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Hi There.
I am wanting to upgrade from my Nokia 6500s, as the screen just happened to crack last week.
So should i get the O2x for £250 New
OR
Should i buy my friends iPhone 4 for £270 as he is looking to buy the 4s
Looking For some advice from owners of the O2x
(This is my first post here, be nice )
Avfcman said:
Hi There.
I am wanting to upgrade from my Nokia 6500s, as the screen just happened to crack last week.
So should i get the O2x for £250 New
OR
Should i buy my friends iPhone 4 for £270 as he is looking to buy the 4s
Looking For some advice from owners of the O2x
(This is my first post here, be nice )
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Iphone= no customization+apple = lame
o2x has alot of faults but hopefully when nvidia release there drivers and we get a decent build of ICS those problems will be a thing of the past. But in the mean time there are alot of fun roms and kernels and various customizations you can do to make it very entertaining.
But if you don't like that stuff and don't mind apple **** then go get ripped off.
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Iphone= no customization+apple = lame
o2x has alot of faults but hopefully when nvidia release there drivers and we get a decent build of ICS those problems will be a thing of the past. But in the mean time there are alot of fun roms and kernels and various customizations you can do to make it very entertaining.
But if you don't like that stuff and don't mind apple **** then go get ripped off.
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Well i have had a iPod Touch 3RD Gen, it was always Jailbroken, though am looking a change from the usual "Oh Look at this thing, its amazing, even though Android has already had it" But i do like how everything just works.
Though, having something that runs android would give me a change to mess around with things and tinker, which i like to do
Just need to make a decision before the 11th
The IPhone is a good fone and we wouldn't be where we are now if we didn't have the IPhone. That being said, I don't like IPhones as they are closed, too expensive, don't prevent wifi dropping (on standby) if your on a data allowance, over rated..
I work for O2 in the UK & all the time see the down falls compared to Android. I personally chose Android due to the open'ness and customization... The IPhones are smooth though but it all depends if your into making YOUR fone YOURS & Personal ;-).
I hate Blackberries more though lol as you either need to do a battery pull every 2 minutes or the Host Routing Table lol.
Its just my opinion but have a play with them both .
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The IPhone is a good fone and we wouldn't be where we are now if we didn't have the IPhone. That being said, I don't like IPhones as they are closed, too expensive, don't prevent wifi dropping (on standby) if your on a data allowance, over rated..
I work for O2 in the UK & all the time see the down falls compared to Android. I personally chose Android due to the open'ness and customization... The IPhones are smooth though but it all depends if your into making YOUR fone YOURS & Personal ;-).
I hate Blackberries more though lol as you either need to do a battery pull every 2 minutes or the Host Routing Table lol.
Its just my opinion but have a play with them both .
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Thanks for the Feedback, its much appreciated.
I already know how iOS works and all, and seem too like the idea of android. will be sure to test out the O2x if i get it, to see if i like it
Avfcman said:
Thanks for the Feedback, its much appreciated.
I already know how iOS works and all, and seem too like the idea of android. will be sure to test out the O2x if i get it, to see if i like it
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You will love it, its so much more customizable than any "i" device, seeing as you already have an ipad it makes no sense to get an iphone as well.
Try not to judge the o2x on it stock rom it kinda sucks, imediatly flash a custom rom and kernel and you'll have a blast it'll be fast and smooth but don't expect it to be aa smooth as the i devices remember android is an OS within an OS.
Edit: how did it post twice wtf bug in xda premium app?
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eraldo said:
You will love it, its so much more customizable than any "i" device, seeing as you already have an ipad it makes no sense to get an iphone as well.
Try not to judge the o2x on it stock rom it kinda sucks, imediatly flash a custom rom and kernel and you'll have a blast it'll be fast and smooth but don't expect it to be aa smooth as the i devices remember android is an OS within an OS.
Plus we have both flash and html5 support apple rejecting flash had nothing to do with performance issues it was to do with itunes and other crap that's why i HATE apple and won't ever buy an apple product.
