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All Those Tilt Buyers Who Constantly Post...

Keep posting your wonderful tilt buys in all the threads as you wish!!!

jackieboy said:
Wel All Make Mistakes.
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LOL you got that right.

jackieboy said:
And How You Gor It For 299
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Mine was only $150.

jackieboy said:
For The Love Of God Please Stop Posting Your Damn Shopping Lists In All The Threads, I Dont Think Any Of Us Really Care How Much You Paid For Your Tilt.
Enough Please Stop Stop Stop Discussing Your Buying In Threads That Dont Deal With It. Sh-t Your Worse Then Women Shoppers, Keep It To Each Other Or In A Designated Thread, Your Serioulsy Causing Traffic In The Threads, People Are Not Reading The Thread Properly Because You Switch Subjects, Stick To The Thread Topic, The Kaiser Thread Is Becoming So Cluttered With Repeptetive Questions And That Same Old Prpeier Sh-t With Att And How You Gor It For 299 Please Stop! Now The Kaiser Sections Looks Like The Hermes Section Full Of Stupid Questions, Why Do I Say Stupid, Because It Was Answered! I Dont Care How Bad A Question Is If Its Original. Neither Do I Think Any Of The Real Pros Mind Aswering It Either If Its Original.
And Please Dont Be Offended, Just Think About It And Stop. Wel All Make Mistakes. And Yes We All Get Excited But I Cant Even Find A Relevent Thhead And Its Not Just Me, A Few Friends Have Said The Same Thhing, So If You Got A Problem With
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My post wasnt a mistake, It was deliberate. Just dont read the thread if you know the topic is about what some members has paid for there phone! But since i feel your coming off so pissed about it, then ill hijak as well. ONCE AGAIN I got mine for 265.00. Non-contract, out the door, no change of data plan!

jackieboy said:
For The Love Of God Please Stop Posting Your Damn Shopping Lists In All The Threads, I Dont Think Any Of Us Really Care How Much You Paid For Your Tilt.
Enough Please Stop Stop Stop Discussing Your Buying In Threads That Dont Deal With It. Sh-t Your Worse Then Women Shoppers, Keep It To Each Other Or In A Designated Thread, Your Serioulsy Causing Traffic In The Threads, People Are Not Reading The Thread Properly Because You Switch Subjects, Stick To The Thread Topic, The Kaiser Thread Is Becoming So Cluttered With Repeptetive Questions And That Same Old Premier Sh-t With Att And How You Gor It For 299 Please Stop! Now The Kaiser Sections Looks Like The Hermes Section Full Of Stupid Questions, Why Do I Say Stupid, Because It Was Answered! I Dont Care How Bad A Question Is If Its Original. Neither Do I Think Any Of The Real Pros Mind Aswering It Either If Its Original.
And Please Dont Be Offended, Just Think About It And Stop. Wel All Make Mistakes. And Yes We All Get Excited But I Cant Even Find A Relevent Thhead And Its Not Just Me, A Few Friends Have Said The Same Thhing, So If You Got A Problem With
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Son, we live in a world that has websites, and those websites have to be visited by men with computers. Who’s gonna visit them all? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You curse the newbs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That a newb’s life, while tragic, probably creates traffic and advertising opportunities. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, creates traffic. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in chatrooms, you want me on that computer, you need me on that computer. We use words like help… and please… and thanks. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent lurking. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very web traffic and advertising that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a keyboard and answer a post. Either way, I don't give a darn what you think you are entitled to.

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Son, we live in a world that has websites, and those websites have to be visited by men with computers. Who’s gonna visit them all? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You curse the newbs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That a newb’s life, while tragic, probably creates traffic and advertising opportunities. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, creates traffic. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in chatrooms, you want me on that computer, you need me on that computer. We use words like help… and please… and thanks. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent lurking. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very web traffic and advertising that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a keyboard and answer a post. Either way, I don't give a darn what you think you are entitled to.
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HAHA...nice

smuook, that was a rather funny post!

kinda hard to read when hes got the whole capitalise every word thing going on. lol @ smuook bravo... encore!!

jockieboy or boy, don't you read the title before you read the whole thread, if you don't like the title of the thread, don't read it.

marm0lade said:
Mine was only $150.
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Damn I got mine for $225 on the first day it was out.

This thread seems a bit off-topic...

Any reason why you capitalize every word in your post? I stopped at the first sentence because it's so hard to read.

Jackieboy, does that go for everyone that needs to brag in their signature about what they have and how they have it tweaked?

