I post this in Off-topic because its not related to the phones.
I recently received a Racism/Stereotypical Infraction for saying that I do not want to deal with Indians if AT&T merges with T-mobile, and that Indian calling centers are horrible.
So who do I contact to dispute it? Would I get ban next time if I say Indians, Americans, Mexicans, Italians? Its ridiculous.
AntonJart said:
I post this in Off-topic because its not related to the phones.
I recently received a Racism/Stereotypical Infraction for saying that I do not want to deal with Indians if AT&T merges with T-mobile, and that Indian calling centers are horrible.
So who do I contact to dispute it? Would I get ban next time if I say Indians, Americans, Mexicans, Italians? Its ridiculous.
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Get used to it, buddy.
I lost count of the number of unfair infractions that I got for posting up jokes.
As long as someone is pissed...
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Let me guess , it was in general or networking ?
If you got infraction points u should write to an admin , similar rediculous stuff happened me but didnt get points so i didnt make a deal about it
My favourite one is when a guy opens a blatantly obvious flame bait iphone thread in general(what does xda have to do with iphones?) , i advise him theres an iphone-developers site not so far, and i get an infraction .... gfg
You think it's a good idea to repeat what you said here when you've already been warned about it?
In before the ban
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You think it's a good idea to repeat what you said here when you've already been warned about it?
In before the ban
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People in this thread would probably not get pissed. I wouldn't if someone cracked jokes about Malaysia or Chinese, because it will be real funny.
I suppose that being overly politically correct would be just stifling, especially since a lot of people are defined by their cultural stereotypes. On that note, if we would be completely homogeneous, there would be no differentiation and soylent green would be an acceptably delicious food item.
Of course, I laughed at the OP's crack at Indians. I still remember Slumdog Millionaire
It doesn't help that the OP could possibly be right, and sometimes Indians have a way of over-rrrrrolling their rrrrrs in a funny way to the point that it is difficult to understand.
/Dealt with Indians
//Yes, they do rrrrrrrroll theirrrrr rrrrrrrs
///While rrrrrrolling theirrrrr heads
////Afterrrrrrr a while, you tend to rrrrroll with them
Surely you do understand that if xda does not punish you in some way for making a rascist comment then they are seen to be condoning it, and therefore being rascist themselves?
The slightest remark that tarnishes any particular race of people has to be considered rascist, whether the intention was to hurt or not.
They're just doing their "job". Get over it, move on, and don't do it again
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Surely you do understand that if xda does not punish you in some way for making a rascist comment then they are seen to be condoning it, and therefore being rascist themselves?
The slightest remark that tarnishes any particular race of people has to be considered rascist, whether the intention was to hurt or not.
They're just doing their "job". Get over it, move on, and don't do it again
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+1
10char. Or so
johncmolyneux said:
Surely you do understand that if xda does not punish you in some way for making a rascist comment then they are seen to be condoning it, and therefore being rascist themselves?
The slightest remark that tarnishes any particular race of people has to be considered rascist, whether the intention was to hurt or not.
They're just doing their "job". Get over it, move on, and don't do it again
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Noob i see you fail to understand his point , so lemme help ya out ,
His problem was he was labelled as racist commenter while he wasnt one. It had nothing to do with what your talking about , it. was. not. racism. Get that in your head .
He was pointing out the fact that he'd rather not deal with a callcenter whos employees do not speak english as a first language , and thats perfectly understandable , who wouldnt try to avoid the hassle situations like that bring unavoidably ? Even if you dont mind , its his choice .
Let me know how its going and leave me a note if you need further assistance on this mattter
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He was pointing out the fact that he'd rather not deal with a callcenter whos employees do not speak english as a first language , and thats perfectly understandable
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That's not what I read. What I read was the actual words that were on this page. ..
AntonJart said:
I do not want to deal with Indians if AT&T merges with T-mobile, and that Indian calling centers are horrible.
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Which is why I responded with...
johncmolyneux said:
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If he doesn't have the wherewithal to say "I'd rather speak to a native english speaking person than someone who may have an accent that I don't understand", then he should keep his comments to himself. I do suspect, however, that he's perfectly capable of being clear about his issue, and does not require people to make up stories about what he meant when he said something else.
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That's not what I read. What I read was the actual words that were on this page. ..
Which is why I responded with...
If he doesn't have the wherewithal to say "I'd rather speak to a native english speaking person than someone who may have an accent that I don't understand", then he should keep his comments to himself. I do suspect, however, that he's perfectly capable of being clear about his issue, and does not require people to make up stories about what he meant when he said something else.
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Chill bro... souljaboy is the No.1 troll in XDA off-topic... ignore him
Before this thread gets closed...
Perhaps just saying:
"I'm sorry, I did not intend for what I said to sound racist, I'll try to be more careful in future how I say things"
Would probably avoided the points etc. But yeah, don't worry about it, it'll not go into your school report and I'm sure no one will bring it up if you become President.
It is all subjective, like bad language, sometimes I don't even notice it on TV and sometimes even the slightest not-even-a-swear-word can annoy me.
I'm sure you didn't intend to be racist and if that is the case, no problem. It was probably the potential discussion that could have developed rather than the comment itself.
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Chill bro... souljaboy is the No.1 troll in XDA off-topic... ignore him
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meltwater said:
Perhaps just saying:
"I'm sorry, I did not intend for what I said to sound racist, I'll try to be more careful in future how I say things"
Would probably avoided the points etc.
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you do know the mods dont send you a pm asking if you regret what you said before issuing an infraction ?