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The reason why i didnt even bothered with the iphone 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Hi,
There is a pretty nice comparision of the 2x and the Ione on youtube... When i remember correctly it is from androidcentral ... Have a look at it, mightbe interesting for you.
Regards
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man, i owned the iphone4 and my brother have the 4s and my youngest have the gs2. honestly, they are realy jealous on my o2x, the speed, customization, stability, and the devs are very supportive.
go for o2x! cheaper than gs2 but i think gs2 is a little better. buy hey, i love my o2x!
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jefbeck said:
man, i owned the iphone4 and my brother have the 4s and my youngest have the gs2. honestly, they are realy jealous on my o2x, the speed, customization, stability, and the devs are very supportive.
go for o2x! cheaper than gs2 but i think gs2 is a little better. buy hey, i love my o2x!
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Yeah, I'd personally go for an O2X too. But seeing that the other option is an IP4, I'd take the O2X hands down. The IP4 is going to get old real fast once the IP5 is released Q2 to Q3 this year.
While the O2X is scheduled for ICS Q2 of this year. (give or take 2 quarters) lol.
If... the option was between the IP4S and the O2X though, I'd have to choose IP4S.
I have a optimus 2x. Bought it some days ago. By use its amazing. I accept that its software has some glitches but who has not? And moreover when you get a good hardware you should not really worry of software, as you will get it , its a open source.
I like apple as a media source. You told you have a ipod touch. I think its more than enuf from apple. You can enjoy there OS there touch feel and the apps. But apple doesnt allow you to do much customizations. It doesnt five yoi the degree of freedom android gives. So i would siggest you. Go for optimus 2x rather than Iphone 4 because you already have a iox device ipodtouch.
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Hello!
It is always about your needs...
But I see one big problem with the iPhone 4 16GB – your stuck with these 16GB and from my personnel experience this isn’t really much. I ordered a 32GB SDHC the moment I ordered my LG P990 and it is almost full including the build in 8GB… I actually very tempted to try one of the 64GB SDXD cards available – will order one and try it when the prices come down little more.
And compared to an iPhone 4 the LG P990 should be faster – I have seen some tests on youtube – but don’t have a link handy right now – and these tests where actually with the stock browser on stock rom…and custom roms are even a lot faster.
The rest is about taste…
IMHO Android is more versatile and I like the UI concept more, but this is purely dependent on what you like.
My tip go to some store where you can actually touch the phone and play around with it a little – even though the LG P990 is on stock not as fast ass it could be, but you get a basic idea of the look and feel.
I made this comparison between iPhone 4, SG2, HTC Sensation and LG P990…now guess which phone won…
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If... the option was between the IP4S and the O2X though, I'd have to choose IP4S.
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much smaller, and little bit better
Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.
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Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.
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Yes, your are most probably right and that is why we should try to do better here - especially since many people around here will know the look and feel of the iPhone 4 too...
And as I wrote I personally like the UI concept of android more and he should try both before making that decision.
Speedwise the Optimus 2x should be a little faster – but not that much since I must admit the software of the iPhone is usually over all a little bit better optimized.
But IMHO the biggest con against any iPhone and also to the most recent Google phone is the lack of an SD-card slot – this is/would be a absolute no go for me…
if IP4 would had 4" screen i wouldnt even thinking.
Thanks everyone for the feedback, I think I might give it a chance, though i will have to order it from Amazon UK as there are no phone stores around my town that stock O2x's.
I also didn't post on an apple section as I know what the replys would be to buy the iPhone as 50%-70% of apple owners only buy apple products as they Have the fruit logo and defend it.
Just another thing to touch on, if I did get the O2x i wouldn't root it for approx. 6-8months in-case an issue would occur and therefore i would be able to use warranty. What is the Stock rom like? And is it Usable?
Rooting:
I would assume rooting is a bit like jail-breaking, just run a program and its done?
and flashing roms, you just put them on an SD card and flash using clockworkrecovery?
