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[Q] I'm rooted and frozen...now what about OTAs?

So I know being rooted and receiving OTAs isn't a problem, but I've read that having frozen apps can be. What happens if I/we get an OTA and an app is frozen? Does it fail gracefully or will I have a nice shiny paperweight as a result?Could we freeze/disable the update app/service until they push one out and we're ready for it?

Most likely the phone will reboot to do the update but will fail during the file system check. Your phone will then boot again and a message will pop up telling you the update has failed.
This is what happened with my D2. I would expect the same to apply to the D3.

Yes, your phone will refuse to take the update.

Nice. Sounds like it fails pretty gracefully.

Let's say your rooted but did not freeze or do anything at all will you still get a update. I've herd yes you can and no you can't. I can understand if you have froze or deleted things that you wont but if you didn't do a single thing except root that you might be able to get an update?
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If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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So having the update fail because of required frozen apps may be a good thing! It will prevent unroot and prevent a fix to the root exploit on your phone.. giving you time to come back to the forum and check for other users experience.. i love XDA...

I definitely want an update when one comes out to fix the camera a the cell standby. I have froze stuff but I will unfreeze them when an update comes out. But nice to know that I don't have to do any weird stuff to take an update. Now will we be able to root again.
mkultramega said:
If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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Honestly, it's best to just wait. The update might patch root exploits and be very hard to root. If you wait just a little bit, then the devs will release a rooted and flashable update. Well, when we have recovery, that is. But recovery shouldn't be too far off.

If fixing the camera and cell standby is more important than root, then you should proceed with the update. If you want to keep your root, do not update quite yet, as GoogleAndroid said. It just might patch the exploit.

I would like to have non blue pics that would be nice. My phone ran really good before I froze stuff its a bit faster now so I would take the update and im sure someone will root that if not im still a happy droid 3 owner.
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[Q] System updates not working

Hi all,
My wife and I both got Bionic the same day. Mine is rooted and hers is not. I noticed on hers you can go to settings>about phone>system updates and check to see if there are any.
However on my rooted phone it allways says something to the effect of ...'not available at this time". If I turn on wifi and try, it will have the spinning logo like its checking and says its checking, but this goes on without end.
Any ideas? Does rooting somehow disable your ability to receive system updates?
Thanks!

Yes
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yes system updates are disabled typically on rooted devices because system updates may patch exploits that allowed the phone to be rooted meaning you may lose root permanately
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Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?

Issemann said:
Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
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NONONONO! The newest update isnt rootable yet!

Usually updates don't offer a big advantage anyways. I would research the update and make sure you really really really want to possibly lose root just to gain the advantage of whatever the update gives you.
9 times out of ten, I find the update to be pretty useless to even worry about.

Root in 30 seconds - GT-I9295

I finally got the KitKat update last week. I tried rooting by the Towelroot method and.. Bingo! Took less than 30 seconds and I now have root. Could not be easier
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liquidguru said:
I finally got the KitKat update last week. I tried rooting by the Towelroot method and.. Bingo! Took less than 30 seconds and I now have root. Could not be easier
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ah, you mean for the USA-only, AT&T proprietary, locked bootloader-version (i537)?

Vattu said:
ah, you mean for the USA-only, AT&T proprietary, locked bootloader-version (i537)?
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No, I mean the unlocked i9295 bought in Singapore version...
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liquidguru said:
I finally got the KitKat update last week. I tried rooting by the Towelroot method and.. Bingo! Took less than 30 seconds and I now have root. Could not be easier
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Hi do you know what is the date of the update? As I have the update after the 6th June and I read somewhere that towelroot won't run on update after the 6th June 2014.
One more thing what about knox warranty void?
Thanks in advance for your help

Ultiweap said:
Hi do you know what is the date of the update? As I have the update after the 6th June and I read somewhere that towelroot won't run on update after the 6th June 2014.
One more thing what about knox warranty void?
Thanks in advance for your help
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I can't remember exactly when the update came through, but it was definitely in the last two weeks, so after 6th June. Root went without any hitch.
My Knox says 0x0
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liquidguru said:
I can't remember exactly when the update came through, but it was definitely in the last two weeks, so after 6th June. Root went without any hitch.
My Knox says 0x0
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Hi thanks a lot for your help( Thanks buttons hitted ) just Root my phone all went good except to update binary for SuperSU but after a reboot all is good. Know is still 0x0 im happy. Now I can remove all there bloatware
I would like to know something should I need to disable OTA Updates? If yes how to do it?

Ultiweap said:
Hi thanks a lot for your help( Thanks buttons hitted ) just Root my phone all went good except to update binary for SuperSU but after a reboot all is good. Know is still 0x0 im happy. Now I can remove all there bloatware
I would like to know something should I need to disable OTA Updates? If yes how to do it?
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Your welcome. I wouldn't bother disabling OTA if you are running a stock ROM. If an update comes then just try uninstalling the root app, run the update then root again. Then you can stay updated.
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Thanks!. Its working on my S4 Active. After rooting I install Supersu an he ask me if i want to disable KNOX. i Cancel it an su its working good.

