So I know being rooted and receiving OTAs isn't a problem, but I've read that having frozen apps can be. What happens if I/we get an OTA and an app is frozen? Does it fail gracefully or will I have a nice shiny paperweight as a result?Could we freeze/disable the update app/service until they push one out and we're ready for it?
Most likely the phone will reboot to do the update but will fail during the file system check. Your phone will then boot again and a message will pop up telling you the update has failed.
This is what happened with my D2. I would expect the same to apply to the D3.
Yes, your phone will refuse to take the update.
Nice. Sounds like it fails pretty gracefully.
Let's say your rooted but did not freeze or do anything at all will you still get a update. I've herd yes you can and no you can't. I can understand if you have froze or deleted things that you wont but if you didn't do a single thing except root that you might be able to get an update?
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If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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So having the update fail because of required frozen apps may be a good thing! It will prevent unroot and prevent a fix to the root exploit on your phone.. giving you time to come back to the forum and check for other users experience.. i love XDA...
I definitely want an update when one comes out to fix the camera a the cell standby. I have froze stuff but I will unfreeze them when an update comes out. But nice to know that I don't have to do any weird stuff to take an update. Now will we be able to root again.
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If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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Honestly, it's best to just wait. The update might patch root exploits and be very hard to root. If you wait just a little bit, then the devs will release a rooted and flashable update. Well, when we have recovery, that is. But recovery shouldn't be too far off.
If fixing the camera and cell standby is more important than root, then you should proceed with the update. If you want to keep your root, do not update quite yet, as GoogleAndroid said. It just might patch the exploit.
I would like to have non blue pics that would be nice. My phone ran really good before I froze stuff its a bit faster now so I would take the update and im sure someone will root that if not im still a happy droid 3 owner.
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I have a rooted NC with stock 1.1 firmware. Im just wondering what's gonna happen when the 1.2 update comes down? Will have to re-root it? If I do then I guess we'll have to wait until someone figures it out and produces a new boot image right? If so then I might not update until that's figured out.
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I have a rooted NC with stock 1.1 firmware. Im just wondering what's gonna happen when the 1.2 update comes down? Will have to re-root it? If I do then I guess we'll have to wait until someone figures it out and produces a new boot image right? If so then I might not update until that's figured out.
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If you don't do anything, it will update and break root and you will have to wait till that is rooted, HOWEVER! There are tutorials out there that have step-by-step on how to disable the updater, if that's what you want.
If I disable the updater, is it simple to re-enable later when the new rooting process has been figured out?
I would like to know also. Since the new update is supposed to come out by the end of the month I just thought I would keep WiFi off at all times until I researched the best solution.
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If you don't do anything, it will update and break root and you will have to wait till that is rooted, HOWEVER! There are tutorials out there that have step-by-step on how to disable the updater, if that's what you want.
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Will 3rd party Apps you've purchased still be present on the device and usable?
Apparently, you just have to rename /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip to /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip.bak
Some people seem to have still gotten updates after renaming though. It's a little vague and some of the info might be outdated. This could potentially throw a wrench in a lot of people's tablets.
Your purchased apps are stored by google. Yes they will still be there. I actually had purchased items from my phone show up on my book...quick download and good to go.
Now, after an update, you may lose them until it's rooted again...
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yeah, if you let the update go through, I can almost say for sure you'll lose access to the apps until you root again and probably redownload them)
To be safe get "Titanium Backup" and Purchase it's ProKey from the Market. Using it you can Batch Backup your Apps and App Data. Then if anything happens you can always Recover your Apps. (Batch Restore needs Pro Key)
For help using Titanium Backup read this Lifehacker article:
http://ca.lifehacker.com/5784857/how-to-set-up-a-fully-automated-app-and-settings-backup-on-android
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If i update it breaks root will I still be able to use the apps that don't require superuser? Meaning can I still use what apps are already in the Nook
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Hi all,
My wife and I both got Bionic the same day. Mine is rooted and hers is not. I noticed on hers you can go to settings>about phone>system updates and check to see if there are any.
However on my rooted phone it allways says something to the effect of ...'not available at this time". If I turn on wifi and try, it will have the spinning logo like its checking and says its checking, but this goes on without end.
Any ideas? Does rooting somehow disable your ability to receive system updates?
Thanks!
Yes
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yes system updates are disabled typically on rooted devices because system updates may patch exploits that allowed the phone to be rooted meaning you may lose root permanately
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Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
Issemann said:
Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
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NONONONO! The newest update isnt rootable yet!
Usually updates don't offer a big advantage anyways. I would research the update and make sure you really really really want to possibly lose root just to gain the advantage of whatever the update gives you.