Thanks again
i will say buying an iPhone4 is just an action of ifanboy
Rooting is not difficult, just as easy as jailbreaking the iOS devices. I sold my iPod touch 4th gen a few months ago and I know the differences between these products.
First of all, I want to remark that the optimus 2x still has a lot of issues. Random reboots, sleep of deaths, charging BSODs, memory leaking. These are very common issues which I experienced myself. Especially if you use the stock LG rom, make sure you remember this.
Most probably you won't void your warranty if you flash custom roms because you will be able to flash back to stock LG rom with kdz/smartflash methods.
If you are looking for a stable phone I honestly would not recommend the O2X at this moment. It is a nice phone with current CM7-kangs or modded kernel/modded stock rom, but the LG roms are real crap imo and you may still have problems even with xda roms.
Samsung for example has much better stock roms. You might look for the Galaxy R for example which looks great to me.
Nevertheless the o2x is really cheap for a dualcore phone with decent IPS screen. Real bang for the bucks. It's so much faster than my previous iPod Touch 4th gen. (Same processor as iPhone 4)
If you have no problems with claiming warranty if you have issues amd if you dont care to flash custom roms, the o2x could be a good choice.
(Sorry for language mistakes, my native language is Dutch)
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hi,
im thinking of buying a optimus 2x, but hear da lot of negative stuff about it, do you regret buying one/ why. i mainly heard the updating/ support wat bad but are there good custom roms to solve this?
pp2241 said:
hi,
im thinking of buying a optimus 2x, but hear da lot of negative stuff about it, do you regret buying one/ why. i mainly heard the updating/ support wat bad but are there good custom roms to solve this?
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Hi there,
I never regretted the decision to buy an O2X. It's a great phone for the price that you have to pay. However, it's true that unrooted the phone really sucks because the stock rom is laggy and slow. It's also true that the LG support sucks because we had to wait a long time for the official GB update.
Nevertheless, when you root the phone and remove the bloatware the phone becomes mush better and there are many customers roms and kernels which will improve your phone even more. You can find them in the dev section.
Don't worry about the dev support for our phone, most of the roms out here are updated daily, and there are many things to choose from.
pp2241 said:
hi,
im thinking of buying a optimus 2x, but hear da lot of negative stuff about it, do you regret buying one/ why. i mainly heard the updating/ support wat bad but are there good custom roms to solve this?
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I fully agree with the previous post by SP1996AC.....i have not regretted buying this phone at all....thanks the magic of our developers...there is always some surprise and some interesting thing added to the ROM for this phone....I am happy and i am sure you will be too....
So many Custom ROMs and so many features with stability and performance....IT ROCKS man...so jump on
Hello!
As always it is about your needs, how much money you want to spend etc.
IMHO the LG O2x is one of the best phones you get for the money.
Just in short - why did I buy a LG Optimus Speed...
1.) I wanted a fast Dual core Smartphone. At the time (end of Aug. 2011) there where others like HTC Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S2)
2.) I wanted a the phone not to be so big (4" was a border I didn't want to cross) - therefore HTC Sensation and Samsung Galaxy S2 didn't do the race...
3.) ...and the LG O2x was 140-150,-€ cheaper...
I knew the LG standard software is crap, but I hoped for the community to fix this and the community fixed it...
With CM7 and custom kernel the phone is blazing fast and everything works as expected.
The only thing not working perfectly is the FM radio - but honestly nothing I really need/use/miss...
So if you feel confident enough to root the phone right away and flash a custom rom, either closely stock(i.e. Guestes ROM or Django Manouche or whatever) or ASOP like CM7 you will get a fast Smartphone for relatively small money...
Even ICS is on the horizon and as CM7 is already working good - I can wait patiently...
IMHO - I wouldn't recommend using pure stock.
Thans, this certainly helped me a lot and i think i will buy one. In a while ( i first have to repair my pc )
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I'm hoping to buy one this weekend
I have one!