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That's mad comedy yo!

jackieboy said:
For The Love Of God Please Stop Posting Your Damn Shopping Lists In All The Threads, I Dont Think Any Of Us Really Care How Much You Paid For Your Tilt.
Enough Please Stop Stop Stop Discussing Your Buying In Threads That Dont Deal With It. Sh-t Your Worse Then Women Shoppers, Keep It To Each Other Or In A Designated Thread, Your Serioulsy Causing Traffic In The Threads, People Are Not Reading The Thread Properly Because You Switch Subjects, Stick To The Thread Topic, The Kaiser Thread Is Becoming So Cluttered With Repeptetive Questions And That Same Old Premier Sh-t With Att And How You Gor It For 299 Please Stop! Now The Kaiser Sections Looks Like The Hermes Section Full Of Stupid Questions, Why Do I Say Stupid, Because It Was Answered! I Dont Care How Bad A Question Is If Its Original. Neither Do I Think Any Of The Real Pros Mind Aswering It Either If Its Original.
And Please Dont Be Offended, Just Think About It And Stop. Wel All Make Mistakes. And Yes We All Get Excited But I Cant Even Find A Relevent Thhead And Its Not Just Me, A Few Friends Have Said The Same Thhing, So If You Got A Problem With
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I presume your post was about maximizing efficiency and in that case, here's a piece of advice for you as well. Your word count suggests you hit the caps on/off key 416 useless times, not to mention how annoying it is for readers.
Pleasantries aside...The reduced size of PDAs, their increased functionality, Apple's mega marketing machine and kickass iPhone have combined to bring Pocket PCs into the mainstream. With that comes mainstream consumers who hit websites such as this for information. I am one of them and it's true, perhaps I should hesitate before posting. But for every 10000 new Pocket PC enthusiasts that come along, there is one person who's an adept programmer and contributes something of value. IMHO it makes avoiding threads or comments that don't agree with me such a non issue.

Its so funny how so many of you really really got hurt by my comment, awww im so sorry.
Only I got to answer the caps thing cause I myself was bothered by why that happened, I certainly did not take the time to caps each word.
And this thread is def. making me and my friends on here laugh, especially nitpicking my words, is that all you have on me wow, if it makes you feel that good, then go for it, keep posting your buys in every thread and make it even harder for guys and those who contribute information. I have the time to write this because not that it just bothers me but I am trying to stop the threads that go on for pages when its a disccusion of a price that is not neccessary. It's obvious that most of you who have responded don't care and that is selfish. But you don't care anyway's I mean you haven't even donated a dime.

princeasi said:
I know I started a thread about purchase price on the kaiser, but it was created in the kaiser thread! I have not seen any other threads on this in this forum, so i dont know why jackieboy would even start a cornball thread like this! Im sure most people on here post there purchase price in this thread in resentment torwards jackieboy's comments!
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I started this thread because I kept reading other threads where one person is asking a question about a rom, and another guys got into a conversation about a price, and then the next 3 pages were about his premier price and the thread which dealt about a rom now was lost in prices. Then another thread about today screens, and again the damn price thing popped up, and then the nght i wrote this thread another idiot changed the topic and spoke about geting his tilt for 199. Now you try to look for a topic and when you read and when I say read, I mean read the entire thread from page 1 until the present and when you get's off topic over a price see if it bothers you.
I don't see how this doesnt bother anyone else? maybe because you don't read a thread entirely but I do, this isn't personal, I havent mentioned anyones names or attacked anyone, I am attacking the idea of posting you great buy in a thread that has nothign to do with you calling ATT and asking for a premier price. And for the record, I got the TILT for $99.00 with no premier account. And I posted that in a relevent thread.
Why does asking people not to mention their price in every thread a problem.

wow you are so serious, smile it wont kill you!
But anyway, I don't want you to fall of your chair or even blow. Here's the deal, cause you obviously have not enderstood anything I wrote. I simply said, don't keep posting tilt prices in threads that don't deal with tilt prices. Is that so complicated or insulting.
As for being a Newb, So am I, I ask allot of questions and I was told to do a search, but when I want to look for tilt rom and in the process I have to read pages of a thread, that deals with certain rom mention the price and then having 10 other people conversing back about the price it confuses the thread. Many people cant properly find the answer to their questions because people who get so excited post unrelevent information in a thread that doesnt deal with that issue.
Moderators usually stop it, but why have them do it, just devote a thread to your silly Tilt buying tactics and keep it there, how is thsi insulting to you or anyone else. I even contributed to that thread and mentioned I got my Tilt for 99.00 and explained how, but what I will tell you is that I didn;t post it in Duty's test Rom 3, because it has no buisness of being there.
This is my reply I've gotten 30 PM's from people who agree with me but don't have the balls to support me on here, so so you can sleep and relax I not only removed my thread, which I wrote. I removed it not because I have the idea if you can;t beet em join em, but because I realized there wil always be those who will not read and those that will always put down those who tell the truth. I should have realized that before I thought of trying to make a difference and urge people to just stop and read, But if moderators can't stop stupid Newbies then who am I. So I am going to close this and guess what you won! are you happy you win! I give up!
smuook said:
Son, we live in a world that has websites, and those websites have to be visited by men with computers. Who’s gonna visit them all? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You curse the newbs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That a newb’s life, while tragic, probably creates traffic and advertising opportunities. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, creates traffic. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in chatrooms, you want me on that computer, you need me on that computer. We use words like help… and please… and thanks. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent lurking. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very web traffic and advertising that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a keyboard and answer a post. Either way, I don't give a darn what you think you are entitled to.
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TaurusBullba said:
This thread seems a bit off-topic...
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Great well now all you people can post your price in this thread and leave the others alone. Somethign was accomplished!
So I got mine for 99.00 and I am posting the receipt in a seperate thread.

Who do I contact in case of...