9 times out of ten, I find the update to be pretty useless to even worry about.
So I just got a notification from ATT saying that there is a software update available. Has anyone else gotten this and installed it? Is it jelly bean or a minor update? I haven't tried it myself because I am rooted.
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So I just got a notification from ATT saying that there is a software update available. Has anyone else gotten this and installed it? Is it jelly bean or a minor update? I haven't tried it myself because I am rooted.
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Yes just got it I'm Rooted & S-OFF
it won't be jelly bean since the ONE X series doesn't have it yet haha just a minor I bet
Can someone detail this update?
*Edit* Called AT&T the Update was released October 9th it an 13mb update so yea Minor the girl
on the phone was talking to fast for me to listen what it offers
Got it last night. Android version did not change. Couldn't tell for sure if any other numbers updated. It wouldn't kill AT&T to send out an e-mail or text message telling us what the update was for.
got the same thing i have no idea what is the update
Update has my phone stuck in a darn boot loop..any idea what it is?
Sorry bludiamond.
Since my phone is rooted, I did not want to install this update. It's quite upsetting that AT&T forces the update unconditionally.
Anyway, I had let the download to complete, but did not let it to install. The update did prompt me, whether I want it to install now, or later. I had opted for later.
Then, after some Googling, I had deleted the download (from /sdcard/Download), and had un-installed the following services: com.htc.demoflopackageinstaller and com.smithmicro.dm.
Then, I've rebooted the phone. Afterwards, the phone still had a notification, that there's an update ready to be installed. When, selecting the notification, updater did realize that the downloaded file is gone, and had prompted me whether or not I'd like to download the update again, on which, I had responded no. The notification is gone, and AT&T did not prompt me to download and install the update again, at least not yet.
My phone seems to be OK.
I was hoping for a new Radio/RIL. That's not what this is...
New Kernel & Recovery. If you are rooted and on a custom rom Do Not run the update. I'm sure the developer of the rom you are on will work to add anything useful to future updates.
The dates on these files is 7/27/12 so it took At$t over to months to test & release.
To delete it look in /cache/fota/OTAPkg.zip
Once gone you shouldn't be bothered by it anymore.
Have anyone successfuly downloaded and installed it?
What's new? Bluetooth bugs fixes? Usable Voice Dialer? Better battery life?
Sense 4.0?
Please comment.
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gattech said:
Have anyone successfuly downloaded and installed it?
What's new? Bluetooth bugs fixes? Usable Voice Dialer? Better battery life?
Sense 4.0?
Please comment.
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Think the majority of users on here are rooted and running custom roms so they wouldnt' be installing this.
I forgot I was unlocked and rooted. Now I am really stuck. How do I get out of the dead Android loop?
I googled the update, and found this on the ATT Support website.
Beginning on October 9, 2012, AT&T and HTC have released an additional software update for the HTC Vivid that will be available via firmware over-the-air (FOTA). This 13MB software package updates the firmware version to 3.26.502.56_R23 and improves sensor performance.
NOTE: Customers must have a data SOC in order to obtain any FOTA updates. Customers who have a data opt-out SOC are not able to receive FOTA updates.
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Think the majority of users on here are rooted and running custom roms so they wouldnt' be installing this.
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Hmmm....
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For the users in boot loop I just recovered from it. Boot into cwm and clear the cache a couple of times and reboot.
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For the users in boot loop I just recovered from it. Boot into cwm and clear the cache a couple of times and reboot.
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This Fix works. My phone no longer boot loops
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Sorry bludiamond.
Since my phone is rooted, I did not want to install this update. It's quite upsetting that AT&T forces the update unconditionally.
Anyway, I had let the download to complete, but did not let it to install. The update did prompt me, whether I want it to install now, or later. I had opted for later.
Then, after some Googling, I had deleted the download (from /sdcard/Download), and had un-installed the following services: com.htc.demoflopackageinstaller and com.smithmicro.dm.
Then, I've rebooted the phone. Afterwards, the phone still had a notification, that there's an update ready to be installed. When, selecting the notification, updater did realize that the downloaded file is gone, and had prompted me whether or not I'd like to download the update again, on which, I had responded no. The notification is gone, and AT&T did not prompt me to download and install the update again, at least not yet.
My phone seems to be OK.
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After getting my phone out of the boot loop I tried this and am no longer prompted to update. Thank you for the help
Apatche69 said:
This Fix works. My phone no longer boot loops
After getting my phone out of the boot loop I tried this and am no longer prompted to update. Thank you for the help
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I had the looping issue too. I cleared the cache once and rebooted. Received a message that there was a problem with the update and to wait for the next update. Phone seems to be okay since.