Is a good phone for the price.
i just bought it one month ago, agree the first thing you have to do with the phone is to remove the stock lg rom, very slow and sluggish, in the coming future hopefully there will be ics fully functioning, with the required nvidia drivers that was due to be release
Hi pp, so many votes in favor of p990 & my thought about it also same, its not the perfect phone but price performance looks features makes it one of the best phone.
If u buy use custom rom with custom kernel, u will never regret.
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not a bad phone for the price. esp with so many custom roms available.
Congrats to those who liked the phone and bought it..
is it me or is it the rom developments for incs has slowed down significantly?
i dont see any new roms popping up.. most of the recently active roms have slowed down too.. are we getting left behind?
think (hope) it will pickup after first official ICS Sense roms starts to leak. on the other hand, incredible S is starting to be a bit outdated (although it has some decent hardware), more focus seems to be on the dual core, more popular devices. we gotta admit, incredible s isn't that popular - we don't even officially have it on any carriers in my country.
I think the main cause is 'android fragmentation'. You may have heard of this term before. There's too many android devices, each further HTC device release caused all of us to separate into different development sections.
Back in the G1, Nexus one days it was much easier since there were relatively few devices..
Now all the new stuff's out, lots of people want to jump to Galaxy Nexus, so on.
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think (hope) it will pickup after first official ICS Sense roms starts to leak. on the other hand, incredible S is starting to be a bit outdated (although it has some decent hardware), more focus seems to be on the dual core, more popular devices. we gotta admit, incredible s isn't that popular - we don't even officially have it on any carriers in my country.
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The funny thing is dual core doesn't offer much improvement over the single, it seems like a lot of hype going on over nothing. probably over 3/4th or I dare say 90+% of the market is still written for single core applications.
I have the asus transformer 1 and most times I feel like performance is on par if not the same with the IncS, but when compared to my HTC Flyer (View) it feels much speedier since it's got a 1.5Ghz clock speed, the extra 500mhz shows sometimes. It takes heavy games like Shadowgun to see the difference between all devices, which can't be seen much in general surfing and regular phone related app use.
This is one thing that Apple has the advantage to in their gameplay strategy for devs, since they keep the releases specific, once a year. Development of their devices can be pooled and properly 'coordinated' without them moving onto different branches due to hardware, SoC, camera issues and so on.
Agree, if the first ICS HTC ROMs are leaked, development will gain momentum.
Right now, lots of work is spent on getting the camera working in ICS AOSP.
also, we gotta look at this ROM development as a hobby of the devs, one that usually starts with enthusiasm but over time proves to be very time consuming and falls last on their list of priorities. and unfortunately not a lot of people are willing or have the knowledge to fill in for the devs that get out of the game. i'm still reading up on android basics and kernel development, trying to make my first mix. Custom ROM development won't pay the bills, its mostly charity work.
You got to be grateful and appreciate their work.
Just last week there was a developer inviting testers for his vivo port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475459 and yet strangely, I don't see you contributing anything to the thread... in fact the response from the whole incredible s community was actually pretty unwelcoming. If I was a developer I would bypass this phone also, which seems to be pretty much what happened 6+ months ago.
Somehow, I missed that thread. I tend to not really read the index in general section often but I read the index of the dev section frequently.
I'm trying to jumpstart some action into the IncS, may not be much, but I have been building CM7.2 kangs and in the middle of testing building a CM9 kang, see how it goes.
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Just last week there was a developer inviting testers for his vivo port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475459 and yet strangely, I don't see you contributing anything to the thread... in fact the response from the whole incredible s community was actually pretty unwelcoming. If I was a developer I would bypass this phone also, which seems to be pretty much what happened 6+ months ago.
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i seemed to have missed his thread. will go over and take a look now
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also, we gotta look at this ROM development as a hobby of the devs, one that usually starts with enthusiasm but over time proves to be very time consuming and falls last on their list of priorities. and unfortunately not a lot of people are willing or have the knowledge to fill in for the devs that get out of the game. i'm still reading up on android basics and kernel development, trying to make my first mix. Custom ROM development won't pay the bills, its mostly charity work.