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Chill bro... souljaboy is the No.1 troll in XDA off-topic... ignore him
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Yeah, I figured that one already, cheers. Trolls have feelings too though!
sakai ... no.1 backstabber
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you do know the mods dont send you a pm asking if you regret what you said before issuing an infraction ?
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Until they are replaced with modbots, they might respond to reason.
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If you have an issue with how you have been treated, PM an admin or report your infraction...don't start these kind of threads.
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Keep posting your wonderful tilt buys in all the threads as you wish!!!
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Wel All Make Mistakes.
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LOL you got that right.
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And How You Gor It For 299
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Mine was only $150.
jackieboy said:
For The Love Of God Please Stop Posting Your Damn Shopping Lists In All The Threads, I Dont Think Any Of Us Really Care How Much You Paid For Your Tilt.
Enough Please Stop Stop Stop Discussing Your Buying In Threads That Dont Deal With It. Sh-t Your Worse Then Women Shoppers, Keep It To Each Other Or In A Designated Thread, Your Serioulsy Causing Traffic In The Threads, People Are Not Reading The Thread Properly Because You Switch Subjects, Stick To The Thread Topic, The Kaiser Thread Is Becoming So Cluttered With Repeptetive Questions And That Same Old Prpeier Sh-t With Att And How You Gor It For 299 Please Stop! Now The Kaiser Sections Looks Like The Hermes Section Full Of Stupid Questions, Why Do I Say Stupid, Because It Was Answered! I Dont Care How Bad A Question Is If Its Original. Neither Do I Think Any Of The Real Pros Mind Aswering It Either If Its Original.
And Please Dont Be Offended, Just Think About It And Stop. Wel All Make Mistakes. And Yes We All Get Excited But I Cant Even Find A Relevent Thhead And Its Not Just Me, A Few Friends Have Said The Same Thhing, So If You Got A Problem With
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My post wasnt a mistake, It was deliberate. Just dont read the thread if you know the topic is about what some members has paid for there phone! But since i feel your coming off so pissed about it, then ill hijak as well. ONCE AGAIN I got mine for 265.00. Non-contract, out the door, no change of data plan!
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For The Love Of God Please Stop Posting Your Damn Shopping Lists In All The Threads, I Dont Think Any Of Us Really Care How Much You Paid For Your Tilt.
Enough Please Stop Stop Stop Discussing Your Buying In Threads That Dont Deal With It. Sh-t Your Worse Then Women Shoppers, Keep It To Each Other Or In A Designated Thread, Your Serioulsy Causing Traffic In The Threads, People Are Not Reading The Thread Properly Because You Switch Subjects, Stick To The Thread Topic, The Kaiser Thread Is Becoming So Cluttered With Repeptetive Questions And That Same Old Premier Sh-t With Att And How You Gor It For 299 Please Stop! Now The Kaiser Sections Looks Like The Hermes Section Full Of Stupid Questions, Why Do I Say Stupid, Because It Was Answered! I Dont Care How Bad A Question Is If Its Original. Neither Do I Think Any Of The Real Pros Mind Aswering It Either If Its Original.
And Please Dont Be Offended, Just Think About It And Stop. Wel All Make Mistakes. And Yes We All Get Excited But I Cant Even Find A Relevent Thhead And Its Not Just Me, A Few Friends Have Said The Same Thhing, So If You Got A Problem With
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Son, we live in a world that has websites, and those websites have to be visited by men with computers. Who’s gonna visit them all? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You curse the newbs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That a newb’s life, while tragic, probably creates traffic and advertising opportunities. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, creates traffic. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in chatrooms, you want me on that computer, you need me on that computer. We use words like help… and please… and thanks. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent lurking. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very web traffic and advertising that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a keyboard and answer a post. Either way, I don't give a darn what you think you are entitled to.
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Son, we live in a world that has websites, and those websites have to be visited by men with computers. Who’s gonna visit them all? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You curse the newbs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That a newb’s life, while tragic, probably creates traffic and advertising opportunities. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, creates traffic. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in chatrooms, you want me on that computer, you need me on that computer. We use words like help… and please… and thanks. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent lurking. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very web traffic and advertising that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a keyboard and answer a post. Either way, I don't give a darn what you think you are entitled to.
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HAHA...nice
smuook, that was a rather funny post!
kinda hard to read when hes got the whole capitalise every word thing going on. lol @ smuook bravo... encore!!
jockieboy or boy, don't you read the title before you read the whole thread, if you don't like the title of the thread, don't read it.
marm0lade said:
Mine was only $150.
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Damn I got mine for $225 on the first day it was out.
This thread seems a bit off-topic...
Any reason why you capitalize every word in your post? I stopped at the first sentence because it's so hard to read.
Jackieboy, does that go for everyone that needs to brag in their signature about what they have and how they have it tweaked?
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That's mad comedy yo!
jackieboy said:
For The Love Of God Please Stop Posting Your Damn Shopping Lists In All The Threads, I Dont Think Any Of Us Really Care How Much You Paid For Your Tilt.
Enough Please Stop Stop Stop Discussing Your Buying In Threads That Dont Deal With It. Sh-t Your Worse Then Women Shoppers, Keep It To Each Other Or In A Designated Thread, Your Serioulsy Causing Traffic In The Threads, People Are Not Reading The Thread Properly Because You Switch Subjects, Stick To The Thread Topic, The Kaiser Thread Is Becoming So Cluttered With Repeptetive Questions And That Same Old Premier Sh-t With Att And How You Gor It For 299 Please Stop! Now The Kaiser Sections Looks Like The Hermes Section Full Of Stupid Questions, Why Do I Say Stupid, Because It Was Answered! I Dont Care How Bad A Question Is If Its Original. Neither Do I Think Any Of The Real Pros Mind Aswering It Either If Its Original.