I'm unlocked s/on..no custom rom..it was so early, I must have hit the wrong button, so I'm stuck in the loop and can't seem to get into recovery either..ugh
I'm stock - not rooted. I did do the download without any problems, although you do have to manually reboot after the update.
It supposedly improves the sensor. Not sure what that means, but that's what the ATT website says. Other than it changing my default ringtone, I don't see any difference.
Could not get it out of the loop. Took it to the service center and neither could they..they ended up replacing it under warranty..thank goodness. Said that another lady came in with the same issue as well.
AT&T Upgrade to Nowhere
I'm running stock on the HTC Vivid and got this upgrade pushed out by AT&T. This is the second AT&T upgrade I've done on this phone (the first was to ICS not long after I got the phone).
I ran the update yesterday, which force rebooted my phone and I watched as the upgrade downloaded and installed, then came back up.
NOTHING has changed. I don't know what AT&T supposedly upgraded, but it's certainly nothing noticeable.
I didn't even get the "3.26.502.56_R23" software designation that the AT&T help article says I was supposed to see.
It was literally an upgrade to nowhere. Not sure why I wasted time off the grid and battery power on it.
As usual-- AT&T fail.
At least no harm was done.
I was rooted, stock ROM, and got the notification yesterday. I postponed as much as I could but it finally wouldn't let me anymore and I let it try to update.
Of course, went into a boot loop. I did eventually get the boot looping to stop by reflashing the wxc recovery image and CWM-root, but then my wifi wouldn't work. I suspected some difference in the kernel version or some other borking of the update.
Long story short, I had to re-lock, go back to stock, and re-unlock and root again. Then spend the time (ongoing) to get my environment back. Thank goodness for Titanium backup pro and Dropbox. LOL.
Wish I could bill AT&T for the 18 hours I've spent. And if they push it to me again, I'll be irritated.
Now that root has been achieved, I want to be sure to keep it. So, to prevent Moto from patching/removing root, how should I go about preventing my phone from downloading any updates Moto will surely push out? Until I know they are root-safe at least.
I believe that we are all going to have to wait a couple more days as they continue to work on the root process. Right now we cannot write to the system partition. And whatever it is that you need to freeze is on that partition. So they plan on releasing an update soon that will address that.
Ah ok that makes a lot of sense.
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I believe that we are all going to have to wait a couple more days as they continue to work on the root process. Right now we cannot write to the system partition. And whatever it is that you need to freeze is on that partition. So they plan on releasing an update soon that will address that.
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We can freeze stuff in /system. I've already gone through and frozen a whole ton of crap. Not sure off the top of my head what we need to freeze to prevent OTAs, but it can be done with our current root situation.
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We can freeze stuff in /system. I've already gone through and frozen a whole ton of crap. Not sure off the top of my head what we need to freeze to prevent OTAs, but it can be done with our current root situation.
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I froze the app called something OTA. Assuming that works. Don't we usually have to OK an OTA install anyways? They don't just happen without consent do they?
rmead01 said:
I froze the app called something OTA. Assuming that works. Don't we usually have to OK an OTA install anyways? They don't just happen without consent do they?
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Depends on the method of root, they could patch the app or process that allows the exploit....
For this reason alone, I uninstalled root for now. I'd rather wait until jcase puts together a completed permanent root and sorts out most of the major issues.
Just make a change to the /system partition. Then ota will fail. Or just select no if they ever pop up ?
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Any updates on this? Would freezing the OTA app work or is there some other process?
I just got an update notification on my rooted note 3. Last time this happened it eventually just decided to update all by itself without my intervention. Will root keeper or the superuser ota saver save my root?
Will the update even go through this time around with a rooted phone?
Thanks.
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I just got an update notification on my rooted note 3. Last time this happened it eventually just decided to update all by itself without my intervention. Will root keeper or the superuser ota saver save my root?
Will the update even go through this time around with a rooted phone?
Thanks.
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If youre rooted it the update will fail
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If youre rooted it the update will fail
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That's actually not true. I got the update even though I was rooted, and so did half the people on this forum. No disrespect.
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That's actually not true. I got the update even though I was rooted, and so did half the people on this forum. No disrespect.
I guess i should have said im kingo rooted stock with some uninstalled/modified system apps and the update fails at 25% on my device.. Some people have not done as much with their devices as i have..
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Follow the instruction and rename those files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856632
Then use Titanium Backup to freeze AT&T Software update. I've done those two things and so far I have not received any update notifications.