I post this in Off-topic because its not related to the phones.
I recently received a Racism/Stereotypical Infraction for saying that I do not want to deal with Indians if AT&T merges with T-mobile, and that Indian calling centers are horrible.
So who do I contact to dispute it? Would I get ban next time if I say Indians, Americans, Mexicans, Italians? Its ridiculous.

AntonJart said:
I post this in Off-topic because its not related to the phones.
I recently received a Racism/Stereotypical Infraction for saying that I do not want to deal with Indians if AT&T merges with T-mobile, and that Indian calling centers are horrible.
So who do I contact to dispute it? Would I get ban next time if I say Indians, Americans, Mexicans, Italians? Its ridiculous.
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Get used to it, buddy.
I lost count of the number of unfair infractions that I got for posting up jokes.
As long as someone is pissed...
*shrugs*

Let me guess , it was in general or networking ?
If you got infraction points u should write to an admin , similar rediculous stuff happened me but didnt get points so i didnt make a deal about it
My favourite one is when a guy opens a blatantly obvious flame bait iphone thread in general(what does xda have to do with iphones?) , i advise him theres an iphone-developers site not so far, and i get an infraction .... gfg

You think it's a good idea to repeat what you said here when you've already been warned about it?
In before the ban

DirkGently1 said:
You think it's a good idea to repeat what you said here when you've already been warned about it?
In before the ban
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People in this thread would probably not get pissed. I wouldn't if someone cracked jokes about Malaysia or Chinese, because it will be real funny.
I suppose that being overly politically correct would be just stifling, especially since a lot of people are defined by their cultural stereotypes. On that note, if we would be completely homogeneous, there would be no differentiation and soylent green would be an acceptably delicious food item.
Of course, I laughed at the OP's crack at Indians. I still remember Slumdog Millionaire
It doesn't help that the OP could possibly be right, and sometimes Indians have a way of over-rrrrrolling their rrrrrs in a funny way to the point that it is difficult to understand.
/Dealt with Indians
//Yes, they do rrrrrrrroll theirrrrr rrrrrrrs
///While rrrrrrolling theirrrrr heads
////Afterrrrrrr a while, you tend to rrrrroll with them

Surely you do understand that if xda does not punish you in some way for making a rascist comment then they are seen to be condoning it, and therefore being rascist themselves?
The slightest remark that tarnishes any particular race of people has to be considered rascist, whether the intention was to hurt or not.
They're just doing their "job". Get over it, move on, and don't do it again

johncmolyneux said:
Surely you do understand that if xda does not punish you in some way for making a rascist comment then they are seen to be condoning it, and therefore being rascist themselves?
The slightest remark that tarnishes any particular race of people has to be considered rascist, whether the intention was to hurt or not.
They're just doing their "job". Get over it, move on, and don't do it again
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+1
10char. Or so

johncmolyneux said:
Surely you do understand that if xda does not punish you in some way for making a rascist comment then they are seen to be condoning it, and therefore being rascist themselves?
The slightest remark that tarnishes any particular race of people has to be considered rascist, whether the intention was to hurt or not.
They're just doing their "job". Get over it, move on, and don't do it again
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Noob i see you fail to understand his point , so lemme help ya out ,
His problem was he was labelled as racist commenter while he wasnt one. It had nothing to do with what your talking about , it. was. not. racism. Get that in your head .
He was pointing out the fact that he'd rather not deal with a callcenter whos employees do not speak english as a first language , and thats perfectly understandable , who wouldnt try to avoid the hassle situations like that bring unavoidably ? Even if you dont mind , its his choice .
Let me know how its going and leave me a note if you need further assistance on this mattter

souljaboy said:
He was pointing out the fact that he'd rather not deal with a callcenter whos employees do not speak english as a first language , and thats perfectly understandable
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That's not what I read. What I read was the actual words that were on this page. ..
AntonJart said:
I do not want to deal with Indians if AT&T merges with T-mobile, and that Indian calling centers are horrible.
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Which is why I responded with...
johncmolyneux said:
The slightest remark that tarnishes any particular race of people has to be considered rascist, whether the intention was to hurt or not.
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If he doesn't have the wherewithal to say "I'd rather speak to a native english speaking person than someone who may have an accent that I don't understand", then he should keep his comments to himself. I do suspect, however, that he's perfectly capable of being clear about his issue, and does not require people to make up stories about what he meant when he said something else.

johncmolyneux said:
That's not what I read. What I read was the actual words that were on this page. ..
Which is why I responded with...
If he doesn't have the wherewithal to say "I'd rather speak to a native english speaking person than someone who may have an accent that I don't understand", then he should keep his comments to himself. I do suspect, however, that he's perfectly capable of being clear about his issue, and does not require people to make up stories about what he meant when he said something else.
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Chill bro... souljaboy is the No.1 troll in XDA off-topic... ignore him

Before this thread gets closed...
Perhaps just saying:
"I'm sorry, I did not intend for what I said to sound racist, I'll try to be more careful in future how I say things"
Would probably avoided the points etc. But yeah, don't worry about it, it'll not go into your school report and I'm sure no one will bring it up if you become President.
It is all subjective, like bad language, sometimes I don't even notice it on TV and sometimes even the slightest not-even-a-swear-word can annoy me.
I'm sure you didn't intend to be racist and if that is the case, no problem. It was probably the potential discussion that could have developed rather than the comment itself.
sakai4eva said:
Chill bro... souljaboy is the No.1 troll in XDA off-topic... ignore him
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meltwater said:
Perhaps just saying:
"I'm sorry, I did not intend for what I said to sound racist, I'll try to be more careful in future how I say things"
Would probably avoided the points etc.
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you do know the mods dont send you a pm asking if you regret what you said before issuing an infraction ?