And Please Dont Be Offended, Just Think About It And Stop. Wel All Make Mistakes. And Yes We All Get Excited But I Cant Even Find A Relevent Thhead And Its Not Just Me, A Few Friends Have Said The Same Thhing, So If You Got A Problem With
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I presume your post was about maximizing efficiency and in that case, here's a piece of advice for you as well. Your word count suggests you hit the caps on/off key 416 useless times, not to mention how annoying it is for readers.
Pleasantries aside...The reduced size of PDAs, their increased functionality, Apple's mega marketing machine and kickass iPhone have combined to bring Pocket PCs into the mainstream. With that comes mainstream consumers who hit websites such as this for information. I am one of them and it's true, perhaps I should hesitate before posting. But for every 10000 new Pocket PC enthusiasts that come along, there is one person who's an adept programmer and contributes something of value. IMHO it makes avoiding threads or comments that don't agree with me such a non issue.
Its so funny how so many of you really really got hurt by my comment, awww im so sorry.
Only I got to answer the caps thing cause I myself was bothered by why that happened, I certainly did not take the time to caps each word.
And this thread is def. making me and my friends on here laugh, especially nitpicking my words, is that all you have on me wow, if it makes you feel that good, then go for it, keep posting your buys in every thread and make it even harder for guys and those who contribute information. I have the time to write this because not that it just bothers me but I am trying to stop the threads that go on for pages when its a disccusion of a price that is not neccessary. It's obvious that most of you who have responded don't care and that is selfish. But you don't care anyway's I mean you haven't even donated a dime.
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I know I started a thread about purchase price on the kaiser, but it was created in the kaiser thread! I have not seen any other threads on this in this forum, so i dont know why jackieboy would even start a cornball thread like this! Im sure most people on here post there purchase price in this thread in resentment torwards jackieboy's comments!
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I started this thread because I kept reading other threads where one person is asking a question about a rom, and another guys got into a conversation about a price, and then the next 3 pages were about his premier price and the thread which dealt about a rom now was lost in prices. Then another thread about today screens, and again the damn price thing popped up, and then the nght i wrote this thread another idiot changed the topic and spoke about geting his tilt for 199. Now you try to look for a topic and when you read and when I say read, I mean read the entire thread from page 1 until the present and when you get's off topic over a price see if it bothers you.
I don't see how this doesnt bother anyone else? maybe because you don't read a thread entirely but I do, this isn't personal, I havent mentioned anyones names or attacked anyone, I am attacking the idea of posting you great buy in a thread that has nothign to do with you calling ATT and asking for a premier price. And for the record, I got the TILT for $99.00 with no premier account. And I posted that in a relevent thread.
Why does asking people not to mention their price in every thread a problem.
wow you are so serious, smile it wont kill you!
But anyway, I don't want you to fall of your chair or even blow. Here's the deal, cause you obviously have not enderstood anything I wrote. I simply said, don't keep posting tilt prices in threads that don't deal with tilt prices. Is that so complicated or insulting.
As for being a Newb, So am I, I ask allot of questions and I was told to do a search, but when I want to look for tilt rom and in the process I have to read pages of a thread, that deals with certain rom mention the price and then having 10 other people conversing back about the price it confuses the thread. Many people cant properly find the answer to their questions because people who get so excited post unrelevent information in a thread that doesnt deal with that issue.
Moderators usually stop it, but why have them do it, just devote a thread to your silly Tilt buying tactics and keep it there, how is thsi insulting to you or anyone else. I even contributed to that thread and mentioned I got my Tilt for 99.00 and explained how, but what I will tell you is that I didn;t post it in Duty's test Rom 3, because it has no buisness of being there.
This is my reply I've gotten 30 PM's from people who agree with me but don't have the balls to support me on here, so so you can sleep and relax I not only removed my thread, which I wrote. I removed it not because I have the idea if you can;t beet em join em, but because I realized there wil always be those who will not read and those that will always put down those who tell the truth. I should have realized that before I thought of trying to make a difference and urge people to just stop and read, But if moderators can't stop stupid Newbies then who am I. So I am going to close this and guess what you won! are you happy you win! I give up!
smuook said:
Son, we live in a world that has websites, and those websites have to be visited by men with computers. Who’s gonna visit them all? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You curse the newbs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That a newb’s life, while tragic, probably creates traffic and advertising opportunities. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, creates traffic. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in chatrooms, you want me on that computer, you need me on that computer. We use words like help… and please… and thanks. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent lurking. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very web traffic and advertising that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a keyboard and answer a post. Either way, I don't give a darn what you think you are entitled to.
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This thread seems a bit off-topic...
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Great well now all you people can post your price in this thread and leave the others alone. Somethign was accomplished!
So I got mine for 99.00 and I am posting the receipt in a seperate thread.
CHALLENGE
Does anybody know how to prevent government eavesdropping AND forced Tilt updates from ATT?
If the answer is no, I would like this forum to become a channel for developing a program/process to re-gain control over the phones WE PAID FOR.
Worry not, no swat team is coming...no suits are coming.
I'm not mafia or a criminal so my tapping seems very unjustified. But most of all, I hate my resources being used dis favorably.