S4 Active not working
Hey,
My S4 Active GT-I9295 [4.4.2] could not be "towelroot"ed. I get "This phone isn't currently supported". I also tried the Samsung modstring. No success. :crying:
Andrew

ReRoot possible. On 4.4.4, installed update, lost root.

I meant reroot possible? It was a question. Accidentally out a period on the end.
Newbie mistakenly installed update and lost root.
I was already on 4.4.4 rooted. Received an update notification from AT&T. I pressed on update. Everything came back up but lost root. I'm I able to root without going back to 4.4.2?
Thanks in advance.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the only way to root 4.4.4 is to go back to 4.4.2 and then follow the 4.4.4 root upgrade guide posted in I believe the general section it's actually pretty easy but does make it harder to use safestrap if you use that very often.

It's easy but unfortunately to resetup my phone is very time consuming.
I spent a lot of time removing apps, adding apps and configuring.
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This is your only option(at this time) for root on 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/how-to-root-n900aucudnl1-4-4-4-12-24-t2983357

kangi26 said:
This is your only option(at this time) for root on 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/how-to-root-n900aucudnl1-4-4-4-12-24-t2983357
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Thanks. That's the procedure I used to get my phone rooted to 4.4.4. Like I mention, I was already rooted with 4.4.4 and installed a OTA update which unrooted my phone. At the moment, it sounds like I have to lose all the work I've done on my phone and start over unless I'm missing something.

AT&T Software update as of 7/9/15 - 146.75MB

Not sure what this is yet. Non rooted, stock image.
5.1.1?? Will report back...

Not 5.1.1
No idea as they haven't posted changelog, but hopefully a fix for MicroCell issues everyone is experiencing.
Let us know if you see any changes.

Update downloaded.
Real upgrade from OE2 to OF3. Thats all it says.

@Globalrebel where are you looking for change logs?
Update just finished. Yeah Android version is still 5.0.2. Baseband G925AUCU2AOF3 now.

Getting it now.

http://www.att.com/esupport/softwar...are&siteId=JAF5WzpxbKM-uxPru.0S4qk9EABb6wNW3Q
Change Log

Ssj237 said:
http://www.att.com/esupport/softwar...support/sharedSegments/supportViewService.jsp
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Session timed out. Please use the back button, reload and try again.

That build date of june 18th piss anyone else off lol

veener79 said:
Session timed out. Please use the back button, reload and try again.
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Should be fix now

msfguard said:
That build date of june 18th piss anyone else off lol
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You mean since 5.1.1 was supposed to hit the S6's "in June?"
This is getting ridiculous, we need an update from 5.0.2, the memory issues I'm dealing with even on XtreStoLite are almost unbearable

Exactly and as updates for 5.1 come out for other carriers we get updates for random att crap that are almost a month old

It's sad to say that the latest AT&T OTA patches the export for ping pong root, don't take the OTA, because you cannot downgrade the Odin fails

dnp77 said:
It's sad to say that the latest AT&T OTA patches the export for ping pong root, don't take the OTA, because you cannot downgrade the Odin fails
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how you know? you ota it ?
i was "downloading" then saw your post. so i reboot my phone to cancel it.

netnerd said:
how you know? you ota it ?
i was "downloading" then saw your post. so i reboot my phone to cancel it.
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They know because it says on the Ping Pong Root thread not to update for anything past May 15th as the method for root has been patched

I'm curious if there are any other undocumented changes besides the 2 official changes listed earlier. It feels like a fairly big patch for a fix to an phone location and a kernel security fix.

Is there any hope, luck or signs of achieving root on this new firmware
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Wow, what a crappy push out by AT&T.
In any case, what process do i need to freeze in TB to stop my phone from trying to download and/or annoying me with that pop-up when it does happen?

aidanipod said:
Is there any hope, luck or signs of achieving root on this new firmware
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Please see just ONE post above yours........ we have just been talking about the exploit being patched
Globalrebel said:
Wow, what a crappy push out by AT&T.
In any case, what process do i need to freeze in TB to stop my phone from trying to download and/or annoying me with that pop-up when it does happen?
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AT&T Software Update is the main one, but there are a few others - I don't have an AT&T ROM on mine right now to help out, but it's been posted a few times already (I think I even posted those once)

Just freeze att software update. Then it can't even run so no downloads. I got lucky I clicked on update after reading it in Android central but didn't want to install it. Postponed couple of times but somehow it automatically loaded the update process. I was like sh#t. When it booted up it said a problem updating. And then I blocked the updater. My root almost gone lol
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saketkutta said:
Just freeze att software update. Then it can't even run so no downloads. I got lucky I clicked on update after reading it in Android central but didn't want to install it. Postponed couple of times but somehow it automatically loaded the update process. I was like sh#t. When it booted up it said a problem updating. And then I blocked the updater. My root almost gone lol
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Same thing happened to me being rooted. It just tried to install automatically. Woke up to my phone restarting but then I got the error "problem updating". I was pretty relieved on that error lol... :victory: