be used as a phone too, i might be jumping ship to htc ^^

New guy with new guy questions

I am an Evo 4G owner and love it .. I'm now in the market for a tablet. Is it better to get a honeycomb tablet or go with the Galaxy Tab and root it? I ask because I would really like to stay with Sprint but the Xoom is coming wi-fi only next week on Sprint. Looking for a little guidance here. Also, can I make video calls with the Galaxy Tab? Thanks Android fam!

Tricky question really....
The Galaxy Tab is a 7" device whereas the various Honeycomb Tablets that are appearing are all 10.1" devices. Is size a factor for you ?
The Galaxy Tab can be used as a phone (in the US you will need to root and modify it). I have been using my Tab as my only phone for 5 months now and can't imagine going back to using a 'regular' sized phone because the screens all look tiny to me now
A friend that works at Samsung told me that the new 10.1" and 8.9" Galaxy Tabs that are coming out soon will both be capable of making calls (again probably disabled in the US models).
I've played with an Acer Iconia 500 - 10.1" tablet running Honeycomb and it was a great experience, however its too big to carry everywhere and it doesn't have phone capability so it doesn't fit my needs.
So the question is how are you going to use it ? If you want something to sit at home then go for the new larger sized tablets, if you want something mobile to have with you all the time then the original 7" Galaxy Tab is the best option (especially if you get rid of your phone and use the tab instead).
Sean

Honestly, go for latest firmware. Many machine are already available with Honeycomb 3.0 so it would be wise to get the latest. Also, most of the machines running 3.0 come with dual core processor. That's my opinion.

Thanks for the info guys. My Evo is great and I am looking for a tablet to use more as a replacement for my laptop while on the move ... although using the galaxy tab for a phone does sound pretty good .. size wise, it sounds a little strange to use a tablet for a phone but I haven't went that way so I don't know ... I want to use it at home and on the go .. carrying a laptop everywhere has its advantages and disadvantages but the new tablets are going to be wifi only and that kind of defeats the purpose for me ... can the galaxy tab be rooted and used on 4G and are there roms that have honeycomb? Thanks for helping me out!

any other opinion or options?

If size dosen't matter for you then take a honeycomb tablet (iconia a500, asus transformer, galaxy tab 10.1...). Personnaly I like my galaxy tab 7, because of all the reasons listed by seanchk above.
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I use my SGT 7" as a phone + tablet too, for the same reasons as above. Fair warning, the phone function works in speakerphone as a default unless you use the wired headset included in the package or buy a bluetooth headset which I do use.
~ A little thanks goes a looong way! ~

A 10" tablet to me is almost equivalent to the portability of a notebook for me. I have an ipad 2 (which my wife uses mostly now), and carrying it around was a hassle.
The tab is the perfect size because you can put it in your back pocket or your average jacket pocket. It's also nice to be able to hold it with one hand for an extended period without getting sore. The ipad 2 is a great device for using in bed but if I'm out and about, the galaxy tab is a lot more practical.

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A 10" tablet to me is almost equivalent to the portability of a notebook for me. I have an ipad 2 (which my wife uses mostly now), and carrying it around was a hassle.
The tab is the perfect size because you can put it in your back pocket or your average jacket pocket. It's also nice to be able to hold it with one hand for an extended period without getting sore. The ipad 2 is a great device for using in bed but if I'm out and about, the galaxy tab is a lot more practical.
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grukko, thanks for the input. I have been told that if I have an evo, I shouldn't bother with an android tablet. how do you feel on that comment? also, mobility is huge for me as this will be mainly used for on the go to replace having to carry a laptop everywhere. i am just wondering if the 10 inchers coming out on wifi only are going to be worth not having a 3G/4G connection.
also, I will be keeping my evo as I need a phone with unlimited minutes for business. i live in the US. just want to be happy and comfortable with my purchase.

[Q] Is P1000 still worth buying TODAY?