Thanks!!
chayankhoidream said:
CHALLENGE
Does anybody know how to prevent government eavesdropping AND forced Tilt updates from ATT?
If the answer is no, I would like this forum to become a channel for developing a program/process to re-gain control over the phones WE PAID FOR.
Worry not, no swat team is coming...no suits are coming.
I'm not mafia or a criminal so my tapping seems very unjustified. But most of all, I hate my resources being used dis favorably.
Thanks!!
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You people can take your chances , I 'm protected.
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^^^^^
har har har.
great picture.
they can already without your device needing anything
here is some reading material, Suffice to say if you don't want anyone to know, Do not say it, especially over a telephone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act:
not sure how you are going to avoid getting watched by someone. if you dont want to get monitored then dont have a phone or a computer.
This is your brain
This is your brain on drugs.
chayankhoidream
Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008
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Kaiser Eavesdropping
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CHALLENGE
Does anybody know how to prevent government eavesdropping AND forced Tilt updates from ATT?
If the answer is no, I would like this forum to become a channel for developing a program/process to re-gain control over the phones WE PAID FOR.
Worry not, no swat team is coming...no suits are coming.
I'm not mafia or a criminal so my tapping seems very unjustified. But most of all, I hate my resources being used dis favorably.
Thanks!!
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Better watch out, they know you posted this and now they are mad..
There, there I see them.
AH they have a lock on you.
OMG EVEN DOGS ARE CHASING YOU..
ah you can't even hide in a hole.
Sorry dude
They can't spy on me if they can't see me.
The raptors can smell you.
While your question is reasonable
it is unlikely to have a positive answer.
As for preventing listening, no. Any level of encryption that would prevent government access would likely be a hardware device, not a software implementation.
As for stopping forced upgrades, I did it simply by unlocking my Tilt and moving it to T-Mobile.
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AKMark said:
it is unlikely to have a positive answer.
As for preventing listening, no. Any level of encryption that would prevent government access would likely be a hardware device, not a software implementation.
As for stopping forced upgrades, I did it simply by unlocking my Tilt and moving it to T-Mobile.
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Don't listen to him, he's one of them.
ah and I'm on att and never have I gotten an update.
ChumleyEX said:
Don't listen to him, he's one of them.
ah and I'm on att and never have I gotten an update.
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As am I, and I have never gotten a forced update either.
Well except when they sent gunmen to my door and forced me to upgrade
from WM 5 to WM 6, oh no wait wait, that wasn't AT$T that was Sprint.
Okay nevermind, yes AT$T has never forced me to upgrade.
My brother has supposedly seen this technology in action. He imports a ton of military hardware (flakjackets) to different countries even including submarines.
He said that a few ex government types he deals with use it like a post meeting eavsdrop. They listen to what the people thought of them after the meeting by activating thier cell phones some way.
He didn't specifically say how they did it, but he did say that everyphone in the last whatever years has it built in. Any the only way to stop it is to take the battery out of your phone.
IDK if it is true, but he sounded very serious when he said it, and he usually doesn't fool around like that.
chayankhoidream said:
CHALLENGE
Does anybody know how to prevent government eavesdropping AND forced Tilt updates from ATT?
If the answer is no, I would like this forum to become a channel for developing a program/process to re-gain control over the phones WE PAID FOR.
Worry not, no swat team is coming...no suits are coming.
I'm not mafia or a criminal so my tapping seems very unjustified. But most of all, I hate my resources being used dis favorably.
Thanks!!
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I do enjoy the fact that he is worried about the feds listening in on his conversations, but asks for help defeating them on a public forum. Now that is irony. Oh, and enjoy the pic in my sig block.
Somewhere, there is a Chloe O'Brian after you.
Actually... He might not be so paranoid... here is a story that ran on Fox News in the US...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwl7mEHb4RM
The US Gov has already established that Cellphone users can "expect no privacy" because it is wireless and signals can be intercepted, thus police and gov officials do not need a warrant to listen in and record calls on a cell.. And according to the news above.. they can listen in all the time, even if the phone is turned off...
Well then when is he doing that he must worry about them listening in. If tapping into my phone saves a life then do it. I'm sure you will hear great conversations..
Chumley "Are you hungry"
Friend "yeah what about you"
Chumley " yeah, where do you wanna go"
Friend " Anywhere is cool"
Chumley "really? because I know I will say a place and you won't go"
Friend "like where?"
Chumley "chinese buffet"
Friend "yeah, no I don't want that"
Chumley "so where do you want to eat"
Friend "anywhere but chinese"
Chumley "right"
I would hate to think that Obama over heard that..
Or I guess if they just turn the phone on when noone knows.
Chumley "Damn she's hot"
Friend " omg look at those @#[email protected]#"
Chumley "I think i love her"
Friend " I don't think she's old enough"
Chumley "ah it's all good, she's at least 15"
Waitress "can I get you anything?"
Chumley " yeah another beer and a shot of whisky"
Friend "and your phone number"
Waitress " ok, a beer, a shot and nothing for your friend"
ChumleyEX said:
Well then when is he doing that he must worry about them listening in. If tapping into my phone saves a life then do it. I'm sure you will hear great conversations..
Chumley "Are you hungry"
Friend "yeah what about you"
Chumley " yeah, where do you wanna go"
Friend " Anywhere is cool"
Chumley "really? because I know I will say a place and you won't go"
Friend "like where?"
Chumley "chinese buffet"
Friend "yeah, no I don't want that"
Chumley "so where do you want to eat"
Friend "anywhere but chinese"
Chumley "right"
I would hate to think that Obama over heard that..