sakai4eva said:
Chill bro... souljaboy is the No.1 troll in XDA off-topic... ignore him
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Yeah, I figured that one already, cheers. Trolls have feelings too though!

sakai ... no.1 backstabber

souljaboy said:
you do know the mods dont send you a pm asking if you regret what you said before issuing an infraction ?
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Until they are replaced with modbots, they might respond to reason.
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If you have an issue with how you have been treated, PM an admin or report your infraction...don't start these kind of threads.

Myriam Joire: Engadget members being banned &critical posts removed 4 personal agenda

Myriam Joire: Engadget members being banned &critical posts removed 4 personal agenda
I wanted to make the community here aware of the fact that longtime members of engadget.com are being banned and having their posts deleted if they are critical of the lack of professionalism exhibited by Myriam Joire aka @tnkgrl, an editor at Engadget.
Recently, she did a video interview of an international tech executive at the Mobile World Congress while representing the Engadget community. He appearance was completely unprofessional and a distraction. Engadget should be a site focused on tech and it's community of tech followers, not one editor's personal agenda.
The appearance of executives, especially in media, reflects on their entire organization and it's community. A semi-professional appearance is an obvious must for interviewing international tech executives. Anything less disrespects those being interviewed and the entire community as a whole.
I feel the that Joire's initial lack of professionalism, followed by the completely unwarranted censorship of longtime members who were critical of her lack of professionalism, warrants Myriam Joire being removed from the Engadget staff.
I hope members here stand up for those being censored and banned at Engadget because of Joire's personal agenda and call for her removal.
Thank you.
Update:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/28/the-engadget-interview-nokia-lead-for-imaging-experience-nokia/
The above is what I am referring to.
I, and many others, understandably assumed the interviewer was a man, and thought his appearance was completely unprofessional.
The fact that the interviewer happens to be, in fact, a women, just makes it even worse.

tt c6 said:
I wanted to make the community here aware of the fact that longtime members of engadget.com are being banned and having their posts deleted if they are critical of the lack of professionalism exhibited by Myriam Joire aka @tnkgrl, an editor at Engadget.
Recently, she did a video interview of an international tech executive at the Mobile World Congress while representing the Engadget community. He appearance was completely unprofessional and a distraction. Engadget should be a site focused on tech and it's community of tech followers, not one editor's personal agenda.
The appearance of executives, especially in media, reflects on their entire organization and it's community. A semi-professional appearance is an obvious must for interviewing international tech executives. Anything less disrespects those being interviewed and the entire community as a whole.
I feel the that Joire's initial lack of professionalism, followed by the completely unwarranted censorship of longtime members who were critical of her lack of professionalism, warrants Myriam Joire being removed from the Engadget staff.
I hope members here stand up for those being censored and banned at Engadget because of Joire's personal agenda and call for her removal.
Thank you.
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whoa, i'm confused here. Who's the one being unprofessional? Joire or the members?

hiu115 said:
whoa, i'm confused here. Who's the one being unprofessional? Joire or the members?
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Take a look at that link I added above.
That is completely unacceptable appearance for a man, or a woman, when interviewing an international executive, especially on camera.
If you disagree, you must have an agenda of your own.
Sexuality had NOTHING to do with this.
Barney Frank and Janet Reno have no problem with their professional appearance on camera.
Members go to endadget to read about tech, not to have someone's personal agenda forced down their throats.
Engadget editors and interviewers represent the engadget community, and should do so in a professional manner.

Sorry, what is unacceptable?
Her appearance?
If people were posting comments about her appearance and they were deleted then quite rightly so as they would be off topic and irrelevant.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

Everyone has there only rights to how they run their life, so stop being picky about small things....

Who cares what She (or anyone for that matter) looks like. Myriam is a well known tech journalist and really knows Her stuff.
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htc fan89 said:
Everyone has there only rights to how they run their life
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I absolutely agree.
This is about a journalist and interviewer having a professional appearance. This has nothing to do with anyone's personal life.
When you are in the public eye, you have a responsibility to respect your organization and the organizations you deal with by presenting a professional public appearance.
If you re-read my original post, I thought the interviewers appearance was completely inappropriate when I understandably thought she was a man.
This has nothing to do with someone's sexuality.
I've had long hair, a mohawk, tattoos, tanktops, leather, sports jerseys, etc. But, when I am representing my company, I put all of those things aside because I am responsible to present a professional appearance when doing do.
If you can't see the point I am making, you don't understand business and media or your simply have your own agenda .
Regardless, Myriam's appearance in interviews and the censorship of long time members is completely unprofessional and unacceptable and she should be removed from the Engadget staff.