I'm looking for a Tab, but Transformer seems to big for me. P1000 is the perfect size, but it is pretty old device. Is it still worth buying today?
Thanks.

If you think 7" tablet is a perfect size for you then why not, the Galaxy tab is only 1 year old and it still stands against any other alternatives out in the market today.
I would hardly say just because the tablet is "pretty old" that it isn't a good purchase. It's well supported by developers and the fact that people are still purchasing it... Its a solid working and built piece of kit.
You won't be disappointed.

I would say that they are definitely still worth it. The price point alone is a great reason. You can get a Galaxy tablet for less than half the price of many of the newest tabs.
It's already been shown that these models are capable of running the new firmwares. There are ports of Honeycomb out there already, and though there are still some issues to be ironed out, they work pretty well. Since installing a 2.3.4 rom on my vzw tab, I've been very impressed with how responsive and cleanly it runs.
Having handled some of the newer and larger tablets, I've found that the smaller size is really more ideal to me personally. I can fit my Galaxy tablet in my pocket. My folks for example both have iPads, and they are just much larger and bulkier devices. You can't drop one in your pocket real quick while you are out on the run.
Anyway, hope that helps!

Seamus1 said:
I would say that they are definitely still worth it. The price point alone is a great reason. You can get a Galaxy tablet for less than half the price of many of the newest tabs.
It's already been shown that these models are capable of running the new firmwares. There are ports of Honeycomb out there already, and though there are still some issues to be ironed out, they work pretty well. Since installing a 2.3.4 rom on my vzw tab, I've been very impressed with how responsive and cleanly it runs.
Having handled some of the newer and larger tablets, I've found that the smaller size is really more ideal to me personally. I can fit my Galaxy tablet in my pocket. My folks for example both have iPads, and they are just much larger and bulkier devices. You can't drop one in your pocket real quick while you are out on the run.
Anyway, hope that helps!
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I live in eastern europe and here the tab's price is almost the same as Transformer's. And that one has Tegra 2 and a nice 10.1' IPS display. They are both here 540 USD / 380 EUR. I tried Iconia A500 Tab, but I was quite disappointed - it was very heavy, typing text while trying to hold with one hand was challenging. The OS and that big display sure looks great, but for now I can't see my self taking this out in the street while walking, or chatting (IM) while sitting in the bus on my way college. How much is the P1000 in the US? Or UK?

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I live in eastern europe and here the tab's price is almost the same as Transformer's. And that one has Tegra 2 and a nice 10.1' IPS display. They are both here 540 USD / 380 EUR. I tried Iconia A500 Tab, but I was quite disappointed - it was very heavy, typing text while trying to hold with one hand was challenging. The OS and that big display sure looks great, but for now I can't see my self taking this out in the street while walking, or chatting (IM) while sitting in the bus on my way college. How much is the P1000 in the US? Or UK?
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In the UK, the P1000 (if you can find any in stock) still goes for around £399 and the P1010 is currently in bestbuy/currys for £299.
But search on ebay or other sites, you can find one for a lot cheaper. I got mine brand new from ebay for £250 (P1000).
Of course, these will probably fall in price when newer alternatives comes out but for now, they are holding its value as they are still popular and people are buying them.

I just bought one today. So far I am happy with it.

I have seen the US models selling new for between $150-200 when you buy from a mobile provider. For example, I know Verizon was selling them earlier this year for $200 when you agreed to a two year service agreement. I've also seen the WiFi only tablets for $350. Personally, I was willing to sign a contract, because having the 3g data access was something I desired.
But, I would do as one of the other posters suggested, and check ebay. As I understand it, you can buy a US model and put a European firmware on it. I would double check that though, as I don't want to tell you something I am not entirely sure of.

Got mine a month ago in aussie land, on a 12 month contract. 0 dollars for the tab and $39 a month for the plan with 8g of data and I get 3 months of the plan for free. Was really happy with that price.