Or I guess if they just turn the phone on when noone knows.
Chumley "Damn she's hot"
Friend " omg look at those @#[email protected]#"
Chumley "I think i love her"
Friend " I don't think she's old enough"
Chumley "ah it's all good, she's at least 15"
Waitress "can I get you anything?"
Chumley " yeah another beer and a shot of whisky"
Friend "and your phone number"
Waitress " ok, a beer, a shot and nothing for your friend"
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Chumley,
I find it very funny that you friend just got shot down virtually.
do some research people, the governmnt cannot listen in on a US unless approved by the attorney general and a few others. DO YOU HEAR THAT YOU FED BASTARDS?!?!?!
I still wear my tin-foil hat... just in case though.
As far as I know, the AT&T Tilt does not support Firmware Updates Over the Air. The only AT&T phone that can do that is the Motorola Q9h, and it hasn't ever gotten and update to my knowledge. Besides, you can opt out of the update before you install it. However, as far as the US government listening in, I don't know about that one. Just a few days ago, some document was released by the government that allowed the military to "search and seize terror suspects" without a warrant, so I would never assume that you're totally safe, even on a cell phone. Here's the article for anyone who's interested.
Dave
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Just a few days ago, some document was released by the government that allowed the military to "search and seize terror suspects" without a warrant, so I would never assume that you're totally safe,
Dave
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Really ? I could have sworn I sat on something the other day.
I guess I'm up for another AT$T update.
LOL! Where do all you senior-senior members get these photos? It seems like all of you with over ~500ish posts have some super secret repository of funny photos that can only be used in some very specific situations.
Dave
tHIS IS GOINg to suck for trolling. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/12/defamation-bill-moves-to-unmask-trolls_n_1588793.html
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tHIS IS GOINg to suck for trolling. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/12/defamation-bill-moves-to-unmask-trolls_n_1588793.html
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Not sure if this is trolling, or it's just a retarded idea I really don't see this working if it's real though. It could easily be abused either by the trolls themselves or by noobs who feel they're being hard-done by when they're told to search the forums.
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Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
funny article is funny
Isn't it funny how people read a news headline and don't bother either reading the full article or researching the background behind afore-mentioned article.
This is not a plan to clamp down on people posting idiotic comments in an Off-Topic forum. This is aimed at finding and prosecuting the people who post nasty, malicious comments on the Facebook page of a 13 year old girl who took her own life. Is there a single person on this forum who thinks that is acceptable behaviour or who feels that sort of 'troll' should be protected from legal action?
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Isn't it funny how people read a news headline and don't bother either reading the full article or researching the background behind afore-mentioned article.
This is not a plan to clamp down on people posting idiotic comments in an Off-Topic forum. This is aimed at finding and prosecuting the people who post nasty, malicious comments on the Facebook page of a 13 year old girl who took her own life. Is there a single person on this forum who thinks that is acceptable behaviour or who feels that sort of 'troll' should be protected from legal action?
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There was one recently where the guy got prosecuted for "trolling", as it was called. He'd been leaving comments on facebook pages of people who had died, and their family members. But it was posted on here saying "We'd best be careful or we'll get arrested!"
Really not the same thing. I don't think there's many people on this forum that would even hesitate to report that kind of foul behaviour, let alone do it!
I'm pretty sure it would be insta-perma-ban, without warning.
UK news this morning featured a segment on an 'internetz troll'.. he was a short fat fugly old dude with a long pointy goatee.. talk about visual onomatpoiea
Edit: here we go.. Frank Zimmerman, Troll ...
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Simon.TS.HTC said:
Isn't it funny how people read a news headline and don't bother either reading the full article or researching the background behind afore-mentioned article.
This is not a plan to clamp down on people posting idiotic comments in an Off-Topic forum. This is aimed at finding and prosecuting the people who post nasty, malicious comments on the Facebook page of a 13 year old girl who took her own life. Is there a single person on this forum who thinks that is acceptable behaviour or who feels that sort of 'troll' should be protected from legal action?
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It says:
The age of the troll could be over.
Websites might be forced to unmask people who post defamatory statements online.
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So it's not entirely aimed at that Facebook page, it's aimed at the internet community as a whole. Every site there is a troll who posts malicious comments, some are funny trolls & friendly once you get to know them, some will stop at nothing to make people's lives hell.
Websites will not be prosecuted for displaying offensive comments if they help to uncover trolls' identities.
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I think that's abit stupid. Helping to uncover surely must breach the law of privacy?
My thought are,
This is either a really good idea that might help people post with no worries (?)
Or its the most dumbass idea that might get xda closed down....just my thoughts
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Aiwa said:
It says:
So it's not entirely aimed at that Facebook page, it's aimed at the internet community as a whole. Every site there is a troll who posts malicious comments, some are funny trolls & friendly once you get to know them, some will stop at nothing to make people's lives hell.
I think that's abit stupid. Helping to uncover surely must breach the law of privacy?
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I see you quoted but how much of the article did you read in-depth? It's written to suggest that a very high burden of proof will be required for action to be taken. Jazek and the rest of us are safe.
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I see you quoted but how much of the article did you read in-depth? It's written to suggest that a very high burden of proof will be required for action to be taken. Jazek and the rest of us are safe.
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Is M_T_M? I like him
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Queue the music.....
so how many forums and websites and such may get shut down or have their members ratted out if they don't comply.
Yes, just write your friends' names right here in zee book as we discussed. No, no, nozing will happen to them, we just want to ask them a few routine questions.