You got to be grateful and appreciate their work.
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i understand that, but the point that i want to point out here is that is our device getting left behind? im already thinking whether to sell my incs off and get a sensation instead but thinking back how hard nik and the guys worked so hard, it held me back for a moment
So you need to flash your phone 5 times or more per day to be satisfied? Why not use it instead? Heavy case of ORD .
hey bro,see this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490881
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So you need to flash your phone 5 times or more per day to be satisfied? Why not use it instead? Heavy case of ORD .
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lol ORD. not that man.. it's just that i see new roms popping out in the dhd section and the people there are always active and they never sleep. just wondering how can the dhd (old phone) be more popular than incs (newer) lol
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hey bro,see this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490881
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i saw it bro. im pretty much worked up right now haha~ cant wait to try it!
There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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Amen bro!
I'm with you in every word you said!
+1 for your post.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
bigeyes0x0 said:
There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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It's like you said =)
Sometimes you don't need a lot of things to have a great experience.
I remember back in the LG P500 days, there was only one rom and one kernel and the thing was fantastic.Even later new tweaks came,new roms,new kernels but the simpler ones were the best.
I like very much nikhil007mmus's work and Virtuous Team work, both very stable and fast.
I even suggested nikhil007mmus to talk with Francisco Franco to share some ideas to make even greater kernels for our device (kernel devs, don't get me wrong, I am not saying your work is bad, I don't even test it, but what I do know is that this man makes GREAT kernels, with great performance,great battery life and it keeps them simple.I tested his kernels in the P500 (Wich made the thing fast as hell (For a 600MHz device of course) and in the Nexus S (I got 2 full days of battery life with wifi,3g,lots of calls,etc etc and fast as hell).
Hope it get's even better here =)
Problem is the Incredible S was not a popular phone to begin among devs. Not like the Nexus One, Desire HD, Sensation and Galaxy S II.
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The bad and nice thing of HTC phones is, they have a bunch of devices with practically nearly identical internal HW. Thus you don't actually really need that many devs on one device in particular. The way I see it, quality is way more important, we already have Android fragmentation like some say, now we also have custom ROM fragmentation . All Sense 3.5 roms failed for me when toggling data. It would not be that much of a problem on Samsung as they don't disable data during call, but HTC do, and sometimes after call data doesn't come up which is a major problem for me as I need auto-sync for a bunch of services and it is the most annoying bug of all. I wish devs collaborated more for less ROMs but better quality. It also means less duplicated effort.
For now I'm using a ROM Cleaned ARHD 2.1.3 with Ultra Smooth Rosie, batt mod, odexed, and some tweaks in init.d. It's smooth like butter and I think that I can be happy until whenever ICS comes out, unless some Sense 3.5 custom ROM devs fixed the bug above. Just use your phone, the best is yet to come. And if you're too trigger happy buy Samsung GSII to flash around and chaotic development. My brother has one and I am actually the one modding it for him. It's insanely fast yet I do not want it (because of aesthetic, functional reasons and knowing what is enough) even though I can afford it.
And just how happy were the Samsung people? Click here...
I can get the devs "sense" of achievement but the hundreds of followers comments of yipeeeeeee, and awesome... etc etc etc ... Why not just buy an HTC?
I am near the end of my 3 month trial of a Nexus S and it has lasted pricisely 2 weeks, its up for sale. I just do not like it. Its featureless and slow. My Desire HD -using rcmix runny- is so much smoother and quicker to the touch I just don't get how they done so well. On Saturdy, else before, I will pickup my Evo 3d dual core and go again -after 4 years- with htc. At $330 (£229 in Asda UK), I just can't say no.
I know there are lots of fans out there for Samsung, but what do you like about it?
Me on Nexus S. Buttons, wkd for reboots to recovery when had to rip battery out. Nice and easy. Like the longer thinner screen too. And Amoled is very good. That is it.
I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.
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I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.