Got mine in Italy for 300 Eur. Best purchase of the year: perfect balance between pocketability and readability, and with Gingerbread it is lag free and quick.
Rumours are that Samsung is going to present a revamped 7" tablet w/ upgraded cpu and amoled screen. I won't upgrade unless it has usb host or otg, which is the feature I miss much on my Tab.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"

Nothing wrong with the P1000. Good support is important. Even if it's a year old it still beats an ipad. Good resolution and speed, and very complete. Very sturdy, durable Gorilla glass.
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If 7" tablet is your preference, get a HTC Flyer or Huawei Ideos Slim?
Unless u want the voice call/sms capabilities

debernardis said:
Got mine in Italy for 300 Eur. Best purchase of the year: perfect balance between pocketability and readability, and with Gingerbread it is lag free and quick.
Rumours are that Samsung is going to present a revamped 7" tablet w/ upgraded cpu and amoled screen. I won't upgrade unless it has usb host or otg, which is the feature I miss much on my Tab.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
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Any Samsung official reading this would love to put usb otg and make you upgrade
While for me, I ll try not to upgrade, but the amoled screen might tempt me.
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I'm looking for a Tab, but Transformer seems to big for me. P1000 is the perfect size, but it is pretty old device. Is it still worth buying today?
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I bought mine last month, and I love it. My pocket is not that big to fit in the tab, so I bought a small bag to bring around. I was confused whether buying Galaxy S (for super amoled and small factor) or Galaxy Tab (for bigger screen to read ebooks). Well, its worth buying

I bought one a couple of weeks ago, and am very happy so far. Yes, it's a year old - but the screen is very good (much better than alternative 7" tablets'), it's relatively cheap & there's lots of development going on with it.
The next 7" from Samsung is set to have an AMOLED screen & will probably be dual-core, which will be awesome, but I wanted something now & wasn't prepared to 1) wait & 2) pay much more than I did...
Make sure you root & stick Overcome ROM on it! It becomes a different animal once you do!

Got an Asus Transformer for the home/travel, but day to day chucking in pocket (albeit large pockets), still love the Tab. Got it for 200bucks so can't complain.
If I had to pay full price? I think I'd skip, for that price a newer 7" tablet would still be preferred.
Main thing it comes down to though is where are you, and do you need voice? if so, Tab might still be perfect for you.
It's a good question to ask here, as the answer isn't obvious. Without a tablet, I would, if I had the cash, get the Tab again. It's portability still makes it a winner for me.
Waiting for the next model is ok, but... these things always seem to take 6months longer than initially planned it appears.

Thee galaxy pad still a good tab/phone. its fast, not to big and have a lot of apps/games that works so...

Galaxy tab worth to buy.why?
The best tablet for 7 inch tablet.
Equiped with microsd,simcard for mms,sms,3g and telephone
the best size to carry around even easily beat ipad
Development of Custom rom and stock rom are always up to date
unless samsung release new 7 inch tablet with dual core processor and amoled sceen
then it is not worthy anymore to purchase

When I got the P1000, my standard in speed and responsiveness on android began to change. I began to compare the Qualcomm chipset based androids vs. the Hummingbird of Samsung. The P1000 (and the original Galaxy S Plus which runs the same thing) is really good and even better can match the next gen Qualcomm. See how the original Galaxy S graphics even beats the Galaxy S Plus (newer release), is because of the same speedy setup done before.
The P1000 is a very good device. Really crazy why Samsung shortchanged many unknowing people as they downgraded the P1010 with an inferior chipset and graphics.
Is there already a dual core 7" as good as the P1000? The Dell Streak 7 besides abit more massive has a problem with batt life. Archos I didn't bother to consider. Is there anymore? The Galaxy Tab 8.9 is coming out better (dunno when), but it is not 7". Nothing compares that I know... for now.