I think you are overreacting to an issue that, at this point, is arguably a non issue. Myriam Joire is a well known tech journalist that has done hundreds of interviews. No one else has an issue, with her appearance. I think you're just mad no one else here agrees with you.
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Babydoll25 said:
I think you are overreacting to an issue that, at this point, is arguably a non issue. Myriam Joire is a well known tech journalist that has done hundreds of interviews. No one else has an issue, with her appearance. I think you're just mad no one else here agrees with you.
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It became an issue when people started getting banned and had their posts removed without cause.
Many people posted with the same issue I had with her lack of professionalism and their posts were removed and they were banned. So, I am not alone.
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If you can't see the point I am making, you don't understand business and media or your simply have your own agenda.
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tt c6 said:
It became an issue when people started getting banned and had their posts removed without cause.
Many people posted with the same issue I had with her lack of professionalism and their posts were removed and they were banned. So, I am not alone.
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So, you trolled....
You got banned...
Sounds reasonable to me.
What is the "agenda" here? I fail to see what you're so pissed off about... Since when was it a legal requirement to wear a two piece suit to talk about a camera phone on the internet??
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Only one thing to say to this really.
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I guess the personal agenda of Engadget is to not have their interviewers discriminated against by their members. How shocking

conantroutman said:
So, you trolled....
You got banned...
Sounds reasonable to me.
What is the "agenda" here? I fail to see what you're so pissed off about... Since when was it a legal requirement to wear a two piece suit to talk about a camera phone on the internet??
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Did you even look at that video?
If I represented my company looking like that I would be fired in a heartbeat. I wouldn't even consider disrespecting my employer or my community by representing them like that in the first place.
Trolling? It's not trolling to post that our website and our community should be represented in a professional manner.
Do you see Anderson Cooper on TV with a ridiculous haircut that's only purpose is to cause a distraction? How about with over a dozen piercings in his head and face? Do you see him on TV with a hooded sweatshirt with the sleeves pushed up to specifically show off a collection of randomly placed tattoos? No, you don't.
Don't try to transfer the burden of this issue to the many members that posted they had an issue with her lack of professionalism and were censored and banned. Don't try to transform an issue about professionalism and censorship into trolling or anything else that it isn't.

Temper, temper mate
I have no idea what is it that you are trying to do here and could really care less.
Just relax and stay cool or you might have to post about you being banned from here on another site...capische?
And no smart comebacks from you.....warned, you've been
Edit: After a 30 second deliberation...thread closed.
Regards,
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Did you even look at that video?
If I represented my company looking like that I would be fired in a heartbeat. I wouldn't even consider disrespecting my employer or my community by representing them like that in the first place.
Trolling? It's not trolling to post that our website and our community be represented in a professional manner.
Do you see Anderson Cooper on TV with a ridiculous haircut that's only purpose is to cause a distraction? How about with over a dozen piercings in his head and face? Do you see him on TV with a hooded sweatshirt with the sleeves pushed up to specifically show off a collection of randomly placed tattoos?
No, you don't.
Don't try to transfer the burden of this issue to the many members that had an issue with it. Don't try to transform an issue about professionalism and censorship into trolling or anything else that it isn't.
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Did you even look at that video?
If I represented my company looking like that I would be fired in a heartbeat. I wouldn't even consider disrespecting my employer or my community by representing them like that in the first place.
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Yes I saw it.
Your company is neither here nor there, her employers clearly have no issue with it so why the hell should you?
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Trolling? It's not trolling to post that our website and our community should be represented in a professional manner.
Do you see Anderson Cooper on TV with a ridiculous haircut that's only purpose is to cause a distraction? How about with over a dozen piercings in his head and face? Do you see him on TV with a hooded sweatshirt with the sleeves pushed up to specifically show off a collection of randomly placed tattoos? No, you don't.
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It is trolling to make off topic comments with the sole intention of provoking a negative response. I don't even think you're actually a troll. Trolls do this for fun, I think that you are the one with the "Agenda" here.....
I have no idea who Anderson Cooper is and it's irrelevant....
How does his appearance on TV have any relevance to someone on a website? A website that, last time I checked, was owned by AOL, not you and anyone else who comments there...
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Don't try to transfer the burden of this issue to the many members that posted they had an issue with her lack of professionalism and were censored and banned. Don't try to transform an issue about professionalism and censorship into trolling or anything else that it isn't.
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This is laughable....
The only one burdened with this issue seems to be you and the only unjust censorship seems to be you attempting to influence the way someone chooses to dress when they are doing their job.
Leave that to their employers and take your butthurt elsewhere.

