Hi all,
My wife and I both got Bionic the same day. Mine is rooted and hers is not. I noticed on hers you can go to settings>about phone>system updates and check to see if there are any.
However on my rooted phone it allways says something to the effect of ...'not available at this time". If I turn on wifi and try, it will have the spinning logo like its checking and says its checking, but this goes on without end.
Any ideas? Does rooting somehow disable your ability to receive system updates?
Thanks!
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yes system updates are disabled typically on rooted devices because system updates may patch exploits that allowed the phone to be rooted meaning you may lose root permanately
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Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
Issemann said:
Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
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NONONONO! The newest update isnt rootable yet!
Usually updates don't offer a big advantage anyways. I would research the update and make sure you really really really want to possibly lose root just to gain the advantage of whatever the update gives you.
9 times out of ten, I find the update to be pretty useless to even worry about.
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I have a rooted NC with stock 1.1 firmware. Im just wondering what's gonna happen when the 1.2 update comes down? Will have to re-root it? If I do then I guess we'll have to wait until someone figures it out and produces a new boot image right? If so then I might not update until that's figured out.
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I have a rooted NC with stock 1.1 firmware. Im just wondering what's gonna happen when the 1.2 update comes down? Will have to re-root it? If I do then I guess we'll have to wait until someone figures it out and produces a new boot image right? If so then I might not update until that's figured out.
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If you don't do anything, it will update and break root and you will have to wait till that is rooted, HOWEVER! There are tutorials out there that have step-by-step on how to disable the updater, if that's what you want.
If I disable the updater, is it simple to re-enable later when the new rooting process has been figured out?
I would like to know also. Since the new update is supposed to come out by the end of the month I just thought I would keep WiFi off at all times until I researched the best solution.
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If you don't do anything, it will update and break root and you will have to wait till that is rooted, HOWEVER! There are tutorials out there that have step-by-step on how to disable the updater, if that's what you want.
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Will 3rd party Apps you've purchased still be present on the device and usable?
Apparently, you just have to rename /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip to /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip.bak
Some people seem to have still gotten updates after renaming though. It's a little vague and some of the info might be outdated. This could potentially throw a wrench in a lot of people's tablets.
Your purchased apps are stored by google. Yes they will still be there. I actually had purchased items from my phone show up on my book...quick download and good to go.
Now, after an update, you may lose them until it's rooted again...
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yeah, if you let the update go through, I can almost say for sure you'll lose access to the apps until you root again and probably redownload them)
To be safe get "Titanium Backup" and Purchase it's ProKey from the Market. Using it you can Batch Backup your Apps and App Data. Then if anything happens you can always Recover your Apps. (Batch Restore needs Pro Key)
For help using Titanium Backup read this Lifehacker article:
http://ca.lifehacker.com/5784857/how-to-set-up-a-fully-automated-app-and-settings-backup-on-android
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If i update it breaks root will I still be able to use the apps that don't require superuser? Meaning can I still use what apps are already in the Nook
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So I know being rooted and receiving OTAs isn't a problem, but I've read that having frozen apps can be. What happens if I/we get an OTA and an app is frozen? Does it fail gracefully or will I have a nice shiny paperweight as a result?Could we freeze/disable the update app/service until they push one out and we're ready for it?
Most likely the phone will reboot to do the update but will fail during the file system check. Your phone will then boot again and a message will pop up telling you the update has failed.
This is what happened with my D2. I would expect the same to apply to the D3.
Yes, your phone will refuse to take the update.
Nice. Sounds like it fails pretty gracefully.
Let's say your rooted but did not freeze or do anything at all will you still get a update. I've herd yes you can and no you can't. I can understand if you have froze or deleted things that you wont but if you didn't do a single thing except root that you might be able to get an update?
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If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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So having the update fail because of required frozen apps may be a good thing! It will prevent unroot and prevent a fix to the root exploit on your phone.. giving you time to come back to the forum and check for other users experience.. i love XDA...
I definitely want an update when one comes out to fix the camera a the cell standby. I have froze stuff but I will unfreeze them when an update comes out. But nice to know that I don't have to do any weird stuff to take an update. Now will we be able to root again.
mkultramega said:
If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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Honestly, it's best to just wait. The update might patch root exploits and be very hard to root. If you wait just a little bit, then the devs will release a rooted and flashable update. Well, when we have recovery, that is. But recovery shouldn't be too far off.
If fixing the camera and cell standby is more important than root, then you should proceed with the update. If you want to keep your root, do not update quite yet, as GoogleAndroid said. It just might patch the exploit.
I would like to have non blue pics that would be nice. My phone ran really good before I froze stuff its a bit faster now so I would take the update and im sure someone will root that if not im still a happy droid 3 owner.
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Hi! Does anyone have this problem? When I go to System Updates it gets me a message that reads "Check for update is not available at this time. Try again later". I know the update is not realease yet but I'm concerned that if something is wrong. I tried with 3g and Wifi and it's the same. I rooted my phone and uninstall some apps from Verizon. Could this be the problem?
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I know the update is not realease yet
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You just answered your own question.
Nope, I did'nt because on the other hand when I had a Motorola Droid 2 when I went to System Updates the message was different: "your device is updated, there's no other update available". What I meant is... The Droid 2 checks for updates even if aren't available, but the Droid 3 don't search, just says that it can't check.
