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Unrooted phone. Now how to force OTA update?

I'm selling my G1 and am demoing it for a potential buyer tomorrow. I've unrooted the phone and am back to 1.0. My question is whether it is possible to force an OTA update to the latest Android version 1.6? I've waited nearly 24 hours and haven't received any update from Tmobile. Is this typical? Is there any way to speed this process up? I'd like to demo the cool features of 1.6 if I can.

scrappyabs2 said:
I'm selling my G1 and am demoing it for a potential buyer tomorrow. I've unrooted the phone and am back to 1.0. My question is whether it is possible to force an OTA update to the latest Android version 1.6? I've waited nearly 24 hours and haven't received any update from Tmobile. Is this typical? Is there any way to speed this process up? I'd like to demo the cool features of 1.6 if I can.
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It takes up to 3 days after a phone has been activated to receive the newest update

JAguirre1231 said:
It takes up to 3 days after a phone has been activated to receive the newest update
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Damn. Is there any way to manually apply the update without root access?

scrappyabs2 said:
Damn. Is there any way to manually apply the update without root access?
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I think there used to be a way with anycut but I don't remember

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Opera...o-modify-your-Android-phone/m-p/200730#M17823
follow that, download the G1 version

Chididdy123 said:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Opera...o-modify-your-Android-phone/m-p/200730#M17823
follow that, download the G1 version
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He needs to be on 1.5 first, he is on 1.0

*edit bad link*
Here's a better link
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-manually-install-android-15-cupcake-us-version

Thank you, Gentlemen. Updating as we speak.

This does NOT belong on Development.
Moved.

Question about ROOT access?

I figured, I would get the best response here... If you ROOT an Android phone, will downloading OTA updates through your phone brick it? I read an article about the new OTA for the EVO and it will brick rooted devices.

Misinformation. It would brick it if you applied it twice in sequence, not if you were rooted. You need the stock recovery to apply updates anyway, if you do get one it will not harm the phone because it can't be applied.

In the thread when the final OTA was coming out, lots of people that were rooted, said they installed it, it worked fine, but they lost root. So then they have to obtain root again.
So, I'd assume it would work fine if everything else was stock... you just might loose root.

So your saying, that if I were to install an OTA update through a rooted Android device running stock firmware, it would go through successfully without bricking it. But, if I ran the update a second time it would brick it. Correct?

If you're on a rooted stock rom, assuming you haven't flashed a custom recovery, the phone's recovery utility will not allow you to flash an OTA update because of a signature mismatch. I'm not sure what happened with the evo, but I don't believe it can happen with the nexus.

Okay, thanks? But I would still like some more input on this situation.

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PurpleLlamaLover said:
Okay, thanks? But I would still like some more input on this situation.
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If your not rooted you can still flash OTA update leaks, there are plenty out there. If you want custom roms then you have to root. The stock recovery only flashes stock updates, not rooted updates. If your not getting it by reading the forums, then I suggest you stay on stock, and wait for OTA update.

efishta said:
If you're on a rooted stock rom, assuming you haven't flashed a custom recovery, the phone's recovery utility will not allow you to flash an OTA update because of a signature mismatch. I'm not sure what happened with the evo, but I don't believe it can happen with the nexus.
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No, this only happens with this specific update with the EVO.

Alright, great! Thanks guys. So since I believe the nexus one already got the offical OTA, did any of you lose ROOT access?

You WILL loose root when you update from an OTA update.

I had a rooted FRF50 and went to the FRF83 update and lost root/custom recovery, everything else was fine though.

I ask that you all forgiveth the newb nature of my question in advance, but if my phone has been rooted, and is currently running FRF50, is there anything I can do to the phone to have it automatically update using OTA? I ask because I received the notice for the OTA update the other day, but being rooted, got a signature mismatch error. (The only reason my phone is rooted is bc I bought it used that way-I wish I could've had it bone stock instead!) I know I can somehow do a manual update, but I'm trying to figure out for further future OTA updates if there's a way that I can have my phone simply automatically apply them.

Well, first off, thanks for hijacking.... AND, I have been doing a bunch of research. You should find the official build of froyo (FRF85B correct?) and manually update it. Just use it unrooted and it'll be easier when an OTA update comes along

[Q] System updates not working

Hi all,
My wife and I both got Bionic the same day. Mine is rooted and hers is not. I noticed on hers you can go to settings>about phone>system updates and check to see if there are any.
However on my rooted phone it allways says something to the effect of ...'not available at this time". If I turn on wifi and try, it will have the spinning logo like its checking and says its checking, but this goes on without end.
Any ideas? Does rooting somehow disable your ability to receive system updates?
Thanks!

Yes
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yes system updates are disabled typically on rooted devices because system updates may patch exploits that allowed the phone to be rooted meaning you may lose root permanately
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Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?

Issemann said:
Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
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NONONONO! The newest update isnt rootable yet!

Usually updates don't offer a big advantage anyways. I would research the update and make sure you really really really want to possibly lose root just to gain the advantage of whatever the update gives you.
9 times out of ten, I find the update to be pretty useless to even worry about.