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Jumping crackerjacks! A petition!! YAY!!
/me cracks knuckles....
Where to start? For starters, I think that the best course of action is to take your entire petition apart and basically counter each and every single one of your "points".
you said:
The enthusiasts at xda have built a thriving community of people at various skill levels all in the name of pushing the potential of our devices. In recent years membership has surged to nearly astronomical numbers, but this ultimately has lead to a very large issue. Newer members need help that is understood but at the same time XDA's rule #1 is to search.
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True to all this...
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Moderators and staff have turned a blind eye to this rule using the justification of ignorance.
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I am sorry... what? Are you seriously accusing the moderator staff of pretending that the rule does not exist?? And calling moderators/members/both ignorant? Under what grounds are you calling people ignorant? The "art" of searching on the site is not dead and we enforce it by reminding people that they need to search. We are not going to go around banning and infracting every person who asks something without searching because that would be ridiculous and a monumental waste of time. Four things can happen out of people not searching and asking right away:
1. They get the answer;
2. They get flamed;
3. They get directed to the answer and then flamed;
4. They get reported to us, in which case, most moderators will direct the person in the appropriate direction with a little reminder of where the search button is located.
The last one does not often happen because people over the years have learned to ask and wait for an answer in the correct section. So, moderator involvement for this minor offense has been limited to moving the question to Q&A for the most part.
Get your facts straight before you go off accusing people of things you don't even know.
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People are not required to search or read which has lead to many threads becoming chaotic and often flooded with the same questions repeated many times. I know I personally have reported these people only to be told the moderators will not take action against those who blatantly disregard rule #1.
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Again, read above. The only action we do take is to move the question out of the thread and into the proper area. Some moderators will go the extra mile and help the person in question (I know I still do to this day whenever I move a question... if I know the answer, I move the question and reply to it trying to help the member). I have been a member for FAR longer than you have been (and I know that your reg date is not when you started using our site) and "not searching" or posting questions where they don't belong has been an issue for as long as I can remember. People are, have, and will ALWAYS be required to search. In fact, in order to tackle this we have gone the extra mile and implemented things like Q&A areas, XDA Assist, etc. However, we do not ban people for not searching, plain and simple... never have, and never will. Your thread and the petition are called "equal enforcement of the rules", if you have reported members as many times as you claim, and have always gotten the same response (mods will take no further actions other than maybe moving the question), then I would think that the enforcement is rather even across the board.
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Nearly every bit of information you could ever need exists on XDA but as people continue to clutter the site with nonsense and repeated questions it becomes harder and harder to find the relevant info creating a cycle that needs to be broken sooner rather than later.
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The forum will continue to grow... I am sorry but there is no cycle to be broken. What needs to happen is that users need to be educated to know how to search for the information they so desperately need.
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I petition the one of three things happen at xda, 1.) Remove rule #1 completely " This would resolve this issue as if the rule does not exist then there is not need for a reaction by the staff thereby eliminating the inequality in the staffs treatment of offenders for rule violations."
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With all due respect, why don't we also eliminate the 10 Commandments while we are at it? Eliminating the "Thou shall not kill", should alleviate all the tensions in the Middle East and people would not get so riled up every time a bomb goes off near a school, don't you think? Screw speed limits as well!! This is great! I will get to floor my Bugatti Veyron in a school zone!!!! YAY.... Anarchy FTW!
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2.) Create a rule for the moderation staff to enforce all rules equally "This would solve the issue utilizing the current issue escalation, users will be warned upon first offense and then it will escalate into points being added and eventually banning."
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Uhmm... that is exactly how we do things, except for special cases such as people posting racist, religious, sexual, or other kinds of comments aimed at someone's persona (death threats or threats of physical violence for instance). Spammers/spambots are probably the only other time we go for the kill right away. We take most cases to the absolute extreme in attempts to educate our users and try to give them chances. To put things in perspective, normally, for regular offenses, a member is not banned until like the 3rd or 4th time a moderator has to be in touch with him/her. (warning->infraction->infraction->short ban->Longer ban->permanent ban).... quite a few opportunities before a member is denied access altogether, if you ask me.
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3.) Give each device a Jr. Moderator that actually owns and spends time in said devices section. " Moderators are volunteers, typically you have a strict set of criteria that the more knowledgeable and irritated users cannot meet. Ignore past offenses and create a set of standards for these users that allow them to help maintain their sections while also keeping their attitudes in check."
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Why don't we go ahead and employ a sex offender as a kindergarten teacher as well? Forget about past offenses.... Our moderators must meet certain criteria to be accepted as moderators, but knowledge about a specific device is not one of them. You know why? Because in this day and age, where devices become obsolete within a year of release, and people changing them that often, we would have to fire all of/most of our staff within a year's time. Each device has a TEAM of moderators assigned to it (more than 1 "jr moderator") We had "your model" until some time in 2010-2011, right around the dawn of Android, but it didn't work anymore due to the sheer growth of the site (both in number of fora and member base). So, as for your idea (the part about the Jr mod anyways)... been there, done that. As for the rest of your idea, about using "bad members" with a relaxed set of criteria to moderate the site.... how about no?
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There are only about 100 moderators for the whole site. Given the sheer number of members which is in the millions now, 100 is an unacceptable number and there is no way they could maintain the forums with any level of efficiency or standards.
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And what is, according to you anyways, an acceptable number? 1:1 ratio? 1:10000? I am sorry but the fora are extremely well maintained for the sheer number of people who frequent the site. Also, you do realize that having the moderator title is FAR more than just having the ability to ban people, right? It involves training, discussions, policy creation, resource management. This is a far more complex engine that you think it is. I seriously believe that you haven't got the faintest clue as to what you are saying/suggesting here as you haven't got a clue as to how the site actually works or how it has evolved over the last 5 years or so.
So, all things considered, it looks like #2 is something we already do.... so, we complied with one of the above points, which is what your petition was going for.
Thank you for playing.
PS. You posted in the wrong section. Why didn't you search for the correct section to post? It should have been posted in General, not Off Topic. Now I am simply going to open the floor to everyone (moderators and OT regulars alike), to do what you all do best with threads.....
I SUMMON CATS, SPIDEY, AND PONIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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@egzthunder1 I respect your opinion but I still disagree with you. Things are still off and reporting doesn't seem to help so of course you will continue the way you have and that's fine. I do understand the system but it's flawed to me.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Also I've had this in general and off topic after the other was deleted.