I've only had mine for about a week, I bought it second hand for a great price and I love it so far. I use it more than my laptop and my Asus Transformer. I LOVE the size. The 10" tabs you pretty much need to use both hand to hold it all the time, the G.Tab easily in 1. Plus being able to type with both thumbs instead of finger pecking is a HUGE plus.
Yeah, the Galaxy Seven will probably be out in a couple months but if you need one now then it's a great little tab.

I was at the shop today again, played with XOOM and again with Galaxy Tab. Damn its size is just perfect and the screen so detailed and feels high quality. But then I tried to do what I do on My N900 (Maemo 5 OS), and WOW :O IT CAN NOT MULTITASK. I never noticed that! You can not have skype online and browse the web while listening to music. I asked the guy at the shop. He confirmed, just some can "run in the background" but there is no task switcher... Maybe you can make it multitask? On iOS i have backgrounder and Kirikae and it works like a charm, can you do the same on android?

Skype online while browsing the web and listening to music? won't the sound conflict?
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[Q] Should i buy a Galaxy Tab?

The topic says it all, with the current state of the tablet world, and understanding that when the Transformer Prime and its generation of tablets comes out the Gtab7 will be 2 generations behind, should i buy one ?
I can get one 2nd hand, for 150€ wifi+3g.
Is it worth it ?

if you can find one for a decent price, i'd say go for it... it might be worth checking the model of the one you want to buy to make sure developers support it if thats what you are after.
i just recently bought myself a galaxy tab 7 and im sure i'll get tons of use out of it. its such a nice size and portable, and the expericne is comparable to my phone, so nothing its too foreign like it is going from froyo to honeycomb or something.
i figure i'll keep this one until they come out with some decent 7 inch icecream sandwich tablets and i'll sell it and buy one of those. but i dont see one coming out that will thrill me much until at least mid next year.
i bought mine for about that same price (but in USD), honestly for me the instant i saw the deal it was far too good for me to resist.

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if you can find one for a decent price, i'd say go for it... it might be worth checking the model of the one you want to buy to make sure developers support it if thats what you are after.
i just recently bought myself a galaxy tab 7 and im sure i'll get tons of use out of it. its such a nice size and portable, and the expericne is comparable to my phone, so nothing its too foreign like it is going from froyo to honeycomb or something.
i figure i'll keep this one until they come out with some decent 7 inch icecream sandwich tablets and i'll sell it and buy one of those. but i dont see one coming out that will thrill me much until at least mid next year.
i bought mine for about that same price (but in USD), honestly for me the instant i saw the deal it was far too good for me to resist.
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I already own a HD2 (work phone) and a DHD (private phone), so the Tab will be a complement to this ecosystem. I like it not being too big, and yet not too small.
We can find tons of 7inch tablets, bat all of them have the same resolution has my phones, and i wish to AVOID pixels
Performance wise, is it still on par? Can i throw it the same things i can on my DHD ?
How do you expect the ICS support to be? We're talking about samsung turf, and they're currently the "good guys" on google eyes, so the systems will always be similar. Yet i remain renitent... I hope others will comment this thread

well if you are looking at the one of the first generations of galaxy tabs (the ones that come with android 2.2), then i think samsung will not officially be releasing ICS on it. however there are some people who are working on porting ICS to the tab. You can find more on that in the development section.
I have a samsung galaxy s, SCH-I500, same as the fascinate on verizons network i think...
the phone and the tab have nearly identical specs, but the tab does feel much smoother. probably due to the increased ram it has.
one thing you can always consider though. 200$ is a good deal, and for what you can buy it for, if it turns out you cant achieve the experience you want on it... how hard will it be to just turn over to someone for the cost you paid? or even a bit more?
i cant really speak for the hd2 or desire hd phones, as i've not played with either. but i suspect the fact that you'll be using the tablet for different purposes would still make it a good buy. so far i think all the apps i have on my phone have ported over to my tab with no issues, seeing as how its pretty much the same OS version.