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Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. MIUI -for me- is boring, too much concentration on being an iphone rather than itself. I used to use first MIUI roms when it took weeks to get a translation out of Shen. It might be time to try it again.
I am one of the ones that strips Sense immediately. The point was that my HD runs faster and smoother with sense that the NS runs without it at all. I tried many roms and the lag is terrible, as was the stock rom. Now performance with the Oxygen or absolution roms... That is special. I just think the build quality is better. I guess I am disappointed with no singing OR dancing.
Orb3000, if you are around please explain what it is about HTC that we love so much.
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Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. .
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?
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Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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Not sure dude. I think that Samsung were cute using the Tegra 2 for those models and you will see a big swing this year when htc have the t3 inside. In bothe phone and tablet. The actual feel of an htc in your hand is much better i reckon. The nexus s and sg2 seem plasticy.
I have the cm9 kali ics on now.It is the only one of all the ICS's I can install and not spend 1hr putting things right on. its ok, but nothing like as quick as my DHD with sense on and loaded with apps, but that's on GB.
Ah well. I'm not sure what I expected from it really. The fact that i do mess with my own roms and knew what I would makes me the stupid one. If ur happy ur happy. I just wanted something different.
and the lord saw that it was a bloated resource hogging abomination and cast it into the lake of fire...
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?
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C'mon people... watch the language mmmmkay....
Im one of those people that stripped sense out as much as possible. Last years HTC phones were a disappointmet, I can't stand those 16:9 dimensions. Hopefully this year they make a decent phone with a 4:5 and 4.5" screen. Until then it'll be Samsungs.
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Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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I have to totally disagree with you there old bean
Sense is lovely, it's so smooth and logical. I find it usable where as I find plain android horrible so would never have a nexus.
As for hardware, yes the SGS II screen is nice, but the phone feels really cheap and brittle to me, I'd be worried about sitting down and snapping it. I don't have such issues with the sensation and prefer the higher resolution screen.
It's one of the huge advantages Android has over other phone OSs, there's so much variety and customisation available pretty much everyone's desires can be met.
Mmmm The Optimus Black is a phone classified in the upper mid-range phones, sporting 1Ghz and a very nice and sleek design and a brilliant screen!
BUT.... I own an Optimus Black since this February, replacing my broken Motorola Defy which i adored...
In the beginning it was just amazing! First thing I did was updating my OB, enjoying the 4" NOVA screen, and sleek design!
Everything was alright but, you know, a phone is boring without rooting and flashing!
There's the problem....
LACK OF SOFTWARE SUPPORT
... I mean.... Even my old Motorola Defy had a super stable CM7, MIUI, Mokee, ICS and other super cool roms when I bought my OB...
In the beginning I though the Optimus Black was more popular than Defy! But where are the devs...
I realised how popular the Defy is, so many users... which means so many devs!! ((
It is undeniable to see that the Defy forum have 1000s of devs, all helping each other, pulling out roms from their imagination...
Without sounding selfish, It is sad to see our community being small, compared to the other popular phones.
Today I checked the defy in development section, and they already ported stable CM9, MIUI v4, Mokee, and even CM10, AOKP and CM10!!! WTF...
However, I think the real culprit must be LG who delivers horrible software support...
An ICS coming probably next year..... OR NEVER
An incomprehensible laggy software on a 1Ghz device....
No significant response to customers' demand...
Make empty promises...
They prefer to make new customers, and leave existing ones behind, however, do they have an idea how important existing customers are?
We are the one who create and alter the reputation of LG. New customers are not unlimited... There is a boundary...
In other words, not caring about us, existing customers, will downgrade their reputation, and new customers won't exist for them...
I think the Optimus lack will be the last Lg phone I'll ever buy....
Lg is supposed to keep us satisfy with their OWN product as long as possible, by providing software updates...
It should look at Apple, who, though being a quite greedy company, at least provides software updates to older iPhone/iPod models!
By doing this, it shows how supportive it is for their existing customers, and new customers will say: "Wow, I'm sure to use my iPhone for at least 2-3 years!"