Oh for the love of god, why do people find it so hard to follow rules. I've been a member of xda for over 2 years and I've only had an issue with a recognized developer once and it was my own fault for being stupid. Is this really being brought up? C'mon now people... move on with the little incidental things

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@egzthunder1 I respect your opinion but I still disagree with you. Things are still off and reporting doesn't seem to help so of course you will continue the way you have and that's fine. I do understand the system but it's flawed to me.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
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Oh for the love of god, why do people find it so hard to follow rules. I've been a member of xda for over 2 years and I've only had an issue with a recognized developer once and it was my own fault for being stupid. Is this really being brought up? C'mon now people... move on with the little incidental things
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Rational thought

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Rational thought
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Yea and a little lighter fluid lol
And for the record I do notice a lot of people not bothering to search, I'll go out of my way mostly because I enjoy helping people and letting them know what I've learned by simply reading but some people take it to the extreme

Thank you all for proving that the rules only apply when they are convenient. As these moderators have allowed the flaming instead of moderating and deleting. I posted my opinion and I was trying to see if others felt the same. Even if you don't you've broken the very rules you agreed to uphold. Well done.

TheCybertronian said:
@egzthunder1 I respect your opinion but I still disagree with you. Things are still off and reporting doesn't seem to help so of course you will continue the way you have and that's fine. I do understand the system but it's flawed to me.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Also I've had this in general and off topic after the other was deleted.
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Actually I would dare say you do NOT understand the system, thus why it seems flawed to you. Given that we already do one of the things that you suggested we do, seems to me that you just plain don't understand how we do things.
XDA membership is not a right, nor is it mandated - it is a privilege and if you just can't understand it or don't like it, there's no one standing around you demanding that you stay on XDA.
If there is though, blink twice so we can alert the proper authorities.

ShapesBlue said:
Yea and a little lighter fluid lol
And for the record I do notice a lot of people not bothering to search, I'll go out of my way mostly because I enjoy helping people and letting them know what I've learned by simply reading but some people take it to the extreme
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Yes you are correct. People will always whinge, not follow rules, not search, etc. I will say though, good work going above and beyond to share what you have learned. That is what XDA is about.

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Yes you are correct. People will always whinge, not follow rules, not search, etc. I will say though, good work going above and beyond to share what you have learned. That is what XDA is about.
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"People will always whinge, ..."
"whinge"
WHINGE
???
[emoji117] [emoji108] ?

There it's been removed highnesses.

Anyone have a link to the petition?
I can haz petition link?

jerdog said:
Yes you are correct. People will always whinge, not follow rules, not search, etc. I will say though, good work going above and beyond to share what you have learned. That is what XDA is about.
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I figure I learned it by reading what other people posted and those same people that helped me I can go to if I need help. Nothing like passing along what you've learned, it definitely helps others
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There it's been removed highnesses.
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[MOD][4.4.4] Xperia Bootanimations "Je suis Charlie" - Purple & Green

For universal freedom of expression, and refusal of barbarism.
"Je suis Charlie"
Just flash the mod via recovery. Purple (stock) or green.
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Nice bro @nreuge
Respect for this ^^
Terrible what happend there but the good news is: Anonymous hacked the islam jihad site of them like fb/youtube/twitter and the rest will follow ^^
Sorry that was kinda OT
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44 downloads, 44 Charlie here !

Yes you are all Charlie all of time...
But I am not because they did disrespect my prophet and muslims. This mod is completely a provocation...
One last thing the greatest is only Allah.
Allah sees everything...

I have deleted a couple of posts here. Remember we do not permit religious discussion here and politics can get very messy too.
For now I have left a couple of posts for "balance" but here stops the discussion of the different sides regarding politics/religion.
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I have deleted a couple of posts here. Remember we do not permit religious discussion here and politics can get very messy too.
For now I have left a couple of posts for "balance" but here stops the discussion of the different sides regarding politics/religion.
Mike
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Thank you so much, this is better for us...

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wow this is very meainingful photo.We should say that we are against the terrorism.All religions are only for peace and for making Peoples happy.Dont forget that.Our enemies are not islam or another religion.Respect please all religions.

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wow this is very meainingful photo.We should say that we are against the terrorism.All religions are only for peace and for making Peoples happy.Dont forget that.Our enemies are not islam or another religion.Respect please all religions.
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Exaxtly and i totally agree with that bro @gamzekal
Bad people make an own group like IS and murder other neutral people, to sad that those things happen in the world and i asked myself everday... Why must is this happening
Just respect eachother and thier choises in which religion they believe and we life then in peace and harmony and not what is going on now in the world, the news here in the Netherlands is that terrorist will attack us also soon -__-
But this thread is getting now whole OT btw.
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Yes, but think to Freedom of Expression. This is what means "Je suis Charlie".
There is no hate in Charlie's caricatures, just laugh. Sad that some people take them as hate or don't accept laugh.