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well if you are looking at the one of the first generations of galaxy tabs (the ones that come with android 2.2), then i think samsung will not officially be releasing ICS on it. however there are some people who are working on porting ICS to the tab. You can find more on that in the development section.
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Yes, i'm talking about the original Galaxy Tab. Not the new ones with Honeycomb
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I have a samsung galaxy s, SCH-I500, same as the fascinate on verizons network i think...
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I'm in Europe, so no name mumbo jumbo for me. We have the Galaxy S, and the Galaxy S2. No Fascinates or whatever Verizon/Sprint/ATT/Tmouse chooses
(Thank god for that...)
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the phone and the tab have nearly identical specs, but the tab does feel much smoother. probably due to the increased ram it has.
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I've come to accept that RAM is a major player on this OS. It's memory freak, but above a certain point, it's pointless of course (just like a PC).
As it stands, on 2.3.x, anything above 1gb is too much
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one thing you can always consider though. 200$ is a good deal, and for what you can buy it for, if it turns out you cant achieve the experience you want on it... how hard will it be to just turn over to someone for the cost you paid? or even a bit more?
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200€ is a little too much above my budget. 150€ is the most i'll give, expecially for something that's probably 1 year old (i don't mean the release data, i mean the warranty)
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i cant really speak for the hd2 or desire hd phones, as i've not played with either. but i suspect the fact that you'll be using the tablet for different purposes would still make it a good buy. so far i think all the apps i have on my phone have ported over to my tab with no issues, seeing as how its pretty much the same OS version.
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I WOULD be using the tablet. It got sold (bummer) minutes after the OP.
Pitty.... but i'll keep looking...

ah... sorry about the dollar amount... i was doing a rough conversion. 150 euros is about 200 us dollars.
that's something that was kind of getting me discouraged about my search for a 7inch. the lowest price i found before the one i bought was i think 330 USD, which is about 100 more euros than your budget.
thats why the minute i saw the deal, i jumped on it right away.
one thing that seems to be unanimous though, is try and stay away from the wifi only versions of the tab, as they lack in updates (even from samsung), and have little to no 3rd party development.

dav3yb said:
ah... sorry about the dollar amount... i was doing a rough conversion. 150 euros is about 200 us dollars.
that's something that was kind of getting me discouraged about my search for a 7inch. the lowest price i found before the one i bought was i think 330 USD, which is about 100 more euros than your budget.
thats why the minute i saw the deal, i jumped on it right away.
one thing that seems to be unanimous though, is try and stay away from the wifi only versions of the tab, as they lack in updates (even from samsung), and have little to no 3rd party development.
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Message received and understood! No wifi.
Don't apolagize, i'm the one that should be.
Still, 150€/$200 is a very nice deal, i hope i can find one again.
BTW, how hard is it to sim unlock this things ?

i couldnt tell you how easy it is to sim unlock the tab... mine is a verizon wireless version, and they dont take sim cards... and i think its locked into their network.

GSM tabs are easy to unlock. Search the forums.
I've actually. Bought 3 of the original 7" tabs recently, all at or below $200 CDN. All were mint condition.
Why 3? Well. Friends keep wanting in on the great deal
The Galaxy tab, while older is still very capable. Compare it to the kindle fire or nook color at around the same price point.
Slap CM 7.1 or CM 9 and you're in a good spot.
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Note N7000 or Note I717?

Hi Everyone,
I live in Toronto and I am on Fido right now. I also have a Bell SIM that I use from time to time. It seems that Rogers has Galaxy Samsung Note I717.
What would be the best move for me? Buy a more expensive N-7000 or a I717?
I think N-7000 is not LTE compatible with Fido? (correct me if I am wrong).
I am also very interested in Ice Cream sandwich and heard all updates and better apps will be released only for N-7000 or sooner for it. Is that true?
Thanks