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so how many forums and websites and such may get shut down or have their members ratted out if they don't comply.
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Who gives a ****? If they aren't willing to pass on the details of somebody that has committed an offence then they should be shut down.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Who gives a ****? If they aren't willing to pass on the details of somebody that has committed an offence then they should be shut down.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Quite scary to be saying this but ... the voice of common sense and reason
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Who gives a ****? If they aren't willing to pass on the details of somebody that has committed an offence then they should be shut down.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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true but if bills and laws like SOPA ever get passed then this will become common.
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Who gives a ****? If they aren't willing to pass on the details of somebody that has committed an offence then they should be shut down.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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The problem is what an offense is going to morph in to. One day you may get reported for telling someone they are too stupid for the internet.
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The problem is what an offense is going to morph in to. One day you may get reported for telling someone they are too stupid for the internet.
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Ah well that's when things will begin to suck....
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Hello!!
I'm starting this thread because I thought some of us maybe need some advice in relationship matters from nerdy Android enthusiasts. And, after all, why not.
What you can post in this thread:
-Your problems with a girl/boy
-Any type of relationship questions (Keep it SFW)
-Advice for others
Trolling
I know the trolling opportunity here is huge. So, please, contain yourselves, and don't troll, because it may give birth to raging and flaming. Thank you.
So, I'll start. This week, my girlfriend for 2 months decided that I should be put in the friendzone because she doesn't feel anything for me yet. We have been seeing each other about once a week, and I'm not surprised that she doesn't feel anything yet. It's too soon, and we barely hung out.
I gave her a week to think this through, and now I have some time to prepare my words to convince her intro keeping this relationship. What do you guys think that I should do, or say to her the next weekend?
Just start acting like you're really into her. Ask her to hang out(more often), text her good night every day and pay attention to her. Also pay attention to your appearance. It matters to her believe me. That's how women work.
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DigginGraves said:
So, I'll start. This week, my girlfriend for 2 months decided that I should be put in the friendzone because she doesn't feel anything for me yet. We have been seeing each other about once a week, and I'm not surprised that she doesn't feel anything yet. It's too soon, and we barely hung out.
I gave her a week to think this through, and now I have some time to prepare my words to convince her intro keeping this relationship. What do you guys think that I should do, or say to her the next weekend?
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How could she not feel anything after being your girl for 2 months?
Day walker, night stalker
hiu115 said:
How could she not feel anything after being your girl for 2 months?
Day walker, night stalker
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A dota player. i see. bet ya'r single
ArmorD said:
Just start acting like you're really into her. Ask her to hang out(more often), text her good night every day and pay attention to her. Also pay attention to your appearance. It matters to her believe me. That's how women work.
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Yeah.. Seeing her more often should be a priority, but first I have to win her back... And escape the friendzone.
hiu115 said:
How could she not feel anything after being your girl for 2 months?
Day walker, night stalker
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Dunno. We haven't hung out much. That's the reason. She said she likes me very much, but as a friend... Like.. The worst way a girl could like a guy.
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A dota player. i see. bet ya'r single
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Been with a cute girl once, but we broke up. Yes, it's because of dota. Yet i can't stop playing, this game helped me move on.
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Dunno. We haven't hung out much. That's the reason. She said she likes me very much, but as a friend... Like.. The worst way a girl could like a guy.
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It's not easy understanding a girl, but for this problem, you can start by asking her to go out.
Idk if this helps, but chicks dig funny men.
Day walker, night stalker
See what happened to a similar thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40894560
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41032443
By the way..good luck!
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i had a talk with M_T_M for a permanent thread on relationship advises. he seemed to have no interest in the threads whatsoever except in closing them. but its better to have a organized forum so the thread should not be a problem provided this thread stays on topic.
CnC-ROCK said:
i had a talk with M_T_M for a permanent thread on relationship advises. he seemed to have no interest in the threads whatsoever except in closing them. but its better to have a organized forum so the thread should not be a problem provided this thread stays on topic.
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It seems you have more interest in these threads more than the op himself
Day walker, night stalker
hiu115 said:
It seems you have more interest in these threads more than the op himself
Day walker, night stalker
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well i know how its feels to have your heart crushed. i just hope that it does not happen to other people so i hope that this thread wont be closed. i dont think that should be a problem for you.
CnC-ROCK said:
i had a talk with M_T_M for a permanent thread on relationship advises. he seemed to have no interest in the threads whatsoever except in closing them. but its better to have a organized forum so the thread should not be a problem provided this thread stays on topic.
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Let us hope so..but by the number of troll here at ot..i doubt that..
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It seems you have more interest in these threads more than the op himself
Day walker, night stalker
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Lol! Good one..:thumbup:
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it won't just don't feed trolls,
well typically strong emotions are the cause of certain "mishaps" in exchange of words.
This is the internet.
If you want advice on love or you have a hard time coping with your emotional breakdown you have friends and families to share it.
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Let us hope so..but by the number of troll here at ot..i doubt that..
Lol! Good one..:thumbup:
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i am an anti-troll. so nothing to worry about until the mods start trolling.
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well i know how its feels to have your heart crushed. i just hope that it does not happen to other people so i hope that this thread wont be closed. i dont think that should be a problem for you.
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Dude..i feel you man..i still trying to heal myself since last year..still can't..
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deathnotice01 said:
it won't just don't feed trolls,
well typically strong emotions are the cause of certain "mishaps" in exchange of words.
This is the internet.