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Yes, but think to Freedom of Expression. This is what means "Je suis Charlie".
There is no hate in Charlie's caricatures, just laugh. Sad that some people take them as hate or don't accept laugh.
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If a whole community is not accepting something then better avoid it (specially the things related to religion) , there are millions of other things which can be used to laugh upon, why only the things which are hurting someone's sentiments (`someone` here is a whole community).
Just a thought..
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Your thought is welcome.
Charlie does laugh about millions of things.
And nobody is forced to buy this paper...

I'm not a religious person but I think we should learn to respect the convictions of others.
I just don't think the public mocking of revered religious figures is a good idea. Not even under the banner of free speech. I wouldn't walk up to a stranger on the streets and just insult him using free speech as a defence.
I think we all need to take a step back and do some soul searching here. It's a question of responsibility and respect for each other. Free speech yes but everything has boundaries. In some countries like Germany, people are prosecuted for denying the holocaust.
Having said that, murdering people in cold blood can never be a justifiable response to offence. Too many people are just being driven into the hands of insane fanatics constituting a very mad brigade hell bent on insanity. We shouldn't be doing things that swell the numbers of this mad brigade but unfortunately acts like deliberately ridiculing revered icons does exactly that. Free speech in my opinion isn't a good justification for this. Especially when it's just for a laugh. Not worth the trouble it causes at all and I look forward to the day when this is realised.
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zodiac100 said:
I'm not a religious person but I think we should learn to respect the convictions of others.
I just don't think the public mocking of revered religious figures is a good idea. Not even under the banner of free speech. I wouldn't walk up to a stranger on the streets and just insult him using free speech as a defence.
I think we all need to take a step back and do some soul searching here. It's a question of responsibility and respect for each other. Free speech yes but everything has boundaries. In some countries like Germany, people are prosecuted for denying the holocaust.
Having said that, murdering people in cold blood can never be a justifiable response to offence. Too many people are just being driven into the hands of insane fanatics constituting a very mad brigade hell bent on insanity. We shouldn't be doing things that swell the numbers of this mad brigade but unfortunately acts like deliberately ridiculing revered icons does exactly that. Free speech in my opinion isn't a good justification for this. Especially when it's just for a laugh. Not worth the trouble it causes at all and I look forward to the day when this is realised.
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Thanks mate! you gave proper words to my thoughts, happy to know that i am not the only one with this type of thinking.
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fayez69 said:
Thanks mate! you gave proper words to my thoughts, happy to know that i am not the only one with this type of thinking.
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No sir you are not the only one. In the face of the sort of murderous carnage we saw on the streets of Paris, it's just human nature to rally behind the victims of such an atrocity.
We all as human beings have more in common than not. We just need to tolerate our subtle differences a bit more.
The men made mad who carried out the attacks are no more representative of Islam as the IRA were of catholics. They just use religion as a rallying call to recruit disillusioned and disaffected young men and women to their cause which is purely political in motive. We need to stop elevating them to the point were they're now considered a threat to our world. They do not and cannot threaten our way of life. What with kalasnikovs, RPGs and improvised explosives? Can they really pose a real threat to the west who've got armies armed to the hilt with the most advanced weaponry including a vast arsenal of nuclear weapons?
These fanatics are no more than a nuisance. A deadly irritation and we all need to confine them to their tiny little box where they belong rather than elevating them to a threat to our way of life. They're are not that and will never be that. They should be treated like the rag tag bunch of lunatics they are. By waging a war on terror against them, all we do is play right into their hands giving them the publicity they desperately crave to recruit more lost souls to their insane agenda. This needs to stop. They're murderous criminals and that's how we should see them. Vermin that need to be crushed by special forces wherever they are. Starting with Saudi Arabia!
We just need to be a bit more realistic in our thinking. Lofty ideals are great but they should always be tempered by the situation on the ground.
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The Humanity doesn't depend on where you live or which language you speak or what you wear or what religious you have.The Humanity depends on who you are.The Humanity means don't discrimination between yourself and others.
There is no superior race.

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The Humanity doesn't depend on where you live or which language you speak or what you wear or what religious you have.The Humanity depends on who you are.The Humanity means don't discrimination between yourself and others.
There is no superior race.
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And no superior beliefs. Secularism is good because it allows all peacefull beliefs.

when you talk terrorism so please dont put ISLAM in the same sentence , and charlie made million laugh by disrespecting our PROPHET (pbuh) but he hurt billions of us , you have freedom of speech but you dont have to hurt others by it and religion is very personal thing , keep your ''freedom of speech in limits'' and don't miss use it''

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when you talk terrorism so please dont put ISLAM in the same sentence , and charlie made million laugh by disrespecting our PROPHET (pbuh) but he hurt billions of us , you have freedom of speech but you dont have to hurt others by it and religion is very personal thing , keep your ''freedom of speech in limits'' and don't miss use it''
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No religious discussion is allowed here.
However, I would say you this: your prophet said, if some people disrespect me and Islam, just ignore them...

Discuss in a pm further about religions because this Thread is gonna now whole offtopic and it is just a bootanimation... a really nice one ^^
The true proof of freedom is: Anonymous !
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