LG seems to be the greediest company....
Damn how I miss my Motorola Defy
One thing for sure, I probably won't miss my Optimus Black
Next will probably be a Nokia, Motorola, HTC, well anything else except LG -__-
Well that's what I wanted to say... I really wanted to share my feelings about LG and stuffs... Sorry if it is an inappropriate place to do it xD
There are points where I may sound unfair or selfish, but hey it is my opinion... We may discuss about it, but don't flame me...
Just a short question: Why did you buy OB then? You could have looked into the forum even before buying the phone... And why didnt you rebuy a Defy, if it was soo good? We all know, how bad LG software support is But I think the main problem is, that only few ppl got the device and can contribute to it... Why dont you learn more about android yourself and try to contribute as well? Wouldnt that be a point to begin with? Plus we simply got a "bad chipset" or at least it is hardly supported by TI :/
I think its not a bad chipset but bad supported one by TI..
They want to sell the OMAP 4/5 chipset, that's understandable in TI's point of view.
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Just a short question: Why did you buy OB then? You could have looked into the forum even before buying the phone... And why didnt you rebuy a Defy, if it was soo good? We all know, how bad LG software support is But I think the main problem is, that only few ppl got the device and can contribute to it... Why dont you learn more about android yourself and try to contribute as well? Wouldnt that be a point to begin with? Plus we simply got a "bad chipset" or at least it is hardly supported by TI :/
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i bought the OB because it looked soo good and was the cheapest I could find for such quality... Eh.. rebuying the same phone.. My dad would probably say "U mad!?" lol If I was allowed, I would rebuy the defy definitely...
I am not disliking the Optimus Black at all, but only the creator behind it...
Learning more about Android... mmm maybe it's possible for me since I'm in holidays Maybe coding, etc....
But it will take so much time before even helping expert devs xD
True that TI sucks! So many things don't work well or is unsupported by TI
If only OB had a Snapdragon... lol we would get Sense lol...
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i bought the OB because it looked soo good and was the cheapest I could find for such quality... Eh.. rebuying the same phone.. My dad would probably say "U mad!?" lol If I was allowed, I would rebuy the defy definitely...
I am not disliking the Optimus Black at all, but only the creator behind it...
Learning more about Android... mmm maybe it's possible for me since I'm in holidays Maybe coding, etc....
But it will take so much time before even helping expert devs xD
True that TI sucks! So many things don't work well or is unsupported by TI
If only OB had a Snapdragon... lol we would get Sense lol...
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Yea. Agreed. As we stirred up trouble here, TI has added 2 more devs into 3630's development and increased its speed of fixing compatibility issues
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Yea. Agreed. As we stirred up trouble here, TI has added 2 more devs into 3630's development and increased its speed of fixing compatibility issues
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Oh that's rather good news!
all phone makers suck at software updates (only 10% of the market has ics). the difference is made by devs or lack of them in this case.
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Oh that's rather good news!
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So lets stir up more trouble!!!
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So lets stir up more trouble!!!
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lets troll their HQ for more support on our device
I believe our OB is promising since there are so many awesome developer in our community.
agree with me ?:laugh:
Very well said.. I think my next phone will be a Nexus device.
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well well gentlemen, its technology and we are humans with wants that's why some might find that ob sucks
if you just sit and see about each and every phone, also think about your beloved ob's capabilities and what you loved at first...you'll find it pretty good again
sometimes i think about just updating blah blah then i say to myself...its a phone dude!
not a console, not a tv, not this and that...it serves its purpose (youtube, facebook, HSDPA, skype......................)
if we see well, by flashing everytime (though its fun) we just dont use the device for its intended purpose
i still want updates and new stuffs though
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wessyh0 said:
Very well said.. I think my next phone will be a Nexus device.
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me too
either samsung, htc or a nexus
well.. guess that means LG listens, even if they mostly dont respond.
