Now that root has been achieved, I want to be sure to keep it. So, to prevent Moto from patching/removing root, how should I go about preventing my phone from downloading any updates Moto will surely push out? Until I know they are root-safe at least.
I believe that we are all going to have to wait a couple more days as they continue to work on the root process. Right now we cannot write to the system partition. And whatever it is that you need to freeze is on that partition. So they plan on releasing an update soon that will address that.
Ah ok that makes a lot of sense.
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I believe that we are all going to have to wait a couple more days as they continue to work on the root process. Right now we cannot write to the system partition. And whatever it is that you need to freeze is on that partition. So they plan on releasing an update soon that will address that.
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We can freeze stuff in /system. I've already gone through and frozen a whole ton of crap. Not sure off the top of my head what we need to freeze to prevent OTAs, but it can be done with our current root situation.
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We can freeze stuff in /system. I've already gone through and frozen a whole ton of crap. Not sure off the top of my head what we need to freeze to prevent OTAs, but it can be done with our current root situation.
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I froze the app called something OTA. Assuming that works. Don't we usually have to OK an OTA install anyways? They don't just happen without consent do they?
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I froze the app called something OTA. Assuming that works. Don't we usually have to OK an OTA install anyways? They don't just happen without consent do they?
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Depends on the method of root, they could patch the app or process that allows the exploit....
For this reason alone, I uninstalled root for now. I'd rather wait until jcase puts together a completed permanent root and sorts out most of the major issues.
Just make a change to the /system partition. Then ota will fail. Or just select no if they ever pop up ?
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Any updates on this? Would freezing the OTA app work or is there some other process?
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So I know being rooted and receiving OTAs isn't a problem, but I've read that having frozen apps can be. What happens if I/we get an OTA and an app is frozen? Does it fail gracefully or will I have a nice shiny paperweight as a result?Could we freeze/disable the update app/service until they push one out and we're ready for it?
Most likely the phone will reboot to do the update but will fail during the file system check. Your phone will then boot again and a message will pop up telling you the update has failed.
This is what happened with my D2. I would expect the same to apply to the D3.
Yes, your phone will refuse to take the update.
Nice. Sounds like it fails pretty gracefully.
Let's say your rooted but did not freeze or do anything at all will you still get a update. I've herd yes you can and no you can't. I can understand if you have froze or deleted things that you wont but if you didn't do a single thing except root that you might be able to get an update?
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If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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So having the update fail because of required frozen apps may be a good thing! It will prevent unroot and prevent a fix to the root exploit on your phone.. giving you time to come back to the forum and check for other users experience.. i love XDA...
I definitely want an update when one comes out to fix the camera a the cell standby. I have froze stuff but I will unfreeze them when an update comes out. But nice to know that I don't have to do any weird stuff to take an update. Now will we be able to root again.
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If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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Honestly, it's best to just wait. The update might patch root exploits and be very hard to root. If you wait just a little bit, then the devs will release a rooted and flashable update. Well, when we have recovery, that is. But recovery shouldn't be too far off.
If fixing the camera and cell standby is more important than root, then you should proceed with the update. If you want to keep your root, do not update quite yet, as GoogleAndroid said. It just might patch the exploit.
I would like to have non blue pics that would be nice. My phone ran really good before I froze stuff its a bit faster now so I would take the update and im sure someone will root that if not im still a happy droid 3 owner.
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Hi all,
My wife and I both got Bionic the same day. Mine is rooted and hers is not. I noticed on hers you can go to settings>about phone>system updates and check to see if there are any.
However on my rooted phone it allways says something to the effect of ...'not available at this time". If I turn on wifi and try, it will have the spinning logo like its checking and says its checking, but this goes on without end.
Any ideas? Does rooting somehow disable your ability to receive system updates?
Thanks!
Yes
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yes system updates are disabled typically on rooted devices because system updates may patch exploits that allowed the phone to be rooted meaning you may lose root permanately
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Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
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Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
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NONONONO! The newest update isnt rootable yet!
Usually updates don't offer a big advantage anyways. I would research the update and make sure you really really really want to possibly lose root just to gain the advantage of whatever the update gives you.
9 times out of ten, I find the update to be pretty useless to even worry about.
Okay, when I got my N 6 I mediately rooted and decrypted it. I did not take the OTA update. However, the alert keeps popping up. How do I remove it? It appears the OTA downloads location is different in lollipop and Nexus 6. I also cannot use Titanium Backup to freeze it or has the file name changed.
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OK I finally found where the downloaded file resides but I don't know what to freeze in titanium as file naming has changed. There is no system updates app/file to freeze.
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May I ask on why you're not willing to accept the OTA?
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May I ask on why you're not willing to accept the OTA?
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I have custom recovery and am decrypted. Therefore, it won't install as well. Moreover, am not even sure what the OTA is all about. I just want to freeze any OTA notification.
It is trying to update to LRX21O
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I have custom recovery and am decrypted. Therefore, it won't install as well. Moreover, am not even sure what the OTA is all about. I just want to freeze any OTA notification.