torontobc said:
Hi Everyone,
I live in Toronto and I am on Fido right now. I also have a Bell SIM that I use from time to time. It seems that Rogers has Galaxy Samsung Note I717.
What would be the best move for me? Buy a more expensive N-7000 or a I717?
I think N-7000 is not LTE compatible with Fido? (correct me if I am wrong).
I am also very interested in Ice Cream sandwich and heard all updates and better apps will be released only for N-7000 or sooner for it. Is that true?
Thanks
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I SHALL SAVE YOU!
I'm on fido (NO LTE, HSDPA+ gives around 7.9 Mbsp down 1.7 Mbsp up), and recently bought a N7000. My thoughts to you are:
1) Do you need LTE? Yes -> I717
2) Stock experience with ICS coming sooner rather than later -> N7000
3) Performance -> I've tried both the N7000 and I717 and I'd say the N7000 runs a TINY bit better. Benchmarks are over-exaggerated.

Also, N7000 development is much better ATM, which is understandable - it's an older phone. So, if you like playing with custom roms, that might perhaps be another point worth considering.
Edited: this thread might also be of interest to the OP.

Thanks guys.
So, I don't use LTE either but am disappointed that I can't full-proof the future with a N-7000 version as I am leaning more towards that too.
Got following questions now:
A- ICS is not released for it yet right?
B- I get H+ on my phone, that is 4G or HSPA+ and not LTE right?
C- What about rooting Galaxy Note? N-7000 or I717?
D- What is a better phone than Note now? Galaxy S II? or yet better than that?
Thanks again,

torontobc said:
Thanks guys.
So, I don't use LTE either but am disappointed that I can't full-proof the future with a N-7000 version as I am leaning more towards that too.
Got following questions now:
A- ICS is not released for it yet right?
B- I get H+ on my phone, that is 4G or HSPA+ and not LTE right?
C- What about rooting Galaxy Note? N-7000 or I717?
D- What is a better phone than Note now? Galaxy S II? or yet better than that?
Thanks again,
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A)There is a leaked unofficial version and AOSP based roms right now. Official ICS is coming in Q2.
B)Yes, that is "4G/HSPA+"
C)Both are easy to root, if you have rooted Android phones before, no need of ADB to root.
D)Right now, the N-7000 is the best phone b/c of it's screen size and resolution. The only phones to compare would be the Optimus LTE, Galaxy Nexus, and Sony Experia S(Super High PPI). Honestly, I would wait until the SIII comes out if you're this late into the year as Quad-Core phones are coming around the corner and you can future-proof yourself better this way.

Thanks Kotaro_14.
I am afraid no one else do a big screen like Note anytime soon and it's such a beautiful phone that I am in love with it now
But, low battery, no ICS is a turn off.
I thought screen size and resolution are the same on both version except for having different graphic card chips?!
Best,

torontobc said:
Thanks Kotaro_14.
I am afraid no one else do a big screen like Note anytime soon and it's such a beautiful phone that I am in love with it now
But, low battery, no ICS is a turn off.
I thought screen size and resolution are the same on both version except for having different graphic card chips?!
Best,
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N7000 has physical buttons that don't waste screen estate like the i717.
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N7000 have the better cpu if compare to N1717

LTE is overrated until carrier start rolling out $20 unlimited data plan, which definitely will not happen before we see the next "note" HSPA+ in my area is doing 7mbps RL. There is virtually no difference between the two based on what I do with my Note. Not to mention LTE cut your battery life by an enormous margin. I would not bother even if my phone has it.
I know Galaxy SIII is around the corner and probably has quad processor. But the main reason I dump iphone for Note is because of the screen size. Making mobile task much easier. Unless SIII had 5.3" screen, it is not for me. Should you wait for SIII? Well, if you can wait... Usually mean that you dont need it....
Honestly, I really dont know how a quad core cpu / gpu will improve user experience. You can port the most demanding game to Galaxy SIII or even CAD program, but you will still be limited to the 4~5 ish [email protected]@ those with gigantic fingers or guerrilla palms are going to be sh!t out of luck

Well the reason for me to wait for the SIII is that with a more powerful GPU and CPU a port for Windows 8 will probably come along and that's what really interests me. And of course Ubuntu also. I agree the screen size won't be as big as the Note, but I'm willing to get it b/c of huge dev community, probably fix the black clipping issue, and SAMOLED+. Of course the Note 2 is also another option.
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+1 i like xda-developers

There was an OpenMonko or OpenMoko project just prior to Android that did Linux on the DIY hardware but it died with Android coming out. I think expectations from phones are way too much now that it requires it's own separate OS fork like Android.
Thanks for all the info guys. I am leaning towards N-7000 now. Hate the no warranty though.