This is my first lg product and im pretty happy, but I just cant for the life of me figure out why they wouldnt optimize battery performance themselves... it seems so.. lazy
Just wait for d final release of ICS til dec.
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I think that the OB its a very good phone, its cheap, light, fast and very customizable...
However, the battery sucks!!
You say in the title that OB sucks, and yet the only thing you complain about is the lack of support by LG, and consequently lack of stable shiny roms
That does not make a phone suck.
It still works above average with GB and some custom roms, that give it a really good performance and battery life. As you also say, it's a mid-range phone, and for that category and quality/price ratio, I believe it's one of the best phones out there.
Don't get me wrong, I'd also wish we had more support from LG no doubt. I just don't think it's fair coming here stating that a phone sucks, just because it doesn't have the roms you like.
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You say in the title that OB sucks, and yet the only thing you complain about is the lack of support by LG, and consequently lack of stable shiny roms
That does not make a phone suck.
It still works above average with GB and some custom roms, that give it a really good performance and battery life. As you also say, it's a mid-range phone, and for that category and quality/price ratio, I believe it's one of the best phones out there.
Don't get me wrong, I'd also wish we had more support from LG no doubt. I just don't think it's fair coming here stating that a phone sucks, just because it doesn't have the roms you like.
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A phone with a lack of software support or inferior OS makes the phone quite not worth buying! What will be a phone without a good OS/rom?
Take example; nokia phones with Symbian S60.
Because of the inferior OS, many people say these phones sucks, and they are not wrong...
The software also represents a major part of a phone's quality.
Another example: HTC HD2 has a tremendous amount of roms, even extending it's OS support.
yet having an inferior hardware specs than OB, I find the HD2 a great phone, not only because of it's huge software support, but also for it's stable rom, making the phone just even better..
It is not about the roms i like personally, but it is about satisfying ALL OB owners...
The battery life of the OB can still be improved by much, IF LG showed software support by optimising the OS for the OB.
Agree that it's one the best mid-range phone for it's quality and price, but just far away from the elite ones (Galaxy S/Xperia Arc,Nexus S,etc)
Moreover having TI processor makes the OB even less appealing for devs and LG...
Of course my arguments may not be the ones you'll agree with... since it's my opinion...
So according to me, the software determines whether a phone is good or not.. You may not be of the same state of mind as me
I appreciate that you show strong arguments for saying why the OB doesn't suck, this will keep a balance and prevent bias or any conflicts, as my objective was not to create bias, but to show my opinion about it, AND to allow other users to express themselves about it
Are you seriously comparing Symbian with Gingerbread? That's not a real argument, sorry. If Gingerbread was as bad as Symbian I would be the first to toss my phone out the window.
Gingerbread is not an inferior OS (like Symbian), it's just outdated.
Of course software is very important, who said it wasn't? That's why we all love Android My point was that just because OB doesn't have the last shiny version of ICS, doesn't make it garbage.
It still has a very good mobile OS and very good specs, regarding its price. So it can't suck, sorry
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Are you seriously comparing Symbian with Gingerbread? That's not a real argument, sorry. If Gingerbread was as bad as Symbian I would be the first to toss my phone out the window.
Gingerbread is not an inferior OS (like Symbian), it's just outdated.
Of course software is very important, who said it wasn't? That's why we all love Android My point was that just because OB doesn't have the last shiny version of ICS, doesn't make it garbage.
It still has a very good mobile OS and very good specs, regarding its price. So it can't suck, sorry
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Hmm.. Honestly i find Symbian Belle FP1 as efficient as Gingerbread... I would fall for a Nokia Pureview 808 anytime xD
True though... it's not garbage... Maybe I should replace the word "sucks" by another weaker word lol
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Hmm.. Honestly i find Symbian Belle FP1 as efficient as Gingerbread... I would fall for a Nokia Pureview 808 anytime xD
True though... it's not garbage... Maybe I should replace the word "sucks" by another weaker word lol
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Now I accept the title, and it is in fact not that great that we perhaps won't have ICS.
As for Pureview... THAT CAMERA!
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