AT&T Software update as of 7/9/15 - 146.75MB

Not sure what this is yet. Non rooted, stock image.
5.1.1?? Will report back...

Not 5.1.1
No idea as they haven't posted changelog, but hopefully a fix for MicroCell issues everyone is experiencing.
Let us know if you see any changes.

Update downloaded.
Real upgrade from OE2 to OF3. Thats all it says.

@Globalrebel where are you looking for change logs?
Update just finished. Yeah Android version is still 5.0.2. Baseband G925AUCU2AOF3 now.

Getting it now.

http://www.att.com/esupport/softwar...are&siteId=JAF5WzpxbKM-uxPru.0S4qk9EABb6wNW3Q
Change Log

Ssj237 said:
http://www.att.com/esupport/softwar...support/sharedSegments/supportViewService.jsp
Change Log
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Session timed out. Please use the back button, reload and try again.

That build date of june 18th piss anyone else off lol

veener79 said:
Session timed out. Please use the back button, reload and try again.
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Should be fix now

msfguard said:
That build date of june 18th piss anyone else off lol
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You mean since 5.1.1 was supposed to hit the S6's "in June?"
This is getting ridiculous, we need an update from 5.0.2, the memory issues I'm dealing with even on XtreStoLite are almost unbearable

Exactly and as updates for 5.1 come out for other carriers we get updates for random att crap that are almost a month old

It's sad to say that the latest AT&T OTA patches the export for ping pong root, don't take the OTA, because you cannot downgrade the Odin fails

dnp77 said:
It's sad to say that the latest AT&T OTA patches the export for ping pong root, don't take the OTA, because you cannot downgrade the Odin fails
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how you know? you ota it ?
i was "downloading" then saw your post. so i reboot my phone to cancel it.

netnerd said:
how you know? you ota it ?
i was "downloading" then saw your post. so i reboot my phone to cancel it.
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They know because it says on the Ping Pong Root thread not to update for anything past May 15th as the method for root has been patched

I'm curious if there are any other undocumented changes besides the 2 official changes listed earlier. It feels like a fairly big patch for a fix to an phone location and a kernel security fix.

Is there any hope, luck or signs of achieving root on this new firmware
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Wow, what a crappy push out by AT&T.
In any case, what process do i need to freeze in TB to stop my phone from trying to download and/or annoying me with that pop-up when it does happen?

aidanipod said:
Is there any hope, luck or signs of achieving root on this new firmware
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Please see just ONE post above yours........ we have just been talking about the exploit being patched
Globalrebel said:
Wow, what a crappy push out by AT&T.
In any case, what process do i need to freeze in TB to stop my phone from trying to download and/or annoying me with that pop-up when it does happen?
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AT&T Software Update is the main one, but there are a few others - I don't have an AT&T ROM on mine right now to help out, but it's been posted a few times already (I think I even posted those once)

Just freeze att software update. Then it can't even run so no downloads. I got lucky I clicked on update after reading it in Android central but didn't want to install it. Postponed couple of times but somehow it automatically loaded the update process. I was like sh#t. When it booted up it said a problem updating. And then I blocked the updater. My root almost gone lol
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saketkutta said:
Just freeze att software update. Then it can't even run so no downloads. I got lucky I clicked on update after reading it in Android central but didn't want to install it. Postponed couple of times but somehow it automatically loaded the update process. I was like sh#t. When it booted up it said a problem updating. And then I blocked the updater. My root almost gone lol
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Same thing happened to me being rooted. It just tried to install automatically. Woke up to my phone restarting but then I got the error "problem updating". I was pretty relieved on that error lol... :victory:

For those that have replaced your phones were you able to root new one?

Anyone?

thegameksk said:
Anyone?
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According to Slim, root is broken on the new update. They also changed the bootloader so you can't downgrade. They apparently want everyone to update to the new software.

fogame said:
According to Slim, root is broken on the new update. They also changed the bootloader so you can't downgrade. They apparently want everyone to update to the new software.
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Of course they do... they don't want folks rooting... Sammy knows what's up... if they were decent they'd give us a bootloader unlock to make up for rushing the devices to market to beat Apple on the release date (which is already cracked smh) and catch a few more percent of market share...
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I was able to root. You just can not take the new update, it will prevent root and will not be able to revert back to the old firmware..

galaxyuser88 said:
I was able to root. You just can not take the new update, it will prevent root and will not be able to revert back to the old firmware..
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For clarification,you were able to root a replacement note 7?
I read,somewhere, that the update starts when you power it on the first time. I am hoping to root mine immediately to avoid the update.

Mean Sixteen said:
For clarification,you were able to root a replacement note 7?
I read,somewhere, that the update starts when you power it on the first time. I am hoping to root mine immediately to avoid the update.
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Yes you are correct. The update starts to download when you power up the phone, but you can pause the download or postpone it for later install. This is what happened on my phone.

galaxyuser88 said:
Yes you are correct. The update starts to download when you power up the phone, but you can pause the download or postpone it for later install. This is what happened on my phone.
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Awesome thank you for clarifying.

Once I saw there was complete root with volte I went straight to download mode and did the process. Glad I didn't take the update because it blocks root and the sprint engineer rom.