I had the i717 for a few weeks. Honestly ran great. Played 8-bit 720p mkv vids no problem. I saw a few quirks with 10-bit mkv files, but I'm unsure as to whether I should attribute that to the video player (moboplayer) or the chipset.
I rooted and flashed it over to SAUROM on day one. I didn't have too many performance issues, though it somewhat stuttered trying to run Ocarina of Time, moreso than my Atrix did.
I don't have LTE down here in my part of Florida, US, and I don't expect to see it any time soon. I wish I had a few tags to toy with the NFC, I really would've liked to have tossed one in my car dock.
My reason for returning was mostly the cost of phone + AT&T service. Monthly prices were more than I calculated, and I thought it in my best interest to pick up the phone elsewhere for cheaper while using a prepaid service. I found no real fault with the phone itself.
I just ordered an n7000 from Expansys US. It should arrive tomorrow. Apparently Expansys has a European office to help with claims on Samsung's 2-year warranty. Moreover, their price for a new n7000 with Samsung car charger and next-day shipping still came out to $100 less than trying to buy a brand new i717 here in the States. I won't be able to compare performance until it's in my hands, but the consensus seems to be that the n7000 offers a bit more performance, especially on ICS.

I'm trying to decide between the n7000 and the i717 myself. I'm currently on Verizon but am looking to escape Big Red.
The N7000 obviously is a bit faster, from the benchmarks it seems mostly on higher end 3D stuff that the N7000 is faster than the I717. I like the design of the N7000 better as well, and unlocked aspect appeals to me considering the carrier problems I've had. From the sound of it the ROM situation sounds better, which also appeals to me.
My main concern here is carrier. T-mo is out as I don't want to be stuck with 2G. AT&T worries me though, some people have been using the $50 Gophone unlimited plan, but it sounds like if AT&T finds out it's a smart phone you're out of luck, and the data plan options for pre-paid are expensive last I looked.
The plus side of the I717 is that I can get it on contract and defray the up front cost. Plus I don't have to worry about figuring out what kind of plan I can use on the International version. I also get a corporate discount of 20-22% on AT&T but it doesn't apply to the prepaid or "GoPhone" plans. A typical plan (450 min, unlimited texting, 3gb data) would probably run me about $77/mo after tax.
I'd be tempted to go N7000 and get a normal plan from AT&T and skip the Gophone hassles, but I refuse to sign a 2 year contract and I don't know if they'll allow you to be on a normal plan if you don't sign a contract. I know T-mo won't.
So opinions, what would you folks do in my situation? N7000 with normal plan, N7000 with Gophone, or I717 with normal plan?

You can reflash the modem of the i717 for full 3G compatibility on T-mobile AWS bands, so that might be an advantage over the n7000. Moreover, with the recent Skyrocket ICS leak, I'd expect to see some sort of ICS on the i717 within the next couple of weeks.
If you're not overly concerned about warranty, I'd honestly recommend picking up an i717 on Craigslist/eBay and taking it to a prepaid AT&T MVNO like Red Pocket or Straight Talk. If you're in an area where T-Mobile offers better service, eBay can get you an unlock code for $25, then just flash the proper modem and head to T-Mo prepaid or Simple Mobile. Either way, you're looking at $45-60 a month.
While performance may be marginally better on the n7000, I found the i717 to be in no way lacking after two weeks of use. The biggest deciding factors for me was cost. I wanted the security of a manufacturer's warranty, and Expansys offered a new n7000 for less than I could pick up an i717 here.