If you want advice on love or you have a hard time coping with your emotional breakdown you have friends and families to share it.
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it can be hard to share such things with family sometimes.
mike_disturbed said:
Dude..i feel you man..i still trying to heal myself since last year..still can't..
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Well emotional healing is a process, and like all processes it takes time to complete.
Trust me words cannot make you feel any better, these types of things are those that you need to set out for yourself, do a little soul searching and get your mind ahead, know what you really want in life and think ahead since there will be no use looking back.
deathnotice01 said:
Well emotional healing is a process, and like all processes it takes time to complete.
Trust me words cannot make you feel any better, these types of things are those that you need to set out for yourself, do a little soul searching and get your mind ahead, know what you really want in life and think ahead since there will be no use looking back.
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not sure if trolling or trying to help
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it can be hard to share such things with family sometimes.
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i hear ya,
but just have someone to talk to,
don't keep the pain to yourself since that is the root cause of long term emotional instablility.
keep a good quality human interaction going with your problems, open it up so someone who cares and will listen to you
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not sure if trolling or trying to help
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if i was trolling i'd do this
For people who can't get over an ex:
First, accept the fact that you two can't be together again. Second, admit that you made a mistake and promise to yourself you won't repeat it again. I know it's hard to forget that you once had a feeling on her, and i do know it won't be gone in a short time, but use the chance to hang out with your friends, family, ones that you forgotten while in a relationship. Spend time with them. Eventually you'll find an angel worth your time
PS: If you really had success with this advice, then congrats, you followed and advice from the guy who failed his last relationship
Day walker, night stalker
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i dont think that should be a problem for you.
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Actually it is.
Day walker, night stalker
Edited for the lord moderators.
Jumping crackerjacks! A petition!! YAY!!
/me cracks knuckles....
Where to start? For starters, I think that the best course of action is to take your entire petition apart and basically counter each and every single one of your "points".
you said:
The enthusiasts at xda have built a thriving community of people at various skill levels all in the name of pushing the potential of our devices. In recent years membership has surged to nearly astronomical numbers, but this ultimately has lead to a very large issue. Newer members need help that is understood but at the same time XDA's rule #1 is to search.
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True to all this...
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Moderators and staff have turned a blind eye to this rule using the justification of ignorance.
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I am sorry... what? Are you seriously accusing the moderator staff of pretending that the rule does not exist?? And calling moderators/members/both ignorant? Under what grounds are you calling people ignorant? The "art" of searching on the site is not dead and we enforce it by reminding people that they need to search. We are not going to go around banning and infracting every person who asks something without searching because that would be ridiculous and a monumental waste of time. Four things can happen out of people not searching and asking right away:
1. They get the answer;
2. They get flamed;
3. They get directed to the answer and then flamed;
4. They get reported to us, in which case, most moderators will direct the person in the appropriate direction with a little reminder of where the search button is located.
The last one does not often happen because people over the years have learned to ask and wait for an answer in the correct section. So, moderator involvement for this minor offense has been limited to moving the question to Q&A for the most part.
Get your facts straight before you go off accusing people of things you don't even know.
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People are not required to search or read which has lead to many threads becoming chaotic and often flooded with the same questions repeated many times. I know I personally have reported these people only to be told the moderators will not take action against those who blatantly disregard rule #1.
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Again, read above. The only action we do take is to move the question out of the thread and into the proper area. Some moderators will go the extra mile and help the person in question (I know I still do to this day whenever I move a question... if I know the answer, I move the question and reply to it trying to help the member). I have been a member for FAR longer than you have been (and I know that your reg date is not when you started using our site) and "not searching" or posting questions where they don't belong has been an issue for as long as I can remember. People are, have, and will ALWAYS be required to search. In fact, in order to tackle this we have gone the extra mile and implemented things like Q&A areas, XDA Assist, etc. However, we do not ban people for not searching, plain and simple... never have, and never will. Your thread and the petition are called "equal enforcement of the rules", if you have reported members as many times as you claim, and have always gotten the same response (mods will take no further actions other than maybe moving the question), then I would think that the enforcement is rather even across the board.
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Nearly every bit of information you could ever need exists on XDA but as people continue to clutter the site with nonsense and repeated questions it becomes harder and harder to find the relevant info creating a cycle that needs to be broken sooner rather than later.
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The forum will continue to grow... I am sorry but there is no cycle to be broken. What needs to happen is that users need to be educated to know how to search for the information they so desperately need.
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I petition the one of three things happen at xda, 1.) Remove rule #1 completely " This would resolve this issue as if the rule does not exist then there is not need for a reaction by the staff thereby eliminating the inequality in the staffs treatment of offenders for rule violations."
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With all due respect, why don't we also eliminate the 10 Commandments while we are at it? Eliminating the "Thou shall not kill", should alleviate all the tensions in the Middle East and people would not get so riled up every time a bomb goes off near a school, don't you think? Screw speed limits as well!! This is great! I will get to floor my Bugatti Veyron in a school zone!!!! YAY.... Anarchy FTW!
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2.) Create a rule for the moderation staff to enforce all rules equally "This would solve the issue utilizing the current issue escalation, users will be warned upon first offense and then it will escalate into points being added and eventually banning."
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Uhmm... that is exactly how we do things, except for special cases such as people posting racist, religious, sexual, or other kinds of comments aimed at someone's persona (death threats or threats of physical violence for instance). Spammers/spambots are probably the only other time we go for the kill right away. We take most cases to the absolute extreme in attempts to educate our users and try to give them chances. To put things in perspective, normally, for regular offenses, a member is not banned until like the 3rd or 4th time a moderator has to be in touch with him/her. (warning->infraction->infraction->short ban->Longer ban->permanent ban).... quite a few opportunities before a member is denied access altogether, if you ask me.