Just wait a few moments and press check for update again, this usually checks properly, no idea why, mine does it too.
being rooted and especially missing some of the Verizon bloatware could certainly hamper your ability to update.
I also had this issue, multiple attempts to start the update immediately (and I mean no delay) came back with the same error.
I just manually ran the leaked OTA instead since it's been confirmed as the 'real deal'.
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Nope, I did'nt because on the other hand when I had a Motorola Droid 2 when I went to System Updates the message was different: "your device is updated, there's no other update available". What I meant is... The Droid 2 checks for updates even if aren't available, but the Droid 3 don't search, just says that it can't check.
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My D3 says, "You Device is up to Date! No update is necessary at this time."
I'm rooted and multiple bloat apps uninstalled(didn't know about Freezing prior).
I don't think it has anything to do with root. My girlfriends d3 isn't rooted and it tells her its up to date as well and our builds are the same. I think its verizon.
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Yeah same, mines rooted, multiple apps frozen, with the "leaked/soaked" OTA update, and it says "You Device is up to Date! No update is necessary at this time.".
While rooted and having bloat killed the phone should download the update. It will just fail to install, because the update checks for system changes.
Where exactly did someone confirm the ota is the same as the "leak"? OTA isn't out yet, so I want to read the confirmation info myself.
The last time I flashed a leak (htc eris) I was stuck on a leak while everyone who was patient received the final release version OTA. We didn't get access to the latest stuff until roughly a month after those who waited.
Just curious, don't want to make the same mistake twice. Lol.
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Benjamin150 said:
Yeah same, mines rooted, multiple apps frozen, with the "leaked/soaked" OTA update, and it says "You Device is up to Date! No update is necessary at this time.".
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Always unfreeze, just in case.
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First sentence http://support.vzw.com/pdf/system_update/droid_3.pdf
I just got an update notification on my rooted note 3. Last time this happened it eventually just decided to update all by itself without my intervention. Will root keeper or the superuser ota saver save my root?
Will the update even go through this time around with a rooted phone?
Thanks.
brfitzp said:
I just got an update notification on my rooted note 3. Last time this happened it eventually just decided to update all by itself without my intervention. Will root keeper or the superuser ota saver save my root?
Will the update even go through this time around with a rooted phone?
Thanks.
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If youre rooted it the update will fail
frome901 said:
If youre rooted it the update will fail
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That's actually not true. I got the update even though I was rooted, and so did half the people on this forum. No disrespect.
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lildoggs said:
That's actually not true. I got the update even though I was rooted, and so did half the people on this forum. No disrespect.
I guess i should have said im kingo rooted stock with some uninstalled/modified system apps and the update fails at 25% on my device.. Some people have not done as much with their devices as i have..
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Follow the instruction and rename those files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856632
Then use Titanium Backup to freeze AT&T Software update. I've done those two things and so far I have not received any update notifications.
So 5.1.1 for the att Samsung galaxy s6 has finally been released! Now I do hope the memory leak issue will get addressed in this build, but I am wondering if we should avoid updating to it if we are rooted? I wonder how long it will take for our custom roms to update to this.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-s6-edge-received-android-511-update-att
Well I hope someone puts up a .tar file for us to flash this instead of relying on the OTA. I jut do not like OTA updates. Something always seems to go wrong
Never had a issue when plugged in with wifi. Never DL walking around and still using phone. That is why everyone has a problem. Not sure if your case but throwing it out there.
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I just can't get the update at all. It's not showing up.
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Over WIFI? Nothing? I was just release so maybe it's a rolling release. Hmmm
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Yeah even wifi. I changed the date multiple times still nothing. Just depressing. I bought the device straight out so the locked bootloader is sad enough but making the updates ota only is just crazy.
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Unfortunately S6 active isn't mentioned anywhere
Hope that the update comes out for s6 active soon and someone provide with a .tar file flashing with Odin
Been trying to update my wife's phone since last night and everytime it says that the update failed. I have tried 3 times and no luck.
Enable all the apps you previously disabled. Set the time forward and try again.
jrodsep said:
Been trying to update my wife's phone since last night and everytime it says that the update failed. I have tried 3 times and no luck.
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Same thing. Haven't tried with disabled apps enabled yet though.
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Enable all the apps you previously disabled. Set the time forward and try again.
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How can I check that? Where do I need to look at to see if she has disabled by accident something? Thanks in advance
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How can I check that? Where do I need to look at to see if she has disabled by accident something? Thanks in advance
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Settings -> Applications -> Disabled
Installing now - let's see how bad AT&T cocked up the update.
I have no apps disabled, non rooted, and still am getting install failed.
I did uninstall some apps when I first got the phone. Could that be causing the failed update?
Successfully updated to 5.1.1.. Seems a bit smoother but other than that, nothing big..checked if they added any sort of shutter control..nope
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Has anyone tried to run older root methods yet to see if anything works? Sometimes with new OTAs, previous exploits are overlooked.
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The memory management is sooo much better. Flipboard stays open on all day now
I think Ive seen it somewhere but cant seem to find it. Is there a wayto unroot or flash din files to take the 5.1.1 update. I am currently rooted and used flash fire to get to OF3. Can I just odin the oe2 files and take the update?
Does it have better performance than one of those ultra lite rom's? I am considering of getting off of my custom rom so I can take this update.