It is trying to update to LRX21O
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The OTA contains bug fixes and whatnot. I recommend you just starting from scratch and accepting the OTA because its not like you plan on being on the first Lollipop build and staying on it forever. Its inevitable pretty much, yeah it isn't convenient but thats just how it is. Either that or flash a custom ROM.
The OTA is failing because you performed system modifications to /system/
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The OTA contains bug fixes and whatnot. I recommend you just starting from scratch and accepting the OTA because its not like you plan on being on the first Lollipop build and staying on it forever. Its inevitable pretty much, yeah it isn't convenient but thats just how it is. Either that or flash a custom ROM.
The OTA is failing because you performed system modifications to /system/
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I understand why it is failing: have been flashing for years. I wanted to freeze like I used to. Also there are issues with the current Roms as all things aren't working yet or are having issues (hdr cam, Google play movies, etc.) as devs get up to speed.
I also thought someone would have created a zip of the OTA for those who flash via custom recovery.
Yes, I can start all over as you say but I've got everything set up and humming along perfectly since day one... except for that damn OTA notification.
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May I ask on why you're not willing to accept the OTA?
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OK you won. Spent over an hour or so wiping and reflashing factory image, decrypted image, root, twrp, and apps. No more OTA nag.
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You could have used any file explorer and added ".bak" without the quotes to the end of the filename.
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Am very sorry now I flashed the newest image: battery life went to hell. Not even near what I was getting on the out of the box pre-ota. ;(
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So 5.1.1 for the att Samsung galaxy s6 has finally been released! Now I do hope the memory leak issue will get addressed in this build, but I am wondering if we should avoid updating to it if we are rooted? I wonder how long it will take for our custom roms to update to this.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-s6-edge-received-android-511-update-att
Well I hope someone puts up a .tar file for us to flash this instead of relying on the OTA. I jut do not like OTA updates. Something always seems to go wrong
Never had a issue when plugged in with wifi. Never DL walking around and still using phone. That is why everyone has a problem. Not sure if your case but throwing it out there.
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I just can't get the update at all. It's not showing up.
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Over WIFI? Nothing? I was just release so maybe it's a rolling release. Hmmm
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Yeah even wifi. I changed the date multiple times still nothing. Just depressing. I bought the device straight out so the locked bootloader is sad enough but making the updates ota only is just crazy.
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Unfortunately S6 active isn't mentioned anywhere
Hope that the update comes out for s6 active soon and someone provide with a .tar file flashing with Odin
Been trying to update my wife's phone since last night and everytime it says that the update failed. I have tried 3 times and no luck.
Enable all the apps you previously disabled. Set the time forward and try again.
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Been trying to update my wife's phone since last night and everytime it says that the update failed. I have tried 3 times and no luck.
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Same thing. Haven't tried with disabled apps enabled yet though.
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Enable all the apps you previously disabled. Set the time forward and try again.
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How can I check that? Where do I need to look at to see if she has disabled by accident something? Thanks in advance
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How can I check that? Where do I need to look at to see if she has disabled by accident something? Thanks in advance
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Settings -> Applications -> Disabled
Installing now - let's see how bad AT&T cocked up the update.
I have no apps disabled, non rooted, and still am getting install failed.
I did uninstall some apps when I first got the phone. Could that be causing the failed update?
Successfully updated to 5.1.1.. Seems a bit smoother but other than that, nothing big..checked if they added any sort of shutter control..nope
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Has anyone tried to run older root methods yet to see if anything works? Sometimes with new OTAs, previous exploits are overlooked.
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The memory management is sooo much better. Flipboard stays open on all day now
I think Ive seen it somewhere but cant seem to find it. Is there a wayto unroot or flash din files to take the 5.1.1 update. I am currently rooted and used flash fire to get to OF3. Can I just odin the oe2 files and take the update?
Does it have better performance than one of those ultra lite rom's? I am considering of getting off of my custom rom so I can take this update.
I have an update trying to install itself, but it fails in all ways, even when trying from the PC software. It doesn't say why it fails, but it may be because I'm unlocked or rooted. Also I can't seem to block checking for updates, it comes back time and time again, and has during the last two weeks. Is there a way to kill this stuff?
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I have an update trying to install itself, but it fails in all ways, even when trying from the PC software. It doesn't say why it fails, but it may be because I'm unlocked or rooted. Also I can't seem to block checking for updates, it comes back time and time again, and has during the last two weeks. Is there a way to kill this stuff?
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It will fail if you are rooted or unlocked. You can of course uninstall the software update app. It worked on the old z3 but take backup before doing so
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Thanks! I see. I can understand the rooted part, but unlocked? That's just dumb, to stop upgrades from an unlocked phone. So I used Titanium Backup to freeze it, and we'll see if that helps.
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Thanks! I see. I can understand the rooted part, but unlocked? That's just dumb, to stop upgrades from an unlocked phone. So I used Titanium Backup to freeze it, and we'll see if that helps.
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It should also warn you that you will not receive updates when unlocking the bootloader. It has always been like that with Sony, all the drm and stuff needs to be intact
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Thanks, but it wouldn't have stopped me anyway. I will not use a locked/unrooted phone. I want my Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, Air Audio and a few other niceties that needs root.