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3.) Give each device a Jr. Moderator that actually owns and spends time in said devices section. " Moderators are volunteers, typically you have a strict set of criteria that the more knowledgeable and irritated users cannot meet. Ignore past offenses and create a set of standards for these users that allow them to help maintain their sections while also keeping their attitudes in check."
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Why don't we go ahead and employ a sex offender as a kindergarten teacher as well? Forget about past offenses.... Our moderators must meet certain criteria to be accepted as moderators, but knowledge about a specific device is not one of them. You know why? Because in this day and age, where devices become obsolete within a year of release, and people changing them that often, we would have to fire all of/most of our staff within a year's time. Each device has a TEAM of moderators assigned to it (more than 1 "jr moderator") We had "your model" until some time in 2010-2011, right around the dawn of Android, but it didn't work anymore due to the sheer growth of the site (both in number of fora and member base). So, as for your idea (the part about the Jr mod anyways)... been there, done that. As for the rest of your idea, about using "bad members" with a relaxed set of criteria to moderate the site.... how about no?
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There are only about 100 moderators for the whole site. Given the sheer number of members which is in the millions now, 100 is an unacceptable number and there is no way they could maintain the forums with any level of efficiency or standards.
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And what is, according to you anyways, an acceptable number? 1:1 ratio? 1:10000? I am sorry but the fora are extremely well maintained for the sheer number of people who frequent the site. Also, you do realize that having the moderator title is FAR more than just having the ability to ban people, right? It involves training, discussions, policy creation, resource management. This is a far more complex engine that you think it is. I seriously believe that you haven't got the faintest clue as to what you are saying/suggesting here as you haven't got a clue as to how the site actually works or how it has evolved over the last 5 years or so.
So, all things considered, it looks like #2 is something we already do.... so, we complied with one of the above points, which is what your petition was going for.
Thank you for playing.
PS. You posted in the wrong section. Why didn't you search for the correct section to post? It should have been posted in General, not Off Topic. Now I am simply going to open the floor to everyone (moderators and OT regulars alike), to do what you all do best with threads.....
I SUMMON CATS, SPIDEY, AND PONIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Did I do it right...?
@egzthunder1 I respect your opinion but I still disagree with you. Things are still off and reporting doesn't seem to help so of course you will continue the way you have and that's fine. I do understand the system but it's flawed to me.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Also I've had this in general and off topic after the other was deleted.
Oh for the love of god, why do people find it so hard to follow rules. I've been a member of xda for over 2 years and I've only had an issue with a recognized developer once and it was my own fault for being stupid. Is this really being brought up? C'mon now people... move on with the little incidental things
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@egzthunder1 I respect your opinion but I still disagree with you. Things are still off and reporting doesn't seem to help so of course you will continue the way you have and that's fine. I do understand the system but it's flawed to me.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
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Baby tasting foot
Argument invalid
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Oh for the love of god, why do people find it so hard to follow rules. I've been a member of xda for over 2 years and I've only had an issue with a recognized developer once and it was my own fault for being stupid. Is this really being brought up? C'mon now people... move on with the little incidental things
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Rational thought
boborone said:
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Rational thought
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Yea and a little lighter fluid lol
And for the record I do notice a lot of people not bothering to search, I'll go out of my way mostly because I enjoy helping people and letting them know what I've learned by simply reading but some people take it to the extreme
Thank you all for proving that the rules only apply when they are convenient. As these moderators have allowed the flaming instead of moderating and deleting. I posted my opinion and I was trying to see if others felt the same. Even if you don't you've broken the very rules you agreed to uphold. Well done.
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@egzthunder1 I respect your opinion but I still disagree with you. Things are still off and reporting doesn't seem to help so of course you will continue the way you have and that's fine. I do understand the system but it's flawed to me.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Also I've had this in general and off topic after the other was deleted.
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Actually I would dare say you do NOT understand the system, thus why it seems flawed to you. Given that we already do one of the things that you suggested we do, seems to me that you just plain don't understand how we do things.
XDA membership is not a right, nor is it mandated - it is a privilege and if you just can't understand it or don't like it, there's no one standing around you demanding that you stay on XDA.
If there is though, blink twice so we can alert the proper authorities.
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Yea and a little lighter fluid lol
And for the record I do notice a lot of people not bothering to search, I'll go out of my way mostly because I enjoy helping people and letting them know what I've learned by simply reading but some people take it to the extreme
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Yes you are correct. People will always whinge, not follow rules, not search, etc. I will say though, good work going above and beyond to share what you have learned. That is what XDA is about.
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Yes you are correct. People will always whinge, not follow rules, not search, etc. I will say though, good work going above and beyond to share what you have learned. That is what XDA is about.
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"People will always whinge, ..."
"whinge"
WHINGE
???
[emoji117] [emoji108] ?
There it's been removed highnesses.
Anyone have a link to the petition?
I can haz petition link?
jerdog said:
Yes you are correct. People will always whinge, not follow rules, not search, etc. I will say though, good work going above and beyond to share what you have learned. That is what XDA is about.
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I figure I learned it by reading what other people posted and those same people that helped me I can go to if I need help. Nothing like passing along what you've learned, it definitely helps others
From my S3 on Wicked 4.3
TheCybertronian said:
There it's been removed highnesses.
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