Hmm, I'd never heard of Red Pocket. It appears they have coverage anywhere AT&T does. The $60 for unlimited talk/text/2gb data is appealing and I'd not have to worry about contracts and such...

If you're looking into the MVNOs, I've heard Jolt Mobile offers better service than Red Pocket at the same price. Either way, Red Pocket apparently has the nasty issue where, if you try to re-up your plan a few days early, you lose the last few days of the plan and the new billing cycle starts up the day you pay. I've heard of no such issue with Jolt.
I'm personally opting for Straight Talk next month. They recently started offering sim cards for their AT&T and T-Mobile services. They market an "unlimited everything" plan for $45/month, but the truth is if you go over 100MB a day, you risk them cutting off your service. That's not an issue for me, as I don't even hit 100MB a week, but some users prefer the comfort of using 2GB whenever/however they want. If you go over with RP/Jolt, they just cut off data until the next month.
Moreover, Straight Talk is one of the few AT&T MVNOs to get access to AT&T's roaming partners. Most others are limited to just the AT&T towers. It's something to consider if you travel a lot.
As of now, none of them have access to AT&T's LTE service, so regardless of the device you choose, you'd be limited to HSPA+ service, which really isn't a bad "limit" at all. If you're concerned about battery life, SAUROM for the i717 is based on the Canadian i717 ROM, and it gives you the option to turn LTE off. Obviously not an issue with the n7000.

I think I'm just going to suck it up and get the I717... I have my eyes on an amp for my home theater and it pretty well goes out the window for lack of funds if I get the N7000. Hopefully AT&T doesn't sit on the ICS upgrade for too long compared to the N7000.
If I didn't get a discount for service through my employer it would probably be a different story.
That and with my luck I'd have to ship the thing back to the UK for warranty service when something went wrong with it...
Thanks for your input guys.

Ruh roh... it looks like AT&T is going to be a pain about my credit. Odd since Verizon and T-mo never had any issues (though T-mo made me pay a $50 deposit).
I may have to go International after all.

Been toying with the n7000 that came in today.
Handles videos like a champ, but not much better than the i717. 8bit 720p mkvs still fly, thanks to hardware decoding. 10bit 720p mkvs resort to software decoding and stutter.
I've tried two video players for the 10bit video. MoboPlayer plays them full-speed, but there are plenty of graphical glitches like color wash out and excessive blockiness. MX Video Player plays without graphical issue, but video is somewhat slow and stuttery. I'm hoping an overclock kernel will help.
Ocarina of Time ran more smoothly than it did on my i717. Still not entirely smooth, but definitely playable.
As far as functionality, LTE was always out of the question, but I apparently traded the NFC chip for an fm radio. That's actually worthwhile to me, as I attend several events over the year that broadcast audio over local fm.
I am -not- enjoying this home button. I've got fairly large hands, so I haven't had much issue using the Note one-handedly. The issue is with the capacitive buttons. Since I hold the Note in my left hand, on the i717, I could comfortably reach the Menu, Home, and Back buttons with my left thumb. I never used the Search button. On the n7000, what used to be the Back button is now the edge of the Home button, and the Back button is pushed further to the side. It's not entirely unreachable, but it's very uncomfortable. Then again, most users here probably have hands smaller than mine, so your mileage may vary.
I'll be toying with ROMs tomorrow, but quick glance tells me the ICS roms aren't as stable as I'd prefer, so I'll hold off on those for a bit.
So yeah, if I had to compare the two right now:
i717: LTE, NFC, more comfortable Capacitive button layout
n7000: FM Radio, Cheaper New (unless ordering 32GB model), better Emulator performance
Both handle movies amazingly well. While the n7000 definitely has more ROM options now, that'll fix itself in time, and what's currently available for the i717 is good quality. ICS should follow shortly.